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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 12:35:06 PM

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China:
Kashgar - Almost 100 4e 'beasties' bomb troop when weather permits.

What an absolute waste of a mission.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 12:39:52 PM

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Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 137287 troops, 1378 guns, 974 vehicles, Assault Value = 4365

Defending force 533484 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15056

Japanese adjusted assault: 2318

Allied adjusted defense: 3389

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3522 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 619 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
Guns lost 31 (2 destroyed, 29 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
68485 casualties reported
Squads: 2359 destroyed, 413 disabled
Non Combat: 1955 destroyed, 175 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 27 (25 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units destroyed 14

Most of the divisions have around 30 plus squads disabled, but with high disruption and fatigue across them all. They are divided, but the worst two are ordered to march 2 hexes for R&R while fresh troops march here. No fort reduction.

I thought that would happen. No fort reduction is poor luck, but not detrimental. Chungking can only take 8-10 more attacks like that spread out over about 5 days.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 12:43:03 PM

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Notes:
A7M3 Sam to 5/45

C6N1 Myrt to 7/44

Ki-43-IV Oscar to 8/45

N1K5-J George to 6/44

I though Sam in this mod was accelerated to a 2/45 start?

I think at this point the Oscar IV needs only minimal r&d if you have engine bonus. Better off putting those facilities into the Ki94II, Shinden, Ki83, or even Karyu. Perhaps a dedicated kamikaze if you have those bases covered.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 12:47:01 PM

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A7M2 Sam will start production in 1/44.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 12:57:01 PM

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Michael, was that your first deliberate assault on Chungking? Also, how long have you been bombarding it with artillery? I finally did my first bombardment there. The AV is about the same for my game. Just wondering how long to bombard before trying an assault.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 1:13:11 PM

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Michael, was that your first deliberate assault on Chungking? Also, how long have you been bombarding it with artillery? I finally did my first bombardment there. The AV is about the same for my game. Just wondering how long to bombard before trying an assault.

Mike, you can't compare results, this game has stacking limits, and yours doesn't.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 1:14:41 PM

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I'm a long way from having to use kamikazes, but I need to do something at some point.

Michael

Always another tough decision. I would solicit thoughts here and then sit back. A lot of it stems from how you will plan to use them.
I'll provide you just a teaser here of how difficult this is:
Kate - packs a good punch, has great range (relatively as a kami, 7 is good), but is painfully slow.
Toka/Tsurugi - packs a good punch, but the range is only 5, however, great speed.
I'm not suggesting you won't have both, you likely will. BUT, where do you focus?
This is just one small part of your decision tree, you can do this for another 6 or 7 model 'pairs'.

I honestly don't believe there is a best choice here, BUT I do believe that for each player in a specific game, there is a best choice. Make sense?

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 1:18:00 PM

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Notes:
Screen shot shows two things. Current position of KB and what warships are due upgrades in Dec 43. The 4 CAs are leaving Port Hedland for Soerabaja. I'm thinking since it will take some time to rebuild my shattered DB & TB groups to send these ships up to Japan for upgrades (25 days). So KB would be weakened until late Jan 44. I have another large group due upgrades in Apr 44.

Painful as it is, you gotta do those upgrades ... at least in stock. If this is like stock, then the AA and radar upgrades are well worth the month of down time.

Actually, it isn't painful to do the upgrades, just suspense laden. If the ships are upgrading safely, you know they won't be sunk!

Well, yes you are right. But the pain is when you need the KB (or whatever ship is in drydock upgrade) and you can't have it .... that's against the unthinking AI ... against a player who might know your upgrade timing ...
as the allies it would mean a 'free' amphib op or maybe two ... i know the KB won't oppose me, so the defense optins are limited and I can load up for them.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 1:28:59 PM

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I'm a long way from having to use kamikazes, but I need to do something at some point.

Michael

Always another tough decision. I would solicit thoughts here and then sit back. A lot of it stems from how you will plan to use them.
I'll provide you just a teaser here of how difficult this is:
Kate - packs a good punch, has great range (relatively as a kami, 7 is good), but is painfully slow.
Toka/Tsurugi - packs a good punch, but the range is only 5, however, great speed.
I'm not suggesting you won't have both, you likely will. BUT, where do you focus?
This is just one small part of your decision tree, you can do this for another 6 or 7 model 'pairs'.

