Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: HITMAN202

Any HQBUP in AGC with this mud ????

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ORIGINAL: mattp

No doubt routing 2 pz divisions has improved not only the morale of your troops but your personal morale as well! For SHC at this point routing panzer divisions feels like capturing Berlin. Gentle reminder to the Germans that the SHC bites back. If he keeps bombing LEN port, he's not gonna have a any stukas left.

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ORIGINAL: chaos45

One key note on your T8 pictures you should have left a couple divisions at the base of his penetration, yes he will destroy them....but it adds Zoc supply penalties for him to push supplies through then...thus reducing what gets to his spearheads and costs him more trucks....every little bit and only for the cost prolly 1-2 divisions as the guys inside are dead anyway so leaving one at the far end wouldnt matter.

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ORIGINAL: HITMAN202

Recall my War Room blog on mud not being so bad for the Germans ?? Ask Huw Jones.

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ORIGINAL: HITMAN202

Recall my War Room blog on mud not being so bad for the Germans ?? Ask Huw Jones.

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ORIGINAL: VigaBrand

Peltons flexibility killed him. If you look at the old AARs from Pelton, you see one plan very often. First taking Leningrad, reinforce Army Group Center with the tanks from AG North after taking Leningrad and push to Moscow. Here, pelton sees the weak spot in the Center and strikes with great skills and change is first object. Thats great strategical skill.

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ORIGINAL: chaos45

IDK again I see issues with the combat system especially allowing AGN with less assets to get same results against a very committed Soviet defense- just spun myself up on the history of the leningrad operations some this afternoon....AGN lost all offensive capability when its armor got pulled historically and it was requiring the use of all 7 panzer/motorized divisions to make the progress it did.

So in turn if German High command pulls half AGN armor support that should doom the leningrad campaign....as you can see in the game system it does not.

Heres hoping next patch makes more graphics soldiers and vehicles die in combat so we can get some realistic results.

Also as to WiTE2-----please have an orders setting for dedication of the defense or a unit for the soviets thats limits but makes a hex hold at all costs. Several board games give the Soviets a limited amount of NKVD political units that cant be rebuilt but in effect make a hex that are in hold at all costs- the result is it modifies combat tables to be bloodier for both sides and prevents retreats.....or better yet make a fortified unit that you can only have a limited amount of that does the same thing.

Soviets should have this type of unit available for situations such as leningrad/moscow/stalingrad were they just feed units into the meat grinder and retreat wasnt an option.

The Germans should prolly have a very limited amount of similar type units to represent the stands at Bresalua and Konigsburg.

Another issue for leningrad is there is no Soviet navy....beached Soviet naval artillery was a huge factor in why leningrad held.....the fortified zones dont have near the firepower of constant naval gunnery.....unless you update the leningrad fort zones to more than normal as special case with super heavy artillery and more manpower to make them worth keeping around when they germans get adjacent. they even dismounted some of cruiser guns and used them in land artillery strongpoints. Bet defending 8inch gun batteries would make German attacks abit more brutal.

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ORIGINAL: chaos45

IDK again I see issues with the combat system especially allowing AGN with less assets to get same results against a very committed Soviet defense- just spun myself up on the history of the leningrad operations some this afternoon....AGN lost all offensive capability when its armor got pulled historically and it was requiring the use of all 7 panzer/motorized divisions to make the progress it did.

So in turn if German High command pulls half AGN armor support that should doom the leningrad campaign....as you can see in the game system it does not.

Heres hoping next patch makes more graphics soldiers and vehicles die in combat so we can get some realistic results.

Also as to WiTE2-----please have an orders setting for dedication of the defense or a unit for the soviets thats limits but makes a hex hold at all costs. Several board games give the Soviets a limited amount of NKVD political units that cant be rebuilt but in effect make a hex that are in hold at all costs- the result is it modifies combat tables to be bloodier for both sides and prevents retreats.....or better yet make a fortified unit that you can only have a limited amount of that does the same thing.

Soviets should have this type of unit available for situations such as leningrad/moscow/stalingrad were they just feed units into the meat grinder and retreat wasnt an option.

The Germans should prolly have a very limited amount of similar type units to represent the stands at Bresalua and Konigsburg.

Another issue for leningrad is there is no Soviet navy....beached Soviet naval artillery was a huge factor in why leningrad held.....the fortified zones dont have near the firepower of constant naval gunnery.....unless you update the leningrad fort zones to more than normal as special case with super heavy artillery and more manpower to make them worth keeping around when they germans get adjacent. they even dismounted some of cruiser guns and used them in land artillery strongpoints. Bet defending 8inch gun batteries would make German attacks abit more brutal.

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ORIGINAL: Pelton

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ORIGINAL: chaos45

IDK again I see issues with the combat system especially allowing AGN with less assets to get same results against a very committed Soviet defense- just spun myself up on the history of the leningrad operations some this afternoon....AGN lost all offensive capability when its armor got pulled historically and it was requiring the use of all 7 panzer/motorized divisions to make the progress it did.

So in turn if German High command pulls half AGN armor support that should doom the leningrad campaign....as you can see in the game system it does not.

Heres hoping next patch makes more graphics soldiers and vehicles die in combat so we can get some realistic results.

Also as to WiTE2-----please have an orders setting for dedication of the defense or a unit for the soviets thats limits but makes a hex hold at all costs. Several board games give the Soviets a limited amount of NKVD political units that cant be rebuilt but in effect make a hex that are in hold at all costs- the result is it modifies combat tables to be bloodier for both sides and prevents retreats.....or better yet make a fortified unit that you can only have a limited amount of that does the same thing.

Soviets should have this type of unit available for situations such as leningrad/moscow/stalingrad were they just feed units into the meat grinder and retreat wasnt an option.

The Germans should prolly have a very limited amount of similar type units to represent the stands at Bresalua and Konigsburg.

Another issue for leningrad is there is no Soviet navy....beached Soviet naval artillery was a huge factor in why leningrad held.....the fortified zones dont have near the firepower of constant naval gunnery.....unless you update the leningrad fort zones to more than normal as special case with super heavy artillery and more manpower to make them worth keeping around when they germans get adjacent. they even dismounted some of cruiser guns and used them in land artillery strongpoints. Bet defending 8inch gun batteries would make German attacks abit more brutal.

Simply wrong as you generally are when it comes to the WtiE after turn 1.

WitE is not a book or a movie its a game and when one side screws up the other changes history and you can throw out your historical stats they mean NOTHING, zip zero other then your really starting to look like a big crybaby.

If you look at the AAR with and open mind you can see I was grinding forward to slowly,
BUT Huw saw he was screwed in center and started pulling troops from north.

So he made to mistakes

1. way to much in the north
2. did not see me move troops to center in time

Your whining about history has ZIP to do with our game because of player mistake.

Thanks for the game Huw you are not a cry baby and saw and learnt from your mistakes

You will surely hand the next person their German head on a platter.

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ORIGINAL: mattp

It's a game and I agree that on the surface it can be viewed as an obvious flaw. BUT........if the Germans has less man in Summer '42 something else would need to change to balance it out because if the Germans have 2.5m men in 1942 the Russians are in Warsaw early '43.... You guys keep focusing on the east front in 1942, focus on the east front in 2015. Admittedly, it's not a perfect system, but it's the best one out there and in general is pro-soviet (as it should be). So I don't see the point of constantly bringing up troop numbers and casualty rates, focus instead on winning with what you, and the enemy, has right now and play the game.