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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/5/2015 5:42:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		THE MOLOTOV LINE

The so-called Molotov Line was a system of border fortified regions built by the Soviet Union in the years 1940–1941 along its new western borders. These borders were the result of joining of the Baltic States, Eastern Poland and Bessarabia in 1940.

Each fortified region (in Russian ukreplennyi raion, or UR) consisted of a large number of concrete bunkers (pillboxes) armed with machineguns, antitank guns and artillery. The bunkers were built in groups for mutual support, each group forming a centre of resistance.

When Germany attacked the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941 during the course of Operation Barbarossa, most of the line was not yet finished, and hence posed a negligible obstacle to the invading forces. Only the four southernmost regions, partly completed, were able to hamper the advance of the Wehrmacht for a few days. (The Brest Fortress resisted much longer, but it was an older fortification technically not part of the Molotov line).



In Lithuania the line consisted of four fortified regions:
1. Telšiai fortified region (line from Palanga to Judrėnai, 75 kilometers).
2. Šiauliai fortified region (line from Pajūris to Jurbarkas, 90 kilometers).
3. Kaunas fortified region (line from Jurbarkas to Kalvarija, 105 kilometers).
4. Alytus fortified region (line from Kalvarija to border of Lithuanian SSR, 57 kilometers).


Continuing south, the other regions, today located along the eastern border of Poland with Belarus and Ukraine, were:
5. Grodno fortified region – 80 km (in Belarus and Poland)
6. Osowiec fortified region – 60 km (in Poland)
7. Zambrów fortified region – 70 km (in Poland)
8. Brest fortified region – 120 km (in Poland and Belarus)
9. Kovel fortified region – 80 km (in Ukraine)
10. Volodymyr-Volyns'kyi fortified region – 60 km (in Ukraine)
11. Kamyanka-Buzka (Kamionka Strumiłowa) fortified region – 45 km (in Ukraine)
12. Rawa Ruska fortified region – 90 km (in Poland and Ukraine)
13. Przemyśl fortified region – 120 km (in Poland and Ukraine)

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/6/2015 7:48:39 AM   
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I found new information about military airfields in Belarus in 1941:
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/6/2015 10:25:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		@Brazenman what is the difference (besides name and appearance) between the Cossack cavalry and the regular Soviet cavalry? In terms of gameplay how should they differ?

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/7/2015 9:52:00 AM   
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@Brazenman what is the difference (besides name and appearance) between the Cossack cavalry and the regular Soviet cavalry? In terms of gameplay how should they differ?

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what is the difference (besides name and appearance) between the Cossack cavalry and the regular Soviet cavalry? In terms of gameplay how should they differ?


I do not see a fundamental difference between them

I but I think that would be true if you will add a couple of bonuses for the Cossacks
for example
Movement +1 (about the Cossacks say that they were born on a horse)
Spotting +1 (cossacks have always been excellent scouts)
Initiative +1

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/7/2015 2:33:01 PM   
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Please add alternative link for version 1.09

On the site my-files.ru there are problems

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/7/2015 3:36:57 PM   
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Karaganov
Please add alternative link for version 1.09

On the site my-files.ru there are problems


Okay
Thanks

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/8/2015 1:38:54 PM   
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I do not see a fundamental difference between them

I but I think that would be true if you will add a couple of bonuses for the Cossacks
for example
Movement +1 (about the Cossacks say that they were born on a horse)
Spotting +1 (cossacks have always been excellent scouts)
Initiative +1

Honestly, I think that it`s irrelevant to distinguish between Soviet cavalry and Cossack cavalry (the latter being just part of the former), but since H.Balck made the graphics I`ll add them in too and I`ll ask for the bigunits cards too. The lack of the info cards is the actual reason why I haven`t added them yet.

Nice to see Karaganov is still working on this.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/9/2015 5:08:35 AM   
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Nice to see Karaganov is still working on this.



Yeah, right
Karaganov continues to work with the map of Soviet Western Front
I hope that soon we will see new part of the map

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/9/2015 12:54:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a question. Do you guys have the list and maybe the disposition of the soviet forces before the Soviet ultimatum to Romania in June 1940? I was considering a what if scenario.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/9/2015 1:14:48 PM   
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I have a question. Do you guys have the list and maybe the disposition of the soviet forces before the Soviet ultimatum to Romania in June 1940? I was considering a what if scenario.


No problems. If you need, I will try to gather information for you
It will not be difficult for me

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/9/2015 9:02:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great, thank you! I`m interested in those units that would have been involved in the invasion (if Romania rejected the ultimatum)so you don`t need to dig deeper than that section of the front. Presumably they`re the same with the ones that actually occupied the territory in the real historical event.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/10/2015 8:01:43 AM   
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Great, thank you! I`m interested in those units that would have been involved in the invasion (if Romania rejected the ultimatum)so you don`t need to dig deeper than that section of the front. Presumably they`re the same with the ones that actually occupied the territory in the real historical event.