I honestly don't believe there is a best choice here, BUT I do believe that for each player in a specific game, there is a best choice. Make sense?

If you want to attack at over 360mph you have only three bomber choices. Somebody used Recon planes (njp?) to good effect. Fighters and Fighter bomber squadrons are needed for other duty.

Kami attacks are almost always land based, subject to fracturing, and a horde of slow planes I think is almost always VP for the Allies. In fact, can you name me one recent JFB that has done well with kamikazes?

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 2:01:10 PM

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R&D

A7M2 Sam......1/44...2 x 90
A7M3 Sam......5/45...6 x 30
A7M3-J Sam....2/45...1 x 16(14)
B6N2a Jill....4/44...2 x 30
B7A2 Grace....8/44...2 x 30
C6N1 Myrt.....7/44...1 x 15
C6N1-S Myrt...5/45...1 x 15
D4Y4 Judy.....4/44...3 x 30
E16A1 Paul....1/44...1 x 15
G4M1-L Betty..4/44...1 x 15
G8N1 Rita.....11/44..1 x 8(7)
J6M1..........9/45...2 x 30(30)
J7W1 Shinden..12/45..6 x 112(98)
Ki-100-I Tony....9/44...1 x 30
Ki-102a Randy....2/45...1 x 30
Ki-102c Randy....9/45...3 x 49(41)
Ki-115a Tsurugi..6/45...2 x 50(11)
Ki-43-IV Oscar...8/45...2 x 30
Ki-46-III KAIb Dinah...8/44...1 x 30
Ki-61-II KAIb Tony.....4/44...2 x 30
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy.....5/44...3 x 30
Ki-83.........9/45...4 x 67(53)
Ki-84b Frank..5/44...4 x 30
Ki-84r Frank..11/45..2 x 30
Ki-94-II......2/46...2 x 22(38)
Kikka.........1/46...1 x 8(7)
N1K5-J George.6/44...5 x 30
P1Y2 Frances..3/44...4 x 30
P1y2-S Frances.11/44..1 x 15
Toka..........12/45..2 x 36(24)

What changes would you suggest?

What do I change some of the end of the line models to??

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/25/2018 5:57:40 PM

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Michael, Again, take this with a grain of salt because I don't think there is a magic formula, but here are a few thoughts. Remember, I am not expert on this mod, so my comments relate to stock.

Toka: the IJN version of the Ki-115 Tsurugi. I would not build it. Why? You have 3 IJN models that are far better and already in production: Jill/Judy/Grace. All are about the same speed as the Toka, same load, etc.
Tsurugi: This can be a good choice to use the existing Ha-35 capacity. These can also be effective at high fort bases, those 800kg bombs actually do damage. The 5 range is the issue.
C6N-S: For me, this is the best of a lot of lousy IJN NF's. I say lousy as none have armor, so losses are high. This one at least is 1E, so all the A2A losses against the b-29's hurt only half as much.
Randy NF: It looks like you will still be in the game when this arrives, so sit back and enjoy watching this one work. Your losses will fall in half due to the armor, and the allied losses will double due to it armaments.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/26/2018 12:57:39 AM

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so are you shooting for a 1943 auto victory? you're about 5,000 points short and maybe the continued losses in Chungking will push your over and especially if you can capture it before the end of 43!

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/26/2018 1:05:50 AM

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Already had the AI grant me auto victory earlier in '43. I'm going until Japan is forced to surrender.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/26/2018 12:51:09 PM

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Toka: the IJN version of the Ki-115 Tsurugi. I would not build it. Why? You have 3 IJN models that are far better and already in production: Jill/Judy/Grace. All are about the same speed as the Toka, same load, etc.

In this mod, I think the Toka is a 385 mph screamer, significantly better than Judy 4. it is the ijn version of the Ki115b. A solid choice.

Given recent games, I don't think the Frank B is worth it or the Sam J.

The Grace is light, but you have that base covered with Judy/Jill.

Frances S is the best NF in the game--Myrt is probably 2nd best. Randy's radar doesn't ever come into play unless modded.

