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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 8/9/2013 6:46:14 AM   
JocMeister

 

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ORIGINAL: koniu
- Musashi arrive on 1 December 1942. So 359 days of production
- Each day require 233 naval points
- Every naval point cost 3 HI points

So 359x233x3=250941 HI points to produce Musashi

Each Single engine planes cost 36 HI (18 for engine and 18 for airframe)

250941/36= 6970,58 1E planes


7000 planes?! ONE BB or 7000 planes?! Thats a no brainer?

One thing to consider though is the added HI cost of 7000 extra pilots to be trained. How much is that?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 8/9/2013 9:26:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JocMeister


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ORIGINAL: obvert


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Sorry but I can´t remember. What was the HR?

Sorry. It's 2nd best maneuver band for sweepers only. So CAP can go to max if it wants to do so. The P-40 has been markedly better in this game than in ours, Jocke.


Thats an interesting one! Strongly favours the defender... I think that will benefit you in the end! What are your impressions so far?


Well it seems to even things out in general. No Tojo dominance, and maybe later I'll not have quite such one sided affairs with the Corsair and Spit VIII. The P-47 still has a higher ceiling than anything I can fly, so it might not matter as much against that beast.

Lately it's been more about how many planes can either of us get into a specific battle. More has been winning, regardless of type or altitude. He has gotten 120+ cooperating P-40 sweeps which do very well even at 20k.

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"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 8/9/2013 3:10:37 PM   
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One of the most interesting periods of the game initiated with the air battles of early October and the 18th might have been the most crucial day of this part of the conflict. The Allies throw everything at Magwe again, plus a surprise.

BURMA: On the 18th the entire Allied strike force down to 3 Wirraways bombed our 146th regiment and base force at Magwe. They were one day from level 5 forts when the field was closed a few days before. This became important later as the highly disrupted and partial strength troops were shocked by two Chindit para units landing at the base!

An incredibly bold move, and it almost worked. On the 19th I decided to use the kitchen sink. I flew in the IJN from Victoria Point and brought all Tojo and Oscar units to bear on the Magwe hex, plus called in ground strikes from several 2E units within close range. This was an intense day of air battles and the shear numbers of Japanese planes proved too much for the Allies. Either his sweeps didn't fly for the most part or he tried to put all fighters from Cox's on LR CAP. Trouble is that's 6 hexes, and the P-40Es didn't show up at all on the day, so I'm guessing he tried to use them to CAP at full range. Maybe?

Range is not a problem for the IJN units, so they were flying from all over the place and all made it in for most of the battles that day. The Allied bomber force had major losses, but not as many as I'd hoped from the ridiculous numbers of fighters in the air. Still, about 1/4 of them didn't make it back, so that' not too bad. The 2Es suffered the worst as I only have one 4E-killer Nick group in the area at this point. I also had a ton of Tojo up at 31k expecting massed sweeps, so they probably didn't get to the bombers at 6k.

After the day's air battles my own paras flew in and the Chindits were crushed when they tried another shock later. The poor 146th is down to 17 AV and is 85% disabled, but the light tanks and arty probably played a big part in these battles and kept the base secure. Now for some serious rest, as it's moving back.

I softened up the Chindits for a few days before finally surrounding and wiping them out on the 22nd. The Allies only flew exploratory missions the next few days, including three Wirraways that made an ace for me and P-38s that were roughed up by my still strong CAP. I've begun rotating units out as they've been on LR CAP for a few days and are fatigued. I just bought a ton of base forces, an air HQ, about ten more AA units and some engineers that will all head to the area. If Burma is to be the focal point I need more resources here to get planes into the air and AA to protect troops in the clear.

SUBS: Very little action lately. A few air ASW notes starting to pop up as crews get trained up.

CHINA: I'm bombarding what is now a massive stack of 4200 AV blocking my 3800 AV on the yellow road near Chikhiang. Once my Southern flank move has initiated I'll pull out many of these troops and swing them around to support that move and protect Tuyun.

PACIFIC: Nothing moving.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR October 18, 42
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Morning Air attack on 146th Infantry Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 13
B-17E Fortress x 32
B-24D Liberator x 8
B-26B Marauder x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
248 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 146th Infantry Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 27
Hudson I x 11
B-24D Liberator x 11
B-25C Mitchell x 30


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
234 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 23rd JAAF AF Bn , at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 11
Hudson IIIa x 6
Hudson III (LR) x 9
B-17E Fortress x 7
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-25C Mitchell x 14
B-26 Marauder x 9


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
200 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 76,51 (near Tuyun)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31481 troops, 438 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 3884

Defending force 134827 troops, 707 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4276

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
13th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Tank/C Division
20th Recon Regiment
35th Division
2nd Tank/B Division
27th Division
3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Tank/B Division
66th Infantry Regiment
41st Division
1st Tank/A Division
17th Tank Regiment
26th Recon Regiment
36th Division
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
32nd Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
56th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank/A Division
1st Tank/C Division
12th Army
1st Army
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
13th Army
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
46th Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
16th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
1st Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
13th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
9th Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
2nd Group Army


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Ground combat at Magwe (57,47)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 755 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Defending force 2807 troops, 42 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 38

Allied adjusted assault: 37

Japanese adjusted defense: 22

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
267 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
111th Chindit Bde /1
77th Chindit Bde /1

Defending units:
146th Infantry Regiment
23rd JAAF AF Bn

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOROctober 20, 42
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Morning Air attack on 77th Chindit Brigade, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 94
A6M3a Zero x 34
G4M1 Betty x 44
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 131
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 18



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 9
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-40K Warhawk x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 3 destroyed
Hurricane XIIb: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
211 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
22 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.14 Sqn RCAF with Hurricane XIIb (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 21000
Raid is overhead
No.135 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
51st FG/26th FS with P-40K Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 19000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 111th Chindit Brigade, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 67
A6M3a Zero x 10
G4M1 Betty x 17
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 53



Allied aircraft
Hurricane XIIb x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane XIIb: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 111th Chindit Brigade, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 90
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 22
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 94
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 18



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 77th Chindit Bde /1 ...
Also attacking 111th Chindit Bde /1 ...

