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RE: P-38 - 7/11/2006 9:43:48 AM   
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RE: P-38 - 7/11/2006 9:48:04 AM   
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especially i played football in full sun yesterday and it is quite difficult

For australians central europe is a place where white bears walk :-)


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RE: P-38 - 7/11/2006 10:31:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ha ! 32-34 C is perfect weather.......it's when it starts getting to 43-45 that it gets "difficult". You are too soft.

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RE: P-38 - 7/11/2006 10:43:37 AM   
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(un)expected allied offensive will start at .... - 7/12/2006 2:37:34 PM   
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30+ units spotted by 2-day recon from glens- few months of heavy activity of transport convoys south of Perth
numerous radio transmisions in area
so timor/java area will be under fire - maybe even soon


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RE: (un)expected allied offensive will start at .... - 7/12/2006 3:51:14 PM   
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RE: (un)expected allied offensive will start at .... - 7/13/2006 6:21:04 AM   
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RE: P-38 - 7/13/2006 12:28:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		chungking assault result in a few hours
here troops used and their supply status




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RE: P-38 - 7/13/2006 1:26:46 PM   
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RE: P-38 - 7/13/2006 3:55:33 PM   
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RE: P-38 - 7/13/2006 3:58:01 PM   
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RE: P-38 - 7/13/2006 3:59:49 PM   
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i waiting for my turn
all depends how much my attacking troops will be penalized



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RE: P-38 - 7/13/2006 5:14:09 PM   
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RE: P-38 - 7/13/2006 5:21:20 PM   
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RE: P-38 - 7/13/2006 5:22:49 PM   
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i need to use some unnatural powers to keep this game in 1948 still going


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RE: P-38 - 7/14/2006 2:58:06 AM   
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chungking magic - 7/14/2006 10:57:55 AM   
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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 758431 troops, 7452 guns, 1166 vehicles, Assault Value = 14986

Defending force 220786 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7061

Japanese max assault: 15042 - adjusted assault: 4563

Allied max defense: 6185 - adjusted defense: 5621

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
58752 casualties reported
Guns lost 779
Vehicles lost 51

Allied ground losses:
5753 casualties reported




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RE: chungking magic - 7/14/2006 10:59:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		i checked supply status - supply was not a problem  -
any smart ideas ?
developers/moderators ?
why?
will it be offensive to ask ?


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RE: chungking magic - 7/14/2006 11:01:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sneer



Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 758431 troops, 7452 guns, 1166 vehicles, Assault Value = 14986

Defending force 220786 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7061

Japanese max assault: 15042 - adjusted assault: 4563

Allied max defense: 6185 - adjusted defense: 5621

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
58752 casualties reported
Guns lost 779
Vehicles lost 51

Allied ground losses:
5753 casualties reported




Interesting.........I wonder why your assualt vallues were so downgraded....less than a third........any Ideas why......

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RE: chungking magic - 7/14/2006 11:04:28 AM   
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RE: chungking magic - 7/14/2006 12:55:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sneer

i checked supply status - supply was not a problem  -
any smart ideas ?
developers/moderators ?
why?
will it be offensive to ask ?



Can you show a screen shot of the engineering units that you have there? What is happening to them "before and after"? Have you checked their leaders?

BTW - have you been certain to check that none of your LCU leaders have become "WOs" or some non-LCU leader? You may also want to look at the Game's ratings for the leaders. If you have a lot of leaders who are rated as "Best as Rear Area Commander" you should change them leaders rated as "Best Suited for Assualt Units".

Good luck -

Dave Baranyi

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RE: chungking magic - 7/14/2006 1:06:51 PM   
pauk


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sneer

Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 758431 troops, 7452 guns, 1166 vehicles, Assault Value = 14986

Defending force 220786 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7061

Japanese max assault: 15042 - adjusted assault: 4563

Allied max defense: 6185 - adjusted defense: 5621

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
58752 casualties reported
Guns lost 779
Vehicles lost 51

Allied ground losses:
5753 casualties reported


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ORIGINAL: Sneer

i'm sorry but only short notice
I'm too pissed to post anything more
ground combat makes me #%@&@$#$ !!!!!
I did everything ok - even asked Mogami for consultation - sent him my savegame
redeployed HQs
rested troops at changsha
when i noticed all is ready i pull trigger to see:


Ground combat at Chungking
 
Japanese Deliberate attack
 
Attacking force 766715 troops, 8173 guns, 1183 vehicles, Assault Value = 15306
 
Defending force 223671 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7002
 
Japanese max assault: 15130 - adjusted assault: 4975
 
Allied max defense: 6117 - adjusted defense: 5325
 
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)
 
 
Japanese ground losses:
51461 casualties reported
Guns lost 1159
Vehicles lost 35
 
Allied ground losses:
4464 casualties reported



So, enemy AV is + 330 and your is down by 412 from your last attack...

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RE: chungking magic - 7/14/2006 1:20:23 PM   
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chinase troops grow in numbers / but not unit numbers/- i don't see supply - air bombardment rarely scores supply hit and from my experiance it is corellated with its abundance - somehow they got reinforcements
about my AV - i could rest 2-3 more days - same result - i expected major improvment as supply was suspected to be problem earlier
AdavidB
eng units were more or less fine  - 30 AV avg each and max engineers squads
there is no random leader - all was checked earlier

there are moments i feel weird - i really hate game which i devote so many hours per day
i think Nemo is specialist so could write sth about it

for Matrix it is not a problem - no reaction from them / i doubt if even they understand this mechanism and it is more convinient not to check what can be  a very deep hole
Mogami goes off topic each time you start disscussion and many other players as well
As far as i know Raverdave doesn't understand chungking combat too

too many resources devoted to this operation just to abandon it
ground combat in china basicly screwed my game in asia





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RE: chungking magic - 7/14/2006 6:12:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Look at the unmodified Assault Value it went from 7002 to 7061. So yes the Chinese are getting stronger.

Ignore the modified Assault Values there are too many variables to measure strength by looking at the modified Assault Value for any one or two battles.

My guess is that you killed a unit and it returned to Chungking at 1/3 strength.

Are all of the Chinese units in Chungking?

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RE: P-38 - 7/14/2006 6:18:26 PM   
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in chungking number of units is stable at 54



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RE: P-38 - 7/14/2006 6:23:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Really stupid question but you have pushed Raver back far enough that he cannot air drop supplies from B24's into Chungking ?

Allied max AV has risen while troop numbers have dropped 223k & 6117 v 220k and 6187 looks like those respawn 35xp chinese corps are gaining XP.....you kill a few but the ones that are left get better. Survival of the fittest 

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RE: P-38 - 7/14/2006 6:28:53 PM   
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Really stupid question but you have pushed Raver back far enough that he cannot air drop supplies from B24's into Chungking ?

Allied max AV has risen while troop numbers have dropped 223k & 6117 v 220k and 6187 looks like those respawn 35xp chinese corps are gaining XP.....you kill a few but the ones that are left get better. Survival of the fittest 


Thats true too ---troop numbers are dropping...

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RE: P-38 - 7/14/2006 8:15:23 PM   
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RE: P-38 - 7/17/2006 12:52:55 PM   
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RN bombardment group in daylight at andamans
Warspite 5 torps / i hope it will sink
DD Rocket 2 torps /sunk
6 bettys lost to flak
looks like a gift to japan
but i can't remember occasion

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RE: P-38 - 7/17/2006 1:03:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		About Chungking, Have you been bombarding him on a daily basis ?

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