You are going to make it late, so personally it would be interesting to see what the Kikka can do.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/26/2018 2:23:49 PM

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I told Brian that we may actually see CVB Midway in action. How many TT hits would that beast take b4 being sunk?? 6 plus?

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/28/2018 12:56:30 AM

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Thanks for the feedback on what planes to focus on in '44 and beyond.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 2/28/2018 1:08:11 AM

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43 Dec 8 thru 11: back to just China....

China:
Kashgar - Allied heavy bombers from India fly over the mountains to bomb my troops here. Yawn!!

Chungking - Severe storms limit my Helens building up their experience on his AF. Four days of ground bombardments. Here is what occurred on 11th...

quote:

Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4806 troops, 307 guns, 394 vehicles, Assault Value = 4332

Defending force 476646 troops, 94 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12480

Allied ground losses:
2692 casualties reported
Squads: 125 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 48 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Notes:
Ki-69-Ia (T) Peggy to 4/44

P1Y2 Frances to 2/44

A7M3 Sam to 4/45

Ki-84b Frank to 4/44

B6N2a Jill to 3/44

Kaigun - Either in Japan for upgrades or taking on fuel at Truk. In next few days, she will be ready again, but just need for airgroups to finish up some more rest (lower airframe fatigue) before restarting training again for KB.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 3/3/2018 11:31:28 AM

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43 Dec 12 thru 15: Yes readers, its just China and logistics right now. With John 3rd vs Canoerebel ending, the most exciting AAR is Lowpe vs Obvert. I wish I could report something happening here, but no joy.

Subs: Triton is hit by ASW TF 2 west of Tabiteuea. I'm making my ASW TFs into 3 ship TF with 2 "E" and a DD.

China:
Kashgar - Bombed by Allies for first three days.
Chungking - Weather ruled most days, so my Helens were grounded. However, I have plenty of artillery to ground bombard as my Infantry Divisions (ID) continue to recover disruption and fatigue. Here is the result for the 20th. I'm reducing his raw AV by about 100 each day.

quote:

Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 17491 troops, 414 guns, 433 vehicles, Assault Value = 4445

Defending force 467836 troops, 88 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12028

Allied ground losses:
1285 casualties reported
Squads: 123 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Notes:
KB (those ships not in Japan for upgrades) is now back at Kusaie Island.

Ki-61-II KAIb Tony to 3/44

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 3/3/2018 12:03:51 PM

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43 Dec 16 thru 19: Another 4 days worth of mostly China

Subs:
SS Tautog is 2 SWW of Eniwetok on morning of 19th. My two G.6 CVs and a few other warships due 1/44 upgrades heading for Japan run over her. Thankfully, ALL 6 TT miss CV Kushiro... <gulp>

China:
Kushgar - No Allied bombers for four days.

Hong Kong - Lots of troops from greater Chungking area are here or marching the last few hexes for redeployment. India and Java/Sumatra get most. Lots of xAPs and Toho Class xAK (t) coming and going.

Chungking - My 190 plus Helens find weather get better and better. Only 1 of 10 ID have any fatigue or disruption left. I'll plan on deliberate attacks twice per month now. Here are results for 19th...

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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 71349 troops, 850 guns, 561 vehicles, Assault Value = 4460

Defending force 460521 troops, 84 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11625

Allied ground losses:
2811 casualties reported
Squads: 153 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CenPac:
Nonouti (1 NW of Tabiteuea) - I start ground attack by 20 Jill and 25 George on 19th. There is a fragment of 24th ID here (rest on Tabiteuea). Troops at Truk almost prepped to retake. A strong SC TF at Kusaie with 4 CA, 2 CLAA, and 9 DDs get ready to bombard it. Counter invasion in about two weeks.

Notes:
N1K5-J George to 5/44

A7M3 Sam to 3/45

Japan - Nagaoka has AF 8 and Niigata has AF 4. I'm building up bases to forts 4 and AF to either 8 or max in western half first. I have 10 construction type units assigned to these two bases.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 3/4/2018 12:23:15 PM

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43 Dec 20 thru 24: No longer boring....Death Star reappears off Tabiteuea!!

Subs:
23rd - Gudgeon is run over by part of KB and later the Combat Replay announces "enemy carriers." Bugger!!

