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RE: Name these Pilots!!! - 1/6/2005 2:00:59 AM

testarossa

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There is no doubt that Russians had fine pilots (after they survived first missions), Kozhedub had 67 confirmed kills per 120 combat missions. Now about those who didn�t survive the �combat� training.

Losses of Russian air force pilots (officers only) during WW2 (pilots KIA):

Fighters 11,874
Close support 7837
Bombers 6613
Recon 587
Aux 689
Total 27600

These are for the officer corp pilots losses only, there is no data for sergeants and crew losses). Actual number of aircraft lost is higher as some sources claim around 74,000 (based on the production numbers).

Considering the �low� intensity of the air war at the east, as you claim, doesn�t it look like something is wrong with the pilots� training?

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RE: Name these Pilots!!! - 1/6/2005 8:00:49 AM

m10bob

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ORIGINAL: pertsajakilu

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ORIGINAL: Tanaka

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ORIGINAL: Marc

middle

correct!!!

and the last guy???

From Saburo Sakais Samurai:
Top row from left:
Takatsuka, Sasai and Sakai
On their knees:
Ota and Nishizawara

From Finnish edition:

Werner S�destr�m osakeyhti�n kirjapainossa 1958

Pertsajakilu

PS. It's first quality condition, found it in antiqvarium. Price was 13�.
Hopefully I will find Pierre Clostermans Grand Circus.

If you can find the American Ballentine books version of Pierre Closterman's book,it was called "The Big Show"..I had a copy from the mid 50's..

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RE: Name these Pilots!!! - 1/6/2005 8:15:07 AM

Tanaka

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quote:

ORIGINAL: m10bob

quote:

ORIGINAL: pertsajakilu

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: Marc

middle

correct!!!

and the last guy???

From Saburo Sakais Samurai:
Top row from left:
Takatsuka, Sasai and Sakai
On their knees:
Ota and Nishizawara

From Finnish edition:

Werner S�destr�m osakeyhti�n kirjapainossa 1958

Pertsajakilu

PS. It's first quality condition, found it in antiqvarium. Price was 13�.
Hopefully I will find Pierre Clostermans Grand Circus.

If you can find the American Ballentine books version of Pierre Closterman's book,it was called "The Big Show"..I had a copy from the mid 50's..

um what are u guys talking about here??? whats the book about???

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RE: Name these Pilots!!! - 1/6/2005 4:13:51 PM

m10bob

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: m10bob

quote:

ORIGINAL: pertsajakilu

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: Marc

middle

correct!!!

and the last guy???

From Saburo Sakais Samurai:
Top row from left:
Takatsuka, Sasai and Sakai
On their knees:
Ota and Nishizawara

From Finnish edition:

Werner S�destr�m osakeyhti�n kirjapainossa 1958

Pertsajakilu

PS. It's first quality condition, found it in antiqvarium. Price was 13�.
Hopefully I will find Pierre Clostermans Grand Circus.

If you can find the American Ballentine books version of Pierre Closterman's book,it was called "The Big Show"..I had a copy from the mid 50's..

um what are u guys talking about here??? whats the book about???

Completely off topic Tanaka,but Pierre Clostermann was the highest scoring French ace of WW2,joined the RAF after France fell and later wrote a book about those exploits.Very informative..
Ended the war flyng a Hawker Tempest,nearly as big as a P-47 and as agile as a Spitfire..
BTW,I have read over the years of the European version of the book being called other than what it was called in the States,("The Big Show")..

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RE: Name these Pilots!!! - 1/6/2005 5:03:26 PM

Hornblower

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my 2 cents.. As we all know, the USN/USMC and to a slightly lesser degree the USAAF, rotated units in and out of combat. So, that lessened their times over the front lines. Also, there was a constant movement of some top pilots from their units to the home front to pass on the lessons from the front line- which to a large degree is the reason why the pilot experience levels for the �rookies� increase as the war progresses, IMHO. The IJN/IJA kept there pilots on the front line till shot down, rotated out with sickness, or were planeless and bye-passed by the allies island hopping campaign.

I�m of the opinion that if the Americans didn�t rotate there units, not only would the VMF-214�s and VF-17�s of the world have a higher kill total, but also more of there aces would have possibly not survived the war. And keep in mind you can only shoot down planes IF the enemy still has planes/pilots to put up. Eric B�s Fire in the Sky is a good source.

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