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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/4/2018 7:38:18 PM   
SlabSheetrock

 

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Status: offline 		Can the battleship Novorossiysk be added to the Soviet surface ship roster?
Originally the Giulio Caesare, was transferred to the USSR in 1949. I kinda need it for an RP. The ship was planned on being refit with 12" guns, but sank before that could happen.

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/4/2018 7:42:57 PM   
SlabSheetrock

 

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Status: offline 		Adding on to this, the Andrea Doria class need to be added, they served in the MM until 1956. I know these won't be high on the priority list, but their inclusion would be enormously appreciated.

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/8/2018 6:41:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Overlord

Could you check the US FRAM gearings (and maybe the sumners as well) but their fuel consumption is way off...like 1 years worth of fuel...the Fletchers seem ok.

Also none of the FRAMs or Albany, Des Moines, Iowa etc have any UNREP capability.

Thanks!

Just checked the latest CWDB 473

Still there...Gearings etc. can steam at flank speed for 6 months.

Thanks!

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/10/2018 10:03:50 AM   
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/11/2018 2:31:28 PM   
Scorpion86

 

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Status: offline 		I've done some research regarding the Italian Starfighter variants, which concern both databases. In the interest of brevity, I'll just copy my findings from researching the operating and maintenance manuals here:

I was playing the “Albania Airstrike” scenario and I noticed the Interceptor version of the F-104S had a radar whose range was shorter than it’s missiles’ range. Moreover, the fighter-bomber had a much longer-ranged radar, which struck me as odd.

So I dug around for some information about the F-104S and I found some Maintenance Manuals that shed some light on the issue:

In page 13-4 of the manual (or page 187 of the pdf file) it says:

“a. Configurazione R21G/H NASARR per velivole AWX. In tale configurazione il radar opera congiuntamente all’impianto di comando e lancio missili AIM-7E (…).

b. Configurazione F15G/H NASARR per velivoli FB che no contempla l’impiego dell’impianto di comando e lancio missili AIM-7E.”

Translation:

"a. NASARR R21G/H configuration for AWX aircraft. In this configuration, the radar works together with the AIM-7E missile control and launching system (...).

b. F15G/H NASARR configuration for FB aircraft that does not include the use of AIM-7E missile control and launching system."

So, according to the maintenance manual, the Interceptor (AWX) version carried the R21G/H radar and the fighter-bomber (FB) version carried the F15G/H radar, not the other way around.

Also, according to page 13-5 of the manual (page 188 of the pdf file) all interceptor variants of the F-104S (AWX and ASA-CIO) carried an IR sight.

Finally, according to page 1-2 of the manual (15 of the pdf), only fighter-bomber variants (FB and ASA-CBO) carried an ECM suite: the FB variant carried the ALQ-70, while the ASA-CBO carried the updated ALQ-70/73. The cannon was only carried by fighter-bomber variants as well.

[P.S.: Would you be so kind as to consider some of the configuration detailed in page A1-6 (348 of the pdf) of the Flight Manual? The 2 wingtip tank + 2 underwing tank + 2 Sparrow/Aspide missiles configuration seems very interesting (and useful!), in particular.]

Considering this data, I suggest the following changes:

#2245 – F-104S Starfighter
- The F-104S version represented in this entry is a fighter-bomber, and as such, should have the EL-70 ECM/RWR suite and the NASARR F-15G radar instead of the R-21G/H.

#2823 – F-104S Starfighter CBO
- It should use FFAR rockets instead of HYDRA rockets.
- It should be capable of carrying 2 LAU-10/A rocket pods (4 ZUNI rockets each).
- The ground attack version of the F-104S used the NASARR F-15G radar, not the R-21G/H.
- This version should be renamed the F-104S/FB Starfighter.

#2105 – F-104S Starfighter CIO
- The interceptor version of the F-104S used the NASARR R-21G/H, not the F-15G.
- It should have an infrared sight.
- This version should be renamed the F-104S/AWX Starfighter.

Sources:
https://theaviationist.com/2009/04/21/f-104-versions-explained/
https://www.avialogs.com/aircraft-l/lockheed/item/55402-aer-1f-104s-asa-2-1-manuale-di-manutenzione-per-il-velivolo-f104s-informazioni-generali
https://www.avialogs.com/aircraft-l/lockheed/item/4377-aer1f-104s-asam-1-flight-manual-f-104s-asa-m-series-aircraft

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/14/2018 2:23:35 AM   
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/14/2018 3:55:17 AM   
Scorpion86

 

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Status: offline 		The AN/APQ-104 Radar

I was browsing the database when I noticed something odd: of the French Navy’s Crusaders, the oldest version has an immensely superior radar (the AN/APQ-94) than the later version’s radar (the AN/APQ-104). According to the information I was able to find, not only did the AN/APQ-94 never equip the French Crusaders (as it was unable to illuminate the R.530 SARH missile, the main armament of the French F-8E) but the AN/APQ-104 was an upgrade of the AN/APQ-94! However, it is markedly inferior.

Let’s compare the stats of both radars:

The AN/APQ-94 has a range of 50NM, is noted in the database as “Radar, FCR, Air-to-Air, Short-Range” and has the following Abilities: Late 1950’s Tech, Air Search, Range, Altitude, Speed, and Heading Information.

The AN/APQ-104, in contrast, has a range of 8NM (half of the range of it’s primary weapon), is noted in the database as “Radar, Range-Only” and has the following Abilities: Late 1970’s Tech, Air, Surface, and Ground (Fixed) Search, and Range Information.

The information I was able to find states that the AN/APQ-104 radar is an upgraded AN/APQ-94, capable of directing the R.530 missile, with a range of 60NM for navigation and 25NM for interception. It has also been in service since the first Crusaders were delivered to the French Navy in 1964.

I hope I’ve provided you with hard enough evidence in sufficient quantity to convince you to take action regarding this piece of equipment.

Additionally, in the sake of completeness, I’ll add some minor suggestions below to make the affected aircraft’s loadout historically accurate.

