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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/11/2017 3:21:51 PM

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The IJN flyers get to the CAP in a big sweep and do lessen the defences significantly for later strikes. The defenders do also take out about 6-8 A6M, which likely means that many expert pilots.

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 6
P-40B Warhawk x 13
P-40E Warhawk x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 21000 feet

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/11/2017 3:27:38 PM

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Vals are next up, and the depleted CAP actually does an amazing job here of fighting through the escorts to get to them, lessening the strike against the cruisers. Still, one does get a bomb onto the Houston, which already had taken a few shots in the previous day's battle. It took out an 8inch gun mount and penetrated, which isn't positive.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 23

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2
P-40B Warhawk x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Honolulu
CL Marblehead
CA Houston, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/11/2017 3:33:12 PM

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The CAP again does well to get to some Sallys who come over next. They get in some shots on the ships in the shipyards though. One bomb each, and because there is a sin problem, I don't know if they had extra messages or not.

Amazing only three hits from 48 Sallys!

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 48
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2
P-40B Warhawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Bomb hits 1
CA Chester, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
CL Achilles, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 14000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 14000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/11/2017 3:38:03 PM

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The very meagre remaining Dutch and RAF fighters sweep Balikpapan to thin out CAP for a possible 4E strike against port and oil. They haven't flown on these same orders for three days but ...

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/11/2017 3:41:56 PM

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... finally they make it!

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CM Shirataka, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Oil hits 7
Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/11/2017 3:44:38 PM

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A total of 11 oil hits and several mine and support ships hit. The cruisers and other ships that are damaged are sitting in the hex in TFs.

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CM Kamome, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AKE Kureha Maru #3, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CM Shirataka, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 8000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/11/2017 7:27:20 PM

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Jan 18, 1942

SUBS: A few subs join in to scout the North, and the RN subs just on map are running fast to the DEI. No good hits this turn. Still haven't lost a sub outside of port this game. (A few did go under at Manila).

Soon his ASW air will pick up skill, but I'm committed to using subs throughout the game very aggressively. I have some ideas about what to do in the middle game, but that's still a long way off!

DEI: One last strike came through and meant a few more Oscars and Vals were splashed.

The fields at Singers were not hit at all, so if air crews can patch up some planes about 25 should be up for CAP tomorrow I'd guess. I can fly in the P-38Es but I have to see what is in the area first. If there are more bombardment scares that's not a good plan. Maybe the AKE we hit the previous night was intended for Sinkep, or a nearby port to Singers, and that could mean those BBs and CLs found by subs might be heading off to replenish. The BBs cannot get main armament shells anywhere nearby, so maybe they're off to Cam Ran Bay or even Hong Kong.

PACIFIC: There were no fireworks up North. A sigh of relief as the CVs made it through to near Paramushiro, and they'll now head East. Hopefully Tone will not escape.

CHINA: Not much going on.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 50,84

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 5
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 22

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 5
P-40B Warhawk x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses
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Tone has a little smoke, so probably isn't at full speed. Curious to see if anything is near where the CVs ended up near Paramushiro Jima.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/11/2017 9:05:41 PM

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This is fascinating - a really good look at how bloody the first few months of the war can really be.

Of course, I am reminded that the IJN was actually projecting something like 50% losses in their conquest plans, but again, they were also expecting that the Allies (and the US) would sue for peace too (rendering those losses moot).

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/11/2017 10:11:30 PM

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That thin smoke with no orange for fire commonly denotes only systems damage ~ 10. That would do nothing to affect the ship's speed. However, if he ran the Tone at high speed and that caused the system damage, Tone may also be short on fuel.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/12/2017 5:16:53 AM

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That thin smoke with no orange for fire commonly denotes only systems damage ~ 10. That would do nothing to affect the ship's speed. However, if he ran the Tone at high speed and that caused the system damage, Tone may also be short on fuel.

