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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 8/23/2019 8:20:02 AM   
obvert


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Status: offline 		My troops look to alll reach the x3 terrain blockade point just outside Sian. I hope these troops can hold for a few bloody attacks, but who knows at this stage with Allied firepower as it is. They're digging in now.




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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 8/23/2019 8:22:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is probably my best IJN fighter group, which has been defending at Hakodate and on Hokkaido throughout. A lot of golden boys here, and the Allies will find it difficult to get a good VP score if I can keep them in N1K5s.




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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 8/23/2019 10:36:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: obvert

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo


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ORIGINAL: obvert

Resources and supplies are dropping quickly now. At this rate I think I'll be out by the end of 45.

Hard lessns to learn when you see 45 every 4-5 years! Makes it tough to learn and get it right. This time I'm suffering for resources, not fuel. Maybe the key is that it'll always be something. There is no perfect Japanese endgame economy.


Well, I think you are correct: you will be short something before the others … I think the key is that it isn't much before you would be short of most of the others as well.


It seems now like my fuel will be good until the end. Especially with less ships moving around. The Northern strategy cut off a lot of resources early and I didn't really look at that early enough to build a bigger pool.

Resources also take a big hit from Manpower bombing as they're usually the largest group of points at any big base on the home islands, and thus burn up first.

Unless of course you have more fuel, then it burns fastest!

Yeah, if you had monitored your resources earlier you might have mitigated your current situation a bit. Maybe you end up with another 100,000 supply tops. Not really going to impact it much more than that. In other words, once the allies are able bomb the HI, bad things happen. Nothing new there.

You're in really good shape considering the date here. Sure, you run out of resources, so what? The plan is to get into '45 before running out of fuel/resources and then you finish the war easily on your HI/Supply reserves. You're 9/45. You got this easily.




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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 8/23/2019 1:06:33 PM   
obvert


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ORIGINAL: obvert

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ORIGINAL: obvert

Resources and supplies are dropping quickly now. At this rate I think I'll be out by the end of 45.

Hard lessns to learn when you see 45 every 4-5 years! Makes it tough to learn and get it right. This time I'm suffering for resources, not fuel. Maybe the key is that it'll always be something. There is no perfect Japanese endgame economy.


Well, I think you are correct: you will be short something before the others … I think the key is that it isn't much before you would be short of most of the others as well.


It seems now like my fuel will be good until the end. Especially with less ships moving around. The Northern strategy cut off a lot of resources early and I didn't really look at that early enough to build a bigger pool.

Resources also take a big hit from Manpower bombing as they're usually the largest group of points at any big base on the home islands, and thus burn up first.

Unless of course you have more fuel, then it burns fastest!

Yeah, if you had monitored your resources earlier you might have mitigated your current situation a bit. Maybe you end up with another 100,000 supply tops. Not really going to impact it much more than that. In other words, once the allies are able bomb the HI, bad things happen. Nothing new there.

You're in really good shape considering the date here. Sure, you run out of resources, so what? The plan is to get into '45 before running out of fuel/resources and then you finish the war easily on your HI/Supply reserves. You're 9/45. You got this easily.





He has still not bombed either Tokyo or Osaka. Can't figure that out. A few strikes to each of those and I'd be running on fumes for sure. It's interesting what the Allies can't see and don't know unless they've been on this side.

I'm beginning to withdraw all excess air units and I've turned off replacements for units on the Home Islands long ago. Might even withdraw some engineers and other less needed units now. Anything to save.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 8/23/2019 1:23:11 PM   
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The Allies turn their 4Es on the bases I nKorea, including the big one at Fusan. Taking out a level 9 airbase next to the Home Islands should be dangerous, and the Allies do suffer some losses, but their mix of sweeps and B-29s massed in one day is too much for the staunchest of defenses. These were not our top groups. A lot of training groups and obsolete fighters. Fusan is demolished and the Allies burn 350+ planes to about 200+ of their own lost. Yuck.

All troops are moving back in order, and there is no place the Soviets can halt the process to cut them off before they reach Korea. That's good at least.

The FR-1 Fireball makes it appearance. Wow.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 14, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 41,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 2
A7M2 Sam x 24
N1K5-J George x 26
Ki-84r Frank x 6
Ki-100-II Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 9 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 44,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 1
A7M2 Sam x 16
N1K5-J George x 18
Ki-84r Frank x 5
Ki-100-II Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 1
A7M2 Sam x 10
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Ki-100-II Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 1
Fires 16298

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Ground combat at Heijo (103,47)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3150 troops, 0 guns, 245 vehicles, Assault Value = 3741

Defending force 9009 troops, 117 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 229

Allied adjusted assault: 69

Japanese adjusted defense: 212

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
527 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 40 (28 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
259th Tank Brigade
258th Tank Brigade
1197th SU Regiment
171st Tank Brigade
5th Guards Tank Corps
338th Guards SU Regiment
335th Guards SU Regiment
480th Guards SU Regiment
378th Guards SU Regiment
214th Tank Brigade
82nd Tank Battalion
61st Tank Division
395th Guards SU Regiment
339th Guards SU Regiment
1019th SU Regiment
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
73rd Tank Brigade
257th Tank Brigade
206th Tank Brigade
125th Tank Brigade
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
478th Guards SU Regiment
74th Tank Brigade
927th SU Regiment
72nd Tank Brigade
479th Guards SU Regiment
1012th SU Regiment

Defending units:
137th Division
100th Field AA Battalion
19th JNAF AF Unit



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 15, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Keijo , at 103,50

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 45,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 35
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 6
Ki-100-I Tony x 19
Ki-100-II Tony x 8
Ki-102b Randy x 41

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 3
N1K5-J George x 6
Ki-100-II Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 5
P-51D Mustang x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 3
Fires 8428

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 110,45 (near Rashin)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 39357 troops, 599 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1284

Defending force 34362 troops, 285 guns, 81 vehicles, Assault Value = 997

Allied adjusted assault: 506

Japanese adjusted defense: 1339

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1004 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 99 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 22 (1 destroyed, 21 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2147 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 205 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 29 (1 destroyed, 28 disabled)

Assaulting units:
59th Rifle Division
97th Rifle Division
264th Rifle Division

Defending units:
12th Division
111th Division
9th Border Defense Fortress
1st Infantry Regiment
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
31st RF Gun Battalion

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Ground combat at Heijo (103,47)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 116444 troops, 1090 guns, 6243 vehicles, Assault Value = 4320

