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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 8:41:20 AM   
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The Soviets have a couple of vulnerable units south of the Pripet Marshes, but the Storm conditions mean that the Luftwaffe cannot fly to ground strike. General Winter has come early to aid the Soviet Union....

Apart from a mopping up operation against a Partisan in France, the action this turn will take place in Army Group South's area of operations.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 9:04:19 AM   
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For the battles on the Ukrainian border no HQ support will be used and aircraft cannot fly. The first attack is the most northerly, against the 29th Infantry Army. The Blitzkrieg CRT is chosen and....

...the defenders are shattered. This means the unit is removed from the map and appears as a reinforcement next turn. Alternatively the unit could retreat. I want to open up the front so I do not convert to retreat.

In the next attack, against the Soviet 1st Mountain Corps, the Soviets choose Assault. The result is destruction of the defender for no loss.

The final attack - by the Romanian Army Group - also results in the defender being destroyed. The Attackers are disorganised but there is now a huge gap in the Soviet southern front.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 9:42:18 AM   
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The Soviets have to decide what to do about the chasm that has opened up in the south. Withdrawal is a possibility but, this does not really aid the position in the south that much if at all. The plan will be to try and put pressure on the weak link - the Romanians.

The Romanians have left Antonescu on his own. Two attacks will try and remove him and also the 1st and 2nd Infantry Corps that have created a bridgehead across the Dneister.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 10:15:06 AM   
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The Soviets pull out of the northern attack as the odds were just not good enough, but the attack against Antonescu proceeds. Both sides fly in all the bombers they can to affect the odds..




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 10:18:12 AM   
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The Romanians choose the Assault table and....

...its great news for the Soviets who take no loss.





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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 10:23:07 AM   
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Back to the Axis and they will need to do something about the Romanian situation - the Soviets have some large stacks in the south.

The good news is its Fine weather everywhere.

The CW not taking up station in the Italian Coast gives he Regia Marina the chance to join up the fleet - the ships that were in Taranto sail to La Spezia.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 10:30:03 AM   
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The Luftwaffe go for only one ground strike, northeast of Kaunas. They have the advantage on fighters thanks to the two 6-quality 109's. The Soviets do not contest the bomber therefore.

The Japanese also try a ground strike against units southwest of Hengyang - which the Chinese do not contest for the same reason.

In Latvia, one unit was disorganised, but the Japanese fail miserably once again.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 11:00:45 AM   
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The Germans cannot get decent odds in the south and so stake everything on the attack in the north...

The Soviets bring in defensive HQ support and the Germans bring two bombers to the party. In view of the superiority of the Luftwaffe fighters the Soviets do not contest the bombers.

The Germans choose the Blitzkrieg CRT and a collective prayer is said by the German High Command. This is the kind of attack that can make or break an offensive....

...the result is shattered and the Germans lose a motorised corps. It could have been better.

At the end of Impulse 6 the Eastern Front looks like this...




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 1:15:35 PM   
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The big question for the Soviets is whether or not they should try and squeeze out the German units northeast of Kaunas. They could try, what would be, an all or nothing attempt. Alternatively they could try and keep the line straight as possible and so not allow the Germans room to exploit any gaps.

The Soviets go for the latter, safer approach, albeit one that sacrifices Timoshenko (unless the turn ends). The Germans will have to push deeper into Russia in order to make gains - and that means time bringing up aircraft.






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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 1:30:44 PM   
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This leaves just one attack - in the south in order to extinguish the Romanian bridgehead over the Dneister.

Koniev declines to provide HQ Support and the Soviets have no bombers they can spare, although the Germans bring in a Ju-88.

The Russians choose the Blitz CRT table and....

...a 15! its a crushing blow for the Romanian armed forces!






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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 2:16:24 PM   
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The turn does not end - the Germans MUST make good use of this impulse.

They go for one ground strike - east of Vilna. The fighter strength is equal if everyone commits the maximum - which they do!




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 2:22:27 PM   
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In fact, the Soviets have a slight advantage 5.7 vs 5.8

Round one the Soviets roll a 7 (DA). The German has to abort the front fighter or bomber. They take a chance and abort the fighter.

