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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 8/17/2017 7:23:30 PM

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Oh, man, I would love to pick up the game, but I can't keep up with what I have right now.

Can you send me the files if indeed it is a drop. I would love to look at it from the Allied POV.

haha! I though you might be interested.

i can definitely send the files. I know you're kind of up on the game, but as I say it's possible (and probably best) to go back a bit if someone does want to take over.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 8/17/2017 7:48:38 PM

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Oh, man, I would love to pick up the game, but I can't keep up with what I have right now.

Can you send me the files if indeed it is a drop. I would love to look at it from the Allied POV.

haha! I though you might be interested.

i can definitely send the files. I know you're kind of up on the game, but as I say it's possible (and probably best) to go back a bit if someone does want to take over.

Back from my appointment now, will have dinner shortly and then finish off our belated turn. I need somebody distracting you, so that you can't put 110% into our game!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 8/17/2017 8:05:11 PM

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He's got a little baby!

How much more help do you want!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 8/17/2017 8:26:58 PM

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He's got a little baby!

How much more help do you want!

Seriously!

He just missed me today on 4-5 hours sleep with 4 night wakes to feed!! Shoulda finished that turn today!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 8/20/2017 8:23:30 AM

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GOING BACK IN TIME

Canoerebel (Dan) has decided to pick up the game and continue. It'll be fun and challenging, but also really good to get to know him better and his playing style from inside a game. Having been a follower for a very long time I'll be curious if I can decipher the misdirections, feints and subterfuge coming from the Allied side.

We've decided to go back to 3/43 to restart so he can take advantage of Joe's (Sqz) good work taking Rabaul and organising forces and logistics (which were a mess in late 43 when he took over) and so Dan can direct the Allies wherever he wants in mid-44.

He has just sent back a turn, so quick! I'll be upgrading the patch to current and then getting back into it. So strange to have to revisit my own previous position, but I guess a chance to do some things better based on hindsight too.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 8/20/2017 2:02:25 PM

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GOING BACK IN TIME

Canoe rebel (Dan) has decided to pick up the game and continue. It'll be fun and challenging, but more really good to get to know him better.

We've decided to go back to 3/43 to restart so he can take advantage of Joe's (Sqz) good work taking Rabaul and organising forces and logistics (which were a mess in late 43 when he took over) and so Dan can direct the Allies wherever he wants in mid-44.

He has just sent back a turn, so quick! I'll be upgrading the patch to current and then getting back into it. So strange to have to revisit my own previous position, but I guess a chance to do some things better based on hindsight too.

Well, well, well. All is good!

Obvert was kind enough to send me the game files from various dates, and lot of the Allied struggle recently became obvious to me. I was thinking on pointing some of this out to Squez, but I fear it would be taken the wrong way.

Anyhow, jumping back in time, like this goes to Michael's idea of having a game played till say June of 1942 and then a 2nd game is started with a different Allied player (or Japanese for that matter) to see how the game can develop down entirely separate paths from the same starting point mid game.

This will be fascinating. Good luck, I think you might need it.

Here is hoping that you have super fast turnaround, so that I don't feel bad about my slow turnaround.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 8/20/2017 6:51:09 PM

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Glad to hear Dan picked up the game Erik. Have fun finishing your game up.

Once again, thanks for your understanding and apologies for not being able to finish the game. It's in better hands now though.

Off to get back in the modelling.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 8/20/2017 8:50:51 PM

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Glad to see this will be continued. I will be following this.

The thread title is getting rather long

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 8/20/2017 10:49:41 PM

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Glad to hear Dan picked up the game Erik. Have fun finishing your game up.

Once again, thanks for your understanding and apologies for not being able to finish the game. It's in better hands now though.

Off to get back in the modelling.

It's been great playing and talking over the last years Joe. Lets keep up the conversation and I want to see some pics of those models!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 8/20/2017 10:50:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: Drakanel

Glad to see this will be continued. I will be following this.

The thread title is getting rather long

Yes.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 8/21/2017 11:56:04 PM

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Canoerebel is winding up a game that is in early 45 so he should be well accomplished at this stage of mid late game possibilities. Good luck to you both and enjoy.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 8/24/2017 9:45:29 PM

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Thanks. I'm itching to update but getting back to work and keeping up 1/day turns on two games has been tough. I'll get there though and get into this one. It's starting slowly as Dan gets his head around things.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 8/25/2017 12:02:17 AM

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In its own twisted way this game is already a classic

Good luck and have fun.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/1/2017 10:25:11 AM

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ORIGINAL: Gr�fin Zeppelin

In its own twisted way this game is already a classic

Good luck and have fun.