In my experience it also means there might be a point or two of engine damage, especially having been traversing the arctic for a month during winter. Just a hope, anyway, that she can't scuttle past the CVs to safety.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/12/2017 6:24:02 PM

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This is fascinating - a really good look at how bloody the first few months of the war can really be.

I agree with paullus99 - a really epic struggle is taking place.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/12/2017 7:50:59 PM

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Jeff's daughter graduated college over the weekend so he was probably a bit busy yesterday, meaning I don't yet have the turn file. Itching to see what happened and where things end up, as well as the amount of damage to ships.

I'm toying with some ideas. By tracing the red lines of the Nettie strikes from a screenshot of the previous day's attacks at Tandjoengbalai. I've pretty much realised they came from Victoria Point. The difficulty with this is that it's going to be hard to bomb or bombard that base if I'd like to engineer a breakout with any damaged ships from Singers into the Indian Ocean. I will get Perth and company out at least. They'll flank into safety next turn.

Other ships may only be moving 5 hexes a cycle and that means I'd need to get them to air cover in step 1 along the Sumatra or Malay coast. Then in step 2 I'd have to get them to the Sabang area under CAP or just after hitting Victoria Point.

I could send a flank run RN TF to hit Victoria Point, but if there are other bombers based at Georgetown or Alor Star those ships would still be vulnerable. Plus a flank run doesn't always bombard before air strikes fly!!!

Interesting problem. Not insurmountable though. I could use the ships escaping to bombard as well. They could get to Tanjoe on Sumatra under a CAP, then hit Georgetown and/or Alor Star, then break for Sabang. Possibly a simultaneous bombardment at Victoria Point could come from afar. I do also have Hermes coming loaded with Wildcats, so can in 12-15 turns provide some CAP, but that's a bit risky too.

The next turn will be interesting. I'm curious to see the damage on the ships that were hit.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/12/2017 7:57:13 PM

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This is fascinating - a really good look at how bloody the first few months of the war can really be.

I agree with paullus99 - a really epic struggle is taking place.

I'm curious to see how much more industrial and naval damage I can do while the few bases left in the DEI hold out. Then it's on to the defensive for a bit. I've been preparing OZ especially over the first months and I'll keep sending fighters there in favour of India.

The epic struggle is just beginning!

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/13/2017 11:39:19 AM

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I've been preparing OZ especially over the first months and I'll keep sending fighters there in favour of India.

Yeah, that decision where to send the troops is crucial.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/13/2017 3:28:13 PM

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I've been preparing OZ especially over the first months and I'll keep sending fighters there in favour of India.

Yeah, that decision where to send the troops is crucial.

The troops part isn't actually as crucial to me yet. Once I know more about his ability and interest to try next level invasions it might be more critical. I'm more interested in making VP harvesting in OZ by strat bombing difficult. With this in mind a lot of units usually sent to India will go here.

Right now I'm playing to hold critical areas by collapsing all forces and concentrating them in the rear, beyond the LODs on each continent (aside from CON US where they are forward and massed in the key industrial centres).

India is Karachi and Bombay. All troops will sit there and build forts until those bases are known to be safe. Calcutta is up for grabs. If he wants it it's his. I'll get to level 8 first before moving anything out in those two major cities and also build up the islands at Socotra and Diego if possible. Ceylon will not be defended.

I will try a last stand at Lashio and Myiktkyina to stall advances into the mountains, and will do anything to hold Paoshan and Tsuyang. China will be the usual grind, I'm sure, slowly losing as supply dwindles.

In OZ I'll try to make it tougher to get Perth and Western OZ, but only if it looks possible to stall based on fort levels and what he's bringing. If he goes all-in we'll pull back.