Germany then roll a 13 (No result).

With the battle now firmly in the Soviet's advantage, the Luftwaffe pull out..




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 2:28:21 PM   
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 2:36:47 PM   
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The Germans go for two attacks - one on the exposed Timoshenko and another, altogether more risky proposition against two Russian mechanised armies.

As I write this, I chicken out - the losses for a poor dice through would be catastrophic...

Just the one then - and the Germans choose Assault....

.... its a 15 - the HQ is destroyed and the Germans advance.

The Allies then take a chance and pass with all powers. The turn then ends.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 3:53:12 PM   
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Production

Germany:
Mountain
Motorised
3 x pilot
2 x Fighter
1 x Land Air
1 x Naval Air

Italy:
Fighter
Pilot

Japan:
Mountain
Garrison
2 x Pilot
2 x Carrier Air
Submarine

Vichy:
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 3:57:49 PM   
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Production

China:
Motorised
Cavalry Div

Commonwealth:
Naval Construction
Naval Air
Pilot
Armour HQ
Garrison
Land Air

USA:
Carrier
Armour
2 x Carrier Air

USSR:
Infantry
Motorised
Infantry HQ
Militia
Garrison
2 x Pilot
Land Air
Fighter
Anti-Aircraft


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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 4:07:49 PM   
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China: Anti-Aircraft

Commonwealth: Lancaster, Swordfish, Indefatigable, Temeraire and 2 cruisers

USA: Indiana, Infantry

USSR: Militia, IL-4, Armour, Para, 4 x Infantry

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 4:11:32 PM   
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 4:16:48 PM   
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Well now! The Axis have the initiative and the weather is Fine everywhere!


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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 4:32:59 PM   
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The Luftwaffe attempt 3 ground strikes: southeast of Riga, and the two hexes north and northeast of Chisnau. The Soviets have no fighters in the south and are outgunned in the north.

The Japanese try ground striking the hex southeast of Hengyang. The Chinese fighter does not fly.

Oh dear - that wasn't how it was supposed to be. The 5-quality Stuka misses both units...as does the 4-quality. The only success is in the south against Koniev.

In China, all six attempts fail.....






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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 4:49:02 PM   
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The Germans plan two attacks - in the forest northeast of Kaunas and north of the Dniester, two hexes northeast of Chisnau.

The Japanese try a risky attack, also in forest, but frankly the Chinese campaign has been a total disaster and whatever they do, they just cannot get decent odds...



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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 4:56:23 PM   
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For the attack in China, the Chinese choose the Assault table...the dice need to be very high for the Japanese here....

...its a 14. The Chinese lose one unit but the attackers are all disorganised. Its going to be a long turn for the Japanese....




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 4:59:40 PM   
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In Latvia the Germans choose the Blitz table....

....its a 10..the Soviets retreat and the half the attackers are disorganised - both units retreat back over the Dvina.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 5:06:42 PM   
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And so to the final battle of the impulse...

The Germans choose the Blitz table again, but they really need to start destroying the enemy and soon...

...its a 13 and instead they get a shattered result and destroy a Russian Cavalry.





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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 5:12:50 PM   
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The end of the impulse sees the Soviets looking a little stretched....






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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 6:16:15 PM   
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 6:28:46 PM   
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Yep - that's MWIF/WIF for you - totally unpredictable!


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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 7:04:32 PM   
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WOW the Germans are well behind where they should be going along historical lines..
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Yep - that's MWIF/WIF for you - totally unpredictable!



So true, sometimes the gods of luck are with you.

I prefer the 2d10 combat, because with high odds, you tend to half-flip instead of completely flip.

Oh and flipping refers to disorganization - ugh.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/25/2013 10:19:56 PM   
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse - 11/26/2013 4:11:05 AM   
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The Germans had a combo of a late start (didn't declare war until impulse 3) and bad weather. Not a good start for Barbarossa.
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True, but I think this is on a knife-edge now. The Germans have broken through in the south and in the north, where the Soviets have placed the bulk of their strength, the invaders have started to push them back - there is not much by way of reserve.

The weather will be vital in the next few turns….

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