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Morning Air attack on 41st Infantry Regiment, at 64,42 (Myitkyina)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 13
SB-III x 13


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 7th RTA Division, at 58,47 (Meiktila)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 39



Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 29
Hudson I x 11
B-25C Mitchell x 15


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 7 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
13 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
7 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (39 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(39 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
39 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on 146th Infantry Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 107
A6M3a Zero x 17
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 29
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 187
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14



Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3
Hudson IIIa x 18
Wellington Ic x 15
Hudson III (LR) x 12
B-17E Fortress x 10
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 20
B-26 Marauder x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson IIIa: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wellington Ic: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
Hudson III (LR): 2 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 146th Infantry Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 92
A6M3a Zero x 17
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 17
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 176
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14



Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 11
B-17E Fortress x 21
B-24D Liberator x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 8 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed, 16 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 7th RTA Division, at 58,47 (Meiktila)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13



Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-18A Bolo: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 289 minutes

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Morning Air attack on 7th RTA Division, at 58,47 (Meiktila)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3



Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
B-24D Liberator x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 16


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 146th Infantry Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 65
A6M3a Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 109
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14



Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 27


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 146th Infantry Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
A6M3a Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 96
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14



Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 146th Infantry Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38
A6M3a Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 9
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 90
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14


Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 9


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-18A Bolo: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Magwe (57,47)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1171 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 59

Defending force 3248 troops, 47 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 70

Allied adjusted assault: 2

Japanese adjusted defense: 47

Allied assault odds: 1 to 23 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
255 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Assaulting units:
111th Chindit Bde /1
77th Chindit Bde /1

Defending units:
146th Infantry Regiment
1st Raiding Rgt /1
2nd Raiding Rgt /1
23rd JAAF AF Bn

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR October 20, 42
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Night Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 77th Chindit Brigade, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 61
A6M3a Zero x 17
G4M1 Betty x 44
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 37
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 61



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 77th Chindit Brigade, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 85
A6M3a Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 8
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 37
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 73


No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 77th Chindit Brigade, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
A6M3a Zero x 8
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 37
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 51

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Allied Unit(s) surrounded at Magwe

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR October 21, 42
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Morning Air attack on 146th Infantry Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 70
A6M3a Zero x 7
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 25
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 47
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5



Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 36
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38E Lightning: 4 destroyed

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR October 22, 42
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Morning Air attack on 111th Chindit Brigade, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
A6M3a Zero x 22
G4M1 Betty x 35
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 35



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (3 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
29 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Magwe (57,47)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 893 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 97

Defending force 187 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 36

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 36 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:


Allied ground losses:
77 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Assaulting units:
146th Infantry Regiment
1st Raiding Regiment
2nd Raiding Regiment
23rd JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
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A pretty good day in the air for the Japanese side. I only lost 12 pilots on the day with another 10 wounded. I would bet the Allies are out a few more than that. When will he run out of the Bolos and Hudsons and other crap that's filling out units now, and what is he using to train pilots?
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Here is he map of Burma. Not much to show as there are no ground actions currently. I recon the jungle hexes periodically to make sure no surprises are coming through.

I feel like the ground war here will be a sideshow to something else. Torsten has CV dominance, and once he decides to do so he could aim to land anywhere on the urmese, Thai, Malayan or Sumatran coastlines. I've placed stung air nodes accordingly, I've been sending garrisons madly to any and even potential landing spot, and I'm training all pilots in low naval skill. All of them. It improves the defense rating and brings experience up, so why not right now while there is a lull. Works for kamis later too.

One thing that support this hypothesis of an invasion from the IO in the near future is some valuable sigint recon from Cochin recently. There are reported to be 146 ships in port and many listed were AP. He lost a lot of small xAP recently, so he would have to bring in lots of good AP to do something here. Looks like he has.

The entire IJN is at either Singapore or Soerabaja. Shokaku is out for another 3-4 months repairing at Singers. Navy will be used as a follow-up to the air force however, and I've got plans for the remaining CVs to be used as fighter heavy platforms with limited striking power to protect and bring the rest of the IJN into range if the initial defensive air-strikes can cripple the invasion and naval forces of any action here.

If he's planning a massive invasion of the Kuriles in the next week before winter, well, then I'm screwed. At least then I'd get early kamis and some new troops.




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Here is a ook at my upcoming attempt to force a breakthrough. After getting stopped on the yellow road near Chikhiang my reserve and some of the northern army are shifting around, hopefully stealthfully, to Tuyun. There they will feign a move across the river while actually moving into the rough wood hex between Tuyun and Kweillin. If I can get enough in there and a head start on the Chinese reinforcements I might be able to break through that hex and on to the are near Kweillin.

About 2.5k AV including the tank divisions will form a follow-on army to rotate in and make good any breakthroughs here. The tanks will stay at Tuyun and wait for opportunities to move across while forming a strong defense again counters toward Tuyun. I have a feeling he may think it vulnerable if he sees only three units here, and the tanks will deal severely with Chinese shocking across a river into +3 territory with 5-6 forts.

The goal is to open a route to the mountains and to take Kweillin and eventually the hex on the road between Tuyun and Kweiyang. If I can get these areas the mountains will be vulnerable and some of the best of the Chinese units may be left to the North essentially out of play. If he moves them, well, then maybe my stack at Chikhiang can actually finally get that base.





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I'll trade three Tojo IIa for four P-38E any day of the week! Good stuff. Really appreciate the butchering of the underescorted 2e and 4e bombers too.



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What's he got at Patung (dot base NW of Ichang) and NW of Sian? Would that vector be a useful threat against Chungking's / central plains left flank?

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This are a seems an afterthought for both of us. He has kept Port Moresby and I've not tried for it. My actual defensive line will begin quite far back even though I took bases to the South. Tulagi and everything in the Solomons South of Shortlands are abandoned.

I still have virtually no troops for the New Guinea to New Britain line, but once new naval guards and garrisons arrive they will all go down here. The Marianas are the first priority and have about 200-300 AV with level 4-5 forts now for the bigger bases. I'll also begin getting the Bonins a garrison soon. Once the CVEs arrive he could support something on the cheap out here, so I'm still keeping some good fighters and Kates here. New IJAAF forces will mostly head to the Pacific as the Burma and DEI areas are packed and overflowing now.

as the Sumatra-Burma coastline is nearing readiness I'll also now focus on the South DEI and Celebes-Moluccas. No sign of an effort by the Aussies to walk over and take Darwin though, which is good.




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What's he got at Patung (dot base NW of Ichang) and NW of Sian? Would that vector be a useful threat against Chungking's / central plains left flank?


He had 2 units at Patung last I checked. I don't think I could make headway there though as the 120k sitting on the river crossing near Chikhiang could shift some up to stop a movement there. In the North I've only left about 3k AV to hold. He has a lot of units still up there, including about 20 sitting in the woods near Sian. If I do something he'll start moving to block LOC and harassing the rear with those. It's a long yellow road up there with little supply flow and I think it might not get me through if I used enough troops to make it. I like the Southern flanking route as it's right off the rail and really threatens to blow the whole South open.