Thanks Grafin!

Its true, it's been an epic on several levels, for me at least. I'm determined to finish well, although I know it will be daunting against CR. He's already used to the endgame and has some limitations removed in this game not having Stacking Limits and not having a boosted Japanese OOB. So I'm in for it, and probably quite soon!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/1/2017 10:43:33 AM

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March 1-12, 1944

REBOOT: So the game has been restarted to an earlier date. March 1. Dan has been reorganising, personalising and I'm sure envisioning the Allied position. He's communicated a bit, but not much about the game other than he was happy with the progress and positioning of the Allied forces. He is an optimist, but also a realist, and will notice some advantages about this game in particular.

1. No stacking limits. This enables the Allies to land anywhere and overwhelm Japanese forces. So he'll pick his spots well, and with strategic intent, I'm sure.

2. Lots of planes in the pools and troops undiminished by combat. The air forces for the Allies have been only used sporadically, and there are a lot of advanced models to work with in abundance. Mostly in the So Pac and Burma areas for now.

3. Good positions in the Pacific. Wake, Rabaul New Guinea. The Aleutians. Some great bases to work from are available since the Japanese constricted the original plans after losing the KB early. The fleet should be in good shape too, even after losing a few CVs sunk and damaged near Rabaul.

BURMA: In Burma Dan began by moving out of jungle lockdown. He's shifted troops to the central valleys and looks to be on the move in general. Only a few air skirmishes to report. He is moving to take Bassein right next to Rabaul with some Chinese and African troops. I've bombed them but won't interfere. That is a tough base to utilise,and I should have some opportunities to shut it down if taken. It's not defendable in clear territory though.

CENT PAC: No moves here yet.

SW PAC: The Allies are following on some plans in place, clearing west New Guinea bases, and look to be moving on Merauke. This is consistent with what Sqz had in place. Rabaul, though, which had 200k + troops, is being emptied. This makes me think the axis of advance with shift. I have a few thoughts on where he'll choose to go, but I have to look carefully and send out some feelers before I can be sure. Lets just say we're ordering lots of fur-lined mittens and all weather parkas.

Rabual on the 7th and on the 13th. Where are those troops going?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/3/2017 8:44:54 AM

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March 13-17, 1944

SUBS: The Allies look to be sending subs out into Japanese air and sea space much more aggressively. I've now increased the ASW air from bases in the Marianas, Babeldaob and NW New Guinea. It'll be hard going for them, but hopefully he'll have enough success to push more forward just in time for my new Super E boats to arrive in the area.

BURMA: The Allies cross and take Bassein. Now comes the tricky part. Do they move to support and get all of those nice Marines and Commenwealth troops into the area around Rangoon?

We're planning to hit the fields and reduce supply and building efforts at Bassein, but of course, once enough A gets in here, that will be much harder to do. Can he get supply in to support all of those troops?

CENT PAC: A few more bases being snapped up. Ho Hum. All Japanese troops are being finally evacuated from any island East of Ponape. I'll keep a naval guard at Eniweitok actually, but that is a token resistance.

SW PAC: The Allies land at Merauke with minimal force, but will still take the base. Not much here. There is in fact a clear path to the DEI, but it's not easy to see from the Allied side just yet, I'm hoping. The IJN is in position tot react to a number of threats, and it'll be important to have time to find the most dangerous ones. Lots of troops arrive in about two months, and I'll need them to solidify a number of areas.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 13, 44
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Ground combat at Merauke (89,124)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2372 troops, 82 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 34

Defending force 996 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Allied adjusted assault: 14

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th RAA Coastal Artillery Regiment
2nd RAA Jungle Regiment
11th Marine Defense Battalion
G/H Battery Heavy Coastal Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
40th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Bassein (54,52)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 42489 troops, 438 guns, 158 vehicles, Assault Value = 1270

Defending force 2321 troops, 18 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 85

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 376

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 75 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Bassein !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
755 casualties reported
Squads: 67 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 19 (15 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
144 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
11th (East African) Division
3rd New Chinese Corps
Y' Force

Defending units:
1st RTA/B Division
21st Fld AA Gun Co
85th JAAF AF Coy

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A shot of lots of Allied troops on the move. Easy to see that the situation in Burma is changing rapidly.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/3/2017 12:23:03 PM

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I was already reading Canoerebel's A AT of this fight. So happy I found this companion. I feel like I get watch/read a heavy weight title fight and know what's going on in each corner. Good luck Obvert. Count me as subscribed.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/3/2017 3:45:07 PM

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I was already reading Canoerebel's A AT of this fight. So happy I found this companion. I feel like I get watch/read a heavy weight title fight and know what's going on in each corner. Good luck Obvert. Count me as subscribed.