#668 – F-8E(FN) Crusader [Le Crouze]
- It should have the AN/APQ-104 radar instead of the AN/APQ-94.
- It should also carry the R.530 (IR) missile.

#2847 – F-8E(FN) Crusader [Le Crouze]
- It should also carry the R.530 (IR) missile.

Sources:
http://www.ffaa.net/aircraft/crusader/crusader.htm
http://www.joebaugher.com/navy_fighters/f8_16.html
http://www.crusader.gaetanmarie.com/articles/french/part1.htm
http://www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/jetds/an-apq.html

Thank you, once again, for your willingness to hear our comments and suggestions!

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/14/2018 9:38:45 AM   
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/14/2018 4:57:54 PM   
Broncepulido

 

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Status: offline 		On the same issue of Crusader radar, range of APQ-94 against a bomber size aircraft stated in the same site as 110 Km/59 nm, APQ-104 apparently very similar, only customized for French use:
http://www.crusader.gaetanmarie.com/articles/goebel/part1.htm

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/14/2018 7:22:41 PM   
TheOriginalOverlord

 

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Status: offline 		Hey Paul....

just wanted to say "thanks" for what you and the whole team does!



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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/15/2018 6:36:18 AM   
.Sirius


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ORIGINAL: Broncepulido

On the same issue of Crusader radar, range of APQ-94 against a bomber size aircraft stated in the same site as 110 Km/59 nm, APQ-104 apparently very similar, only customized for French use:
http://www.crusader.gaetanmarie.com/articles/goebel/part1.htm

Thanks will update as required


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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/15/2018 6:39:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Overlord

Hey Paul....

just wanted to say "thanks" for what you and the whole team does!



Thanks :) we try and do our best across the board but somethings things slip through but we do pick them up, database wise takes alot of research I normally work on cross reference three different sources before I commit to an update as we use public domain sources for what we do etc, the older platforms take abit more time due to the time frame ie 1950s etc

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/23/2018 3:37:48 PM   
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Please add Heavy Rocket loadout to RN Navy Phantom FG.1. 10 pods! This picture from 1972




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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/28/2018 4:25:47 AM   
Scorpion86

 

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Status: offline 		I want to start of by saying that I'm very grateful to .Sirius for implementing all my sugestions regarding the Portuguese Air Force. Unfortunately, I've found some mistakes. I don't want to sound like an entitled **** but I feel that way when I complain about the way someone did something for me without asking for nothing in return. Oh well, here it goes:

Mostly, the thing I've found was some aircraft had loadouts that were too heavy for them to carry. Allow me to elaborate:

F.95 Panoramic Camera

- Currently the F.95 is only capable of Surface Search. It should also have Ground Search (Fixed) and Ground Search (Mobile), as it was used in that function, historically.

#3727 – FIAT G.91 R/3 (’76-’93)

- Please remove the 4 x BL.755, 4 x Mk20 Rockeye, 4 x Mk77 Incendiary, SNEB 68mm and SNEB 68mm Long Range loadouts, as the first three are too heavy for the plane to take off and the last two use rockets that never entered service with the Portuguese Air Force
- Please add a 2 x Mk82 + 2 x 520l drop tank loadout
- Please add an “Internal Guns Only” loadout with 2 x 520l drop tanks for AAW missions
- The “100Kg GPB, Mk82 LDGP (BAI/CAS)” should have 4 x 50Kg GPB instead of 4 x 100Kg GPB. The current loadout is too heavy for the plane to take off.
- Please remove the ability for probe refuelling, as the G.91 didn’t have that capability.

#3728 – FIAT G.91 R/4 (’66-’93)

- The G.91R/4 had 4 x 12,7mm M2 Browning machine guns as main armament, not the 2 x 30mm DEFA 552 cannons
- Please remove the “AIM-9B Sidewinder” and “AIM-9B Sidewinder Long Range” loadouts, as the Portuguese G.91s were only fitted with AIM-9B launchers in 1981
- Please remove the 4 x BL.755, 4 x Mk20 Rockeye, 4 x Mk77 Incendiary, SNEB 68mm and SNEB 68mm Long Range loadouts, as the first three are too heavy for the plane to take off and the last two use rockets that never entered service with the Portuguese Air Force
- Please add a 2 x Mk82 + 2 x 520l drop tank loadout
- Please add an “Internal Guns Only” loadout with 2 x 520l drop tanks for AAW missions
- The “100Kg GPB, Mk82 LDGP (BAI/CAS)” should have 4 x 50Kg GPB instead of 4 x 100Kg GPB. The current loadout is too heavy for the plane to take off.
- Please remove the ability for probe refuelling, as the G.91 didn’t have that capability.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/2015/02/fiat-g91.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/fiat-perfil-de-armamento.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/perfil-do-fiat-2.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/perfil-do-fiat-3.html
http://asasdeferro.blogspot.pt/2017/07/fiat-g91-gina.html
http://www.airvectors.net/avamx.html
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/italy/fiat/g-91/gaf-to-1f-91-r3-1-flight-manual-g91-r3.html
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/italy/fiat/g-91/t-o-nato-1rf-g91-r4-2-1-technical-manual-organizational-maintenance-general-airplane-g91-r4.html

#44 – G.91 Gina

- The SNEB rocket loadout should have 38 rockets instead of 36 (2 x Matra 116M launchers with 19 rockets each)
- Please remove the ability for probe refuelling, as the G.91 didn’t have that capability.
- Please add a 2 x Mk82 + 2 x 520l drop tank loadout

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/italy/fiat/g-91/gaf-to-1f-91-r3-1-flight-manual-g91-r3.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNEB

#948, #2517, #2462, #2249, #2665, #2342, #2107, #1054, #1047, #2595, #3709, #1070, #2203, #1905, #2401, #1875, #2627, #878, #64, #2208, #1811 – F-86F Sabre

- Please remove the 4 x BLU-23/B, 4 x M64 500lbs GPB and 4 x Mk82 500lbs LDGP loadouts, as only the inboard stations of the F-86F could carry bombs
- Please consider removing the Mk82 LDGP and the Mk83 LDGP from this aircraft, as it could be anachronistic

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-86_Sabre
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/2015/02/f-86f-sabre.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2010/12/f-86-os-dias-do-sabre-m450-50al2010.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/item/56117.html

Also, regarding the Portuguese Alouette III, you added the "Lobo Mau" gunship with the 20mm cannon (#3706), but also with cargo and SAR loadouts. Is there any way to tie the gun to a specific loadout? Because the cannon platform occupied all cargo space of the Alouette III when it was used as a gunship (as you can see in this picture) so, when the chopper was used as a gunship, it couldn't carry personnel.
Maybe #3706 could remain with just a "Ground Attack" loadout and #1075 could remain the same, but with the "Maritime Surveilance" loadout removed (as it was never used by the Navy)?