CVs:
20th - TF shows up 3 NE of Baker Island. Looks like transports, but turns out it's not.
21st - Three TFs are now 6 east of Tabiteuea = 329F, 202B, 23Aux & 116F, 37B, 18Aux, & SC TF
22nd - DS is now 2 NE of Tabiteuea
23rd - See screen shot for positions of KB & DS

Aleutians:
Sitkinak - I have a group of Frank and George sweep on 22nd with mixed results.

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Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 27

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 25
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 29000 feet

CAP engaged:
VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 34550.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
20 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 27530.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 30

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 29000 feet

CAP engaged:
VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 29000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes

Losses are 19F, 14G vs 17HC, 9P-38

China:
Chungking - My second attack occurs on 22nd...

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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 139693 troops, 1383 guns, 1050 vehicles, Assault Value = 4457

Defending force 452410 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11255

Japanese adjusted assault: 2092

Allied adjusted defense: 3277

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
13790 casualties reported
Squads: 34 destroyed, 1571 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 142 disabled
Engineers: 36 destroyed, 209 disabled
Guns lost 134 (2 destroyed, 132 disabled)
Vehicles lost 36 (7 destroyed, 29 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
22090 casualties reported
Squads: 1185 destroyed, 505 disabled
Non Combat: 1158 destroyed, 189 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units destroyed 21

All the division are divided and once they recover, I'll do it again.

CenPac:
Nonouti - 20 Jill & 25 George attack his troops on 20th.

Tabiteuea - busy day on the 23rd as Amphib TF and BB TF hit base.

quote:

Night Naval bombardment of Tabiteuea at 137,134 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K1 Emily: 15 damaged
H8K1 Emily: 2 destroyed on ground
N1K1-J George: 18 damaged
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed on ground
A6M3b Zero: 25 damaged
A6M3b Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

50 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Alabama
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1
BB Indiana
CA Rome
CA Wichita
CA Astoria
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 3
CA Northampton
CA Indianapolis
CL Mobile
CL Birmingham
CL Richmond

Japanese ground losses:
720 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 25
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2

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Pre-Invasion action off Tabiteuea (137,134) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

299 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania
BB Arizona, Shell hits 1
CL Jeanne d'Arc, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Cleveland
CL Boise
CLAA Prince Robert
DD Gansevoort
DD Frazier
DD Laffey
AP Gen. T.H.Bliss, Shell hits 3
CVE Tangier
AMC Victor Schoelcher
DD Gillespie

Japanese ground losses:
361 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

BB Pennsylvania firing at 46th Division
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at BB Arizona
BB Arizona firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
CL Jeanne d'Arc firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at CL Jeanne d'Arc
CL Cleveland firing at 46th Division
CL Boise firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at CL Boise
CLAA Prince Robert firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at CLAA Prince Robert
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at DD Gansevoort
DD Gansevoort firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
DD Frazier firing at 43rd Division
DD Laffey firing at 43rd Division
15cm 41YT CD Gun Battery engaging AP Gen. T.H.Bliss at 12,000 yards
CVE Tangier firing to suppress enemy battery at 12,000 yards
DD Gansevoort fired at enemy troops
DD Frazier fired at enemy troops
DD Laffey fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

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Amphibious Assault at Tabiteuea (137,134)

TF 343 troops unloading over beach at Tabiteuea, 137,134

Allied ground losses:
328 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 54 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 106 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 27 (2 destroyed, 25 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled)

14 troops of a USMC 43 Rifle Squad accidentally lost during unload of 1st Marine Div /2
81mm M1 Mortar accidentally lost during unload of 22nd Marine Rgt
12 troops of a M1917 MMG Section lost from landing craft during unload of 33rd Infantry Div /1
20mm Mk4 Oerlikon lost overboard during unload of 1st Fleet Advn Base Force
15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 1st Fleet Advn Base Force /7
15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 33rd Infantry Div /5
15 Naval Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 1st Fleet Advn Base Force /8
15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 22nd Marine Rgt /5
15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 1st Marine Div /7

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Ground combat at Tabiteuea (137,134)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 76321 troops, 1329 guns, 957 vehicles, Assault Value = 2642

Defending force 35810 troops, 286 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 923