Defending force 1151 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 4605

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 4605 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Heijo !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1553 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 132 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
378th Guards SU Regiment
73rd Tank Brigade
165th Tank Brigade
82nd Tank Battalion
75th Tank Brigade
1019th SU Regiment
257th Tank Brigade
335th Guards SU Regiment
171st Tank Brigade
214th Tank Brigade
259th Tank Brigade
74th Tank Brigade
206th Tank Brigade
478th Guards SU Regiment
72nd Tank Brigade
258th Tank Brigade
339th Guards SU Regiment
1197th SU Regiment
395th Guards SU Regiment
927th SU Regiment
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
479th Guards SU Regiment
480th Guards SU Regiment
5th Guards Tank Corps
61st Tank Division
209th Tank Brigade
210th Tank Brigade
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
338th Guards SU Regiment
125th Tank Brigade
1012th SU Regiment

Defending units:
100th Field AA Battalion
19th JNAF AF Unit

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 16, 1945
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Ground combat at Tsingtao (95,47)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16879 troops, 278 guns, 400 vehicles, Assault Value = 470

Defending force 6646 troops, 93 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 122

Allied adjusted assault: 410

Japanese adjusted defense: 101

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
612 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 24 (3 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
93rd Infantry Division
194th Tank Battalion
IX Corps Artillery

Defending units:
13th Ind.Mixed Regiment
22nd Special Base Force
11th RGC Ind. Brigade
Ching Tao Special Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 17, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 16
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 20
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 16
Ki-84b Frank x 39
Ki-100-I Tony x 37
Ki-100-II Tony x 33
Ki-102b Randy x 53

Allied aircraft
FR-1 Fireball x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 3 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Keijo , at 103,50

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 40,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 33
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 65
Ki-100-I Tony x 30
Ki-102b Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Keijo , at 103,50

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 42,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 30
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 53
Ki-100-I Tony x 28
Ki-102b Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 11
N1K5-J George x 12
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 18
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 16
Ki-84b Frank x 31
Ki-100-I Tony x 34
Ki-100-II Tony x 26
Ki-102b Randy x 50

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 44,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 11
N1K5-J George x 10
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 16
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 16
Ki-84b Frank x 26
Ki-100-I Tony x 31
Ki-100-II Tony x 17
Ki-102b Randy x 47

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 80
F4U-4 Corsair x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 6 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet

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Morning Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 8
N1K5-J George x 5
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 8
Ki-84b Frank x 15
Ki-100-I Tony x 20
Ki-100-II Tony x 6
Ki-102b Randy x 30

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 18
B-29-25 Superfort x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 1 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 damaged
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground
J1N1-Sa Irving: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 6 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-II KAI Helen: 8 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 16 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 18 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 33
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 73

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 3
N1K5-J George x 1
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Ki-84a Frank x 6
Ki-84b Frank x 10
Ki-100-I Tony x 6
Ki-100-II Tony x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 13

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 63

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-100-I Tony: 6 damaged
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 damaged
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-102b Randy: 7 damaged
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-II KAI Helen: 4 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed on ground
J1N1-Sa Irving: 4 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M5d-S Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 4 destroyed, 26 damaged

Airbase hits 22
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 51

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 13000 feet
Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 8/24/2019 3:07:33 AM   
PaxMondo


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Status: offline 		Wow! FR-1's really cut up your units!

I've never had it cut up my units like this … must be the climb rate?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 8/24/2019 8:58:09 PM   
obvert


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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Wow! FR-1's really cut up your units!

I've never had it cut up my units like this … must be the climb rate?


These weren't the best groups I have, firstly, but it's also that I've setup for low-layered CAP to focus on frustrating the P-47/P-51 high sweeps. The planes that can fly fast with high maneuver at low altitudes (like the Spit and Corsair) do much better. I think the Fireball is in this category but I'd have to look at the stats.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 8/26/2019 11:10:29 AM   
obvert


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The Allied sweeps are tough right now with the addition of better Corsairs, Fireballs, Bearcats, plus now the P-51H. Some have trouble one turn or another, but overall he's mixing it up enough to get about 3:1 with 2/3 of the sweeps. I'll not be able to defend the air in Korea except occasionally.

The B-29s try a very high raid on Nagaoka which yields very few hit for the number of bombers involved and also results in the loss of a handful to the Nf, which seem able to get up in time to 25k with their radar.

Bombardments at Keijo have been devastated by the defensive counterfire so far, but the Soviets have more moving in. All retreats are going steadily toward Kanko, but shouldn't all reach there for another 10-12 days. Until then I'll have about 3.5k AV at Keijo in 1-2 days, 3k AV at Genzan with another 1k AV in each of the two x3 terrain hexes between, which are hard to reach from the West side of the peninsula.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 19, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Keijo , at 103,50

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 37,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 11
Ki-102b Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 43,700 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 48
J7W1 Shinden x 38
N1K5-J George x 46
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 16
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
FR-1 Fireball x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FR-1 Fireball: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 40,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 36
J7W1 Shinden x 16
N1K5-J George x 47
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 49
Ki-84b Frank x 7
Ki-84r Frank x 65
Ki-102a Randy x 29
Ki-102b Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 123

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 5 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet
18 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet
16 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet
15 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 29
J7W1 Shinden x 13
N1K5-J George x 36
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 41
Ki-84b Frank x 7
Ki-84r Frank x 54
Ki-102a Randy x 22
Ki-102b Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
F8F-1 Bearcat x 37

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F8F-1 Bearcat: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F8F-1 Bearcat sweeping at 10000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 24
J7W1 Shinden x 11
N1K5-J George x 35
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 39
Ki-84b Frank x 7
Ki-84r Frank x 50
Ki-102a Randy x 22
Ki-102b Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 84

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
13 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
13 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
13 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
5 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 51 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 21
J7W1 Shinden x 8
N1K5-J George x 29
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 35
Ki-84b Frank x 6
Ki-84r Frank x 40
Ki-102a Randy x 19
Ki-102b Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 42,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 16
Ki-83 x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 22
Ki-100-II Tony x 17

Allied aircraft
P-51H Mustang x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51H Mustang: 6 destroyed

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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23106 troops, 602 guns, 697 vehicles, Assault Value = 749

Defending force 53676 troops, 483 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 1437

Japanese ground losses:
285 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
754th Tank Battalion
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
IV Indian Corps
4th Field Artillery Battalion
86th Medium Regiment
85th Medium Regiment
77th Coast AA Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
Tenth US Army
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
I Corps Artillery
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
251st Field Artillery Battalion
XI Corps Artillery
87th Medium Regiment
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
30th Division
9th Mongol Cavalry Division
16th RGC Temp. Division
89th Division
1st Amphibious Brigade
72nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
85th Ind.Mixed Brigade
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
22nd RF Gun Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Keijo (103,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 105045 troops, 901 guns, 5931 vehicles, Assault Value = 5150