Once again, thank you for your efforts and attention!

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 2/28/2018 10:51:46 AM   
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 3/4/2018 8:17:10 PM   
BDukes

 

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Status: offline 		Please Add UK Marconi S-600 System. Was used on Falklands in late 82 after fight and in UK since 1968. Mr. Ragnar make entry for Norway #930 in his data

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/120674730/MCATP%207-1968%20New%20mobile%20radar.pdf

Source http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/52557648/The%20Falklands%20Story

Please add for Oman

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/68427766/Oman%20Air%20Defence%20Radar%20System

Malaysia 1969

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/30050230/S600%20radar

Saudi Arabia 1972

http://www.radarpages.co.uk/download/p172.pdf

Yugoslavia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_Air_Force_and_Air_Defence

Looks like Kenya, Turkey, Thailand

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/36189315/Major%20achievements%20of%20Marconi%20Radar

Abu Dhabi/UAE: 1976

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/117429012/Abu%20Dhabi

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 3/7/2018 6:41:11 PM   
Scorpion86

 

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Status: offline 		I swear to christ this is the last time I'll talk about the G.91!

So I was thinking about the long range loadouts on the G.91 when I saw this picture:

As you can see, the 520l drop tanks are in the inner pylons and the 260l tanks are in the outer pylons. So when they're carrying 500lb bombs (which can only be carried in the inner pylons), they can only use 260l tanks.

Considering this, I ask of you (pretty please?):

For #3727 & #3728:

- Please change the fuel tanks in the “BL.755 No.1 CB Long Range”, “Mk20 Rockeye II CB Long Range” and “Mk77 500lb Incendiary Bomb Long Range” from a 520l drop tank to a 260l drop tank.
- Please change the fuel tank in the Mk82 500lb long range loadout I requested in my previous post from a 520l tank to a 260l tank.

For #44:

- Please change the fuel tank in the Mk82 500lb long range loadout I requested in my previous post from a 520l tank to a 260l tank.

Also, on a completely unrelated matter, I noticed a bug on all SB2C-5 Helldivers in the database:

#394, #1156, #2670, #1066, #2615, #3427, #3223 – SB2C-5 Helldiver
- The “M64 500lb GPB” loadout has Mk82 500lb bombs instead of the M64 bombs.

Thanks once again!

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 3/8/2018 8:06:20 PM   
BDukes

 

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Status: offline 		Please add China version of LA-11. Imported 163 La-11 fighters from 1950-1953. The last 18 La-11 airplanes retired in 1966.

Picture:https://www.pinterest.com/pin/9077636727404857/

Thank!

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 3/8/2018 9:22:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BDukes

Please Add UK Marconi S-600 System. Was used on Falklands in late 82 after fight and in UK since 1968. Mr. Ragnar make entry for Norway #930 in his data

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/120674730/MCATP%207-1968%20New%20mobile%20radar.pdf

Source http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/52557648/The%20Falklands%20Story

Please add for Oman

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/68427766/Oman%20Air%20Defence%20Radar%20System

Malaysia 1969

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/30050230/S600%20radar

Saudi Arabia 1972

http://www.radarpages.co.uk/download/p172.pdf

Yugoslavia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_Air_Force_and_Air_Defence

Looks like Kenya, Turkey, Thailand

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/36189315/Major%20achievements%20of%20Marconi%20Radar

Abu Dhabi/UAE: 1976

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/w/page/117429012/Abu%20Dhabi

updated

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 3/8/2018 9:24:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Scorpion86

I swear to christ this is the last time I'll talk about the G.91!

So I was thinking about the long range loadouts on the G.91 when I saw this picture:

As you can see, the 520l drop tanks are in the inner pylons and the 260l tanks are in the outer pylons. So when they're carrying 500lb bombs (which can only be carried in the inner pylons), they can only use 260l tanks.

Considering this, I ask of you (pretty please?):

For #3727 & #3728:

- Please change the fuel tanks in the “BL.755 No.1 CB Long Range”, “Mk20 Rockeye II CB Long Range” and “Mk77 500lb Incendiary Bomb Long Range” from a 520l drop tank to a 260l drop tank.
- Please change the fuel tank in the Mk82 500lb long range loadout I requested in my previous post from a 520l tank to a 260l tank.

For #44:

- Please change the fuel tank in the Mk82 500lb long range loadout I requested in my previous post from a 520l tank to a 260l tank.

Also, on a completely unrelated matter, I noticed a bug on all SB2C-5 Helldivers in the database:

#394, #1156, #2670, #1066, #2615, #3427, #3223 – SB2C-5 Helldiver
- The “M64 500lb GPB” loadout has Mk82 500lb bombs instead of the M64 bombs.

Thanks once again!

no problems all updated

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 3/27/2018 7:54:35 AM   
SunlitZelkova

 

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Status: offline 		A few requests for Chinese attack/bomber aircraft-

Nanchang Q-5Jia -- China (Air Force), 1970, Few built

Armed with a choice of either 20kt, 15kt, or 8kt tactical nuclear weapons, presumably still capable of carrying the conventional munitions of the standard Q-5. It uses the loft bombing technique exclusively in delivery of nuclear weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanchang_Q-5
https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/china/q-5.htm
Page 102 of this- https://fas.org/nuke/guide/china/Book2006.pdf

H-5A Beagle -- China (Air Force), Nuclear bomber

This would carry either a 20kt, 15kt, or 8kt nuclear weapon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-28#Chinese_variants
Page 102 of this- https://fas.org/nuke/guide/china/Book2006.pdf

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 3/27/2018 3:08:57 PM   
Scorpion86

 

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I started out researching the Portuguese Neptunes, but as I came upon more and more information, I started gathering data about more and more variants of the Neptune, eventually encompassing all variants used by foreign countries (and the P2V-4).