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 858

Japanese adjusted defense: 696

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1749 casualties reported
Squads: 27 destroyed, 145 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 68 disabled
Guns lost 24 (1 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
8601 casualties reported
Squads: 612 destroyed, 305 disabled
Non Combat: 206 destroyed, 132 disabled
Engineers: 202 destroyed, 45 disabled
Guns lost 168 (114 destroyed, 54 disabled)
Vehicles lost 282 (169 destroyed, 113 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
25th Infantry Division
34th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
1st Marine Div /8
3rd Marine Division
767th Tank Battalion
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
763rd Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
112th Cavalry Regiment
24th Infantry Division
22nd Marine Regiment
33rd Infantry Div /9
225th Field Artillery Battalion
55th Coastal Artillery Battalion
1st Fleet Advn Base Force
3/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion
1st Pioneer Battalion
1st US Naval Construction Battalion
46th US Naval Construction Battalion
1st AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
1/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion
42nd MAG
21st Base Group
249th Field Artillery Battalion
12th Marine Defense Battalion
15th Marine Defense Battalion
7th USN Naval Construction Regiment

Defending units:
7th Indpt SNLF Coy
46th Division
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
43rd Division
3rd Naval Pioneer Battalion
2nd JNAF AF Unit
12th Air Flotilla
5th Naval Construction Battalion
16th JNAF AF Unit

SL is ONLY 40k and he is way, way over!! I hope he learns how to conduct invasions real soon. <wink>

Notes:
D4Y4 Judy to 3/44

Screen shot - I've removed Judy & Jill from two of my Shokaku-kai CVs and added 2 x 45 plane George groups. Going fighter heavy as I've ordered my Judy & Jill to stand down. Plans are to move down to off Ocean Is. next turn, if still present, I'll order 2 x SC TF to Full Spd to hit his TFs at Tabiteuea. The turn after will be KB moving in provide LRCAP over a third SC TF formed from KBs screen.

The four Kongos with DDs are now two days north of Truk after finishing upgrades.

I have 6 CV and 3 CVL less than 10 days until upgrades completed at Yokohama. Once they join KB in month, I'll go after DS.

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43 Dec 24 & 25: The "Battle of Tabiteuea" and surround waters continues...

Subs:

CV:
24th - DS remains 1 NE of Tabiteuea. 3 SC TFs with KB are ordered in...2 to Tabby and one at DS

25th - DS and CVEs are retreating, but....

China:
Chungking - About 190 Helens daily followed by ground bb as IDs recover.

CenPac:
Tabiteuea - Action and more action.
24th -

quote:

Night Naval bombardment of Tabiteuea at 137,134 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K1 Emily: 26 damaged
N1K1-J George: 32 damaged
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed on ground
A6M3b Zero: 16 damaged
A6M3b Zero: 4 destroyed on ground

39 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Alabama, Shell hits 2
BB Massachusetts
BB Indiana
CA Rome
CA Wichita
CA Astoria
CA Salt Lake City
CA Northampton
CA Indianapolis
CL Mobile
CL Birmingham
CL Richmond
DD Clark
DD Daly
DD Cotten
DD Cony
DD Conway
DD Converse
DD Conner
DD Claxton
DD Chevalier
DD Chauncey
DD Charrette
DD Bush
DD Burns

Japanese ground losses:
219 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1
I hope they stay for just one more day as they have been doing this for two days and should be out of ammo.

quote:

Ground combat at Tabiteuea (137,134)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 64661 troops, 1240 guns, 820 vehicles, Assault Value = 1716

Defending force 32994 troops, 285 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 760

Allied adjusted assault: 493

Japanese adjusted defense: 614

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2881 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 119 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 26 disabled
Guns lost 58 (3 destroyed, 55 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
8828 casualties reported
Squads: 316 destroyed, 132 disabled
Non Combat: 132 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 114 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 141 (94 destroyed, 47 disabled)
Vehicles lost 113 (90 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Units destroyed 3
Overstacking gives you results like this!