We also have an agreement to create a central Chinese reserve should the Chinese collapse completely and Chungking be threatened. For this reason I'm much more interested in getting into the mountains. If I can break through and even get a roadblock to move troops through to get up there it would be huge.

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Wirraways? Really? For combat? Thats very counterproductive! You should thank him!

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Thats a really odd OP against Magwe. Not a very good one if I may say so. Even if he had been successful there is no way he could have held onto it for longer than a few turns. Even if you had been unable to close the airfield he could never have flown in enough to hold the base for more than e few turns. I am assuming here you have enough in central Burma to kick two Chindits out and whatever he would have been able to fly in over a few turns! Really odd and just a waste of troops and aircraft if you ask me. Feint?

Wirraways? Really? For combat? Thats very counterproductive! You should thank him!


Even more odd, the fields were already closed, so if he'd taken the base he would have had to repair them with any Chindit engineers that come with those units, obviously not enough as I would crush the base the next few days and likely destroy the troops from the air anyway.

Wirraways (34 lost), Lysanders (77 lost), Hudson I (50 lost), Bolos (52 lost), Fulmar II (40 lost). I'm sure he'd be using the CW-22 Flacons if there was a Dutch unit in Burma right now.

It all could be an elaborate ruse and the Bonins will be invaded next week. Not much I could do about that anyway, so I'll enjoy Burma for now.

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The next few days have been very quiet. No more bombing runs over central Burma and nothing else moving around the map except my steady bombing of Chinese bases and troops.

CHINA: Interesting. A bombardment that's been running for several days suddenly came up a bit bigger than usual, actually killing off Chinese troops and having no casualties inflicted on ours. I'm wondering if this means supply is getting low. I'll keep it going for a while. I don't dare attack as this stack is bigger than my own, and even a DA here would mean months of recovery. Instead I'm still going to move troops around to the South and in about a week begin the move into the woods.

BURMA: My division and AA are nearly to Magwe moving in combat mode. Another big engineer unit is on the way as well. The fields are still 50% damaged. My fighter units are beginning to take turns standing down to rest planes and pilots.

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Morning Air attack on 74th Chinese Corps, at 76,51 , near Tuyun

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 51



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at 76,51 (near Tuyun)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31544 troops, 438 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 3986

Defending force 135502 troops, 780 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4290


Allied ground losses:
97 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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More arty in China would be a big help. How much does combat drop off once units are short on supply? I've heard several different thoughts on this and I'm not sure it's worth trying anything without knowing for sure. I guess I could try some 1k feet bombing runs and see if the machine guns are firing.
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SUBS: Sub activity has dropped off everywhere but especially up North. I've got two ASW TFs sitting in the narrows, two SAGs of DDs and Es to take care of any lone surface threats, and the Kates are now trained up and operating from the Kuriles, likely discouraging any further action up here. We'll see.

DEI: Strangely, two of my ships hit mines at Singers on the 27th. I had thought this must have been a sub-mined field, and wondered how they got past my own mines there. After the replay I noticed these two ships, one of which sunk, had hit Type 93 mines!!

Poor navigation charts? Bad commanders? Too much partying with the Geishas the night before?

Glad it was only an SC. I had CVs here a few days ago. Yikes.

CHINA: Still getting a lot of supply hits and keeping airfields closed at Chikhiang, Kweiyang and most importantly at Chungking. I'm beginning flights by Nicks to strafe and bomb from 100ft at the Chinese stack in the river crossing hex near Chikhiang. I'm getting convinced he's not just low but out of supply. I have to be sure before initiating any kind of an attack here though. If he has any I could be toast.

Troops wil be in posit to initiate the final Southern China flanking operation. There will be about 4000 AV taking part and they will move into the wooded hills to attack four Chinese units there, hopefully forcing a retreat before they can be reinforced. I of course can slow CHinese movement with the dominance in the air we now have.

PACIFIC: Looks like another supply or troop run into oct moresby. The fighters are back and a small TF listing AP is heading up. All of my zeros are heading to Madang and will sweep tomorrow. Even 1:1 is good for me right now. I need to keep his pools low to suppress action in Burma and I don't mind getting rid of the excess A6M2 pool as the A6M3a is online and the A6M5 is coming on in November!

BURMA: Very quiet since the major fighting around Magwe recently. Surprisingly no big assaults on Mandalay.

There is however something happening in the IO. A set of rather ominous TFs have moved from Ceylon and are heading toward the Andamans or Sumatra! All IJN air groups are returning to their stations at Sabang/Langsha/Medan and Victoria Point/Chumpon. I've got a Mavis group on Port Blair and will move in night searching jakes to another Andaman island.

This is the test we've been waiting for, it seems. Can we hold off the Allied fleets with only air strikes and small naval actions? The plan is to send in the stealth strike force: 40 subs have been waiting at Singapore, Victoria Point and Benkolen. They alng with several DD TFs will get into position. I've got a CL led Sag at Rangoon and it will form a reserve to pick up pieces should there be any hits that create crippled ships and the CVs are not near. I will not risk anything larger now until I know what is being targeted. If he takes station off Sumatra all fleet forces will be put into action from Singapore and Soerabaja, including BBs with the CVs in reserve, again to hit anything left after first strikes and support CAP in the Malay straits, out of range of the Allied CV search and strike force and supported by LBA. Maps in the next post.

OZ: I've begun deeper recon flights in OZ but it seems like there is no major thrust coming from the Tenant Creek area. There are 16k troops there now. I did notice that around 30 bombers are there as well with no fighter cover. I brought in the Helens to Darwin and hit the base at extended range, destroying a few on the ground. Every little bit helps. I'll now see if he moves fighters in. If not, after a few days I'll do it again.


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Morning Air attack on Chihkiang , at 78,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 16
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 20

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Tennant Creek , at 76,137

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 15

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
CW-22 Falcon: 1 damaged
CW-22 Falcon: 1 destroyed on ground
L-212: 2 damaged
L-212: 1 destroyed on ground
B-339D: 1 damaged
B-339D: 1 destroyed on ground

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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TF 152 encounters mine field at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Ships
PB Hakkaisan Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
SC Ch 5, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Morning Air attack on 1st Chinese Corps, at 76,51 , near Tuyun

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 51
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 27 None damaged at all!


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
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INVASION IN THE ANDAMAN ISLANDS!

SUBS: It's a pretty sight! Roughly 40 subs concentrating in very small area of the IO close to the Andaman Islands. About 1/3 are picked up by air searches and get a DL between 2/2 and 10/10. Some are clean.