Once we really get going and there is some action, I'll update more regularly. So far it's a lot going on behind the scenes.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/3/2017 3:49:52 PM

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If I were you, I would re-examine your r&d, if you haven't already.

Other than that, you know what to do. You have been here before.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/9/2017 7:26:50 AM

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If I were you, I would re-examine your r&d, if you haven't already.

Other than that, you know what to do. You have been here before.

The only thing I'll do to RnD is not add the late late war planes like I did last time. It'll be a waste of 120k supplies.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/9/2017 11:48:00 AM

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March 18-23 1944

CENT PAC: It is a bit strange having been through this part of he game before. Some things are qutie different, like Burma. Others very much the same, like the Central Pacific, where Dan has started to fill in the space I've left.

SUBS: Allied subs are doing some damage. Dan is not hesitating to push them right forward. Extra air ASW units are being added and I'm guessing a lot of those will be heading back home soon to patch up their dings.

BURMA: With Bassein taken I have to be very careful here at Prome. Troops are filtering back from Taung Gyi and that base will be abandoned soon. Once the Thai units slink back to their homeland there will be a general constriction of forces here. That is if Dan doesn't try something first. All of those troops leaving the plains don't seem to be moving forward toward Bassein. So that means one thing. They are heading for ships.

Dan tried a night bombing raid at Toungoo that did some real damage. This came after a raid on the 17th against Pisanoloke where he did get a bunch of Helens on the ground for virtually no losses. Toungou though has a lot of AA, and the B-24s also suffered. Looks like 12-15 lost on the raid for about 15 fighters destroyed on the ground, plus another 10 damaged. The only hard part here is losing pilots. Ground bombing kills very good pilots.

Dan is trying to test me here as he knows I think night bombing airfields is overpowered, hence the HR on less than 50 planes against any one airfield/port target at night. Because of how the game works even 25-50 hitting a big base can cause significant damage, so AA becomes really important. Bu this is more of a psychological test for me. It's the first thing he's tried to ruffle my feathers. There will be a lot more!

In this case, I'll do nothing, but I do have some NF around, so he'll find some surprises in critical bases, and the attrition of HB aiframes/pilots is more critical for the Allies than IJAAF pilots/airframes right now.

SW PAC: Nothing happening here. Dan is still pulling troops out. I'm doing the same by air and will begin to release larger units soon to rear positions. Hollandia and Sarmi are the major troop concentrations. Soon they'll be held by a few naval guards only.

I wiped out a small unit at Wessel Islands. No big deal. Always feels good though!

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 22, 44
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Night Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed on ground
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 15 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 2000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 2000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 2000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 2000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/9/2017 12:17:29 PM

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March 24-26, 1944

SUBS: The Sitskrieg means one thing; Dan is shifting to a new axis of attack. I've decided to send out all Glen equipped boats to monitor deep areas of Allied territory to potentially get eyes on some movements. The area between Cent Pac and the Aleutians is particularly patrolled, plus some parts of the IO and near OZ.

Allied subs continue to be aggressive. One Dutch sub hits and sinks a Super-E, but it's escort partner puts three direct shots back onto the sub, so that should be it for another Dutch boat. In terms of VPs it's a great trade, but for opportunity cost I want all of the E boats I can get right now. They just seem to slowly trickle in.

BURMA: Finally on the 26th Dan sends in the top guns. He used B-24s to bomb Toungou again, but only about 20. I'm guessing he set more, but they didn't make it to the base. They hit a few airframes but the bulk of the fighters were ready for the day phase and itching for some actual combat.

The low layered CAP does its job here. It's always fun to see a Spit VIII group get all chewed to hell. Out of 16 I think 4 made it back to base!

The P-47D2 didn't fare much better, and it wasn't until the last few sweeps when the CAP wore down that a group of P-38s got the better of them. On the day losses are about even, but of course the pilot losses won't be close. We lost about 11 KIA and 8 WIA on the day. I'm thinking it'll be worse for the Allies over our base. Fun to watch, and we're still in good shape for the next day if he comes again. He did send one group of P-40N5 which were crushed.

Another positive for this day is that the bulk of the defenders were Tojos. It's nearing the time when this airframe will be pulled from frontline duty, and I already have some Ki-100 making their way into the area. More and better Franks are on the way and the second generation Jacks and Georges are beginning to fill out groups as well. So doing this well with Tojos is a good sign. I'm curious about Dan's response. He doesn't talk tactics, pilot training, and settings details often in his AARs and rarely shows much of the combat reports, so I can now start to get a better feel for what he'll do, how he'll react, and his skill with the nuts and bolts of the game.

