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RE: May 1944 - 3/2/2017 6:33:25 PM   
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"Following the advice, I am loaded the 2nd tank for Singapur"

First priority there is to cleverly evacuate all the Army from Indochina to China. but not next week, or in a couple of days. To start now. with "cleverly" it is meant in a way such not to be caught once again during the retreat as in Burma.

2 to one that next move of Dan shall be around north vietnamese- southern chinese coast - if you still will have an army in the area worth being cut off - so you are warned.

"The 1.0x10^6 has moved just a little southwest of Cotabato, Mindanao.Think he is preparing to transition his next reinforcement convoy to the Central Philippines". That's very bad this could have been the last occasion to "visit" central Philippines wit the Fleet. The good thing, is that you manage to have recon and position of his main fleet, that's very good.

"Get the Java tanks to Singers and rail them to Indochina, then possibly on to China. You can't get them to the PI now based on Allied control of the SW DEI and PI."
I think I much do not agree with this.
I think that you can and should reinforce Luzon. I think you sould commence tough and consistent land warfare, supported with whateverfighters you can, in Luzon. The sooner, the better.
Especially now that main US Fleet is leaving the area, it may be possible to move the army and reinforcements from western DEI, in addition to reinforcements and supply from home islands and formosa and/or China to PI and Luzon in particular.

please, take note that this may be the last occasion to do so. If not exploited, then we shall be left only with disdain and regrets.

I'm still lobbying for a stand off attrition clash with Dan's carriers air force, in the way I described ina post above; the date you provided though to upgrade completion - beginning of June? - may be late a little, but if this is what we are left to deal with, so ok.

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RE: May 1944 - 3/2/2017 8:13:25 PM   
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Michael hasn't done much with this campaign at all. He was my Sensei years ago and taught me a ton of info on running the economy.

Am now starting to think that I should go thru EVERYTHING from aircraft production, to engines, to shipyards, and really examine what is being built and whether or not it needs to be built. How much better to stockpile saving in HI? HI is still around 700,000 pooled presently. With the tanker convoys getting home I imagine I can run the economy full bore for 3-5 months before life gets exciting. That amount of time could see my HI climb at least several 100,000 points...

IF I can get the Tankers in-and-out one more time then I am certainly good into 1945.



You are like a 16 year old son that just dented the fender and has to tell his parents. Stop dancing around the important facts and simply tell us:

What are the total amount of supplies you have? What is sitting at Tokyo (assuming HQ is there).

Second, very important number, is what is vehicle production and the vehicle pool?

Even if we are all kids at heart, I think we are adult enough to take whatever the number is.

You have made it to June, still shipping DEI oil...so you have one accomplishment most JFB don't get to see. Now let us see if we can help you make it to June 1945 and beyond!

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RE: May 1944 - 3/2/2017 8:41:09 PM   
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In our brief conversation today, John 'promised' to send me the last few turns so I can load them into Tracker. Hopefully, he follows through so we have something to analyze together.

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RE: May 1944 - 3/2/2017 8:51:37 PM   
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In our brief conversation today, John 'promised' to send me the last few turns so I can load them into Tracker. Hopefully, he follows through so we have something to analyze together.








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RE: May 1944 - 3/2/2017 8:51:52 PM   
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Michael hasn't done much with this campaign at all. He was my Sensei years ago and taught me a ton of info on running the economy.

Am now starting to think that I should go thru EVERYTHING from aircraft production, to engines, to shipyards, and really examine what is being built and whether or not it needs to be built. How much better to stockpile saving in HI? HI is still around 700,000 pooled presently. With the tanker convoys getting home I imagine I can run the economy full bore for 3-5 months before life gets exciting. That amount of time could see my HI climb at least several 100,000 points...

IF I can get the Tankers in-and-out one more time then I am certainly good into 1945.



You are like a 16 year old son that just dented the fender and has to tell his parents. Stop dancing around the important facts and simply tell us:

What are the total amount of supplies you have? What is sitting at Tokyo (assuming HQ is there).

Second, very important number, is what is vehicle production and the vehicle pool?

Even if we are all kids at heart, I think we are adult enough to take whatever the number is.

You have made it to June, still shipping DEI oil...so you have one accomplishment most JFB don't get to see. Now let us see if we can help you make it to June 1945 and beyond!



Slow down Lowpe, he gave up the total HI number! Come on. Can't reveal everything right away!


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RE: May 1944 - 3/2/2017 10:47:23 PM   
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All I am asking for is either a picture of bases sorted by supply stockpile, or a picture of either industry available or industry pool screens.

Not asking alot. I think it might be poor...but it won't be as bad as mine was in 6/44 with 0 in the vehicle pool. Mr. Kane beat Greyjoy with under 2 million supply globally in 1945 I believe.