Over the course of these several nights and days there were too many contacts involving subs to list, but I've included anything that gave significant damage to either side below. So far we've managed to hit BB Idaho with one TT, CA Houston with one TT, and lost three subs. Several others are sufficiently damaged to return to Singapore, but should be fine. In the next days 2/3 of the subs will swarm while the others move to guard retirement lanes toward Ceylon. Have a look at the map below!

ANDAMANS: The target so far is just one island; Car Nicobar. This has a very good (exp 83) SNLF unit and I've begun flying in paras and a base force. He lands the 100th Indian Brigade and a base force. The CVs are here along with a LOT of surface vessels. This is daunting as the ASW of this many Allied ships in a small space could be tough.

THe Allies attacked on the second day, getting only a 1:2 with a DA. On the 1st they went all-in for a shock attack that only got a 1:3 but knocked out a bunch of SNLF squads disabled. His units must be highly disrupted now and not capable of another attack in spite to their better quality.

The main goal of getting to the CVs with the subs and possibly an airstrike has not yet been achieved. The CVs were at the Car Nicobar hex for a two day stint, but unfortunately our planes couldn't take advantage after TWO cruiser bombardments of Victoria Point, closing the base for a day and taking out about 15 planes. Sabang was working fine though, as was Chumpon, so on the 1st they flew all planes. The CVs moved back a few hexes out of range, sadly avoiding numerous sub interactions, and that left several bombarding cruiser TFs in the Car Nicobar hex with only distant CAP protection.

The 2E had no luck with torpedo attacks, but they likely got the Cap out of position to stop the Kates from Sabang that came in and bombed the Brits and US fleets at 8 hex range. They put serious damage on Caradoc and moderate damage on several other cruisers. Late in the day they also hit one DD.

So if the para units can hold and make this take a bit longer, maybe the DDs will eventually run out of DC ammo! All planes are on for tomorrow again and restricted to Car Nicobar range. I have LR CAP over the base from Port Blair and a group of Rufes stationed at Car Nicobar providing extra escort support. Also, the reports show 44 Wildcats lost on the 1st, so the CV protection is weakened. Will he stick around?

PACIFIC: More sweeping here led to even losses of about 25 planes for each side. Works for me. Subs rescued many pilots in the drink at PM.

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Pre-Invasion action off Car Nicobar (44,62)

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CLAA Van Heemskerck
xAP Jalaputra
KV Genista
DD Thanet

CLAA Van Heemskerck firing at Kure 3rd SNLF
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

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Amphibious Assault at Car Nicobar (44,62)

TF 202 troops unloading over beach at Car Nicobar, 44,62


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

10 troops of a Ind Inf Section accidentally lost during unload of 100th Indian Bde /2

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
Kittyhawk IA x 13
Spitfire Vc Trop x 14
P-39D Airacobra x 40
P-400 Airacobra x 22
P-40E Warhawk x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 10 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 23



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 8
Kittyhawk IA x 8
Spitfire Vc Trop x 13
P-39D Airacobra x 17
P-400 Airacobra x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 31000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 23



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Kittyhawk IA x 6
Spitfire Vc Trop x 8
P-39D Airacobra x 13
P-400 Airacobra x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 26

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 10
Kittyhawk IA x 8
Spitfire Vc Trop x 13
P-39D Airacobra x 27
P-400 Airacobra x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 19


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 31000 feet

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Ground combat at Car Nicobar (44,62)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1333 troops, 7 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 62

Defending force 1336 troops, 12 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 95

Assaulting units:
Kure 3rd SNLF

Defending units:
100th Indian Bde /1
107th RAF Base Force /1


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ASW attack near Trinkat at 47,64

Japanese Ships
SS I-30, hits 5

Allied Ships
DD Decoy
CA Pensacola
CA Louisville
CA Houston
DD Express
DD Electra

SS I-30 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Decoy
DD Express attacking submerged sub ....

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ASW attack near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Japanese Ships
SS I-170, hits 2

Allied Ships
DD Tenedos
KV Genista
xAP Jalaputra
xAP E Sang
DD Thanet

SS I-170 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Tenedos
I-170 bottoming out ....

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Night Naval bombardment of Victoria Point at 51,66

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 39 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed on ground
G4M1 Betty: 72 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed on ground
D3A1 Val: 28 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M3a Zero: 2 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City
CA Pensacola
CA Louisville
CA Houston

Japanese ground losses:
226 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 48

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Night Naval bombardment of Victoria Point at 51,66

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 22 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed on ground
D3A1 Val: 19 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 25 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground
A6M3a Zero: 1 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
CA Minneapolis
CA Astoria

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7

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ASW attack near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Japanese Ships
SS I-16, hits 9

Allied Ships
DD Hammann
DD Anderson

SS I-16 is sighted by escort
I-16 bottoming out ....

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Ground combat at Car Nicobar (44,62)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2068 troops, 15 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 135

Defending force 2112 troops, 16 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 98

Allied adjusted assault: 24

Japanese adjusted defense: 61

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
100th Indian Brigade
107th RAF Base Force /1

Defending units:
Kure 3rd SNLF
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
2nd Raiding Rgt /1
27th JAAF AF Bn /1

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ASW attack near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Japanese Ships
SS I-27, hits 10, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Hughes
DD Hammann

SS I-27 is located by DD Hughes
DD Hammann fails to find sub, continues to search...

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Night Naval bombardment of Car Nicobar at 44,62

Allied Ships
CA Hawkins
CA Devonshire
CA Dorsetshire
CA Canberra
CA Vincennes
CL Caradoc
CL Birmingham
CL Mauritius
CL Durban
CL Hobart
DD Norman
DD Nizam
DD Jupiter
DD Inconstant
DD Hotspur
DD Foxhound
DD Fortune
DD Tjerk Hiddes
DD Lardner
DD Lansdowne
DD Buchanan
DD Laffey

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Port hits 108
Port supply hits 20

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ASW attack near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33, hits 11

Allied Ships
CA Hawkins
CA Devonshire
CA Dorsetshire
CA Vincennes
CL Caradoc
CL Birmingham
DD Fortune
DD Laffey
DD Norman
DD Nizam
DD Jupiter
DD Inconstant

SS RO-33 is sighted by escort

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Submarine attack near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Japanese Ships
SS I-168, hits 30, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Hawkins
CA Dorsetshire
CA Canberra
CA Vincennes
CL Caradoc
CL Birmingham
CL Durban
DD Lardner
DD Norman
DD Nizam
DD Jupiter
DD Inconstant

SS I-168 is sighted by escort
I-168 bottoming out ....