The following is the sum total of my research, as close to reality as I could discover. Firstly you have the characteristics and loadouts of each version, and then you have the versions each country used, with the corresponding database numbers (referred to as DB#).

In that list, I took the liberty of reassigning some numbers when a certain country had too many entries for the versions it had fielded and the other had not enough.

In other cases, the reassigned numbers were of "fictitious" entries: Chile never fielded the Neptune, and France never fielded the P2V-5 (though it fielded the P2V-6 and the P2V-7), so I reassigned those numbers.

I hope you find this research useful!

Enjoy!

KA-17 Panoramic Camera
- Currently the KA-17 is only capable of Surface Search. It should also have Ground Search (Fixed) and Ground Search (Mobile).

AN/APS-20
- From page 141 of the P2V-5F Flight Handbook (page 167 of the pdf file):
“As a search radar, it can detect a small aircraft (…) up to 65 miles, a medium sized plane (…) up to 85 miles, or a ship the size of a destroyer at (…) 200 miles.” (I do not know if they mean nautical miles or regular ones, though.)
- From page 147 of the P2V-5F Flight Handbook (page 173 of the pdf file):
“The AN/APS-20 radar is (…) capable of scanning through 360 degrees for a map type presentation of land masses, ships, and aircraft.”
- Considering the above, the AN/APS-20 radar should have “Air Search” and a 360 degree coverage.
- In earlier versions, the AN/APS-20 was capable of search, but not of targeting. That is why the P2V-4 and early versions of the P2V-5 had an AN/APS-31 radar installed, for air-to-ground and air-to-air targeting and ranging.

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eda-1-flight-handbook-p2v-5f-aircraft.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eeb-1-flight-manual-p2v-7-aircraft.html

P2V-4 (P-2D) Neptune

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20A
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-5A
ESM: AN/APR-9 with AN/APA-69 direction finder and AN/APA-64A signal analyser
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has solid nose with 6 forward-firing 20mm M24 cannons, twin 20mm M24 cannon tail turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 4 Mk. 24 or Mk. 34 torpedoes
Can carry up to 6 500 lbs. bombs/mines
Can carry up to 4 1000 lbs. bombs/mines
Can carry 2 1600 lbs./2000 lbs. bombs/mines

Fuel:
Permanent: 3000 USGal
Wingtip tanks: 600 USGal
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
 
Suggested loadouts (P2V-4):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 4 Mk24/Mk34 torpedoes
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 2 Mk24/Mk34 torpedoes
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 6 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 3 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 2 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 6 500 lbs Mk19 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 4 1000 lbs Mk36 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs Mk25 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 3 500 lbs Mk19 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 2 1000 lbs Mk36 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
P2V-5 (P-2E) Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early)

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20C
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31A
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret, twin 20mm M24 cannon tail turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)

P2V-5 (P-2E) Neptune (ASW configuration, early)

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20C
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31A
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR none
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
 
P2V-5 (P-2E) Neptune (ASW configuration, late)

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR none
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)

P2V-5F Neptune

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20C
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31A
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)
 
P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (Minelayer configuration)

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-33B (360º coverage)
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret, twin 20mm M24 cannon tail turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)

P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (ASW configuration)

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-33B (360º coverage)
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
 
Suggested loadouts (P2V-5/F and P2V-6):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 8 Mk54 depth charge (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, internal only
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 8 Mk54 depth charge (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 8 Mk54 depth charges (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, internal only
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, long-range
- 8 Mk54 depth charges
- 8 Mk54 depth charges (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)
 
Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs Mk50 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs Mk52 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 4 2000 lbs Mk55 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs Mk50 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs Mk52 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 2000 lbs, long-range
- 2 2000 lbs Mk55 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
P2V-5FS (SP-2E) Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/ALR-8 with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
AN/ALR-3
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)

P2V-7S (SP-2H) Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: Aero 7A
ESM: AN/ALR-8 with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
AN/ALR-3
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 3010 USGal (18060 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-32W (3400 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)
 
P2V-7B Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has solid nose with 4 forward-firing 20mm M24 cannons
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2980 USGal (17880 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-32W (3400 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)

P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 12,7mm M2 Browning deck turret (optional)
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2980 USGal (17880 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-32W (3400 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)
 
Suggested loadouts (P2V-7 and P2V-7B):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, internal only
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, internal only
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, heavy
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, long-range
- 8 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets
 
Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs Mk50 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs Mk52 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 4 2000 lbs Mk55 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs Mk50 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs Mk52 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 2000 lbs, long-range
- 2 2000 lbs Mk55 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
Suggested loadouts (SP-2E and SP-2H):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 8 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, internal only
- 8 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, heavy
- 8 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 torpedoes (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 torpedoes (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, internal only
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, heavy
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys
 
ASW, depth charges, long-range
- 8 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs Mk50 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs Mk52 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 4 2000 lbs Mk55 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs Mk50 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs Mk52 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 2000 lbs, long-range
- 2 2000 lbs Mk55 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
US Navy
#570, #571 - P2V-4
#2015, #2018, #3091 - P2V-5 (maybe convert one of these to SP-2E?)
#583, #586, #588 - P2V-6
#235, #558, #591 - P2V-7 (maybe convert one of these to SP-2H?)