So there is hope no bad how bad the numbers are.


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RE: May 1944 - 3/2/2017 11:19:56 PM   
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Damn...feel like I am going to the Principal's Office...

Home and will try to Post some screenshots.


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RE: May 1944 - 3/2/2017 11:53:47 PM   
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People's Exhibit A:





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RE: May 1944 - 3/2/2017 11:56:59 PM   
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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 12:01:04 AM   
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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 12:07:31 AM   
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Where is that fuel/oil ? Or how much of it do you have in Tokyo ?

The next question is will ny59giants recover from his heart attack ?

Untill then turn off immediatly all H-35 production.

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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 2:02:16 AM   
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No more heart attacks. Once in my lifetime was enough. Like you, the general economic screenshot was nice, but it doesn't tell much. 3M is supply was nice, but less than 1M in fuel may be a concern.

John, hit the "B" button to bring up Bases and sort by Supplies first and then by Fuel. Post a screenshot of each so we can see where the major stockpiles are at.

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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 2:16:32 AM   
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Where is that fuel/oil ? Or how much of it do you have in Tokyo ?

The next question is will ny59giants recover from his heart attack ?

Untill then turn off immediatly all H-35 production.


Well, I thought it would be worse to be honest.

Looks like the Ha35 has been turned off (0 yesterday, but 283 for the month), and he probably will suck wind for Ha45. But he has the Frank B coming online, The Frank A currently, and the Frank R is coming along swiftly if I recall.

Not really seeing any great pools for kamikazes. I guess Helen and Judy 1 will last for one major attack. The A6M5 and maybe 4 (really can't recall that one) will make for good third tier air defense and training squadrons. The Tojo for the Army...no need to fly Claude or Nates. Just keep them out of fighter sweep range. Quite frankly, they won't do bad as CAP traps especially against a marauding deathstar.

Roughly 3.2 million supply; 1 million fuel, 500K oil. Um., turn off automatic refuel on all your task forces and refuel from your idle cargo ships (before they get sunk) to draw down the bunkers. Beach the 14 knot PB, the 10 Knot SC., ah hell...beach everything you can that isn't an E and a Tanker and I guess subs.

Get as much fuel and oil back as you can. IF it becomes a question of using cargo ships carrying fuel to do it, do it. Better to lose a few, and be somewhat inefficient at transporting the fuel than have 500,000 fuel sit in the DEI. Especially true if the cargo ships are already at the fuel.

Give us a plane production sorted by day. That way we can see what you are actually making. Please.

No vehicles in the pool but decent production. Set to stockpile all motorized support and anything else that needs a vehicle and all tanks now. On June 1, you can turn on the Type 3 medium tank and set upgrades & replacements on for your tank units that can use it. It takes supply...so think about moving the tanks now to where there is a goodly amount of supply for the conversion. You might want to make CS tanks too, if you have them in your TOE. Don't know about that one. The 6/44 Light Tank is good too, but the priority is the medium. It is a beast! What you want to try and do is have all your vehicle production going to making the medium tank. Hard to do, but you can get there if you are observant.

Have you turned off merchant shipbuilding? Have you turned off global repairs for everything but airplane and engine factories repair...and that needs looking at. No reason to repair anything, except r&d facilities, and plane factories making good planes and engines (that you don't have 6000 engines in the pool).

I would be tempted to turn off all replacements for troops across the board and then selectively turn them back on. Stockpile engineers and construction units you can make do with what is out there now. Turn on replacements for tanks in 6/44; All AA and ART (but stockpile motorized support and tractors). Replacements on for rebuilding the great combat units that will see action in the future.

I would also globally turn off all fort building and runway construction. Please tell me you don't have any port expansion underway, and then focus selectively turn it back on and question every expenditure.

Not horrible.









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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 2:53:55 AM   
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Not expanding any Ports.

I have been shutting down AK--AKL construction. Am still building TKs but watching that as well. Won't be needing them for much longer anyway...

Will work on the vehicle production. I had a big pool there and then turned off production for just a period of 4 months and then had a heart attack when I saw how low stockpiles were. They dropped like a rock!

As said before I am sending a large number of AKs--50+--to pick up the last of the major INF, CD, HQ, and ENG/BF units from around the perimeter. They can really be used to help elsewhere. Have been doing this for quite a while but want to grab the rest of them while I still can.

Pretty much lost all oil/fuel in Borneo with the notable exception of Balikpapan. Palembang, Java, and Sumatra still doing A OK without any serious threats currently.

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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 2:54:34 AM   
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Yep--Ha-35 is shut off...