25th- A nice night with 0% moonlight!!

quote:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Tabiteuea at 137,134, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Chokai
CLAA Tenryu
CLAA Tatsuta
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo
DD Asagiri
DD Sagiri
DD Yugiri
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
DE Gilmore, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DE Griswold, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
DE William C. Miller, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
DE Seid, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Triangulum, Shell hits 26, and is sunk
AK Ganymede, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
AK Bootes, Shell hits 25, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-463, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
LST-464, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-465, Shell hits 20, and is sunk
LST-466, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
LST-467, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-468, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-469, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-470, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-471, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
LST-472, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-476, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-477, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-478, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-479, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-480, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-481, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-482, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
LST-483, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
LST-484, Shell hits 5, and is sunk

Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 0% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 10,000 yards
LST-472 sunk by CA Chokai at 10,000 yards
DE William C. Miller sunk by CA Chokai at 10,000 yards
CA Chokai engages DE Griswold at 10,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages DE Seid at 10,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages AK Triangulum at 10,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages LST-483 at 10,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages DE Seid at 10,000 yards
LST-481 sunk by DD Sagiri at 10,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages LST-480 at 10,000 yards
DD Michishio engages DE Seid at 10,000 yards
DD Michishio engages LST-477 at 10,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-470 at 10,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-463 at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards
CA Maya engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages AK Ganymede at 7,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages AK Triangulum at 7,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-483 at 7,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-480 at 7,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards
DD Minegumo engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards
DE Seid sunk by DD Asashio at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CLAA Tenryu engages DE Griswold at 5,000 yards
CA Takao engages AK Triangulum at 5,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages LST-483 at 5,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages LST-484 at 5,000 yards
LST-480 sunk by DD Ushio at 5,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages AK Triangulum at 5,000 yards
LST-478 sunk by DD Asagiri at 5,000 yards
LST-477 sunk by DD Asashio at 5,000 yards
DD Michishio engages LST-483 at 5,000 yards
DD Asashio engages LST-470 at 5,000 yards
DD Michishio engages LST-464 at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CA Chokai engages DE Griswold at 3,000 yards
CA Takao engages DE Gilmore at 3,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards
DE Griswold sunk by CA Takao at 3,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages AK Triangulum at 3,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages AK Ganymede at 3,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages LST-479 at 3,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-463 at 3,000 yards
AK Ganymede sunk by DD Asagumo at 3,000 yards
DD Minegumo engages AK Triangulum at 3,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages LST-469 at 3,000 yards
DD Minegumo engages LST-468 at 3,000 yards
LST-470 sunk by DD Asashio at 3,000 yards
DD Minegumo engages LST-465 at 3,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages LST-464 at 3,000 yards
CA Chokai engages LST-463 at 3,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards
AK Triangulum sunk by CA Atago at 3,000 yards
LST-483 sunk by CLAA Tatsuta at 3,000 yards
CLAA Tenryu engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards
LST-469 sunk by DD Ushio at 3,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards
DD Oshio engages LST-465 at 3,000 yards
LST-464 sunk by DD Asagumo at 3,000 yards
LST-463 sunk by DD Yugiri at 3,000 yards
CA Maya engages DE Gilmore at 3,000 yards
Massive explosion on LST-466
CA Maya engages LST-466 at 3,000 yards
AK Bootes sunk by CA Atago at 3,000 yards
LST-476 sunk by CA Takao at 3,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages LST-466 at 3,000 yards
DD Ushio engages LST-465 at 3,000 yards
LST-479 sunk by DD Sagiri at 3,000 yards
LST-466 sunk by DD Yugiri at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
CA Takao engages DE Gilmore at 4,000 yards
CA Maya engages DE Gilmore at 4,000 yards
DD Michishio engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards
DE Gilmore sunk by CLAA Tenryu at 4,000 yards
LST-465 sunk by DD Asagiri at 4,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta collides with DD Yugiri at 137 , 134
LST-484 sunk by CA Chokai at 4,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages LST-471 at 4,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards
LST-467 sunk by DD Sagiri at 4,000 yards
DD Asashio engages LST-471 at 4,000 yards
DD Oshio engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards
LST-468 sunk by DD Asagumo at 4,000 yards
CA Chokai engages LST-482 at 4,000 yards
CA Maya engages LST-482 at 4,000 yards
LST-482 sunk by CA Takao at 4,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-471 at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages LST-471 at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages LST-471 at 6,000 yards
CA Chokai engages LST-471 at 6,000 yards
LST-471 sunk by CA Chokai at 6,000 yards
LST-471 sunk by CA Chokai at 6,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk

