Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Don't send the RN BBs in. Please. They will be Long Lanced and eaten alive by the IJN BBs. As many withdraw you also will face the too-broken issue if they get mauled. I know there is a desire to Do Something. That isn't it. The RN BBs are no match for multiple BBs and the Japanese CAs.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I wouldn't engage that force. What's the point? Your ships aren't upgraded yet. Save them for 1943 and 1944 when they can win with better equipment and greater weight of forces.

The calculus I do is as follows:
1) Would you really miss Force Z later, when you're advancing? My guess is yes. So what would you gain by risking them? To 2...

2) What would happen for him if he's missing a Kongo or a few cruisers? It wouldn't really stall his advance, correct? The entire purpose of the IJN in this initial phase is to put a hurting on the Allied navies, but the real advancing happens under air umbrellas and with troops. The IJN is also there to protect landings, but with proper air support (read: torpedo Netties) he can make it inadvisable for you to try to use surface forces to interdict almost any landing he's going to want to do.


Now, if he's out in the middle of the Indian Ocean with those guys and you want to try a combined strike on them with SCTF and air forces, that's another thing... but if he's just covering the coast, I don't see how you can win that battle at this point in time. You'd just be frittering away naval resources at a time when you don't need to.

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Havta ask why you are using Manilla as a base for the subs?

On December 8th I reassign every sub at Manilla to a new home base at Soerbaja as they sortie from Manilla.

Even the S-boats can operate in the PI with a home base of Soerbaja.

Only after that home base has to displace further away do the S-boats lose the ability to operate in the PI.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Havta ask why you are using Manilla as a base for the subs?

On December 8th I reassign every sub at Manilla to a new home base at Soerbaja as they sortie from Manilla.

Even the S-boats can operate in the PI with a home base of Soerbaja.

Only after that home base has to displace further away do the S-boats lose the ability to operate in the PI.

Sorry Hans. Completely forgot to answer this.

Manila is by FAR the closest base I have. It quite handily also have almost 100k fuel. To rebase them would mean they would have to go back to Brisbane to reamarm and Townesville if they only need to refuel.

Java was lost 2 months ago. But Nick/Jeff bypassed Lyzon which allows me to operate subs from Manila.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Given he wants to bomb Manila, combined with the risk of forgetting a sub and finding her fuel-starved to the north of the PI and out of range of Townsville or Brisbane, I'd re-base them now and save them for ops around Oz. But that's me. I loves me some subs.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Given he wants to bomb Manila, combined with the risk of forgetting a sub and finding her fuel-starved to the north of the PI and out of range of Townsville or Brisbane, I'd re-base them now and save them for ops around Oz. But that's me. I loves me some subs.

Can´t tell you how many times I watched my subs crawling back at 1/1 while SYS slowly rises...And yes it will happen in this game too!

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Given he wants to bomb Manila, combined with the risk of forgetting a sub and finding her fuel-starved to the north of the PI and out of range of Townsville or Brisbane, I'd re-base them now and save them for ops around Oz. But that's me. I loves me some subs.

Can´t tell you how many times I watched my subs crawling back at 1/1 while SYS slowly rises...And yes it will happen in this game too!

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Given he wants to bomb Manila, combined with the risk of forgetting a sub and finding her fuel-starved to the north of the PI and out of range of Townsville or Brisbane, I'd re-base them now and save them for ops around Oz. But that's me. I loves me some subs.

Can´t tell you how many times I watched my subs crawling back at 1/1 while SYS slowly rises...And yes it will happen in this game too!

I was looking for a great "newbie!" rant from Dr. Cox, but I found this one and I think you might appreciate it given your domestic situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gs_ahbs7ys

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ORIGINAL: Encircled

still my favourite Dr Cox moment

Cox "Its me!"

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ORIGINAL: Encircled

still my favourite Dr Cox moment

Cox "Its me!"

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Oh, BTW. Thread count +1!

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Morning Air attack on Alliford Bay , at 199,46

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
SS I-7, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

IIRC, 6th Guards is a newly raised division with green troops and unfilled TOE - less than 50% I think. If he deployed it he is desperate for ground troops and will likely bring the NorPac troops to Luzon to clean up the mess. All part of the opportunity cost of going too far too fast in the first few months.

Suggestion for your strategic musings - if you get parity or superiority on the sea before you have to launch, you could consider leaving PH alone and reach down from SFO to Midway, Wake, Eniwetok and the Marshalls or Kusaie/Ponape. Lots of water here so it would be a naval campaign more so than the slog up from the south, but you could trap a lot of troops at PH. The naval battles will be vicious but you will be getting more replacements than the IJN...

From the Japanese perspective, once you have Midway he needs to guard against attacks on the Aleutians, Kuriles and Hokkaido. Once you have Wake, he needs to guard Marcus, the Marianas and Truk. He can only really strike back by committing to a naval battle he doesn't want.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

You do have a chance in China... to get out . Your only real option for productive operations in China is to keep an eye on what the Japanese are doing, and try to give them a costly defeat or two. And you might be able to pick off advances that are too audacious for what the Japanese are sending. That's about it.

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ORIGINAL: JeffK

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India
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Jeff cuts the rail between Calcutta and sothern part of India. Everything got out short of a Indian BDE and some battered BFs and battalions from Burma. They will now hide in the mountains while we prepare the counter attack.

I hope you mean "Game map south of Calcutta", otherwise you are in deep doo doo!

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

It will be interested to see how the P-38s do in your game with the altitude restrictions. In late August '42 with the "E" models, three groups of 25 planes each swept Cox's Bazar. Facing just Oscars and Zeros on CAP, I was able to sweep in at 34k and get 42:2 odds in destroyed planes. Needless to say, John 3rd is not too happy with these results. The Tojo didn't do much better. In October, I get the "G" models in at 60/month. Superior speed and altitude sure does help.