Argentina
#2009? - P2V-5 Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early) (ex-RAF, reused Chilean Neptune DB#)
#2010 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) with deck turret (ex-RAF)
#3541 - SP-2E without deck turret
#2895 - SP-2H

Australia
#232 - P2V-5 Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early)
#562 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) with deck turret
#589 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) without deck turret
#594? - P2V-5F (reused Canadian Neptune DB#)
#2367? - SP-2H (reused Japanese Neptune DB#)

Brazil
#2040, #3041, #3542 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) without turrets (ex-RAF, two DB# are redundant)

Canada
#592 - P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune without deck turret

France
#233 - P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (Minelayer configuration)
#561 - P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (ASW configuration)
#581 - P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune without deck turret
#2011? - SP-2H (reused French Neptune DB#)

Great Britain
#2017 - P2V-5 Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early)
#2012? - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) with deck turret (reused French Neptune DB#)

Japan
#2368 - P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune with deck turret
#2369 - SP-2H

Netherlands
#234 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, late) with nose and deck turrets
#563 - P2V-7B
#590 - SP-2H

Portugal
#2013 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, late) with deck turret (ex-MLD)
#2014 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, late) without deck turret (ex-MLD)
 
Sources:
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a597432.pdf
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/neptune_ssq2.html
http://www.hartshorn.us/Navy/navy-mines.htm
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMUS_Mines.php
http://www.enginehistory.org/Piston/Wright/C-WPerformance.pdf
https://maritime.org/doc/jolie/part2.htm
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/naval-aviation-history/naval-aircraft/patrol-aircraft/p2v-4-neptune-korea.html
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/naval-aviation-history/naval-aircraft/patrol-aircraft/p2v-5-neptune-korea.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eda-1-flight-handbook-p2v-5f-aircraft.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eeb-1-flight-manual-p2v-7-aircraft.html
https://p2vneptune.nl/Manual's/index.html
https://p2vneptune.com/i01.shtml
http://www.verslo.is/baldur/p2/main.htm
http://www.emfa.pt/www/album-021.004.036-p2v-5-neptune
https://altimagem.blogspot.pt/2014/01/94-lockheed-p2v-5-neptune-primeira-parte.html
https://altimagem.blogspot.pt/2014/01/94a-lockheed-p2v-5-neptune-segunda-parte.html
http://ultimas-curiosidades.blogspot.pt/2012/04/guerra-colonial-p2v-5-neptuno-no.html
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/neptune.html
https://www.taringa.net/posts/info/882717/Histo-Aeronaval-Argentina-Lockheed-P2V5-Neptune.html
http://www.histarmar.com.ar/Armada%20Argentina/AviacionNaval/AS-Neptune.htm
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a129110.pdf
http://avions-de-la-guerre-d-algerie.over-blog.com/article-lockheed-p2v6-neptune-marine-46553977.html
http://www.ffaa.net/aircraft/neptune/neptune.htm
http://www.rudnei.cunha.nom.br/FAB/en/p-15.html
http://www.adastron.com/lockheed/neptune/neplist.htm
http://www.karo-aviation.nl/photo/RNLAF/pages/SP-2H%20Neptune%20MLD.htm

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SSM Silo (DF-4 [CSS-3]) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 1975, Early deployment

SSM Silo (DF-5 [CSS-4 Mod-1]) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 1975, Early deployment

Technically, all of these missiles are outside of the CWDBs timeline, but had the Cultural Revolution not occured, they would have been deployed early.

The technical data is already in the DB3000, so hopefully these will be easy to implement. Thank you for spending your time to manage this database!

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/2/2018 12:08:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Scorpion86

I may have a little bit of OCD.

I started out researching the Portuguese Neptunes, but as I came upon more and more information, I started gathering data about more and more variants of the Neptune, eventually encompassing all variants used by foreign countries (and the P2V-4).

The following is the sum total of my research, as close to reality as I could discover. Firstly you have the characteristics and loadouts of each version, and then you have the versions each country used, with the corresponding database numbers (referred to as DB#).

In that list, I took the liberty of reassigning some numbers when a certain country had too many entries for the versions it had fielded and the other had not enough.

In other cases, the reassigned numbers were of "fictitious" entries: Chile never fielded the Neptune, and France never fielded the P2V-5 (though it fielded the P2V-6 and the P2V-7), so I reassigned those numbers.

I hope you find this research useful!

Enjoy!

KA-17 Panoramic Camera
- Currently the KA-17 is only capable of Surface Search. It should also have Ground Search (Fixed) and Ground Search (Mobile).

AN/APS-20
- From page 141 of the P2V-5F Flight Handbook (page 167 of the pdf file):
“As a search radar, it can detect a small aircraft (…) up to 65 miles, a medium sized plane (…) up to 85 miles, or a ship the size of a destroyer at (…) 200 miles.” (I do not know if they mean nautical miles or regular ones, though.)
- From page 147 of the P2V-5F Flight Handbook (page 173 of the pdf file):
“The AN/APS-20 radar is (…) capable of scanning through 360 degrees for a map type presentation of land masses, ships, and aircraft.”
- Considering the above, the AN/APS-20 radar should have “Air Search” and a 360 degree coverage.
- In earlier versions, the AN/APS-20 was capable of search, but not of targeting. That is why the P2V-4 and early versions of the P2V-5 had an AN/APS-31 radar installed, for air-to-ground and air-to-air targeting and ranging.

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eda-1-flight-handbook-p2v-5f-aircraft.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eeb-1-flight-manual-p2v-7-aircraft.html

P2V-4 (P-2D) Neptune

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20A
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-5A
ESM: AN/APR-9 with AN/APA-69 direction finder and AN/APA-64A signal analyser
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has solid nose with 6 forward-firing 20mm M24 cannons, twin 20mm M24 cannon tail turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 4 Mk. 24 or Mk. 34 torpedoes
Can carry up to 6 500 lbs. bombs/mines
Can carry up to 4 1000 lbs. bombs/mines
Can carry 2 1600 lbs./2000 lbs. bombs/mines

Fuel:
Permanent: 3000 USGal
Wingtip tanks: 600 USGal
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
 
Suggested loadouts (P2V-4):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 4 Mk24/Mk34 torpedoes
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 2 Mk24/Mk34 torpedoes
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 6 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 3 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 2 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 6 500 lbs Mk19 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 4 1000 lbs Mk36 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs Mk25 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 3 500 lbs Mk19 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 2 1000 lbs Mk36 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
P2V-5 (P-2E) Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early)