BANZAI!! BANZAI!!...

quote:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Tabiteuea at 137,133, Range 10,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 26 destroyed
SBD-5 Dauntless: 21 destroyed
F4F-7 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
FM-1 Wildcat: 11 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro, Shell hits 2
CA Nachi, Shell hits 8, on fire
CA Ashigara
CA Seiki
CA Chishima, Shell hits 2
CA Miyako, Shell hits 1
CA Yoshino, Shell hits 1
DD Takanami
DD Naganami
DD Suzunami
DD Fujinami
DD Yugure
DD Ariake
DD Kayobuki, Shell hits 1
DD Mazabuki, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage [SUNK]

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
CV Bunker Hill
CV Intrepid
CV Crown Point
CVL Princeton
CVL Monterey
CVL Varennes, Shell hits 1
CVL Chateau Thierry, Shell hits 2
CVL Jacksonville
CA Baltimore
CLAA Atlanta, Shell hits 1
CLAA Juneau, Shell hits 2, on fire
CLAA San Diego, Shell hits 1
CLAA Oakland
CL Denver, Shell hits 6, on fire
CL Santa Fe, Shell hits 1
DD Fletcher
DD Abbot
DD Ammen
DD Aulick, Shell hits 1
DD Charles Ausburne
DD Boyd
DD Bradford
DD Braine
DD Brownson, Shell hits 1

Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 0% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 15,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 10,000 yards
Kiyota, Takahiko* crosses the 'T'
CA Yoshino engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Miyako engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Chishima engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Seiki engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Yoshino engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 10,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CVL Varennes at 10,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CVL Monterey at 10,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
DD Kayobuki engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CL Santa Fe at 10,000 yards
CL Denver engages CA Nachi at 10,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CLAA Oakland at 10,000 yards
CLAA San Diego engages CA Nachi at 10,000 yards
DD Takanami engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CA Yoshino engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards
CA Chishima engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 7,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CVL Varennes at 7,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CA Baltimore at 7,000 yards
CL Santa Fe engages CA Nachi at 7,000 yards
CL Denver engages CA Nachi at 7,000 yards
DD Fujinami engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CLAA San Diego at 7,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CLAA Juneau at 7,000 yards
DD Takanami engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards
DD Brownson engages DD Takanami at 7,000 yards
DD Takanami engages DD Charles Ausburne at 7,000 yards
DD Fletcher engages DD Mazabuki at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DD Bradford collides with CL Denver at 137 , 133
CA Yoshino engages CL Santa Fe at 5,000 yards
CA Miyako engages CV Lexington at 5,000 yards
Ammo storage explosion on CV Lexington
CA Chishima engages CV Lexington at 5,000 yards
CV Lexington sunk by CA Seiki at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CVL Varennes at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CVL Monterey at 5,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages DD Brownson at 5,000 yards
CA Baltimore engages CA Nachi at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CL Santa Fe at 5,000 yards
DD Brownson engages DD Yugure at 5,000 yards
DD Brownson engages DD Fujinami at 5,000 yards
DD Suzunami engages DD Fletcher at 5,000 yards
DD Naganami engages DD Brownson at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CLAA Atlanta at 5,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages DD Braine at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CA Ashigara collides with DD Mazabuki at 137 , 133
CV Crown Point collides with CLAA San Diego at 137 , 133
CA Yoshino engages CLAA San Diego at 4,000 yards
CA Miyako engages CLAA San Diego at 4,000 yards
CA Chishima engages CV Bunker Hill at 4,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 4,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CL Denver at 4,000 yards
CLAA Oakland engages CA Haguro at 4,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CVL Princeton at 4,000 yards
DD Brownson engages DD Mazabuki at 4,000 yards
DD Kayobuki engages DD Fletcher at 4,000 yards
CA Seiki engages CL Denver at 4,000 yards
CLAA Oakland engages DD Yugure at 4,000 yards
DD Fujinami engages DD Brownson at 4,000 yards
CLAA Juneau engages CA Haguro at 4,000 yards
DD Naganami engages DD Brownson at 4,000 yards
DD Takanami engages DD Brownson at 4,000 yards
DD Kayobuki engages DD Aulick at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Suzunami engages CV Crown Point at 7,000 yards
CA Miyako engages CL Denver at 7,000 yards
CA Chishima engages CLAA Atlanta at 7,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages CVL Jacksonville at 7,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Santa Fe at 7,000 yards
DD Kayobuki engages CVL Varennes at 7,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CLAA Oakland at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CA Baltimore at 7,000 yards
DD Kayobuki engages DD Charles Ausburne at 7,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Denver at 7,000 yards
DD Charles Ausburne engages DD Yugure at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CLAA San Diego at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CLAA Juneau at 7,000 yards
DD Naganami engages DD Charles Ausburne at 7,000 yards
DD Takanami engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages DD Braine at 7,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages DD Aulick at 7,000 yards
DD Abbot engages DD Naganami at 7,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