I don't know what to expect from Jeff (lowpe) as his games so far have been pick-ups. So he hasn't had the luxury of planning a strategic goal fro Japan from day 1 before now. I'm curious based on his knowledge of late war to see what he will do.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/13/2017 3:34:12 PM

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Fighters wont really help you defend against strat bombing in OZ. Your pools are too shallow and air frames too poor. Send US AA units there ASAP. Buy them out if needed. You get some OZ AA units but they wont arrive until April/May so unless you send US AA there you won�t have any at all!

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/13/2017 3:39:26 PM

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I've been preparing OZ especially over the first months and I'll keep sending fighters there in favour of India.

Yeah, that decision where to send the troops is crucial.

The troops part isn't actually as crucial to me yet. Once I know more about his ability and interest to try next level invasions it might be more critical. I'm more interested in making VP harvesting in OZ by strat bombing difficult. With this in mind a lot of units usually sent to India will go here.

Right now I'm playing to hold critical areas by collapsing all forces and concentrating them in the rear, beyond the LODs on each continent (aside from CON US where they are forward and massed in the key industrial centres).

India is Karachi and Bombay. All troops will sit there and build forts until those bases are known to be safe. Calcutta is up for grabs. If he wants it it's his. I'll get to level 8 first before moving anything out in those two major cities and also build up the islands at Socotra and Diego if possible. Ceylon will not be defended.

I will try a last stand at Lashio and Myiktkyina to stall advances into the mountains, and will do anything to hold Paoshan and Tsuyang. China will be the usual grind, I'm sure, slowly losing as supply dwindles.

In OZ I'll try to make it tougher to get Perth and Western OZ, but only if it looks possible to stall based on fort levels and what he's bringing. If he goes all-in we'll pull back.

I don't know what to expect from Jeff (lowpe) as his games so far have been pick-ups. So he hasn't had the luxury of planning a strategic goal fro Japan from day 1 before now. I'm curious based on his knowledge of late war to see what he will do.

Curious as to why you will not defend Ceylon, do you perceive it as a place where LCUs get trapped and destroyed?

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/13/2017 3:47:58 PM

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I've been preparing OZ especially over the first months and I'll keep sending fighters there in favour of India.

Yeah, that decision where to send the troops is crucial.

The troops part isn't actually as crucial to me yet. Once I know more about his ability and interest to try next level invasions it might be more critical. I'm more interested in making VP harvesting in OZ by strat bombing difficult. With this in mind a lot of units usually sent to India will go here.

Right now I'm playing to hold critical areas by collapsing all forces and concentrating them in the rear, beyond the LODs on each continent (aside from CON US where they are forward and massed in the key industrial centres).

India is Karachi and Bombay. All troops will sit there and build forts until those bases are known to be safe. Calcutta is up for grabs. If he wants it it's his. I'll get to level 8 first before moving anything out in those two major cities and also build up the islands at Socotra and Diego if possible. Ceylon will not be defended.

I will try a last stand at Lashio and Myiktkyina to stall advances into the mountains, and will do anything to hold Paoshan and Tsuyang. China will be the usual grind, I'm sure, slowly losing as supply dwindles.

In OZ I'll try to make it tougher to get Perth and Western OZ, but only if it looks possible to stall based on fort levels and what he's bringing. If he goes all-in we'll pull back.

I don't know what to expect from Jeff (lowpe) as his games so far have been pick-ups. So he hasn't had the luxury of planning a strategic goal fro Japan from day 1 before now. I'm curious based on his knowledge of late war to see what he will do.

Curious as to why you will not defend Ceylon, do you perceive it as a place where LCUs get trapped and destroyed?

Yep.

Allied troops aren't good enough at this stage to defend anything in India outside a few bases. Even Madras is too far forward, although it sucks when it's taken as so many troops arrive there.

Ceylon is a death trap for anything good enough (Brit or Aussie divisions) to defend it.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/14/2017 8:52:04 AM

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Got the turn file back.

Houston is still in decent shape, luckily. Chester is struggling after another bomb hit while in shipyards. She might be the last to be able to leave Singers if I can engineer a breakout of some of the ships.