Defending force 105245 troops, 982 guns, 389 vehicles, Assault Value = 2567

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 46 (20 destroyed, 26 disabled)

Assaulting units:
165th Tank Brigade
378th Guards SU Regiment
171st Tank Brigade
259th Tank Brigade
1019th SU Regiment
257th Tank Brigade
82nd Tank Battalion
214th Tank Brigade
209th Tank Brigade
480th Guards SU Regiment
1197th SU Regiment
927th SU Regiment
10th Mechanized Corps
335th Guards SU Regiment
210th Tank Brigade
5th Guards Tank Corps
258th Tank Brigade
206th Tank Brigade
338th Guards SU Regiment
61st Tank Division
125th Tank Brigade
72nd Tank Brigade
395th Guards SU Regiment
73rd Tank Brigade
75th Tank Brigade
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
479th Guards SU Regiment
478th Guards SU Regiment
74th Tank Brigade
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
339th Guards SU Regiment
1012th SU Regiment

Defending units:
79th Division
122nd Division
112th Division
128th Division
124th Division
Hachijo-jima Naval Guard Unit
320th Division
96th Division
Manchukuo Guards Brigade
40th JNAF AF Unit
30th Mortar Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
53rd Air Division
27th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
33rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
Kwantung Army
10th Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
58th Army
86th Field AA Battalion
22nd Field AA Machinecannon Company
1st Field Artillery Regiment
46th Air Defense AA Battalion
31st Mortar Battalion
17th Naval Construction Battalion
29th RF Gun Battalion
17th Area Army
138th JAAF AF Bn

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Night Air attack on Nagaoka , at 114,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 28
P1Y2-S Frances x 7
Ki-102c Randy x 20

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 5
B-29B Superfort x 33

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 21 damaged

Manpower hits 9
Fires 5110

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 25000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagaoka , at 114,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 22
P1Y2-S Frances x 7
Ki-102c Randy x 17

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Manpower hits 1
Fires 5840

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 25000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagaoka , at 114,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 22
P1Y2-S Frances x 4
Ki-102c Randy x 14

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Manpower hits 1
Fires 6570

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 25000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Wuchang , at 84,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 30
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 33
Ki-84r Frank x 31

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 6 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 9 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 7 destroyed

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I'm flying some troops to Anking as some Allied troops are showing interest in this little yellow road. Other forces are moving up from Chungking. Those near Sian will stay until pushed back.




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It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too...

Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.

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It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too...

Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.


The Allies are halfway there already: the Fireball was a piston-jet hybrid.

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It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too...

Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.


You totally lost me here. Maybe I'm just reading this before having my second cuppa Joe.

EDIT: wait! I see my typo now. Got it!

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It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too...

Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.


The Allies are halfway there already: the Fireball was a piston-jet hybrid.


Yeah. The difference between August and September is already being felt in terms of types and quantity of airframes available. When the B-17G groups get in the action I fear it'll get a lot tougher.

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For what it's worth, the Ki-94-II is now researching. If made, this will be a very limited run of production. It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too, so it'll be a moot point.





They definitely will not stand up to P80As.

In my Ironman game the AI got them early so I had to face them with lesser planes, but the AI also got so many models beyond the KI-94-IIs that they really didn't stand out.

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ORIGINAL: obvert
It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too...

Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.


The Allies are halfway there already: the Fireball was a piston-jet hybrid.


Yeah. The difference between August and September is already being felt in terms of types and quantity of airframes available. When the B-17G groups get in the action I fear it'll get a lot tougher.


I think it was you who made a statement recently somewhere that the Allies will never get an air frame that can maneuver with the more maneuverable Japanese planes. I immediately thought, "Oh yeah, wait until he gets a look at the FR-1. Then I actually looked up the maneuver rates of some of the Japanese air frames and was immediately sobered. Even the Fireball, which has the highest low level maneuver ratings of any Allied air frame, doesn't come close to matching that of the Japanese air frames.

However, even though it doesn't achieve the maneuver ratings of the Japanese air frames, the FR-1 is a tough customer with excellent speed and climb rate. The build rate is fairly low allowing a small number of squadrons to be converted to it.

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ORIGINAL: obvert
It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too...

Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.


The Allies are halfway there already: the Fireball was a piston-jet hybrid.


Yeah. The difference between August and September is already being felt in terms of types and quantity of airframes available. When the B-17G groups get in the action I fear it'll get a lot tougher.


I think it was you who made a statement recently somewhere that the Allies will never get an air frame that can maneuver with the more maneuverable Japanese planes. I immediately thought, "Oh yeah, wait until he gets a look at the FR-1. Then I actually looked up the maneuver rates of some of the Japanese air frames and was immediately sobered. Even the Fireball, which has the highest low level maneuver ratings of any Allied air frame, doesn't come close to matching that of the Japanese air frames.

However, even though it doesn't achieve the maneuver ratings of the Japanese air frames, the FR-1 is a tough customer with excellent speed and climb rate. The build rate is fairly low allowing a small number of squadrons to be converted to it.


The low-layered CAP is kind of like the MiG-17 tactics in the Vietnam war against the USAAF. Low and slow, but with a lot of bait and shoot teams.

Spits are the ultimate tool against this tactic since they can do it all; speed, maneuver and firepower. Just not always the range the Allies need.

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Status: offline 		Here is a look at the three new USN airframes in relation to the Spit VIII, which is the best for mid-level sweeps against the low-layered CAP. The Fireball certainly has the best manoeuvre to combat this tactic, matched with its good speed and durability. It's guns are suspect, with only the 4 x 50cal MG, wing mounted.

The F4U-4, which being a speed upgrade, has reduced manoeuvre from the F4U-1D, which has been the best sweeper at mid-altitudes.

The Bearcat is very good all around, and has done well so far.

I'm lucky the Fireball comes in low production numbers!





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The Allies begin to attempt a cull of Japanese fighters in Central China at Wuchang. This base and Hankow are used together, but it won't be long before the bombers come and I'll need to evacuate. That's really fine though now as I've done what I need to ensure units get into the x3 to try and form blocks in the mountains surrounding the Central Plains.

The Allies begin a slow march across the SRA taking out Soerabaja. This area has only stragglers now from other captured bases, and I'll attempt to make Balikpapan a last stand base since it has plentiful supply and must be invaded amphibiously.

All ships now moving toward Babeldaob and up through to the Home Islands. The vast majority will make it and deliver the goods right up until the beginning of October it looks like. That's icing on the economic cake for sure.

