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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Question on "kosherness"
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So far I have been hitting the manpower and not targeted oil and stuff directly. Its a bit overpowered and it can certainly be discussed whether this was within the allied capabilities.

But now as I start hitting the HI I wonder if its considered "kosher" to hit specific targets. What do you guys think? I´m leaning towards doing this as I certainly think the allied would have spared no expense at trying to find and blow up something specific if they deemed it critical.

Also when doing manpower bombings I have no control over what burns. At this stage I don´t really care about HI. Destroying HI at this point won´t change anything. What I REALLY want to hit is his ability to produce airplanes.

Kosher or not? I say Kosher but would like to hear your opinions.

Gotta disagree with some of this.

First, anything you can bomb you can bomb IMO. Crap on this "overpowered" stuff. One-quarter of the Tokyo metroplex was destroyed in one night. The game doesn't come close to matching that.

On bombing specific industry. You can, but you need to do it in daylight to get anywhere and your losses will be high. Look at your screenie of Tokyo, how many aircraft factories there are. At extended range with only B-29s you won't get 80 points per raid gone or anything like that in my experience. If you were closer, like Sakhalin/Hokkaido, and could use B-17/B-24 hordes then yes, it would work. But your B-29 sortie rate does not add up against the calendar here. IMO nighttime Manpower is your best bet at this range with this few very finicky planes. Fatigue reduces faster than major damage repairs.

Did I mention you need to get CLOSER? Look at your plane queues after VE Day. Massive influx of non-B-29 4Es. They need someplace to work.

Finally, on HI. You DO care a whole lot about destroying HI. Not because he doesn't have a huge bank; he does. But because producing more is a major source of his Home Island supply pile he needs to defend himself. And to build Arms and Vehicle points he'll need to hold the mainland once you get the Chinese supplied and the Soviets wake up.

Look at your Tokyo raid. 102 HI centers gone in one night. He won't repair. Over the next year that's a pantload of supply he won't have. Multiply that.

You can't control what burns. Some will be industry you don't care about, like engines used on float fighters or something. But a lot will be LI and HI and that's his groceries. Local groceries that don't have to be moved by sea.

I'd stay night/manpower. And get closer. It's worth a LOT of LCU casualties to get 1000 VP per night, night after night.

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ORIGINAL: koniu

Ki-46III Dinah is reckon plane, You need to look for Ki-46III KAI Dinah fighter

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Ground combat at 55,59 (near Tavoy)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 112239 troops, 1954 guns, 1190 vehicles, Assault Value = 4794

Defending force 189416 troops, 2241 guns, 2992 vehicles, Assault Value = 5553

Japanese ground losses:
452 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 11, 44
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Waingapoe at 63,113, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E No.2, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
APD T-3, Shell hits 39, and is sunk
APD T-7, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST T-133, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
LST T-136, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
LST T-137, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
LST T-141, Shell hits 17, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Bell
DD Black
DD Boyd
DD Clarence Bronson
DD Halligan
DD Lewis Hancock
DD Hickox
DD Hunt, Shell hits 1
DD Duncan
DD Harding, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Doyle

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ORIGINAL: Powloon

Not sure I can really comment on the strat bombing campaign but perhaps a more general comment.

Your main problem seems to be that he has concentrated his air force (and probably navy and army) to meet your two main vectors of attack at Bangkok and Manila. Perhaps an indirect solution to this would be to open up a new front, one he can't ignore and to me that would mean NORPAC. Even a diversionary attack up here will mean he would have to respond and hopefully thin out his defences elsewhere plus give you some strat bomber bases closer to the HI. Obviously it is winter now but you have 3/4 months (I think) to get some units prepped for the area and use PP to but out Canadian/West Coast forces (if you haven't already)

With the resources that the allies get in 45 this operation could possibly be timed to coincide simultanuosly with another major objective or as a precursor to draw in his reserves whilst you hit him elsewhere. Just my 2p!

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Did not consider supply. Have not seen even the slightest indication yet that he is running low anywhere. But who knows. That might be coming!

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ORIGINAL: Spidery
An optimistic explanation for the "missing" aircraft is that supply is running low in forward areas.

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ORIGINAL: aztez

What is the idea behind hitting Dinah factories? I never bothered with those in my games.

I put most pressure on 1st line fighter production and vital engine factories.

..and if you do fly daytime strikes than keep them around 10 000 feet.

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ORIGINAL: Powloon

I think your learning by doing is proving most effective! Interesting to see that you thought you overloaded Burma. If that is the case is there any chance of releasing a few divisions here to get them going Rangoon > Cape Town > East Coast? As you can't really attack in the north for the next 3 to 4 months anyway that should be enough time to get them where they might do the most good

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ORIGINAL: JonReb

Ouch. Interesting enough there actually was a maritime accident at Pearl Harbor in 1944. Lucky yours wasn't as devastating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Loch_disaster

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Alternative 1:
Remove the HR and set a max altitude of ALL airplanes to 32k. That would give ALL airplanes access to the last MVR band and no plane able to dive on the other. This SHOULD be a fair solution and benefit the best planes and pilots. This of course negates the benefit of the Frank R version but it also removes if for the P47 and Hellcats/Bearcat and later Spits. This will add the much needed diversity for the allied plane pools. This I think is a very fair solution for both sides.

Alternative 2:
Keep the 2nd best MVR band but allow CAP and LRCAP to go at any altitude. This to negate the strato sweep. If I remember correctly you are using this HR in your game with Torsten?

In all honesty I think the first alternative is a very good one and fair for both sides. It will completely do away with the dive bonus and strato sweeps. The only problem I see here is that CAP can still climb above the sweeps if there is time. But as you know radar doesn´t work on sweeps (probably another reason its doing so well) and I have not seen this happen in any of my tests. And I have run perhaps 300-500 sweeps during the last week in sandbox. Its a fair compromise I think. I loose the P47s altitude advantage and later Spits and Hellcat/Bearcat while you lose the Frank. But it will be a boost for all other airframes. Including the IJN ones that lack any fighter with access to the MVR band.

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ORIGINAL: princep01

Your loss of AK Nathaniel Currier via explosion in harbor is minor and of passing interest.  However, it would not be so inconsequential had it been another ship.  For instance, as some of you no-doubt know, the Japanese lost one of their 16" gun BBs (Mutsu) in this manner.  If I recall correctly, it was unstable cordite that destroyed Mutsu in harbor.  While the loss was attributed to unstable cordite, I suspect it was made unstable by a Japanese sailor sneaking a smoke.  Talk about the wrong place at the wrong time! 

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ORIGINAL: catwhoorg

They cursed the coding and odd die rolls ?

Then asked for a HR modification...

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: catwhoorg

They cursed the coding and odd die rolls ?

Then asked for a HR modification...

Anyone knows if something like that actually happened in the game? I would certainly have become pretty gutted if that happened to a CV!

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ORIGINAL: princep01

Mooseman, was the CV to the single hit an IJN or Allied ship?  I'm curious as I hit Akagi a long time ago with a single torp.  It is still listed as sunk, and I have not seen her since.  I harbored no expectation that the great vessel was really lost, but your comment makes me wonder.