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RE: convoy intercepted - 6/19/2006 4:38:25 PM   
Arstavidios

 

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Status: offline 		Sunk airgroups come back 2 or 3 months later I think.There's also transit time.
Good catch.

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RE: convoy intercepted - 6/19/2006 5:44:45 PM   
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RE: convoy intercepted - 6/19/2006 6:16:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		ah well this is still 3 months during which he cannot mass P38s for escort duties.. just imagine the raids you manage to stop with double the amount of P38s.... So it gives you more time against his bombers... always good..

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RE: convoy intercepted - 6/19/2006 7:27:56 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		I would be a little carefull Sneer about cutting off Australia from the West Coast to much as it leads to nasty behavious by the Allied player.

In one of my PBEM's it has happened to me when I lost US CV's early and my opponents raided to map edges numerous times despite my best efforts to protect my convoys.

I finally got sick of it my reaction was Sod it I cannot be bothered losing convoys with no way of protecting from the full KB I am going to wait mass a huge force at Pearl wait for mid/late 44 and invade way behind the lines with overwhelming force its boring but it is effective

If you close down his LOC to much you may find no Solomons or NG or CENTPAC offensive but instead a huge 4 or 5 Corps 20+ Divisional assault covered by 50+ Carriers on somewhere like Formosa/Okinawa/Iwo/Home Islands in late 44 guarded by an unstoppable deathstar.

If you leave him no other option........

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RE: convoy intercepted - 6/19/2006 7:46:52 PM   
veji1

 

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RE: convoy intercepted - 6/19/2006 9:29:54 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		1st . i have never been closer than 20 hexes from south edge of map - it is my enemy who uses border moving
2nd. it is difficult to go so far without replenishment TF close and such TF is vulnerable and slow and remember that i need to go fast to make use of bad weather and it is fuel consuming - it is not possible to close LOC with KB in long term
3rd. it was 1/3 of my carrier force so if it was protected it would be difficult  - currently allies have similar carrier force - but it is again hidden - enemy convoys are always unprotected and uncovered - sth not possible IRL - it was allies CV duty to cover major shipment
4th.  i doubt he can directly go as far as inner isles chain without giving any sign -- it is still limited by logistics
BTW it is a place of my reserve force so it is not unguarded and even now it is 7+ fortified
if enemy want to land far behind he is welcomed - guadalcanal type battle so late is always good



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The Russian question - 6/20/2006 9:35:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Seeing as this game will most likely drag on into '46, I wonder if Sneer has taken into account the Rooshan Bear? A detailed look at the boarder shows that there is only the minimum of troops stationed there. When I close my eyes I have pictures of T-34s swarming across the Manchukou boarder with the sky black with Rooshan aircraft.

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RE: The Russian question - 6/20/2006 9:52:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		i know - 1/3 of china army will be devoted to reinforcing this region
but if only i reach 45 in such a good shape it will be enough rewarding game

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RE: The Russian question - 6/20/2006 10:00:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		This could be interesting.....the USSR might beat the US to Japan

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RE: The Russian question - 6/20/2006 10:08:08 AM   
Sneer


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and yes that would be very interesting

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RE: The Russian question - 6/20/2006 10:12:20 AM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		but there is no russian navy - no transports - so no russian unit will ever enter Home islands

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for stat-lovers - 6/20/2006 10:34:18 AM   
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RE: for stat-lovers - 6/20/2006 10:35:17 AM   
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RE: The Russian question - 6/20/2006 10:39:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sneer

but there is no russian navy - no transports - so no russian unit will ever enter Home islands


Just because you can't see a rooshan navy does not mmean that there is not one. Lend-Lease is a wonderful thing !


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RE: The Russian question - 6/20/2006 10:42:29 AM   
Sneer


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Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 11:04:08 AM   
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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 11:20:53 AM   
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interesting thing
for the 1st time p-38 were spotted at chungking - 2 destroyed today on ground



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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 11:51:23 AM   
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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 11:57:07 AM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/04/43

Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
 
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 20
Ki-21 Sally x 117
Ki-49 Helen x 387
Ki-15 Babs x 7
 
Allied aircraft
no flights
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
 
 
Allied ground losses:
279 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
 
Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 416


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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 12:02:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sneer, how is the Chungking thing going ?

Do you think you'll manage to take it and sweep China for good ?

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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 12:04:37 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		sooner or later yes
certainly before russia will enter war



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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 12:07:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually I had 20+ P-38s there sometime ago trying to catch you unescorted bombers. The two that were left on the ground were damaged because of the poor state of the runways...........snapped their landing gear.




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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 12:08:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		So if 1/3 China Army goes to Kwantung, 1/3 goes to India, 1/3 stays to garrison the place and 1/3 is bought out for use in the Pac right ?    ;)

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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 12:10:06 PM   
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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 12:13:42 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		i don't need to bought so many unit for PAC - if i can switch southern army from india it will be enough + there will be few new divisions in china soon - good to guard

sad news I 154 sunk today - another convoy heads to darwin ( currently east of broome)


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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 12:27:18 PM   
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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 12:34:53 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		tough luck
truth is that my new PC type works really good
2 subs scored and I think 1 heavily damaged by 1 hunter killer group and allied subs are no more present on my internal LOC
i have 3 at this moment and next 3 will go within 2 months - meanwhile Raverdave gets dezens of good ships

but it works even stronger for allied player

i have little problem with naval production at the moment but expect to have everything under control within next 3-4 months when I get my new carrier division ready
good news
Hiyo is almost finished in shipyard
Akagi well within 30's so ap 3 next months and it will be in service again
Kongo - funny thing - when i spotted enemy lost conwoy close to gilberts 2 weeks ago Kongo escort TF was 60 miles from these merchants but with 6knots and 80 sys there was no fun to risk her
Musashi repairs are going smoothly - ship should be back in service this year


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RE: convoy intercepted - 6/20/2006 5:15:21 PM   
Sneer


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looks like "convoy intercepted" is my sign for readers
small naval engagement north of wyndham - I attempted to intercept convoy with light forces
neither side gained surprise
yubari + tama + nagara + 4 dd intercepted 5 allied DD
shirakumo(mag explosion) + nepal( 2 long lances) sunk
hamakaze heavily damaged ( will be lost I feel)- yubari ate torp but in good shape
once again enemy intercpeted smoothly but this time luck was not with me
my cruisers barely took part in this battle (Nagara and Yubari did not shoot) and in DDvsDD fight allied were better
convoy was not seen
so both tactical and strategic victory to allied

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/10/43

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Night Time Surface Combat at 28,83

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
CL Tama, Shell hits 1
CL Yubari
DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Shinonome, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Shirakumo, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hasu

Allied Ships
DD Warramunga
DD Van Galen
DD Foxhound
DD Griffin
DD Nepal, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat at 28,83

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
CL Tama
CL Yubari, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shinonome, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Shirakumo, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
DD Hasu

Allied Ships
DD Warramunga, Shell hits 3
DD Van Galen
DD Foxhound
DD Griffin




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RE: convoy intercepted - 6/20/2006 5:24:28 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		little use of old Jap CLs
low firepower
low ROF
weak torps  and of old type
only agano is closer to night rider type
too weak for normal combat
without AAA weapons
only DD leaders and fast transport platform

i would be happy to see few new pre conversion kumano type CLs


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RE: Future Allied attack paths. - 6/20/2006 7:40:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: veji1

So if 1/3 China Army goes to Kwantung, 1/3 goes to India, 1/3 stays to garrison the place and 1/3 is bought out for use in the Pac right ?    ;)


That's 4/3. *Scratches head*

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