Troops have now moved into Genzan, and some appear to be moving across country to the hexes between Genzan and Keijo. My forces are there but I need another week to really flecsh those blocking points out. They should get 1k AV each to start, then another 1k AV each once the troops coming from Mukden arrive shortly thereafter. I've got tanks racing from the Rashin area to fill in as well now, and I'll be sending a few free IDs and tank brigades from Honshu to provide emergency reserve in Korea. I'll also begin to send in some small naval guards to hold the unoccupied coastal hexes to dissuade any 'Inchon' style landings.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 21, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Wuchang , at 84,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 6
N1K5-J George x 11
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5
Ki-84r Frank x 14
Ki-100-II Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 21
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-83 x 20
Ki-84r Frank x 30
Ki-100-II Tony x 12

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 7 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Wuchang , at 84,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 3
N1K5-J George x 29
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 12
Ki-100-II Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 8 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Wuchang , at 84,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 3
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 8
Ki-100-II Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 6 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Ki-83 x 18
Ki-84r Frank x 23
Ki-100-II Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 3 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on 10th Division, at 106,44 (Tunghua)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 27

Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 13 damaged
Pe-2: 5 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Pe-2 bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Nagaoka , at 114,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 14
Ki-102b Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 17000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10
Ki-83 x 27
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Ki-100-II Tony x 28

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 65

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 5 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38L Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
4 x P-38L Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
3 x P-38L Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

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Ground combat at Soerabaja (56,104)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30074 troops, 171 guns, 668 vehicles, Assault Value = 1085

Defending force 8512 troops, 100 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 147

Allied adjusted assault: 460

Japanese adjusted defense: 73

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 6)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2063 casualties reported
Squads: 39 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 74 disabled
Guns lost 34 (14 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
475 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th Australian/A Division
X Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
785th Tank Battalion
767th Tank Battalion
102nd(Sep) Infantry Regiment
2nd Australian Division
779th Tank Battalion
6th Infantry Div /19
198th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
Yokosuka 4th SNLF
21st Ind. Engineer Regiment
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
Maizuru 2nd SNLF /6
Maraisha JNAF Base Force
1st JNAF Coy
18th JAAF AF Bn
10th Area Fleet
41st JNAF AF Unit
7th Naval Const Bn /2

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Ground combat at Genzan (105,48)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10623 troops, 504 guns, 286 vehicles, Assault Value = 1236

Defending force 124590 troops, 1507 guns, 613 vehicles, Assault Value = 3296

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (8 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Assaulting units:
76th Tank Brigade
275th Rifle Division
77th Tank Brigade
203rd Tank Brigade
262nd Rifle Division
310th Guards Mortar Regiment
110th/355th AA Battalion
181st Mortar Regiment
3rd Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division

Defending units:
23rd Division
139th Division
10th Ind.Mixed Regiment
121st Division
80th Ind.Mixed Brigade
137th Division
49th Infantry Regiment
136th Division
3rd Ind.Tank Brigade
25th Division
77th Ind.Mixed Brigade
34th Tank Regiment
123rd Division
312th Division
133rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
Eiko-wan Fortress
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Area Army
91st Field AA Battalion
7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Mortar Battalion
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
42nd Air Defense AA Battalion
131st IMB Artillery Battalion
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
24th RF Gun Battalion
23rd Field AA Machinecannon Company
22nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Regiment
17th Mortar Battalion
29th Field AA Machinecannon Company
16th Field AA Machinecannon Company
48th JAAF AF Bn
32nd RF Gun Battalion
30th Field AA Machinecannon Company
34th JAAF AF Bn
15th Mortar Battalion
19th Field AA Machinecannon Company
15th JNAF AF Unit
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Chosen JNAF Base Force

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The Allies close Hankow after numerous effective sweeps and bombing strikes.

Somehow also they try for Keijo fields but sweeps seem not to fly. The B-29s arrive first and it's a massacre! Shot down 30+ today. Nice.

The Allies continue to sweep in Hokkaido and suffer 1:1 altogether against our top IJN groups.

Tension falls but Genzan bombardments yield horrible results so far for the Allies, which is a great sign for the defending possibilities here in spite of the massive firepower advantage the Allies will have.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 23, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Madras Police Battalion, at 81,33 , near Lanchow

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 1
N1K5-J George x 5
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-83 x 24
Ki-84r Frank x 20
Ki-100-II Tony x 23

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 4 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F4U-4 Corsair sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 1
N1K5-J George x 3
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 1
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-83 x 11
Ki-84r Frank x 18
Ki-100-II Tony x 9

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 1
N1K5-J George x 3
Ki-83 x 8
Ki-84r Frank x 12
Ki-100-II Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 12
Thunderbolt II x 1
P-51D Mustang x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-51D Mustang sweeping at 12000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 3
Ki-83 x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Ki-100-II Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 8
Thunderbolt II x 15
A-20G Havoc x 3
B-24J Liberator x 15
P-51D Mustang x 18
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-83: 3 damaged
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 3 damaged
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
Thunderbolt II: 3 destroyed
A-20G Havoc: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
PBJ-1J Mitchell: 5 damaged
PBJ-1J Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x PBJ-1J Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Genzan , at 105,48

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 41
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 16
Ki-84b Frank x 34
Ki-84r Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 72

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
Ki-84b Frank: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-84r Frank: 2 damaged
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 9 destroyed, 45 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 7th Base Force, at 83,41 (Sian)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 18

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 15 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Genzan , at 105,48

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 17
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42801 troops, 874 guns, 1010 vehicles, Assault Value = 1984

Defending force 53771 troops, 482 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 1415

Allied adjusted assault: 593

Japanese adjusted defense: 4153

Allied assault odds: 1 to 7

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1552 casualties reported
Squads: 65 destroyed, 117 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 25 (3 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1120 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 99 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Guns lost 19 (2 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Vehicles lost 87 (14 destroyed, 73 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd Cavalry Regiment
33rd Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
40th Infantry Division
5th Indian Division
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
Tenth US Army
85th Medium Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
4th Field Artillery Battalion
XI Corps Artillery
251st Field Artillery Battalion
77th Coast AA Regiment
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
IV Indian Corps
I Corps Artillery
87th Medium Regiment
86th Medium Regiment
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
9th Mongol Cavalry Division
89th Division
16th RGC Temp. Division
85th Ind.Mixed Brigade
30th Division
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Amphibious Brigade
72nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd RF Gun Battalion
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Tientsin (95,41)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 95799 troops, 1319 guns, 4510 vehicles, Assault Value = 6110