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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 2:57:00 AM   
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Aircraft production by day (as requested):





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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 3:06:17 AM   
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Here is the location of the 1.0x10^6. The orange TFs are small 4 DD TF.





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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 11:16:16 AM   
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Strikes me that your Army fighter sentai might be understaffed. Are they? Plus your Fighter Bombers.

With the 44 Army expansion, their fighters really are important. All those size 49 Sentai!


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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 11:49:16 AM   
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how to naval strike Legaspi now?

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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 12:20:46 PM   
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As said before I am sending a large number of AKs--50+--to pick up the last of the major INF, CD, HQ, and ENG/BF units from around the perimeter. They can really be used to help elsewhere. Have been doing this for quite a while but want to grab the rest of them while I still can.

Pretty much lost all oil/fuel in Borneo with the notable exception of Balikpapan. Palembang, Java, and Sumatra still doing A OK without any serious threats currently.


Make sure as Lowpe said to turn off refuel for all transport TFs. Use the AKs with healthy full bunkers and run them dry.

Judging from the Allied position, all of your fuel/oil shipments are in immediate jeopardy. If he has bases on the Western PI he can just send in marauding Fletchers and hit any convoys you send around the edge of Indochina. It's a one day flank run for Fletchers (at 16-18 hexes).

If he gets serious all of your oil fields are already in B-29 range and some in B-24 range.

You have about 2-4 months of HI stored and about 3 months of fuel to run industry saved. You have enough supply to run the Empire for a 3-4 month period but that all depends on where it's located vs where you're fighting. So if he shuts off the oil/fuel spigot now you're done before Jan 45. Probably much sooner.

All of this depends on your opponent's interest in shutting down your industry. In the meantime use only your big and fast tankers. You can't risk oil/fuel in 12-14 knot ships through the South China Sea now. Only the Tonan 15 knot and other large 18 knot TK/AO. (Do stop production of all TK/merchant ships as you won't need more).

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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 1:16:36 PM   
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Unless you know you will need a ton of Ha-44 engines, I would turn those off too. And depending on what your xAK inventory looks like, you can probably turn off all merchant ship yards. Same goes for naval shipyards with the exception of DDs and E boats with high ASW ratings. Those HI points are better spent on late war fighters IMHO.

Although I am not as experienced a JFB as many on this forum, I have played one PBEM into mid-1945 and found that the late game is just as much fun as the early and mid-game phases. It just requires a different mindset. Here is what I learned from my vast experience of going the distance one time.

Broadly speaking, in the early phase of the war a JFB's mindset should be focused on expansion and securing the borders of the Empire (the JFB's 'happy times' of running amok almost any where on the map). During the middle (plundering) phase, the mindset should turn to fortification and hauling as much loot (fuel, oil, and resources) back to the Home Islands as possible. But in the late game IMHO, a JFB's mindset needs to shift over to playing the role of spoiler. During the late war, the Allies have simply grown too strong to defeat and Japan has become the underdog. But as every good underdog knows (paraphrasing Kenneth Grahame), there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply denying the favored side their anticipated victory. In game terms, that means denying the AFB's anticipated major Allied victory by VJ day. In fact, due to the wonders of 20-20 historical hindsight, you can consider this goal to be the single strategic objective of the entire war. Every tactical decision you make from Dec 7 onwards can be evaluated by gauging how well it helps you achieve this single goal of denying your Allied opponent his victory. The proof of how well you played the game lies in the 'pudding' of the final phase of the game.

So with this strategic goal in mind, you can evaluate how well any course of action you take will help you achieve your ends. In this vein, I see all the sound advice you have received from more experienced players than me such as ny59giants, Obvert, Lowpe, Grafin, etc. all seem consistent with this goal: play for the long game. And as far as doing a banzai charge with your SCTFs as 1225psi and I described in prior posts, while it is great fun, I consider it at this late stage of the war as being a desperation move best left until later. If it were me, I would wait until Canoe moves to close the circle around the Home Islands by invading Okinawa, Formosa, Hong Kong, or Can Ranh Bay. Then, only if the situation is right and you are prepared and the attack offers a good chance of frustrating Steve's plans and will delay an Allied victory would I do it. That's a lot of 'ands', but damn it sure is fun!

So there's my two cents worth of wisdom. Use it as you see fit. Some might see this strategic vision of playing the game as being excessively modest. Maybe it is, but can you realistically expect to do any better? I don't think so. Besides, having some strategic vision is better than having no strategic vision at all.


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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 10:37:16 PM   
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Expected to come home and find a bunch of Postings but have to admit I am disappointed. Read pws's comments prior to leaving and thought Michael would have throw the HOLY Hand Grenade from using Tracker on two of my turns. Alas--it was not be since those turns hung up in my email all day. He now has them and I can expect a raking over the coals anytime here on the thread.