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ASW attack near Little Andaman at 44,60

Japanese Ships
SS RO-68

Allied Ships
BB Washington
CLAA San Juan
CLAA Atlanta
DD Woodworth
DD Aaron Ward
DD Monssen
DD Russell
DD Mustin
DD Caldwell
DD Bancroft

SS RO-68 is sighted by escort
RO-68 diving deep ....

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Sub attack near Little Andaman at 39,59

Japanese Ships
SS I-158, hits 2

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Torpedo hits 1
CA Pensacola
DD Express
DD Electra

SS I-158 launches 6 torpedoes at CA Houston
I-158 diving deep ....

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Sub attack near Little Andaman at 44,60

Japanese Ships
SS RO-68, hits 1

Allied Ships
BB Idaho, Torpedo hits 1
DD Maury
DD Gridley

SS RO-68 launches 6 torpedoes at BB Idaho
RO-68 diving deep ....

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 44 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 64
A6M2-N Rufe x 13
A6M3a Zero x 27
G3M3 Nell x 25
G4M1 Betty x 27

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 108


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed
A6M2-N Rufe: 3 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed
G3M3 Nell: 17 damaged
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 8 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Dorsetshire
DD Anderson
CA Canberra
DD Nizam
CA Hawkins
DD Hammann
CL Mauritius
CL Hobart
DD Sims
DD Jupiter
DD Fortune
CA Vincennes
DD Buchanan

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
25 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 109 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
A6M2-N Rufe x 9
A6M3a Zero x 6
G4M1 Betty x 21
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 21

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 66


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CLAA Van Heemskerck
DD Foxhound
DD Jupiter
CA Vincennes
CL Durban

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 7
B5N2 Kate x 33



Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 37


Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Caradoc, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Devonshire
CA Vincennes, Bomb hits 3
CL Durban, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Dorsetshire, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Hobart
CA Canberra, Bomb hits 1
DD Nizam

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 106 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
A6M2-N Rufe x 2
A6M3a Zero x 17
G3M3 Nell x 21



Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 69


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
G3M3 Nell: 6 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Caradoc, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Jalagopal
CA Hawkins
xAP Tairea



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 12
B5N2 Kate x 15



Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 38


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 3 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DD Sims, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Hammann
DD Anderson
DD Hughes

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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ASW attack near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Japanese Ships
SS I-2, hits 14

Allied Ships
CA Hawkins
CA Vincennes
CL Caradoc, heavy damage
CL Birmingham
CL Hobart
DD Norman
DD Lansdowne
DD Nizam
DD Jupiter
DD Inconstant
DD Hotspur

SS I-2 is sighted by escort
DD Nizam attacking submerged sub ....

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Ground combat at Car Nicobar (44,62)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3913 troops, 56 guns, 47 vehicles, Assault Value = 128

Defending force 2215 troops, 16 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 91

Allied adjusted assault: 14

Japanese adjusted defense: 49

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
320 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
119 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled


Assaulting units:
100th Indian Brigade
107th RAF Base Force

Defending units:
Kure 3rd SNLF
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
2nd Raiding Rgt /1
27th JAAF AF Bn /1
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Status: offline 		I wonder:
If he knew Car was occupied?
What his tactical map shows? (that is a lot of subs!)
What the thinking is landing at one island between yours with no strips built?
I would call this move a mini canoe.
What Musashi and Yamato could do with a decent fast screen?

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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

I wonder:
If he knew Car was occupied?
What his tactical map shows? (that is a lot of subs!)
What the thinking is landing at one island between yours with no strips built?
I would call this move a mini canoe.
What Musashi and Yamato could do with a decent fast screen?


He did know Car was occupied. I had kicked his previous base force out of there during the last try here.

It seems about 30-40% of subs are sighted during the turn, but whichever ones end up on the fringes are not. Which is good, as they then move in while the others head to block his retreat.

Not sure why he came to one island. I think it might have been a plan to lure out more of my surface forces, to bombard my main air bases, and to see if at seemingly little risk to his forces (his CVs only briefly were within the extended range of the Kates, and never in DB range). He might also be assessing how strong the defenses are here, and what I can do to a major invasion should he attempt one.

I'd call it more of a paper boat.

I haven't built Musashi, but I will leave the bombarding here later to CLs and DDs, and I'll be sending Sallys daily once the CVs clear off.

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SUBS: The I-32 got through to the damaged CA TF, where Caradoc shows heavy damage, but only gets a shot at a DD and is then sunk by the rest of the escorts. Having to rev up to avoid subs could send damaged ships under though, so it could still be a useful engagement. A later engagement with the I-8, and two more later in the day show the same ships but Caradoc is missing. The I-5 finishes off DD Sims. The I-19 puts one TT into CA Vincennes. The I-153 finally gets our first shot at a CV but somehow misses Hornet with a spread of 6. Frustrating.

I was optimistic some more of the damaged ships could be given more fatal shots by the wolf-packs here, but there were very few engagements on the 3rd and few shots even though we got about 20 of the faster subs into the retreat paths to Colombo. All of the damaged subs are being sent to Singapore, and a few of the healthy ones will stay near Ceylon to see if there is anything left to hit.

CHINA: It looks like he's reinforcing the hex I'm aiming for with at least one more unit. Still, 5 Chinese in the rough +3 is better than taking on 25 on a river crossing i nthe same territory, so in spite of my desire to go all in for a big assault, I'll stick to the long range plan here. Once the big stack moves out of Tuyun I wonder to if I'll be able to entice him to move over the river against the two remaining units there, which will be two armored divisions behind level 4 forts!

PACIFIC: Fighters move again to PM. He is game to wear down his pools, and I'm certainly not going to turn down the offer. My pilot strength is improving here as well. As I get them into th e70s in exp I'll transition them out for recently trained pilots.

BURMA: Troops on Car begin to recover and the remainder of the three para units fill out to give the base some solidity until a 120 AV garrison unit can be brought in by fast transport to begin working on the Indian brigade here. Because he didn't get the base at least his forts will be more difficult to build here.

OZ: Helens again take out a few planes on the ground at Tennant Creek.

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Submarine attack near Car Nicobar at 43,61

Japanese Ships
SS I-32, hits 26, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan
CA Hawkins
CL Caradoc, heavy damage
CL Birmingham
DD Norman
DD Jupiter
DD Inconstant
DD Hotspur
DD Foxhound

SS I-32 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Buchanan
DD Jupiter attacking submerged sub ....

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ASW attack near Car Nicobar at 44,62

Japanese Ships
SS I-5, hits 5

Allied Ships
DD Sims, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hughes

SS I-5 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Sims
I-5 bottoming out ....
DD Hughes fails to find sub, continues to search...