Defending force 23858 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 746

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 2568

Japanese adjusted defense: 2717

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)
preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1391 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 156 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 25 (2 destroyed, 23 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1237 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 205 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 37 (1 destroyed, 36 disabled)
Vehicles lost 70 (10 destroyed, 60 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
5th Australian Division
710th Tank Battalion
172nd Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
6th Rifle Division
762nd Tank Battalion
52nd Rifle Division
37th Infantry Division
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
33rd Tank Battalion
243rd Rifle Division
43rd Tank Brigade
766th Tank Battalion
111th Tank Division
735th SU Regiment
1st Guards Airborne Division
19th Guards Rifle Division
50th Tank Brigade
355th Rifle Division
25th Mechanized Brigade
XV Indian Corps
461st Mortar Regiment
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
165th Field Artillery Battalion
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
77th Heavy AA Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
XIV US Corps
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
53rd Army
239th/376th AA Battalion
152nd Cannon Brigade
134th Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion

Defending units:
69th Division
91st Division
7th NCPC Infantry Brigade

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Ground combat at Genzan (105,48)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 43686 troops, 1057 guns, 783 vehicles, Assault Value = 2184

Defending force 124558 troops, 1489 guns, 598 vehicles, Assault Value = 3317

Allied ground losses:
290 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 25 (7 destroyed, 18 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 16
N1K5-J George x 40
Ki-100-II Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 14
N1K5-J George x 35
Ki-100-II Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 9
N1K5-J George x 25
Ki-100-II Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 3 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 35
N1K5-J George x 17
Ki-100-II Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 4 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 13
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-100-II Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-51D Mustang sweeping at 22000 feet
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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 65291 troops, 1373 guns, 1300 vehicles, Assault Value = 1851

Defending force 52202 troops, 479 guns, 97 vehicles, Assault Value = 1307

Japanese ground losses:
339 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
40th Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
33rd Infantry Division
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
5th Indian Division
86th Medium Regiment
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
4th Field Artillery Battalion
I Corps Artillery
Tenth US Army
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
IV Indian Corps
85th Medium Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
XI Corps Artillery
251st Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
77th Coast AA Regiment
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
89th Division
85th Ind.Mixed Brigade
72nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Amphibious Brigade
30th Division
16th RGC Temp. Division
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd RF Gun Battalion
9th Mongol Cavalry Division
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Tientsin (95,41)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 152537 troops, 2470 guns, 3166 vehicles, Assault Value = 6358

Defending force 22029 troops, 120 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 556

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 2952

Japanese adjusted defense: 853

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tientsin !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2855 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 231 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 22 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 47 (18 destroyed, 29 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1607 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 200 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 43 (2 destroyed, 41 disabled)

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Ground combat at Genzan (105,48)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 43811 troops, 1083 guns, 774 vehicles, Assault Value = 2145

Defending force 114524 troops, 1363 guns, 658 vehicles, Assault Value = 2905

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
243 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled)
Vehicles lost 27 (14 destroyed, 13 disabled)
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The Allies had been steadily building up at Keijo, but I hadn't realised how much until this turn. I knew the base would be safe for a while with its heavy urban defensive terrain and level 6 forts, and I've also been getting as much as possible into the hex. The Allies decided to test their luck without any ground, naval or air bombardments. They did reduce forts to 5, but in spite of getting 10k AV+ of very good late war Soviet troops into the base, they ended up getting a 1:11 with massive casualties.

Almost 800 Allied devices were destroyed outright, with another 2,000+ disabled. This is about the best I could have hoped for here, and even with reduced forts, it will be tough in the next few for the Allies without a lot of prep time and bombardments. That should give time to strengthen nearby positions and dig in.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 25, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Genzan , at 105,48

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 35
Ki-84b Frank x 5

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 6 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x F6F-5 Hellcat sweeping at 21000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Genzan , at 105,48

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 15
Ki-84b Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x F4U-4 Corsair sweeping at 21000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 5
Ki-102a Randy x 35

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 3 destroyed


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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 65350 troops, 1373 guns, 1300 vehicles, Assault Value = 2264

Defending force 52367 troops, 479 guns, 98 vehicles, Assault Value = 1312

Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Keijo (103,50)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 352260 troops, 5536 guns, 11047 vehicles, Assault Value = 10292

Defending force 150749 troops, 1583 guns, 427 vehicles, Assault Value = 3794

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 1947

Japanese adjusted defense: 21661

Allied assault odds: 1 to 11 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1514 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 117 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 39 (1 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
7932 casualties reported
Squads: 354 destroyed, 279 disabled
Non Combat: 46 destroyed, 704 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 161 (74 destroyed, 87 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1348 (283 destroyed, 1065 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
1019th SU Regiment
257th Tank Brigade
159th Rifle Division
209th Tank Brigade
335th Guards SU Regiment
345th Rifle Division
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
927th SU Regiment
479th Guards SU Regiment
61st Tank Division
209th Rifle Division
1197th SU Regiment
82nd Tank Battalion
5th Guards Tank Corps
371st Rifle Division
378th Guards SU Regiment
292nd Rifle Division
10th Mechanized Corps
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
45th Engr-Sapper Bde
210th Tank Brigade
34th Rifle Division
339th Guards SU Regiment
333rd Guards SU Regiment
22nd Engr-Sapper Bde
214th Tank Brigade
73rd Tank Brigade
259th Tank Brigade
1012th SU Regiment
66th Rifle Division
393rd Rifle Division
165th Tank Brigade
258th Tank Brigade
395th Guards SU Regiment
206th Tank Brigade
277th Engineer Battalion
8th Engr-Sapper Bde
72nd Tank Brigade
74th Tank Brigade
338th Guards SU Regiment
218th Tank Brigade
171st Tank Brigade
480th Guards SU Regiment
75th Tank Brigade
478th Guards SU Regiment
192nd Rifle Division
94th Rifle Division
125th Tank Brigade
3rd NKVD Division
192nd OM Gun Battalion
15th Army
119th Hvy.Howitzer Brigade
26th/42nd Gd.Mortar Regiment
263rd Howitzer Regiment
183rd Mortar Regiment
54th Guards Mortar Regiment
433rd Hvy Howitzer Regiment
1916th AA Regiment
465th Mortar Regiment
1648th AA Regiment
147th PVO AA Battalion
267th Cannon Regiment
1637th Howitzer Regiment
1133rd Howitzer Regiment
32nd Guards Mortar Regiment
115th/129th AA Battalion
177th Howitzer Regiment
56th Rifle Corps
9th/42nd AA Battalion
610th AT Gun Regiment
1632nd AT Gun Regiment
1123rd Cannon Regiment
26th Guards Mortar Brigade
1121st Cannon Regiment
5th Army
390th Cannon Regiment
950th Artillery Regiment
45th Howitzer Regiment
1194th BM Howitzer Regiment
100th OM Howitzer Battalion
42nd Cannon Regiment
215th Howitzer Regiment
52nd Cannon Regiment
39th Guards Mortar Regiment
182nd Howitzer Regiment
413th Howitzer Regiment
501st Artillery Regiment
87th Howitzer Regiment
1233rd Cannon Regiment
20th Guards Mortar Brigade
1140th Cannon Regiment
1589th AA Regiment
1628th AT Gun Regiment
78th/186th PVO AA Battalion
1st Far East Front
273rd Cannon Regiment
386th Howitzer Regiment
2nd Red Banner Army
67th Guards Mortar Regiment
43rd/44th AA Battalion
190th/398th PVO AA Battalion
2nd/307th Gd.Mortar Regiment
1912th TD Regiment
4th/152nd PVO AA Battalion
1192nd BM Howitzer Regiment
145th Howitzer Regiment
1590th AA Regiment
76th Cannon Regiment
1120th Cannon Regiment
1636th AT Gun Regiment
59th/721st AA Battalion
120th/401st AA Battalion
177th Mortar Regiment
36th Army
550th BM Howitzer Regiment
1124th Cannon Regiment
28th/70th AA Battalion
1131st Hvy Howitzer Regiment
1139th Cannon Regiment
472nd Mortar Regiment
15th Guards Cannon Brigade
202nd Lt.Artillery Brigade
53rd Mortar Brigade
199th BM Howitzer Regiment
56th Hvy.Mortar Brigade
1125th Cannon Regiment
10th/132nd PVO AA Battalion
72nd/74th Gd.Mortar Regiment
178th Mortar Regiment
147th Howitzer Regiment
402nd Engineer Battalion
Trans Baikal Front
1138th Cannon Regiment
283rd Guards Mortar Regiment
187th Cannon Regiment
22nd/24th AA Battalion
953rd Artillery Regiment
61st Anti-Tank Brigade
424th Hvy Howitzer Regiment
470th Mortar Regiment
162nd/390th PVO AA Battalion
1915th AA Regiment
3rd Mongolian Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
122nd Division
79th Division
160th Division
Manchukuo Guards Brigade
Combined 8th SNLF
Hachijo-jima Naval Guard Unit
107th Division
96th Division
39th Ind.Mixed Regiment
Kure 7th SNLF
112th Division
320th Division
134th Division
128th Division
124th Division
127th Div /1
17th Naval Construction Battalion
Kwantung Army
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
31st Mortar Battalion
17th Area Army
30th Mortar Battalion
33rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
27th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
58th Army
1st Field Artillery Regiment
46th Air Defense AA Battalion
10th Mortar Battalion
86th Field AA Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
29th RF Gun Battalion
40th JNAF AF Unit
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
22nd Field AA Machinecannon Company
53rd Air Division
138th JAAF AF Bn