He is a resourceful player, and he will adjust, so this is a great test for the low CAP tactic in the late war. We have a long cat and mouse ahead that is only just beginning with this turn.

CENT PAC: Subs move in and already spot some moving pieces of naval assets, an AV and some AKEs transferring ... somewhere.

SW PAC: Nothing going. After the strike in Burma I've culled every non-Frank/George group for top pilots and replaced these groups with 55-60 exp guys who can fly CAP down here and get some exp gain until something happens. Same of rite Marianas, HI and China groups. I've flush with trained IJAAF pilots, but the IJNAF fighter pools are thin right now. I'm not worried since about 1/3 of the groups leave in July, and a lot are coming through training on map soon.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 26, 44
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Night Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed on ground
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 41
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 95
Ki-84a Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 13 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 41010.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
Junyo-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
24th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 40
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 85
Ki-84a Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 40000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 38
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 75
Ki-84a Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 32
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 66
Ki-84a Frank x 10

Allied aircraft
P-40N5 Warhawk x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N5 Warhawk: 6 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 31
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 57
Ki-84a Frank x 10

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 13 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 41010.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
Junyo-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 41010.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
24th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 9 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 36740.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
50th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 34440.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 30
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 44
Ki-84a Frank x 8

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 35000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 22
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 62
Ki-84a Frank x 11

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 6 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 6 destroyed

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Not bad. I'll take it with a bunch of he best Allied pilots lost over the jungle.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/9/2017 2:31:20 PM

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I think Tojo IIc will work the rest of the game as the lowest level of a layered CAP defense...especially if the defense is over 70. I haven't been impressed with Ki100 as the lowest layer ...they just can't dance. They seem to work better at 7 and 9 and still they are never as good as Franks.

Of course if this is Symon's air mod maybe that is different.

What are your night fighters like?

Already, see lots of difference from Squeeze. The morale hit on your fighters from low level night bombing hurts too.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/9/2017 7:10:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I think Tojo IIc will work the rest of the game as the lowest level of a layered CAP defense...especially if the defense is over 70. I haven't been impressed with Ki100 as the lowest layer ...they just can't dance. They seem to work better at 7 and 9 and still they are never as good as Franks.

Of course if this is Symon's air mod maybe that is different.

What are your night fighters like?

Already, see lots of difference from Squeeze. The morale hit on your fighters from low level night bombing hurts too.

I agree the Ki-100 doesn't work as well low. The Jack does though. And the George. The Oscar is best. So I usually use the Ki-100 at 7k. Maybe the Tojo will continue to be fine, we'll see. I need some service 1 planes, so I'll definitely keep trying them. I have a lot of them around, too!

This is just stock, so no Symon's extras.

NF are good, coming through slowly, so right now just the Irving. Got a few groups moving into the area in the next few turns. Some at Rangoon now.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/10/2017 2:51:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I think Tojo IIc will work the rest of the game as the lowest level of a layered CAP defense...especially if the defense is over 70. I haven't been impressed with Ki100 as the lowest layer ...they just can't dance. They seem to work better at 7 and 9 and still they are never as good as Franks.

Of course if this is Symon's air mod maybe that is different.

What are your night fighters like?

Already, see lots of difference from Squeeze. The morale hit on your fighters from low level night bombing hurts too.

I agree the Ki-100 doesn't work as well low. The Jack does though. And the George. The Oscar is best. So I usually use the Ki-100 at 7k. Maybe the Tojo will continue to be fine, we'll see. I need some service 1 planes, so I'll definitely keep trying them. I have a lot of them around, too!

This is just stock, so no Symon's extras.

NF are good, coming through slowly, so right now just the Irving. Got a few groups moving into the area in the next few turns. Some at Rangoon now.

I re-started my Tojo IIc production because I came to the same conclusion by feel as well.

I'm keeping the Ki-100 going, though - it seems to kill bombers better.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/10/2017 3:11:53 PM

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I'm keeping the Ki-100 going, though - it seems to kill bombers better.

Agree, but the tricky part is getting the Ki100's into the fighters. When it happens, it is glorious as those cl cannons chew thru the bombers while the durable frame can absorb a fair bit of punishment, unlike the Oscar IV.