No sign of any shipping up North. He either ran Tone into Paramishiro and disbanded, which is risky and would't usually work at the end of ops points for the day after such a long run. At least it hasn't for me!

So ... I think Tone is still in the Aleutians, as are several xAKE and other escorts. Tomorrow I'll move that way.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/14/2017 11:19:10 AM

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Do you feel like the Germans did breaking out of Brest and thought he Channel?

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Right now I'm playing to hold critical areas by collapsing all forces and concentrating them in the rear, beyond the LODs on each continent (aside from CON US where they are forward and massed in the key industrial centres).

India is Karachi and Bombay. All troops will sit there and build forts until those bases are known to be safe. Calcutta is up for grabs. If he wants it it's his. I'll get to level 8 first before moving anything out in those two major cities and also build up the islands at Socotra and Diego if possible. Ceylon will not be defended.

I will try a last stand at Lashio and Myiktkyina to stall advances into the mountains, and will do anything to hold Paoshan and Tsuyang. China will be the usual grind, I'm sure, slowly losing as supply dwindles.

In OZ I'll try to make it tougher to get Perth and Western OZ, but only if it looks possible to stall based on fort levels and what he's bringing. If he goes all-in we'll pull back.

Essentially what I did in my current game, but my opponent landed in Oz really early and I poured reinforcements in.

I wouldn't try to hold Western Oz, it just drains troops from the Sydney/Melbourne axis.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/15/2017 6:27:17 AM

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Right now I'm playing to hold critical areas by collapsing all forces and concentrating them in the rear, beyond the LODs on each continent (aside from CON US where they are forward and massed in the key industrial centres).

India is Karachi and Bombay. All troops will sit there and build forts until those bases are known to be safe. Calcutta is up for grabs. If he wants it it's his. I'll get to level 8 first before moving anything out in those two major cities and also build up the islands at Socotra and Diego if possible. Ceylon will not be defended.

I will try a last stand at Lashio and Myiktkyina to stall advances into the mountains, and will do anything to hold Paoshan and Tsuyang. China will be the usual grind, I'm sure, slowly losing as supply dwindles.

In OZ I'll try to make it tougher to get Perth and Western OZ, but only if it looks possible to stall based on fort levels and what he's bringing. If he goes all-in we'll pull back.

Essentially what I did in my current game, but my opponent landed in Oz really early and I poured reinforcements in.

I wouldn't try to hold Western Oz, it just drains troops from the Sydney/Melbourne axis.

I hear you. i really doubt he'll cross the LOD on any continent. I think he's seen the effects of reinforcements coming in, especially airframe numbers and quality. I could REALLY use a few groups worth of Spit VIII in late 42, so if he's interested, go for it. I'm holding and building Kalgoorlie and all escape hatch base so if he comes on both coasts everything will just rail back and hold up in Sydney. The Americal and other USA units will be down there too.

I've got a slightly forward placement of troops in So Pac now, the goal of which is to delay any move farther into Noumea, Fiji, NZ or OZ. Now he could just bypass, but that would create some opportunities to raid the LOC too. So I think he'll likely take what's on offer and not go all-in somewhere with the kind of destruction we've been looking at so far. Or maybe he'll try to push to AV considering the extra points for CV losses. Can't rule that out, it's just tough to achieve.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/15/2017 7:57:33 AM

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Do you feel like the Germans did breaking out of Brest and thought he Channel?

Well, not quite as I'm really looking at how to get through a web of Netties, not hundreds of surface ships, at least on that side. Luckily there are two approaches to Singers. Makes me think I could almost engineer some supply coming in too if I'd thought of that before, sending in xAKs during the turns when I send cruisers out.

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I've just catched up. That's impressive defence.

I wonder though where did you get enough aviation support for that? There isn't enough even for Dutch alone.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/15/2017 7:59:26 PM

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I've just catched up. That's impressive defence.