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Japanese forces are doing very well after the attack at Keijo.




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Status: offline 		I have found that Spit VIIIs don't hold up well at all when sweeping.

Spit XIVs perform much better.

I'm also a bit disappointed with P51Hs. They seem to be hit or miss, doing really well one turn and abysmally the next.

P47Ns have been the most consistent performers behind the P80As which are in a class of their own.

Tempest 2s are strong performers as well.

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

I have found that Spit VIIIs don't hold up well at all when sweeping.

Spit XIVs perform much better.

I'm also a bit disappointed with P51Hs. They seem to be hit or miss, doing really well one turn and abysmally the next.

P47Ns have been the most consistent performers behind the P80As which are in a class of their own.

Tempest 2s are strong performers as well.


My post above is mainly looking at Allied fighters against the low layered CAP. So the usual sweeping rules won't really be as relevant, especially the P-47 and other high altitude monsters flying at >40k. It's designed to beat them, and it does the job, surprisingly. The P-47 has suffered in this one at about 1:1 throughout the versions. The 'N' does do better, but I thought the extra speed would make it dominant as it was in my first game. It doesn't.

The P-51H up high is okay against a low CAP, but I bet if used at 20k it would work well, since it has a bump in maneouvre as well as speed (23 at <20k).

The Tempest should be a good mix too.

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ORIGINAL: tolsdorff

wow. what an enormous number of soviet troops. Amazing that your army in Keijo is in such good shape after that red tsunami came along


It's 142 units!!!

This is why I think stacking limits is just a good idea all around for the health of the game.

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Still going here. A lot to catch up on.

The Allies are pushing up into the NW of China, toward Sian. Their attacks are hurting the defenders in x3 but they haven't broken through yet. This has at least given time to get another block in place North of Sian.

The most important retreat from Manchuria to Korea has gone surprisingly well. I had thought I'd get some units caught, and there was the potential that some of the Soviet tanks could whip around and cut off big armies. They haven't and the blocks in x3 across from Keijo to Genzan are now in place.

A very important hold happened one hex to the East of Keijo on the 30th. A small IJA force led by only two divisions held off seven Guards Rifle Divisions!!

Reinforcements will move in next turn and this will hold for the foreseeable future.

Massive B-29 strikes are working down the defenders at Peiping.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 26, 1945
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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 65477 troops, 1373 guns, 1300 vehicles, Assault Value = 2287

Defending force 52456 troops, 479 guns, 98 vehicles, Assault Value = 1310

Japanese ground losses:
269 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Genzan (105,48)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 44726 troops, 1148 guns, 795 vehicles, Assault Value = 3880

Defending force 136483 troops, 1535 guns, 700 vehicles, Assault Value = 3559

Allied ground losses:
130 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 27, 1945
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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 86540 troops, 1553 guns, 1718 vehicles, Assault Value = 2289

Defending force 52590 troops, 479 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 1314

Allied adjusted assault: 1197

Japanese adjusted defense: 3232

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3287 casualties reported
Squads: 45 destroyed, 326 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 71 (5 destroyed, 66 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (6 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3677 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 402 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Guns lost 94 (3 destroyed, 91 disabled)
Vehicles lost 25 (4 destroyed, 21 disabled)

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Ground combat at Tunghua (106,44)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 56057 troops, 899 guns, 234 vehicles, Assault Value = 2103

Defending force 8847 troops, 211 guns, 91 vehicles, Assault Value = 71

Allied adjusted assault: 1562

Japanese adjusted defense: 232

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tunghua !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2554 casualties reported
Squads: 53 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 85 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 43 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 105 (85 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 76 (72 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units retreated 11

Allied ground losses:
538 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 103 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Units pursuing 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
157th Rifle Division
208th Tank Brigade
386th Rifle Division
205th Tank Brigade
365th Rifle Division
335th Rifle Division
226th Rifle Brigade

Defending units:
5th Manchukuo Cav Brigade
13th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
92nd Field AA Battalion
88th Field AA Battalion
52nd JAAF AF Bn
85th Field AA Battalion
74th Field AA Battalion
56th JAAF AF Bn
26th JAAF Base Force
78th JAAF AF Bn