Composition of the troops of the Southern Front of June 27, 1940
Front Headquarters - Proskurov

Reserve
8th Rifle Division
17th Rifle Division
86th Rifle Division
100th Rifle Division
These divisions transferred to the reserve of the Southern Front, but these divisions are not relocated to the area of hostilities

Airborne troops
201th Airborne Brigade - Skomorokhy
Air landing near Izmail
204th Airborne Brigade - Boryspol
Air landing near Cahul-Reni
214th Airborne Brigade - Kalinovka
has remained in reserve

12th Army
Army Headquarters - Kolomyja

8th Rifle Corps
Troops was concentrated in the area of Przemysl as a part of the Army Reserve
72nd Rifle Division
124th Rifle Division
146th Rifle Division
10th light Armored Brigade
26th light Armored Brigade
324th Artillery Regiment
375th Artillery Regiment
135th Artillery Regiment

13th Rifle Corps
Troops was concentrated in the area of Przemysl as a part of the Army Reserve
60th Rifle Division
132nd Rifle Division
139th Rifle Division
24th light Armored Brigade
168th Artillery Regiment
305th Artillery Regiment
376th Artillery Regiment

15th Rifle Corps
Troops was concentrated in area of Horodenka, Filipkovtsy, Novosyulka-Kostyukova
7th Rifle Division
141st Rifle Division
38th Armored Brigade
120th Artillery Regiment

17th Rifle Corps
Troops was concentrated in area of Kuta, Snyatyn, Stetsova, Kolomyja
58th Rifle Division
131st Rifle Division
81st Motorized Infantry Division
13th light Armored Brigade

192nd Mountain Infantry Division
Troops was concentrated in area of Ustseryki, Polyanki, Kishvoruvnya

Army Cavalry Group
Group Headquarters - Kolomyja

2nd Cavalry Corps
Troops was concentrated in the area - in the forests of southeast Kolomyja (near Yablonuv, Gvozdzets, Podgaychiki, Kolomyja)
3rd Cavalry Division
5th Cavalry Division
5th light Armored Brigade

4th Cavalry Corps
Troops was concentrated in the area - in the forests of southeast Kolomyja (near Yablonuv, Gvozdzets, Podgaychiki, Kolomyja)
16th Cavalry Division
34th Cavalry Division
23rd light Armored Brigade

5th Army
Army Headquarters - Dunayevtsy

49th Rifle Corps
Troops was concentrated on Volyn near Dunayevtsy
44th Rifle Division
80th Rifle Division
135th Rifle Division
36th light Armored Brigade

36th Rifle Corps
Troops was concentrated on Volyn near Dunayevtsy
130th Rifle Division
169th Rifle Division
49th light Armored Brigade

9th Army
Army Headquarters - Grosulovo
Army deployed in Transnistria along the line Molochişul Mare in the north -Ovidiopol in the south

140th Rifle Division
Troops was concentrated in area of Molochişul Mare, Rybnitsa, Gidirim

35th Rifle Corps
Troops was concentrated in area of Dubossary, Tiraspol
25th Rifle Division
173rd Rifle Division
95th Rifle Division

55th Rifle Corps
Troops was concentrated in area of Ovidiopol
116th Rifle Division
155th Rifle Division
164th Rifle Division

5th Cavalry Corps
Troops was concentrated in area of Dubossary, Tiraspol
9th Cavalry Division
32th Cavalry Division
4th light Armored Brigade

Rybnitsa Fortified Zone
Tiraspol Fortified Zone

Reserve
Troops was concentrated in area of Dubossary, Tiraspol, Ploskoye, Shibka

7th Rifle Corps
51th Rifle Division
74th Rifle Division
15th Motorized Infantry Division
14th light Armored Brigade

37th Rifle Corps
30th Rifle Division
147th Rifle Division
176th Rifle Division

14th Heavy Armored Brigade
21th Armored Brigade
110th Artillery Regiment
124th Artillery Regiment
320th Artillery Regiment
430th Artillery Regiment
439th Artillery Regiment


Border Guard of troops NKVD
2nd detachment of Border Guard of troops NKVD
25th detachment of Border Guard of troops NKVD
95th detachment of Border Guard of troops NKVD

Group air force
- one regiment of bombers DB-3, five regiments of bombers SB-2, one regiment of light bombers U-2 and six regiments of fighters I-15, I-153, DI-6, I-16.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/10/2015 12:59:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		That`s very helpful. Thank you very much! Do you know approximately how many aircraft would be in an air regiment? Around 30?

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/10/2015 1:49:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: R35

That`s very helpful. Thank you very much! Do you know approximately how many aircraft would be in an air regiment? Around 30?