I wonder though where did you get enough aviation support for that? There isn't enough even for Dutch alone.

That's a good question.

Actually, there is quite a lot of Dutch aviation support spread around, but, you're right, not enough concentrated. Also, if you're adding 4Es that is a lot more support needed.

I managed to get almost ALL of the Malayan units back to Singers. First time I've done that. So a few have been flown out to use on Java and filled out with more support squads. Also, I bought some of the bigger US base forces from the PI and flew them down to service some of the 4E bases. Some of these guys actually did fly out of Clark and Manila in the war to base on Mindanao and other areas, and 4Es were used for all kinds of work in these early days.

If some of the Dutch bases are still operational by 2/42 I'll start to get Hurri IIb and the following month some P-40E for the Dutch. There are some decent pilots, so 2-3 groups could be fairly decent until 4/42 when Tojos start flooding the scene. That's when it's time to pack up and go home!

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/15/2017 8:06:14 PM

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Fighters wont really help you defend against strat bombing in OZ. Your pools are too shallow and air frames too poor. Send US AA units there ASAP. Buy them out if needed. You get some OZ AA units but they wont arrive until April/May so unless you send US AA there you won�t have any at all!

Just saw this. Thanks Jocke!

You're absolutely right, and I've been only considering if those are KB raids or long range attacks from Northern OZ. More AA helps against both and also mitigates the difficulties of him moving into Tojo range and sweeping our poor Kittyhawls away.

I've got a few coming this way, and again, anything arriving from Cape Town and even Aden will most likely try to get to OZ. Enough arrives in India to hold what I need to hold early.

They're not expensive, so I'll buy a few and start the journey i the next week or two. So if in a month he starts to get interested in that area they'll be getting close to Sydney already.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/16/2017 9:17:30 PM

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Here is a big map. i've been debating with myself about whether to risk a bombardment of Palembang or not. It looks like both of the big BB TFs in the area are moving away from the scene, and the port seems to be defended by a few ASW ships.

Balikpapan has a few damaged ships still sitting in the hex, but not in port. There is another BB TF there along with a bunch of other stuff.

Subs gather at the choke points and some trail the KB, trying to stay in touch.

I've decided to bring the P-38s back to Singers and hold tight, keep the CLs in the next to defend and try to repair the CAs a bit more.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/16/2017 9:30:35 PM

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Here are the air losses from the last turn. We did okay. Although the hits did some damage.

Chester was hit in the shipyard and now has 68 service with 32 float damage. That'll need some work. The rest aren't too bad, still able to move 6-7 hexes a phase and no more than 45 system damage. I need about a week do reprieve to get everything ready, but doubt that'll happen.

The P-40Bs are dwindling, so I've upgraded to P-39Ds. The speed and guns will do well in the low CAP bomber killer role, and these are pretty tough planes to survive sweeps if the top layers are able to dive fast, like the P-38s. I need the Hurris to get in here quick!

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/17/2017 4:46:07 AM

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Here is a big map. i've been debating with myself about whether to risk a bombardment of Palembang or not. It looks like both of the big BB TFs in the area are moving away from the scene, and the port seems to be defended by a few ASW ships.

On the other hand, there are Japanese airbases in the area. What are your escape routes?

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 6/18/2017 6:52:42 AM

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Here is a big map. i've been debating with myself about whether to risk a bombardment of Palembang or not. It looks like both of the big BB TFs in the area are moving away from the scene, and the port seems to be defended by a few ASW ships.

On the other hand, there are Japanese airbases in the area. What are your escape routes?

Yes. If I were to close Palembang again, and hit some of the 50-60 A6M2 based there, it would open a LOT of opportunities.

Have the turn now and interestingly he did move the big TF that was near Java back to Palembang. So that would have been a bad option last turn as we would have likely bombarded, then been possibly caught with low ammo and minced.

As it is ...

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