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 28, 1945
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Afternoon Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 11
Liberator GR.VI x 13
A-20G Havoc x 10
A-26B Invader x 53
P-51D Mustang x 98
P-51H Mustang x 9
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 4
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 4
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 6
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 15
PV-1 Ventura x 10
PV-2 Harpoon x 13

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 2 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 6 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 5 damaged
A-26B Invader: 26 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged
PV-2 Harpoon: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

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Afternoon Air attack on 56th Division, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 4
B-29-25 Superfort x 46

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
199 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 17000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Naval bombardment of Taihoku at 87,63

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 6 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed on ground
E13A1b Jake: 1 damaged
N1K5-J George: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CB Alaska
CL Springfield
CLAA San Diego
DD Hobby
DD Welles
DD Ingraham
DD Twining
DD The Sullivans
DD Bearss
DMS Harding

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 27

CB Alaska firing at 50th Division

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 29, 1945
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Morning Air attack on 20th Division, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 4
B-29-25 Superfort x 37

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 17000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 15021 troops, 176 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 486

Defending force 9341 troops, 120 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 205

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 210

Japanese adjusted defense: 172

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
466 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled

Allied ground losses:
491 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled

Assaulting units:
39th Indian Division
100th Indian Brigade
99th Indian Brigade
98th Indian Brigade

Defending units:
120th Division
Sasebo 3rd SNLF
56th Const Co
82nd JAAF AF Bn
8th JNAF Coy
32nd JAAF AF Coy
4th Air Division
4th Fleet
4th JAAF AF Coy

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Ground combat at 105,45 (near Tunghua)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3600 troops, 18 guns, 234 vehicles, Assault Value = 133

Defending force 65933 troops, 707 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 1808

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 5110

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
381 casualties reported
Squads: 32 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 74 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 20 (20 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 201 (47 destroyed, 154 disabled)

Assaulting units:
205th Tank Brigade

Defending units:
79th Ind.Mixed Brigade
29th Division
148th Division
149th Division
24th Division
138th Division
5th Manchukuo Cav Brigade
74th Field AA Battalion
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
30th RF Gun Battalion
88th Field AA Battalion
26th JAAF Base Force
90th Field AA Battalion
69th JAAF AF Bn
92nd Field AA Battalion
56th JAAF AF Bn
52nd JAAF AF Bn
17th JNAF AF Unit
85th Field AA Battalion
78th JAAF AF Bn

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 30, 1945
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Morning Air attack on 28th Division, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 3
B-29-25 Superfort x 152
B-29B Superfort x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 17 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
228 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 28 (1 destroyed, 27 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 28th Division, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 24
B-29-25 Superfort x 185
B-29B Superfort x 60

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 7 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 7 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
353 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 49 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 18 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 21st JAAF AF Bn , at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 7
B-29-25 Superfort x 31
B-29B Superfort x 51

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 4 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 11 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
166 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 36 (4 destroyed, 32 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 18 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Peiping (95,39)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 87963 troops, 1858 guns, 1400 vehicles, Assault Value = 4899

Defending force 73976 troops, 748 guns, 510 vehicles, Assault Value = 2093

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 1193

Japanese adjusted defense: 7533

Allied assault odds: 1 to 6 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), disruption(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1170 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 75 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 26 (1 destroyed, 25 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1469 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 389 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Guns lost 95 (3 destroyed, 92 disabled)
Vehicles lost 40 (3 destroyed, 37 disabled)

Assaulting units:
23rd Indian Division
7th Indian Division
110th Guards Rifle Division
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
735th SU Regiment
43rd Tank Brigade
5th Mongolian Cavalry Division
25th Mechanized Brigade
363rd Rifle Brigade
33rd Tank Battalion
59th Cavalry Division
9th Indian Division
3rd Motorized Rifle Regiment
766th Tank Battalion
111th Tank Division
109th Guards Rifle Division
710th Tank Battalion
172nd Brigade
762nd Tank Battalion
50th Tank Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
3rd Mongolian Tank Regiment
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
408th PVO AA Battalion
X Corps Artillery
8th Medium Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
17th AA Division
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
1141st Cannon Regiment
6th Guards Tank Army
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
37th VVS Base Force

Defending units:
56th Division
62nd Division
4th RGC Route Brigade
105th NCPC Route Brigade
1st Ind.Tank Brigade
20th Division
28th Division
109th Division
NCPC Army
4th Medium Mortar Battalion
12th RF Gun Battalion
43rd Army
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Medium Mortar Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
69th JNAF AF Unit
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
25th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
19th RF Gun Battalion
26th RF Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
21st JAAF AF Bn

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Ground combat at 104,50 (near Keijo)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 67393 troops, 1041 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 3193

Defending force 26685 troops, 343 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 727

Allied adjusted assault: 1016

Japanese adjusted defense: 1747

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
851 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 79 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 46 (3 destroyed, 43 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3460 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 654 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 44 (3 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Assaulting units:
293rd Rifle Division
210th Rifle Division
17th Guards Rifle Division
358th Rifle Division
124th Rifle Division
36th Motor Rifle Division
298th Rifle Division

Defending units:
150th Division
122nd Division
Hachijo-jima Naval Guard Unit
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Mortar Battalion
86th Field AA Battalion
22nd Field AA Machinecannon Company
17th Naval Construction Battalion

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The Allies make some progress, getting a Marine ID up to Sian on the yellow roads to take the base. I'll try to keep the hold on the road blocking the main force until it breaks to delay.

Peiping begins to crumble, slowly, and Taihoku falls.

The Allies try their first ever raid on Tokyo; a small strike at night with Devastators at 17k and B-29s at 33k!