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Sub attack near Car Nicobar at 43,61

Japanese Ships
SS I-19

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes, Torpedo hits 1
DD Hotspur
DD Inconstant



SS I-19 launches 6 torpedoes at CA Vincennes
I-19 diving deep ....

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Sub attack near Little Andaman at 40,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-153

Allied Ships
CV Hornet
BB Washington
CLAA San Juan
DD Farenholt
DD Aaron Ward
DD Grayson
DD Russell
DD Mustin
DD Caldwell
DD Bancroft

SS I-153 launches 6 torpedoes at CV Hornet
DD Russell fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Mustin fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Caldwell fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Bancroft fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Submarine attack near Anatom at 123,161

Japanese Ships
SS I-18

Allied Ships
xAKL Hamakua, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

xAKL Hamakua is sighted by SS I-18
SS I-18 launches 2 torpedoes

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Morning Air attack on Tennant Creek , at 76,137

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 25



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
CW-22 Falcon: 1 damaged
CW-22 Falcon: 1 destroyed on ground
B-339D: 2 damaged
B-339D: 1 destroyed on ground
L-212: 2 damaged
139WH-3: 4 damaged
139WH-3: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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I-153 .....close. I had to check the opposing AAR, couldn't help it, so I'm mum for now. I do like his TF composition, very similar to my own.


I like it too. He actually has about 4-5 CVs in those TFs usually, which I think might be too many considering early war coordination problems and the need for more escorts to protect them against subs.

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SUBS: The subs near Ceylon get no further strikes on anything larger than a DD, and several are sent home with significant damage. About 4-5 ASW TFs are roaming the waters now. Time to get out.

CHINA: Nicks are still getting to 100 feet against the big Chinese stack and receiving no AA, putting small hits on the troops. This should mean he's out of supply here, but I don't want to risk a massive defeat yet. I'll wait until he possibly shifts troops to defend the Tuyun-Kweiyang area and after more days of bombardment and steady air strikes.

PACIFIC: No action as I decided to upgrade my zeros here to A6M3a.

BURMA: CVs left Ceylon again and seem to be heading back toward Diego. Are they possibly shifting to anther theatre through Cape Town?

No further moves here in the air or on the ground. Magwe is back in action with an air HQ and no damage to the fields.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 4, 42
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Ground combat at Car Nicobar (44,62)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 2639 troops, 28 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 120

Defending force 3112 troops, 23 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 89

Allied adjusted assault: 3

Japanese adjusted defense: 87

Allied assault odds: 1 to 29 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
409 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 69 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Assaulting units:
100th Indian Brigade
107th RAF Base Force

Defending units:
Kure 3rd SNLF
2nd Raiding Regiment
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
1st Raiding Rgt /1
37th Const Co
27th JAAF AF Bn /1
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 5, 42
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Ground combat at 76,51 (near Tuyun)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1570 troops, 194 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3311

Defending force 144123 troops, 852 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4744


Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
66th Infantry Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
20th Recon Regiment
36th Division
27th Division
56th Recon Regiment
35th Division
32nd Division
4th Ind.Mixed Brigade
13th Ind.Mixed Brigade
41st Division
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Tank Regiment
3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
26th Recon Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
13th Army
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Army
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Army
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
27th Chinese Corps
16th Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
13th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
1st Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
9th Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
2nd Group Army
56th AT Gun Regiment


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Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2756

Defending force 63986 troops, 366 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2423



Assaulting units:
40th Division
17th Division
22nd Division
6th Division
116th Division
104th Division
23rd Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion

Defending units:
84th Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
88th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
91st Chinese Corps
56th Chinese/C Corps
60th Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
1st Chinese Cavalry Corps
71st Chinese/C Corps
17th Chinese Base Force
32nd Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment
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Morning Air attack on 18th Chinese Corps, at 76,51 , near Tuyun

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...

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SUBS: The sub flotillas are sortying again. The Allied CVs show themselves and look to be coming back for some reason again.

INDIAN OCEAN: My fast transports dropped a garrison unit on Car and this is going to make the base all but impregnable to assault in the near future unless the Allies are coming with more. Interestingly, the CVs that looked to be heading toward Diego circled around and caught my smaller CL led force that had unloaded and chased a group of APDs at Car. I still don't know what these ships were doing there, as none were attacked and there are still only two units there.

All subs and planes are on stand-by. I took the liberty of inserting 300 mines at Sabang and Victoria point in case of bombardments and I have 50 on subs heading to Car for the 10th. At Sabang 50 Kates with escorts are set, 65 Nells are ready from Medan, another 100 Bettys and 50 Kates from Victoria Point, 30 Betty from Chumpon and 25 Vals from Port Blair. All are aiming for one hex beyond Car which is 9 hexes for Kates and 10-15 for the 2E torpedo bombers.

There are 25-30 subs not damaged and ready to go, and there are MTBs and midget subs at Sabang plus the non-damaged CL/DD TF at Victoria Point. Only 3% moonlight. Long Lance time!

He may just be extracting his troops, or something else, but I'm ready for more invasions as well.

CHINA: All troops should be at Tuyun tomorrow and then will begin moving together once out of strat mode.

PACIFIC: Some sweeps pover two days again result in just about 1:1 losses.

BURMA: The Chindits land at Ramree Island and take the base. I'll begin walking an IJA division there which will take it back if he doesn't bring more. If he does bring more there are now 27 Vals and 30 Kates at Rangoon with 45 A6M3a. I'll begin LR CAP from Prome tomorrow.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 7, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Car Nicobar at 44,62, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
DD Yugumo
DD Yukikaze
DD Hayashio
DD Hagikaze

Allied Ships
APD Fox
APD Brooks
APD Gilmer
APD Hatfield
APD Kane

Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 0% moonlight: 3,000 yards
Range increases to 23,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat

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Morning Air attack on 15th Const Co , at 54,48 (Ramree Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 34
Hudson IIIa x 3
Wellington Ic x 12
Hudson I x 12
Hudson III (LR) x 12
B-17E Fortress x 32
B-17F Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 31
B-25C Mitchell x 15
B-26 Marauder x 3
B-26B Marauder x 21


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 76,51 (near Tuyun)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1570 troops, 194 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3333

Defending force 144094 troops, 851 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4745


Allied ground losses:
119 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Ramree Island (54,48)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 790 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 58

Defending force 274 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Allied adjusted assault: 4

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ramree Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), disruption(-)
preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: op mode(-), shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
160 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 3

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
111th Chindit Bde /1

Defending units:
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /3
15th Const Co
Southern Fleet /1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 8, 42
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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 17
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7

Allied aircraft
Hurricane XIIb x 15


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 84 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 20
A6M3a Zero x 52