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20C
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31A
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret, twin 20mm M24 cannon tail turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)

P2V-5 (P-2E) Neptune (ASW configuration, early)

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20C
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31A
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR none
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
 
P2V-5 (P-2E) Neptune (ASW configuration, late)

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR none
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)

P2V-5F Neptune

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20C
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31A
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)
 
P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (Minelayer configuration)

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-33B (360º coverage)
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret, twin 20mm M24 cannon tail turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)

P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (ASW configuration)

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-33B (360º coverage)
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
 
Suggested loadouts (P2V-5/F and P2V-6):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 8 Mk54 depth charge (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, internal only
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 8 Mk54 depth charge (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 8 Mk54 depth charges (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, internal only
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, long-range
- 8 Mk54 depth charges
- 8 Mk54 depth charges (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)
 
Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs Mk50 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs Mk52 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 4 2000 lbs Mk55 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs Mk50 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs Mk52 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 2000 lbs, long-range
- 2 2000 lbs Mk55 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
P2V-5FS (SP-2E) Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/ALR-8 with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
AN/ALR-3
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)

P2V-7S (SP-2H) Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: Aero 7A
ESM: AN/ALR-8 with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
AN/ALR-3
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 3010 USGal (18060 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-32W (3400 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)
 
P2V-7B Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has solid nose with 4 forward-firing 20mm M24 cannons
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2980 USGal (17880 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-32W (3400 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)

P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 12,7mm M2 Browning deck turret (optional)
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2980 USGal (17880 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-32W (3400 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)
 
Suggested loadouts (P2V-7 and P2V-7B):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, internal only
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, internal only
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, heavy
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, long-range
- 8 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets
 
Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs Mk50 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs Mk52 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 4 2000 lbs Mk55 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs Mk50 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs Mk52 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 2000 lbs, long-range
- 2 2000 lbs Mk55 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
Suggested loadouts (SP-2E and SP-2H):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 8 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, internal only
- 8 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, heavy
- 8 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 torpedoes (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 torpedoes (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, internal only
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, heavy
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys
 
ASW, depth charges, long-range
- 8 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs Mk50 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs Mk52 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 4 2000 lbs Mk55 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs Mk50 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs Mk52 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 2000 lbs, long-range
- 2 2000 lbs Mk55 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
US Navy
#570, #571 - P2V-4
#2015, #2018, #3091 - P2V-5 (maybe convert one of these to SP-2E?)
#583, #586, #588 - P2V-6
#235, #558, #591 - P2V-7 (maybe convert one of these to SP-2H?)

Argentina
#2009? - P2V-5 Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early) (ex-RAF, reused Chilean Neptune DB#)
#2010 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) with deck turret (ex-RAF)
#3541 - SP-2E without deck turret
#2895 - SP-2H

Australia
#232 - P2V-5 Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early)
#562 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) with deck turret
#589 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) without deck turret
#594? - P2V-5F (reused Canadian Neptune DB#)
#2367? - SP-2H (reused Japanese Neptune DB#)

Brazil
#2040, #3041, #3542 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) without turrets (ex-RAF, two DB# are redundant)

Canada
#592 - P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune without deck turret

France
#233 - P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (Minelayer configuration)
#561 - P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (ASW configuration)
#581 - P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune without deck turret
#2011? - SP-2H (reused French Neptune DB#)

Great Britain
#2017 - P2V-5 Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early)
#2012? - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) with deck turret (reused French Neptune DB#)

Japan
#2368 - P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune with deck turret
#2369 - SP-2H

Netherlands
#234 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, late) with nose and deck turrets
#563 - P2V-7B
#590 - SP-2H

Portugal
#2013 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, late) with deck turret (ex-MLD)
#2014 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, late) without deck turret (ex-MLD)
 
Sources:
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a597432.pdf
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/neptune_ssq2.html
http://www.hartshorn.us/Navy/navy-mines.htm
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMUS_Mines.php
http://www.enginehistory.org/Piston/Wright/C-WPerformance.pdf
https://maritime.org/doc/jolie/part2.htm
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/naval-aviation-history/naval-aircraft/patrol-aircraft/p2v-4-neptune-korea.html
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/naval-aviation-history/naval-aircraft/patrol-aircraft/p2v-5-neptune-korea.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eda-1-flight-handbook-p2v-5f-aircraft.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eeb-1-flight-manual-p2v-7-aircraft.html
https://p2vneptune.nl/Manual's/index.html
https://p2vneptune.com/i01.shtml
http://www.verslo.is/baldur/p2/main.htm
http://www.emfa.pt/www/album-021.004.036-p2v-5-neptune
https://altimagem.blogspot.pt/2014/01/94-lockheed-p2v-5-neptune-primeira-parte.html
https://altimagem.blogspot.pt/2014/01/94a-lockheed-p2v-5-neptune-segunda-parte.html
http://ultimas-curiosidades.blogspot.pt/2012/04/guerra-colonial-p2v-5-neptuno-no.html
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/neptune.html
https://www.taringa.net/posts/info/882717/Histo-Aeronaval-Argentina-Lockheed-P2V5-Neptune.html
http://www.histarmar.com.ar/Armada%20Argentina/AviacionNaval/AS-Neptune.htm
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a129110.pdf
http://avions-de-la-guerre-d-algerie.over-blog.com/article-lockheed-p2v6-neptune-marine-46553977.html
http://www.ffaa.net/aircraft/neptune/neptune.htm
http://www.rudnei.cunha.nom.br/FAB/en/p-15.html
http://www.adastron.com/lockheed/neptune/neplist.htm
http://www.karo-aviation.nl/photo/RNLAF/pages/SP-2H%20Neptune%20MLD.htm

F$%k!!! this will take awhile

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/2/2018 9:37:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: .Sirius
F$%k!!! this will take awhile


I'm sorry! :(

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/8/2018 12:46:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can you please alter the properties of RN Type 22 Broadswords so that they can replenish

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/9/2018 9:18:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		At some point please consider including the SM-62 Snark cruise missile at it would pretty much complete the OOB for SAC. One squadron was operational briefly from the SAC base at Presque Isle Maine.