Also, the Tony makes for a great ship LRCAP platform...especially when the Allies can't sweep first.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Canoerebel (A) - 9/19/2017 8:41:18 PM

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March 27-April 6, 1944

GAME: Well, we've hit a slow period. Literally several days in a row without so much as an ASW action. I don't think much will happen until Dan starts to show his cards for the next stage. He will test, poke, jab, but there will be little regular action. That means I need to be even more vigilant about looking deeply into possible invasion paths.

The combat reports below give a picture of how slow the game is right now.

BURMA: A few isolated air raids. They hurt for the Allies. Our flak is good in Burma. But this is not important. He'll prepare to land behind Burma soon. Once prep is ready. I'm starting to transition units back already, but really I'm waiting for the new troops that are coming in the next month. A massive reinforcement. Hopefully just in time.

CENT PAC: Bases are being gradually snapped up. Marcus is back to forts 6. The Marianas are tough. I think he'll not come here though.

SW PAC: Still nothing happening and units transitioning away.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 27, 44
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 28, 44
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Afternoon Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 15
N1K1-J George x 45
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 61
Ki-84a Frank x 25

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 29, 44
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 30, 44
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ASW attack near Enderbury Island at 156,142

Japanese Ships
SS I-2

Allied Ships
SC PC-783
SC PC-598
SC PC-597

SS I-2 is located by SC PC-783

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ASW attack near Enderbury Island at 156,142

Japanese Ships
SS I-2, hits 4

Allied Ships
SC PC-598
SC PC-597
SC PC-783

SS I-2 is sighted by escort

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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
B-25H Mitchell x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 11 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25D1 Mitchell: 7 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25H Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11
B-25D1 Mitchell x 32
P-38H Lightning x 14

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 7 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 42

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 16
B-24D1 Liberator x 12
B-24J Liberator x 6

Allied aircraft losses
A-20G Havoc: 3 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24D1 Liberator: 11 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 16

Allied aircraft losses
A-20G Havoc: 8 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 7000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR April 2, 44
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR April 3, 44
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR April 4, 44
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR April 5, 44
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Morning Air attack on 31st Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 59,48 (Taung Gyi)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 9
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25D Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
B-25C Mitchell x 16

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR April 6, 44
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 9/26/2017 7:39:40 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert

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ORIGINAL: Drakanel

I find these posts very informative. They also show that in order to play as japan well it's really necessary to have the tracker. Too many details are not apparent from the game UI.

The difference between a 11 fuel/day model and 60 fuel/day model is HUGE. Even supposing the ship is not used all the time, and that consumption is slightly less than what is shown here, it's a difference of several thousand fuel over a year, for a single ship.

For japan, that's really important....

Also, very good strikes on those convoy in the previous update. That is some very interesting VP gain.

About that submarine, in my game as allies against the AI I think I had a sub shoot 8 torpedoes against an xAKL. 6 misses and 2 duds.

Thanks Drakanel. I try to share learning when I can. I was inspired by Lokasenna's 'master class' posts a few days ago detailing how to better read the replay and other info. None of us is a smart as all of us, as this forum consistently proves.

So for running a Hirashima class for a year non-stop I am paying 29,200 fuel instead of a Shimushu/Etorofu at 5,475!! Since I have 9 Hirashima doing this I've used 262,800 fuel instead of 49,275! That is huge. The trouble is I only have a few of those good efficient Es before 44, and I also don't want to lose more tankers, but running the 15-20 knot SC would still be hugely more efficient at 78,840.

I've got 13 other very inefficient former CM class E running those routes for almost the same amounts. So I could maybe have saved an additional 350-400k in fuel just by not using those former CM class E at all.

I wonder what my costs are on the over-use of other classes, like the Ansyu-C PBs? I tend to send out TK/AO with as many as I can, sometimes equalling the number of tankers in the convoy, so I think I've wasted some serious fuel this way over the years.

Does anyone know how much less fuel a ship uses on a stationary patrol vs moving throughout both phases?

It I am reading through the AAR right now and was wondering if you still knew where these "master class" posts about watching the replays are located? I'm enjoying the read from both sides. It's looking like things are about to heat up in the Solomon's!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 9/26/2017 2:17:13 PM

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I may have titled Loka's posts master class, but I'm not sure you could find it searching for that.

I'd search for posts around the same date as this post in my AAR. Could have been main forum or in one of his AARs. Probably the game with Bullwinkle.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 9/26/2017 4:16:49 PM

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I may have titled Loka's posts master class, but I'm not sure you could find it searching for that.

I'd search for posts around the same date as this post in my AAR. Could have been main forum or in one of his AARs. Probably the game with Bullwinkle.

Um... I don't remember. Main forum maybe. It may have been its own thread.

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