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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 11:11:58 PM   
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As said before I am sending a large number of AKs--50+--to pick up the last of the major INF, CD, HQ, and ENG/BF units from around the perimeter. They can really be used to help elsewhere. Have been doing this for quite a while but want to grab the rest of them while I still can.

Pretty much lost all oil/fuel in Borneo with the notable exception of Balikpapan. Palembang, Java, and Sumatra still doing A OK without any serious threats currently.


Make sure as Lowpe said to turn off refuel for all transport TFs. Use the AKs with healthy full bunkers and run them dry.

Judging from the Allied position, all of your fuel/oil shipments are in immediate jeopardy. If he has bases on the Western PI he can just send in marauding Fletchers and hit any convoys you send around the edge of Indochina. It's a one day flank run for Fletchers (at 16-18 hexes).

If he gets serious all of your old fields are already in B-29 range and some in B-24 range.

You have about 2-4 months of HI stored and about 3 months of fuel to run industry saved. You have enough supply to run the Empire for a 3-4 month period but that all depends on where it's located vs where you're fighting. So if he shuts off the oil/fuel spigot now you're done before Jan 45. Probably much sooner.

All of this depends on your opponent's interest in shutting down your industry. In the meantime use only your big and fast tankers. You can't risk oil/fuel in 12-14 knot ships through the South China Sea now. Only the Tonan 15 knot and other large 18 knot TK/AO. (Do stop production of all TK/merchant ships as you won't need more).


You are going to make John fail his PMC.

Japan's economy will fail no matter what, but you will still have light industry cranking out supply so you can fight. And the economy failing is simply your HI shutting down. Hey, that is not the end of the world.

You just need to realize all fuel is destined for HI factories for as long as it lasts. Any ship adventures need to be pulled from the bunker of other ships. You might even be able to grow your fuel supply by eliminating a lot of shipping and pulling from the bunkers.

1. Ship fuel and oil back. Heck with Obvert's advice about using only fast tankers, try with everything until you fail. Be creative. You might really surprise yourself about how much you can get out and back. Especially if the ships are there now in the DEI/Singers.

2. Rescue troops.

Really think hard on any other use of fuel except to power your Heavy Industry.

Heavy Industry:

1. Turn off all merchant builds. If fuel gets really scarce later on, and you have the HI, you can turn it back on for a few days to build some ships and then drain their fuel once they arrive.

2. Look at naval ship builds with a very critical eye. Try to shut some off here. Try and shut a lot off here.

3. Never turn vehicles off. Ever.

4. I didn't look at armaments, but at some point that can be turned off too. Most likely.

More later as I think on it.





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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 11:45:54 PM   
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You are going to make John fail his PMC.

Japan's economy will fail no matter what, but you will still have light industry cranking out supply so you can fight. And the economy failing is simply your HI shutting down. Hey, that is not the end of the world.


Canoe rebel is less aggressive about wrecking industry than Jocke was in my game. John has some hope to get to 45, but at this point he needs to know what all of these numbers mean. LI will still produce ir resources are stockpiled, but I'd hazard a guess there aren't more than a few months worth in the HI. So the shipping of resources from Hokkaido, Sakhalin and Manchuria needs to be on full throttle too.

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You just need to realize all fuel is destined for HI factories for as long as it lasts. Any ship adventures need to be pulled from the bunker of other ships. You might even be able to grow your fuel supply by eliminating a lot of shipping and pulling from the bunkers.

1. Ship fuel and oil back. Heck with Obvert's advice about using only fast tankers, try with everything until you fail. Be creative. You might really surprise yourself about how much you can get out and back. Especially if the ships are there now in the DEI/Singers.



I'm assuming here he has a plethora of large fast tankers now for the remaining ports since thee are not as many to ship from. You don't want 12 knot ships chugging through Allied infested waters for days getting lit up by search, then torched at leisure. Get through fast!



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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 11:55:08 PM   
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First screen shot is Industry - Global.

NO VEHICLES!!!




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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 11:57:05 PM   
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Can you isolate for the Home Islands?

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RE: May 1944 - 3/3/2017 11:59:57 PM   
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Now on to Supply & Fuel...Looks like you need to get some TKs down to Java.




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RE: May 1944 - 3/4/2017 12:04:44 AM   
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Now Oil & Res.... looks like you need to get over to Hokkaido to pull out its Oil.




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RE: May 1944 - 3/4/2017 12:05:32 AM   
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We don't need no stinkin vehicles. Just tanks in June of 1944!

Not good fuel picture there...


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RE: May 1944 - 3/4/2017 12:07:51 AM   
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Now to the bases in Japan....




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