Strategic Air Command site

Wikipedia

Handy for testing Soviet air defences from the early 1960's. Or maybe those of Brazil since the wreckage of one launched at the Atlantic Missile Test Range at Ascension Island was discovered in the Amazon rain forest.

Thanks.

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Can you please alter the properties of RN Type 22 Broadswords so that they can replenish

Fixed

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/10/2018 7:56:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Randomizer

At some point please consider including the SM-62 Snark cruise missile at it would pretty much complete the OOB for SAC. One squadron was operational briefly from the SAC base at Presque Isle Maine.

Strategic Air Command site

Wikipedia

Handy for testing Soviet air defences from the early 1960's. Or maybe those of Brazil since the wreckage of one launched at the Atlantic Missile Test Range at Ascension Island was discovered in the Amazon rain forest.

Thanks.

-C

Added :)

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests - 4/10/2018 7:58:47 AM   
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I may have a little bit of OCD.

I started out researching the Portuguese Neptunes, but as I came upon more and more information, I started gathering data about more and more variants of the Neptune, eventually encompassing all variants used by foreign countries (and the P2V-4).

The following is the sum total of my research, as close to reality as I could discover. Firstly you have the characteristics and loadouts of each version, and then you have the versions each country used, with the corresponding database numbers (referred to as DB#).

In that list, I took the liberty of reassigning some numbers when a certain country had too many entries for the versions it had fielded and the other had not enough.

In other cases, the reassigned numbers were of "fictitious" entries: Chile never fielded the Neptune, and France never fielded the P2V-5 (though it fielded the P2V-6 and the P2V-7), so I reassigned those numbers.

I hope you find this research useful!

Enjoy!

KA-17 Panoramic Camera
- Currently the KA-17 is only capable of Surface Search. It should also have Ground Search (Fixed) and Ground Search (Mobile).

AN/APS-20
- From page 141 of the P2V-5F Flight Handbook (page 167 of the pdf file):
“As a search radar, it can detect a small aircraft (…) up to 65 miles, a medium sized plane (…) up to 85 miles, or a ship the size of a destroyer at (…) 200 miles.” (I do not know if they mean nautical miles or regular ones, though.)
- From page 147 of the P2V-5F Flight Handbook (page 173 of the pdf file):
“The AN/APS-20 radar is (…) capable of scanning through 360 degrees for a map type presentation of land masses, ships, and aircraft.”
- Considering the above, the AN/APS-20 radar should have “Air Search” and a 360 degree coverage.
- In earlier versions, the AN/APS-20 was capable of search, but not of targeting. That is why the P2V-4 and early versions of the P2V-5 had an AN/APS-31 radar installed, for air-to-ground and air-to-air targeting and ranging.

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eda-1-flight-handbook-p2v-5f-aircraft.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eeb-1-flight-manual-p2v-7-aircraft.html

P2V-4 (P-2D) Neptune

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20A
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-5A
ESM: AN/APR-9 with AN/APA-69 direction finder and AN/APA-64A signal analyser
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has solid nose with 6 forward-firing 20mm M24 cannons, twin 20mm M24 cannon tail turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 4 Mk. 24 or Mk. 34 torpedoes
Can carry up to 6 500 lbs. bombs/mines
Can carry up to 4 1000 lbs. bombs/mines
Can carry 2 1600 lbs./2000 lbs. bombs/mines

Fuel:
Permanent: 3000 USGal
Wingtip tanks: 600 USGal
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
 
Suggested loadouts (P2V-4):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 4 Mk24/Mk34 torpedoes
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 2 Mk24/Mk34 torpedoes
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 6 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 3 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 2 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 6 500 lbs Mk19 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 4 1000 lbs Mk36 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs Mk25 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 3 500 lbs Mk19 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 2 1000 lbs Mk36 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
P2V-5 (P-2E) Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early)

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20C
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31A
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret, twin 20mm M24 cannon tail turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)

P2V-5 (P-2E) Neptune (ASW configuration, early)

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20C
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31A
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR none
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
 
P2V-5 (P-2E) Neptune (ASW configuration, late)

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret OR none
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)

P2V-5F Neptune

Sensors:
Search Radar: AN/APS-20C
Targeting Radar: AN/APS-31A
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)
 
P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (Minelayer configuration)

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-33B (360º coverage)
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 20mm M24 cannon nose turret, twin 20mm M24 cannon tail turret and twin 12,7mm M2 Browning machinegun deck turret
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)

P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (ASW configuration)

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-33B (360º coverage)
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys internally
Can carry 16 HVAR rockets under the wings
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
 
Suggested loadouts (P2V-5/F and P2V-6):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 8 Mk54 depth charge (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, internal only
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 8 Mk54 depth charge (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 8 Mk54 depth charges (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, internal only
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, long-range
- 8 Mk54 depth charges
- 8 Mk54 depth charges (underwing, 4 for P2V-5F)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 30 AN/SSQ-2B sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)
 
Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 16 HVAR rockets (8 for P2V-5F)

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs Mk50 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs Mk52 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 4 2000 lbs Mk55 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs Mk50 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs Mk52 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 2000 lbs, long-range
- 2 2000 lbs Mk55 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
P2V-5FS (SP-2E) Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/ALR-8 with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
AN/ALR-3
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2800 USGal (16800 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-30W (3250 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)

P2V-7S (SP-2H) Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: Aero 7A
ESM: AN/ALR-8 with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
AN/ALR-3
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 3010 USGal (18060 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-32W (3400 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)
 
P2V-7B Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has solid nose with 4 forward-firing 20mm M24 cannons
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2980 USGal (17880 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-32W (3400 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)

P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune

Sensors:
Radar: AN/APS-20B/E
Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
ESM: AN/APR-9B with AN/APA-69A direction finder and AN/APA-74 signal analyser
MAD: AN/ASQ-8
Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)

Armament:
Has twin 12,7mm M2 Browning deck turret (optional)
Can carry 72 A-size sonobuoys and 8 B-size sonobuoys
Can carry 8 HVAR rockets
Can carry up to 12000 lbs. of ordnance