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
Kittyhawk IA x 14
Spitfire Vc Trop x 14
P-39D Airacobra x 23
P-400 Airacobra x 21
P-40E Warhawk x 23
P-40K Warhawk x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 31000 feet
10 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 31000 feet
10 x A6M3 Zero sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 37000 , scrambling fighters between 34000 and 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
No.76 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
No.60 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 35600 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
12th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 32100.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
8th FG/35th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
347th FG/67th FS with P-400 Airacobra (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes

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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 27


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 3rd RTA Division, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2



Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 47
Hudson IIIa x 3
Hudson I x 12
B-18A Bolo x 12
B-17E Fortress x 19
B-24D Liberator x 26
B-25C Mitchell x 31
B-26 Marauder x 9
B-26B Marauder x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson IIIa: 1 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Koggala at 33,56

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 63
SBD-2 Dauntless x 17
SBD-3 Dauntless x 34


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hayashio, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 1
DD Hagikaze
DD Yugumo, Bomb hits 1, on fire



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Koggala at 33,56

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 15


Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, on fire
DD Yukikaze

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Koggala at 33,56

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 64
SBD-3 Dauntless x 50
TBF-1 Avenger x 14


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hagikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Yugumo, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 9, 42
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Sub attack near Koggala at 32,59

Japanese Ships
SS RO-67

Allied Ships
DD Napier
CA Hawkins
DD Stack
DD Nepal
DD Tjerk Hiddes
DD Van Galen

SS RO-67 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Napier
DD Nepal fails to find sub and abandons search

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Morning Air attack on Tennant Creek , at 76,137

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 9 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
CW-22 Falcon: 1 damaged
L-212: 4 damaged
139WH-3: 2 damaged
B-339D: 10 damaged
B-339D: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 24



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
Kittyhawk IA x 14
Spitfire Vc Trop x 14
P-39D Airacobra x 21
P-400 Airacobra x 17
P-40E Warhawk x 23
P-40K Warhawk x 21


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 31000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 21



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
Kittyhawk IA x 10
Spitfire Vc Trop x 13
P-39D Airacobra x 20
P-400 Airacobra x 15
P-40E Warhawk x 20
P-40K Warhawk x 20


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 12


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 13
Kittyhawk IA x 10
Spitfire Vc Trop x 13
P-39D Airacobra x 18
P-400 Airacobra x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

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Since I know the Chindits are not full strength, I now he has to bring more of other units to try to keep this base. It'll be interesting to be on th either side of an air transport reinforcement.
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Status: offline 		His SBD pilots are disappointing their CO I'm sure. That's quite a nice escape, considering the number of sorties over the cruiser. Hopefully the fires are under control with little floatation or engine damage.

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His SBD pilots are disappointing their CO I'm sure. That's quite a nice escape, considering the number of sorties over the cruiser. Hopefully the fires are under control with little floatation or engine damage.


It was a short-lived escape, I'm afraid.

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SUBS: Only one sub had contact with the Allied fleet, not getting a shot off. Others hover around Car just waiting for a chance.

INDIAN OCEAN: So now I'm not sure the purpose of the Allied CV mission back toward the Andamans. Maybe this was just a run back to hit ships I sent in to reinforce Car and see what other targets of opportunity were around. If this is the case it accomplished it's goals admirably.

The wounded CL Kiso and several DDs made their way to near Port Blair before the Allied CVs moved in from their trajectory aimed at Car and hit them with more DB and TB strikes. Over these days he sank the Kiso and five good DDs. I'm really steamed I let these ships get into harms way, and I can't afford these kinds of losses now. The IJN is sitting in port primarily just for this reason, but still I managed to lose six more very useful ships for the price of one sunk DD and a reinforced dot base. Not enough.

The Allied cruisers hit Sabang on the 10th for little damage, but somehow avoided the 320 mines there while bombarding from has close as 8000 yards. That doesn't seem right. They managed to miss all three big subs and 4 midgets stationed at and on the approaches to the base, but did sink 4 MTBs and got into a skirmish with three small DDs which got in close to 1k yards and Minekaze sank the USS Balch with a TT hit.

About 33 Nells made torpedo runs against these ships at 14 hex range and none could score a hit. Good pilots too. Not sure what is happening there.

The Allied CVs were engaged accidentally by the four DDs I sent to refuel another injured ship, and they got to 7k yards firing Long Lances, but no hits were landed. They did score 3 x 12.7cm hits on Saratoga which was nice, but not enough for such low moonlight and such close engagements. It should be a Long Lance dream engagement. If the CVs were screened then I''m surprised the escorts didn't get some hits.

From Port Blair a flight of Vals escorted by Tojos and Oscars managed to break 16 through. They had dives on the Enterprise, Saratoga and Hermes (as well as 4 who went for a DD !!???!!), but scored only two x 250kg hits on the Hermes. Not exactly what I was looking for, but nice to know they could get through the CAP.

BURMA: He tried to reinforce Ramree by sea with an xAKL solo run, and it was hit and sunk by Kates from Rangoon.

Lightnings made a concerted effort to clear LR CAP over Ramree and got good results (about 2.5:1), but still left some CAP there which over three days caused the loss of 30+ transports and flying boats. I think he's going to find this is not an easy place to maintain troops at this point in the war, and if he gets the CVs involved that'll just put them again in harm's way near LBA and hordes of subs. My division is moving slowly across, and should get there

OZ: Some more bombing of Tenant Creek and a few more planes hit n the ground.


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sabang at 44,70, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Asakaze
DD Minekaze, Shell hits 2
DD Okikaze, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
CA Astoria, Shell hits 1
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1
CA Quincy, Shell hits 1
DD Hammann
DD Bagley
DD Blue
DD Henley
DD Patterson
DD Dunlap
DD Balch, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Clark

Reduced sighting due to 3% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 3% moonlight: 1,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
DD Balch engages DD Okikaze at 1,000 yards
DD Balch sunk by DD Minekaze at 1,000 yards
CA Minneapolis engages DD Minekaze at 1,000 yards
Range increases to 2,000 yards
CA Quincy engages DD Okikaze at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
CA Quincy engages DD Okikaze at 4,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Hammann at 4,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Night Naval bombardment of Sabang at 44,70

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 13 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed on ground
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M3a Zero: 5 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
CA Minneapolis
CA Astoria

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22

CA Quincy firing at 5th Division
CA San Francisco firing at Sabang
CA Minneapolis firing at 5th Division
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for CA Astoria
CA Astoria firing at 5th Division


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Sabang at 43,70, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-7, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-1, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-2, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA Minneapolis
CA San Francisco
CA Quincy
DD Hammann
DD Bagley
DD Blue
DD Henley
DD Patterson
DD Dunlap
DD Clark

