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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/7/2016 6:52:40 PM

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I think the calculation would be something along the following lines.

1:2 would be 22:44. You have 17:44. That rounds down to 1:3. Since 1:3 is actually 14.667, you have 2.33 towards 1:2 (17-14.667). The gap between 1:3 and 1:2 is 22-14.6667 = 7.333. The fractional odds would be 2.333/5.333 = 0.318.

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Pure. Frontier. Gibberish

I don't follow you. I was simply trying to determine the odds based upon how the fractional odds rules are written.

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Not a fan of Blazing Saddles then Keith?

I have nothing but admiration for anyone that understands numbers and maths and ****. They scare the living crap out of me.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/7/2016 7:01:59 PM

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I think the calculation would be something along the following lines.

1:2 would be 22:44. You have 17:44. That rounds down to 1:3. Since 1:3 is actually 14.667, you have 2.33 towards 1:2 (17-14.667). The gap between 1:3 and 1:2 is 22-14.6667 = 7.333. The fractional odds would be 2.333/5.333 = 0.318.

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Pure. Frontier. Gibberish

I don't follow you. I was simply trying to determine the odds based upon how the fractional odds rules are written.

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Not a fan of Blazing Saddles then Keith?

I have nothing but admiration for anyone that understands numbers and maths and ****. They scare the living crap out of me.

Long time since I last watched it.

Apart from THE scene, the only line I remember is Gene Wilde's "Look at that, steady as a rock....but I shoot with this hand". Close up of wildly trembing hand.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/7/2016 7:04:57 PM

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Okay, MWiF didn't allow any fractional roll and simply applied the -1 penalty for 1:3. This gave a net modifier of +1, whereas it should be +2. I've therefore manually input a 2 instead of the 1 Mayhemizer rolled to simulate the effect of the fractional roll. Losses are as below.

Having problems uploading the picture. The result was 2/-. Germany destroys Hamburg Mil and 1st Mot Div, leaving a disorganised X Inf in the hex.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/7/2016 7:07:29 PM

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Italy uses Arm HQ to reorganise the Nav in Spain.

On a 4, turn continues.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/7/2016 10:35:01 PM

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For some reason I am not seeing the pictures in people's posts. Anyone have any idea why?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/8/2016 2:43:46 AM

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Was there a server under a maintaince or something like that?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/8/2016 6:54:39 AM

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Was there a server under a maintaince or something like that?

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Yes - I have just been able to post a picture this morning that I could not last night.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/8/2016 6:08:17 PM

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There will be no action by Western Allies this evening. The impossibility for US to transport convouys from USA to CW on US resources even though it should be allowed takes to much time trying to fix, or alternatively to get around.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/8/2016 7:01:17 PM

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Frustration city Arizona

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/10/2016 7:08:00 AM

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So gents how widespread do we think the fractional odds problem is? Is the game consistently getting the calculation wrong?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/10/2016 8:28:46 AM

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What is the problem there? Does it not work correctly for odds < 1:1 ?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/10/2016 2:58:23 PM

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Looks like fractional odds are wrong when odds are lower than 1:1. I don't remember any problems with higher odds.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 1:16:44 PM

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No declarations of war.

Land: China
Combined: USSR, USA, CW
Naval: France

No Port Strikes. No naval air.

USA send out 5 CPs between US and UK.

CW send one CP to the Eastern Mediterranean and two more to the Atlantic. France also send one convoy point to the Atlantic.

Edit: CW and France can activate combat in three sea areas but decline in all three. Axis can not activate in any sea area at all.

A British bomber stationed in Morocco bombs Madrid for no effect. The bomber then land in Bilbao.

Picture from Mar/Apr '41 Impulse #11 (Allied) - Strategic Bombing

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 1:26:24 PM

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Mar/Apr '41
Impulse #11

A CW militia rail from Auckland to Wellington.

Over to Warspite1 for the rest of the impulse.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 4:23:20 PM

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Haven't seen a picture of Poland in a while...

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 4:30:26 PM

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Picture from Mar/Apr '41 Impulse #11 (Allied) - Rail Movement (Weather mostly rain)

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 5:33:42 PM

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Mar/Apr 1941
Impulse: 11

Chinese Communists:
4:1 GARR and 5-4 MTN join together in the desert northwest of Sian
The 3-4 CAV is taken out of the frontline to act as a rapid reaction strategic reserve.

Soviet Union
That leaves two moves for the Soviets Mechanised and motorised armies north of the Pripyat marshes to find comfort in the forests of Latvia and Belorussia.

Chinese Nationalists
Nothing in the north, but in China south-central there are numerous detail changes of position - see map below

Commonwealth
The IVth Indian (Motorized) Corps is sent to defend Singapore, while the 2nd Infantry Division is offloaded in Tangier.

Rebase
The Whitley is sent to Malta and the Harrow to Spanish Morocco.

Re-organisation
Gort reorganises a Whitley Bomber in Bilbao.

China Crisis or Just Wishful Thinking?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 6:02:30 PM

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Mar/Apr 1941
Impulse: 11

The turn continues on a 7 (less than 6 required)

Impulse: 13

Weather: 7

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 7:31:46 PM

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M/A 41 Axis 13

No DoW or alignments.

Germany land, Italy naval, Japan combined.

Japan moves Inf from Osaka to Hanoi and a sub to Truk.

Italy sends a BB and CP to Italian Coast. Do the Allies wish to intercept?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 7:37:10 PM

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The French so desire.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 7:47:28 PM

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The French sub successfully intercepts the Italian ships (4 rolled). The Italians decide to stay put in the 0-box.

An Italian CA also moves into the Italian Coast. Does the sub wish to intercept this one?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 7:52:39 PM

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An Italian CA also moves into the Italian Coast. Does the sub wish to intercept this one?

Indeed.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 7:56:15 PM

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Another 4 sees the cruiser intercepted. It decides to stay in the 4-box.

Finally, the remaining battleship heads out. Another attempt?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 8:01:23 PM

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Finally, the remaining battleship heads out. Another attempt?

Indeed.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 8:05:21 PM

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This time the intercept fails on an 8. The BB continues to the East Med. I decide the Allies will probably decline this one and stop the BB in the 3-box.

Four areas for naval combat but Italy will decline the Italian Coast.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 8:08:11 PM

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First up, Cape St Vincent.

The Italian sub begins searching. No additional air is added by the Axis. CW can add the Harrow up to the 1-box. Does it join the defence?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 8:16:03 PM

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No thank you.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 11/14/2016 8:28:37 PM

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Searches: Axis 1, Allies 2. Both sides find each other.

The Axis elect for naval air and add the Me-110 as a bomber. Two surprise points are used to reduce AA to lowest 1 of 4. Rolls of 10, 4, 4, 6 make the Axis think they should have saved the surprise points. Isn't hindsight wonderful

. Two air factors are left, giving a D, which goes on Dunkerque. A good bit of ship driving sees her heading to port relatively unscathed.

Axis continue. Allies?