Fuel:
Permanent: 2980 USGal (17880 lb)
Wingtip tanks: 400 USGal (2400 lb)
Bomb bay tanks: 700 USGal (4200 lb) (up to 2 350 USGal tanks in the bomb bay)

Engines:
2 x Wright R-3350-32W (3400 BHP)
2 x Westinghouse J34 (used only for take-off and climbing)
 
Suggested loadouts (P2V-7 and P2V-7B):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, internal only
- 8 Mk43/Mk44 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, internal only
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, heavy
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, long-range
- 8 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-23 and AN/SSQ-28 sonobuoys (unsure how many of each)
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets
 
Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs Mk50 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs Mk52 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 4 2000 lbs Mk55 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs Mk50 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs Mk52 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 2000 lbs, long-range
- 2 2000 lbs Mk55 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
Suggested loadouts (SP-2E and SP-2H):

Maritime Surveillance
- 2 350 US gal bomb bay tanks

ASW
- 8 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk54 depth charge (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, internal only
- 8 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, heavy
- 8 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 4 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 torpedoes (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, torpedoes, long-range
- 4 Mk43/Mk44/Mk46 OR 2 Mk34 torpedoes
- 4 Mk43/Mk44 torpedoes (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, internal only
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

ASW, depth charges, heavy
- 16 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys
 
ASW, depth charges, long-range
- 8 Mk54 depth charges
- 4 Mk54 depth charges (underwing)
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 72 AN/SSQ-41 sonobuoys
- 8 AN/SSQ-15 sonobuoys

Surface Attack, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 2000 lbs
- 2 2000 lbs M66 GP bombs
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs M64 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Surface Attack, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs M65 GP bombs
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
- 8 HVAR rockets OR 76 FFAR rockets

Minelayer, 500 lbs
- 16 500 lbs Mk50 mines

Minelayer, 1000 lbs
- 8 1000 lbs Mk52 mines

Minelayer, 2000 lbs
- 4 2000 lbs Mk55 mines

Minelayer, 500 lbs, long-range
- 8 500 lbs Mk50 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 1000 lbs, long-range
- 4 1000 lbs Mk52 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank

Minelayer, 2000 lbs, long-range
- 2 2000 lbs Mk55 mines
- 1 350 US gal bomb bay tank
 
US Navy
#570, #571 - P2V-4
#2015, #2018, #3091 - P2V-5 (maybe convert one of these to SP-2E?)
#583, #586, #588 - P2V-6
#235, #558, #591 - P2V-7 (maybe convert one of these to SP-2H?)

Argentina
#2009? - P2V-5 Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early) (ex-RAF, reused Chilean Neptune DB#)
#2010 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) with deck turret (ex-RAF)
#3541 - SP-2E without deck turret
#2895 - SP-2H

Australia
#232 - P2V-5 Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early)
#562 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) with deck turret
#589 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) without deck turret
#594? - P2V-5F (reused Canadian Neptune DB#)
#2367? - SP-2H (reused Japanese Neptune DB#)

Brazil
#2040, #3041, #3542 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) without turrets (ex-RAF, two DB# are redundant)

Canada
#592 - P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune without deck turret

France
#233 - P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (Minelayer configuration)
#561 - P2V-6 (P-2F) Neptune (ASW configuration)
#581 - P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune without deck turret
#2011? - SP-2H (reused French Neptune DB#)

Great Britain
#2017 - P2V-5 Neptune (Minelayer configuration, early)
#2012? - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, early) with deck turret (reused French Neptune DB#)

Japan
#2368 - P2V-7 (P-2H) Neptune with deck turret
#2369 - SP-2H

Netherlands
#234 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, late) with nose and deck turrets
#563 - P2V-7B
#590 - SP-2H

Portugal
#2013 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, late) with deck turret (ex-MLD)
#2014 - P2V-5 Neptune (ASW configuration, late) without deck turret (ex-MLD)
 
Sources:
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a597432.pdf
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/neptune_ssq2.html
http://www.hartshorn.us/Navy/navy-mines.htm
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMUS_Mines.php
http://www.enginehistory.org/Piston/Wright/C-WPerformance.pdf
https://maritime.org/doc/jolie/part2.htm
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/naval-aviation-history/naval-aircraft/patrol-aircraft/p2v-4-neptune-korea.html
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/naval-aviation-history/naval-aircraft/patrol-aircraft/p2v-5-neptune-korea.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eda-1-flight-handbook-p2v-5f-aircraft.html
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/lockheed/p-2neptune/navweps-01-75eeb-1-flight-manual-p2v-7-aircraft.html
https://p2vneptune.nl/Manual's/index.html
https://p2vneptune.com/i01.shtml
http://www.verslo.is/baldur/p2/main.htm
http://www.emfa.pt/www/album-021.004.036-p2v-5-neptune
https://altimagem.blogspot.pt/2014/01/94-lockheed-p2v-5-neptune-primeira-parte.html
https://altimagem.blogspot.pt/2014/01/94a-lockheed-p2v-5-neptune-segunda-parte.html
http://ultimas-curiosidades.blogspot.pt/2012/04/guerra-colonial-p2v-5-neptuno-no.html
http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/neptune.html
https://www.taringa.net/posts/info/882717/Histo-Aeronaval-Argentina-Lockheed-P2V5-Neptune.html
http://www.histarmar.com.ar/Armada%20Argentina/AviacionNaval/AS-Neptune.htm
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a129110.pdf
http://avions-de-la-guerre-d-algerie.over-blog.com/article-lockheed-p2v6-neptune-marine-46553977.html
http://www.ffaa.net/aircraft/neptune/neptune.htm
http://www.rudnei.cunha.nom.br/FAB/en/p-15.html
http://www.adastron.com/lockheed/neptune/neplist.htm
http://www.karo-aviation.nl/photo/RNLAF/pages/SP-2H%20Neptune%20MLD.htm

All done with some amendments, so of the loadouts look abit heavy for a P-2 ie EIGHT ASW Torpedos

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