India Ocean:
Diego Garcia is invaded on 25th and falls.

quote:

Ground combat at Diego Garcia (11,62)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 17135 troops, 350 guns, 814 vehicles, Assault Value = 729

Defending force 5312 troops, 95 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 161

Allied adjusted assault: 251

Japanese adjusted defense: 8

Allied assault odds: 31 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Diego Garcia !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1243 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 115 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 56 (18 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Assaulting units:
13th Armoured Div /28
81st (West African) Div /10
18th Marine Defense Battalion
19th USN Naval Construction Regiment

Defending units:
2nd Maizuru Assault Division

Notes:
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy to 3/44

In hindsight, my SC TF with 3 fast BBs should have gone to his CV TF, rather than Tabiteuea and end up hitting a mine.

KB will head east to see if I can get lucky while my 3 x SC TF head back to port

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 3/6/2018 1:35:38 AM

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Brian is in the process of surrendering to the Japanese Empire. Banzai!!

I've opened a new thread in "Opponents Wanted" to find an Allied replacement player.

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Brian is in the process of surrendering to the Japanese Empire. Banzai!!

I've opened a new thread in "Opponents Wanted" to find an Allied replacement player.

Did you find someone to continue?

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I've gotten one PM and three others posting some interest. No one has contacted Brian yet for files and PW as I got an email from him last night.

I really want a chance to sink CVB Midway.

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I've gotten one PM and three others posting some interest. No one has contacted Brian yet for files and PW as I got an email from him last night.

I really want a chance to sink CVB Midway.

You have to get past hundreds of B-29s that want to ruin your econ before you get to see Midway!! First things first.

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Way to kill my 'little fantasy' Erik!

Months ago I was talking with John about BTS and BTSL and future changes. At that time a book I was reading had the main character in Argentina and somebody on this board I think mentioned a German BB (I think it was a series from 60s now on YouTube). So, I got John to research if Japan had any plans for pocket-BB. There were plans for a 12" gun, but no pocket. So, in new BTS version Japan has the Niitaka Class CAs come with 6 x 12" guns while the Allies now get two more Alaska BCs (Puerto Rico and Hawaii). This will be in BTS version, not BTSL.

Hopefully, this game continues so both sides get to play with the late war toys. New changes to BTS may have the same effect for those playing new games. My goal is simple....complete a game (into 45 or 46) with Japan and then as Allies. If this game doesn't continue, I'll be looking for a new game BTS or BTSL to work on that goal.

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Well done. I bet you have problems finding a replacement, as most players want a strong position. My guess is there is much that needs attention here, especially given the hectic pace you guys have played at.

Wouldn't bother me though, I like em ugly.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 3/16/2018 7:00:34 AM

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I may have found a replacement Allied player in AcePylut (Darryn). I think he has everything he needs including the Dec 1st turn. Fingers crossed.

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 3/19/2018 9:35:22 PM

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RE: "It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J)... - 3/20/2018 11:44:27 AM

ny59giants

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Sent PM to both his home email addresses last night. Please stand by.

Meanwhile, I'm playing Allies vs AI (Long Road to Tokyo) and at end of Dec 41. AI is planning to invade Hiva Oa. AI scripts are from Andy Mac, so he must be channeling his inner John 3rd.

I've already lost Hilo, Kona, Midway, Johnson, Christmas Island, Coal Harbour, and Noumea.

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