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Moore, S. crosses the 'T'
Nomizo, H. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 15,000 yards
MTB G-2 sunk by DD Hammann at 13,000 yards
Combat ends with last Japanese ship sunk...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Port Blair at 44,55, Range 26,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Akigumo, Shell hits 21, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Naganami, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Maikaze
DD Nowaki

Allied Ships
CV Saratoga, Shell hits 3
CV Yorktown
CV Enterprise
CV Hornet
CV Wasp
CVL Hermes
BB Washington
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 2
CLAA Atlanta
CLAA Juneau, Shell hits 1
CLAA San Diego
CLAA San Juan, Shell hits 1
DD Grayson
DD Monssen
DD Aaron Ward
DD Duncan
DD McCalla
DD Farenholt
DD Woodworth
DD Bailey
DD Bancroft
DD Caldwell
DD Mustin
DD Russell

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 26,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 26,000 yards
CV Wasp , CV Hornet , CV Enterprise ,
CV Yorktown , CV Saratoga , CVL Hermes screened from combat
- escorted by DD Russell , DD Mustin , DD Caldwell ,
DD Bancroft , DD Bailey , DD Woodworth ,
DD Farenholt , DD McCalla , DD Duncan ,
DD Aaron Ward , DD Monssen
Range closes to 25,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages BB South Dakota at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD Akigumo engages CV Saratoga at 7,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages CV Saratoga at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
BB South Dakota engages DD Maikaze at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
DD Grayson engages DD Naganami at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
BB Washington engages DD Akigumo at 27,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sabang at 35,70

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 45
G3M3 Nell x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 6 damaged
G3M3 Nell: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA Minneapolis
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
DD Blue
DD Clark

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
20 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 44,55

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 21
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 42

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 116


Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 6 damaged
D3A2 Val: 4 destroyed by flak
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Enterprise
DD Maury
CV Wasp
CV Saratoga
CVL Hermes, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A2 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A2 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x D3A2 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 43,52

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 43
SBD-2 Dauntless x 17
SBD-3 Dauntless x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Little Andaman at 42,54

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12
SBD-3 Dauntless x 30
TBF-1 Avenger x 14


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Yugumo, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Yukikaze, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 44,55

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 66
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Maikaze, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 12, 42
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ASW attack near Car Nicobar at 37,62

Japanese Ships
SS RO-64, hits 2

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota
BB Washington
CLAA San Juan
CLAA San Diego
CLAA Juneau
CLAA Atlanta
DD Bailey
DD Aaron Ward
DD Russell
DD Mustin
DD Caldwell
DD Bancroft


SS RO-64 is sighted by escort
DD Russell fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Mustin attacking submerged sub ....
DD Caldwell attacking submerged sub ....
DD Bancroft fails to find sub and abandons search
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 37
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 59


Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 22


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 37
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 44

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 12 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 54,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 18
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Kalarand, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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This was hard to watch. you wan to make a mark when you can get anything in shooting range of the main CV fleet, and we had two engagements that came up virtually empty in one day.
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SUBS: All subs in the IO go into small area patrols and a few move out for deep early warning search. About ten are having repairs done at Singapore and Victoria Point.

INDIAN OCEAN: The US CVs do not reappear. Still curious here what will be next. There is also what appears to be a SAG hanging around Chittagong. Kates and Vals at Rangoon are still active.

CHINA: All troops begin moving to the woods, and immediately Chinese troops show movement from Kweiyang and the blocking stack near Tuyun. Interestingly the troops in the river blocking hex also show movement toward Kweillin. If he's moving all of these units, sending some to the woods and some to Kweillin, firstly the ones in movement have lost their fortification. Secondly maybe few units will be here in a few moves. I'm thinking of sending the two Armored divisions over the river. Yikes. They could get trashed, but sometimes even at poor odds, tanks in China don't lose a lot of squads or devices in battle against superior forces.

There are some big decisions here. I'll post some maps soon.

PACIFIC: No fighters in PM now. I'm reconning NE OZ bases from Milne Bay, and there isn't a lot around, confirming that this seems like a secondary theatre for both of us. Most bases on New Britain and New Guinea will not build past level 2 fields and level 1 ports, but will aim for 5-6 forts.

BURMA: While two groups of Lightnings found empty air over the troops near Ramree, my LR CAP over that base didn't react and move to cover, which was a good thing this day. Later around 10-12 transports were taken down over Ramree. I sent sweeps targeting about 80 fighters newly based at Cox's Bazaar. I imagined these were LR CAP for Ramree. Often LR CAP will defend it's own base before heading out to the assigned destination. This seems to be what happened here. All planes were set at 10k and arrived in small packets. First Nicks arrived and got about even numbers. Then the Tojos arrived and lost no planes and killed about 25 of the opposing.

Arriving perfectly after the sweeps, 25 Sallys met no opposition and wrecked the base hitting more fighters on the ground.

While writing this up I received a message from Torsten about revising our HRs. Interesting. He wants night-bombing back, obviously, as he doesn't want to have to lose bombers bombing in daylight.

Can the Japanese player actually have success without it being 'unfair?' Seems a good question lately.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 14, 42
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Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 24

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 27
Hurricane IIc Trop x 19
Kittyhawk I x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed


CAP engaged:
No.111 Sqn RCAF with Kittyhawk I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
No.11 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
No.135 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 14 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
49th FG/9th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 14 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 36

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 18
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
Kittyhawk I x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 3 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 11

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 14 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed on ground
Kittyhawk I: 3 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 41

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 8/23/2013 3:51:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		My worst fears as an AFB. Surface combat with my CV TFs which seldom have more than one heavy cruiser attached for protection with 1 plane guard DD and 4-5 more escorting DDs per carrier. I usually have a surface force at "0" hexes react 3 to ward off this type of encounter, but I'm not sure it will work as it has never been triggered in three PBEMs.

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My worst fears as an AFB. Surface combat with my CV TFs which seldom have more than one heavy cruiser attached for protection with 1 plane guard DD and 4-5 more escorting DDs per carrier. I usually have a surface force at "0" hexes react 3 to ward off this type of encounter, but I'm not sure it will work as it has never been triggered in three PBEMs.


I had 4 Kongo BBs get to the Allied CVs and fight for a good while landing no hits on them i spite of surprise and a few other advantages. It was incredibly frustrating, especially in this game after my KB was hit on turn two by a 22 knot BB Nevada over and over in one combat and somehow was not screened and couldn't just run away. My expectations for surface combat against Allied CVs is very low. The law of percentages has to work for my on maybe the third or four try though, right?

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