Aviation Regiment of the sample in 1938
regiment of bombers DB-3 (38-42 of combat aircraft)
regiment of bombers SB-2 (61 of combat aircraft)
regiment of light bombers U-2 or R-5 (62 of combat aircraft)
regiment of fighters I-15BIS, I-153, I-16, DI-6 (63-77 of combat aircraft)

30 of combat aircraft was the fall of 1941

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/11/2015 6:22:09 AM   
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I play for the Red Army
after 30 moves

Tendra is a hard nut to crack
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28824225/screen-001.jpg

Enemy aircraft dominates on my sea lanes. I have to break the naval convoys into several parts
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28824235/screen-002.jpg
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28824241/screen-003.jpg

My divisions are still holding defensive positions on the Isthmus.
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28824263/screen-004.jpg
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28824266/screen-005.jpg

I defeated the enemy's troops in the north of the Crimean peninsula.
The remains the enemy troops will be bathe in Sivash near the Lake Pusurman
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28824303/screen-006.jpg

My troops have left the peninsula Chongar, but they firmly hold the bridges over the Siwash.
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28824322/screen-007.jpg
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28824325/screen-008.jpg

My troops have left the Arabat Spit, but it will be difficult for the enemy to break through to the Ak-Monay.
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28824338/screen-009.jpg

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/11/2015 11:11:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		If Karaganov prolong his map a little to the west,
then we can to make a great script about the battle on the Danube, the summer of 1941

The heroic defense of Odessa, fighting on the Prut River, the retreat behind Dniester River, Kishinev, Tiraspol, Nikolaev...

I think it would be interesting

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/11/2015 11:28:27 AM   
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Do not get involved in the fighting in the steppe part of Crimea.
In this case, it will be a big defeat of Soviet troops.
Important to maintain troops and retreat to Sevastopol and Taman.

Use the railway. If you lose control of the railway, the German motorized units will destroy most of Soviet troops in the steppe. First of all deliver ye artillery units!

Good luck to you!

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/12/2015 5:33:40 AM   
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Brazenman

Do not get involved in the fighting in the steppe part of Crimea.
In this case, it will be a big defeat of Soviet troops.
Important to maintain troops and retreat to Sevastopol and Taman.

Use the railway. If you lose control of the railway, the German motorized units will destroy most of Soviet troops in the steppe. First of all deliver ye artillery units!

Good luck to you!



I understand perfectly that I do not need to get involved in fighting in the steppe part of Crimea. Also, I understand how important it is to use the railway on a big map.

I have no education staff officer but I'm well-versed in the strategic situation on the map.
And I think you're just afraid to play against me.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/12/2015 9:25:16 AM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/12/2015 10:09:05 AM   
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I hope that you will be able to test the new part of map and you will be able to send me the list of errors and inaccuracies.

Western Front. Summer 1941.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/12/2015 10:11:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: R35

Nice to see Karaganov is still working on this.



I am also very glad that R-35 and H.Balck continues to work with mod - H.Balck's DLC unit upgrade. This grand project.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/12/2015 10:14:37 AM   
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You promised me a new information on the German airfields in eastern Poland in June 1941
Is not it?

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/12/2015 10:21:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zhenka

If Karaganov prolong his map a little to the west,
then we can to make a great script about the battle on the Danube, the summer of 1941

The heroic defense of Odessa, fighting on the Prut River, the retreat behind Dniester River, Kishinev, Tiraspol, Nikolaev...

I think it would be interesting



I thought about it, and I hope that I will have the opportunity to realize all this. But I have not enough time. You must understand that this is purely my enthusiasm.

Suppose that I have completed yet maps for Western and Southern Fronts.
In this case, it would be nice to have someone join me
and began to work with the maps for
Northern Front
North-Western Front
South-Western Front

But somehow I do not believe it...

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/13/2015 10:54:30 AM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/13/2015 10:56:37 AM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/13/2015 10:58:16 AM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/13/2015 11:28:51 AM   
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Lets keep this all friendly please. Brazenman your posts are provocative so please tone it down.


Zhenka is a good dude
I have great respect for him.
But he's afraid to play against me, and it is very sad for me.

I can not find a worthy opponent.
And that is a problem.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/13/2015 11:39:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Karaganov


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ORIGINAL: Zhenka

If Karaganov prolong his map a little to the west,
then we can to make a great script about the battle on the Danube, the summer of 1941

The heroic defense of Odessa, fighting on the Prut River, the retreat behind Dniester River, Kishinev, Tiraspol, Nikolaev...

I think it would be interesting



I thought about it, and I hope that I will have the opportunity to realize all this. But I have not enough time. You must understand that this is purely my enthusiasm.

Suppose that I have completed yet maps for Western and Southern Fronts.
In this case, it would be nice to have someone join me
and began to work with the maps for
Northern Front
North-Western Front
South-Western Front

But somehow I do not believe it...


Karaganov
I hope you will make a map of the Far Eastern front, too. H.Balck has done an excellent line of units for Japan

We can make the scenario of the Japanese attack on the Soviet Union in 1941 or 1942
I think it's a good idea

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/13/2015 12:52:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		If someone can make some scenarios involving Japan it would be great. I`ve made that Pacific General Persia conversion, but while I keep implementing units and adjusting things for the mod I don`t have time for other scenarios. And the faction is already pretty cool and close to being completed.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 11/14/2015 1:18:30 PM   
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Brazenman
You promised me a new information on the German airfields in eastern Poland in June 1941
Is not it?


Map of German airfields in the Kaliningrad region

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