Must be to assess the defence. I'll up the NF groups here, but flak is very strong. Crazy that there have been no strikes on Tokyo or Osaka. Or Kobe, Gifu, Maebashi, Yokohama, Chiba, Okayama, Hiroshima or Hamamatsu.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 1, 1945
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Ground combat at Sian (83,41)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1632 troops, 6 guns, 147 vehicles, Assault Value = 79

Defending force 7576 troops, 90 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 156

Allied adjusted assault: 106

Japanese adjusted defense: 142

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
247 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
763rd Tank Battalion

Defending units:
1st NCPC Route Brigade
49th Ind.Mixed Bde /2
7th Base Force
30th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 84857 troops, 1554 guns, 1717 vehicles, Assault Value = 2068

Defending force 50271 troops, 477 guns, 97 vehicles, Assault Value = 1080

Allied adjusted assault: 1439

Japanese adjusted defense: 2866

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2723 casualties reported
Squads: 61 destroyed, 213 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 60 (7 destroyed, 53 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2228 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 234 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 44 disabled
Guns lost 42 (1 destroyed, 41 disabled)
Vehicles lost 39 (2 destroyed, 37 disabled)

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 2, 1945
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Ground combat at Ankang (82,42)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25542 troops, 374 guns, 271 vehicles, Assault Value = 807

Defending force 20845 troops, 156 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 698

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
19th Motorised Division
11th Indian Division
95th Coast AA Regiment
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment

Defending units:
2nd Ching An Tui Brigade
58th Division
88th Division

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 3, 1945
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 11
P1Y2-S Frances x 7
Ki-102c Randy x 9

Allied aircraft
B-32 Dominator x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-32 Dominator: 2 damaged
B-32 Dominator: 2 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-32 Dominator bombing from 17000 feet
Port Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 11
P1Y2-S Frances x 5
Ki-102c Randy x 9

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 33000 feet
Port Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Peleliu at 90,98

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Farenholt, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B6N2a Jill bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Peleliu at 90,98

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Farenholt, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Farenholt
Massive explosion on DD Farenholt

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Morning Air attack on 62nd Division, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 63
B-29B Superfort x 116

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 4 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29B Superfort: 25 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
659 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 96 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)

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Ground combat at Peiping (95,39)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 93119 troops, 1826 guns, 4559 vehicles, Assault Value = 8598

Defending force 70975 troops, 744 guns, 503 vehicles, Assault Value = 1940

Allied adjusted assault: 1581

Japanese adjusted defense: 8381

Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1124 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 42 (1 destroyed, 41 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (9 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
882 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 191 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 45 (8 destroyed, 37 disabled)
Vehicles lost 229 (21 destroyed, 208 disabled)

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Ground combat at Taihoku (87,63)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 41488 troops, 603 guns, 823 vehicles, Assault Value = 2701

Defending force 30643 troops, 239 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 792

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 1042

Japanese adjusted defense: 312

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
3677 casualties reported
Squads: 37 destroyed, 226 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 86 (23 destroyed, 63 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
932 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 123 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 21 (2 destroyed, 19 disabled)

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14732 troops, 177 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 445

Defending force 8150 troops, 122 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 257

Japanese adjusted defense: 31

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Palembang !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
831 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 71 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 62 (62 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
100th Indian Brigade
39th Indian Division
99th Indian Brigade
98th Indian Brigade

Defending units:
120th Division
4th Air Division
56th Const Co
32nd JAAF AF Coy
Sasebo 3rd SNLF
82nd JAAF AF Bn
8th JNAF Coy
4th Fleet
4th JAAF AF Coy

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Ground combat at Peiping (95,39)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 302951 troops, 5104 guns, 5705 vehicles, Assault Value = 8528

Defending force 70513 troops, 741 guns, 496 vehicles, Assault Value = 1868

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 3865

Japanese adjusted defense: 5649

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4293 casualties reported
Squads: 56 destroyed, 347 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 100 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled
Guns lost 109 (36 destroyed, 73 disabled)
Vehicles lost 32 (2 destroyed, 30 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
5414 casualties reported
Squads: 73 destroyed, 531 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 97 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 55 disabled
Guns lost 163 (11 destroyed, 152 disabled)
Vehicles lost 159 (14 destroyed, 145 disabled)

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Ground combat at Sian (83,41)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 15998 troops, 156 guns, 272 vehicles, Assault Value = 538

Defending force 6517 troops, 89 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 85

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 360

Japanese adjusted defense: 14

Allied assault odds: 25 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Sian !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1577 casualties reported
Squads: 73 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 108 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 23 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 27 (24 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Allied ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
763rd Tank Battalion
4th Marine Division

Defending units:
1st NCPC Route Brigade
49th Ind.Mixed Bde /5
7th Base Force
9th Mongol Cavalry Division
30th JNAF AF Unit

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The situation in NW China.




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The Allies bludgeon Peping with B-29 attacks. These slowly ramp up from 100/day to between 600-700 B-29s (!!!)by the 10th, when a final shock attack takes the base. The defendes did well, took a tithe from the Allies and actually retreated rather than surrendering, which I'd not expected. They're now in a x3 hex to the West fro Peiping, offroad. That's good, as it's in LR CAP range from PortArthur. I can still get a few points back for these troops I hope.

Other than that, the mop-up in the SRA continues, with Batavia falling to the Aussies. All of Sumatra and Java now in Allied hands, with Balikpapan still uninvaded. Some resources are stilll transiting from Babeldaob, loading in a few small bases nearby. I'll keep this going until he stops it.

The Korean blocking positions are now very firmly established. I don't think the Soviets will be able to break through for a good while. Troops from Peiping will come down, but will be a bit beat up too.

In NW China the blocks are now in place to guard the mountain approaches to the Central plains. Tanks are railing over too to provide a reserve since the bulk of Allied units seem to be heading either up here or to Shanghai. I'm sure the Formosa troops will land across soon enough as well. Hong Kong and Canton are still well defended. I'll have to get blocks in place farther up to the SW of Changsha in the rough woods.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 6, 1945
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Morning Air attack on 20th Division, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 36

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Peiping (95,39)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 54940 troops, 1435 guns, 2879 vehicles, Assault Value = 7789

Defending force 66145 troops, 713 guns, 494 vehicles, Assault Value = 1494

Allied adjusted assault: 473

Japanese adjusted defense: 7641

Allied assault odds: 1 to 16 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
458 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 55 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (3 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
549 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 83 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 32 (14 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 106 (14 destroyed, 92 disabled)

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 7, 1945
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Morning Air attack on 109th Division, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 29

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Peiping (95,39)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 214371 troops, 4234 guns, 2981 vehicles, Assault Value = 7792

Defending force 65720 troops, 712 guns, 491 vehicles, Assault Value = 1438

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 2887

Japanese adjusted defense: 6701

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1999 casualties reported
Squads: 43 destroyed, 100 disabled
Non Combat: 49 destroyed, 72 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 74 (14 destroyed, 60 disabled)
Vehicles lost 53 (7 destroyed, 46 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
5415 casualties reported
Squads: 29 destroyed, 608 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 95 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 55 disabled
Guns lost 116 (10 destroyed, 106 disabled)
Vehicles lost 45 (3 destroyed, 42 disabled)

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 9, 1945
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Ground combat at Kagi (85,64)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 5757 troops, 6 guns, 436 vehicles, Assault Value = 283

Defending force 6986 troops, 37 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 192

Allied adjusted assault: 348

Japanese adjusted defense: 30

Allied assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kagi !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
893 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 14 (4 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
126 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 26 (2 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
Groupement Massu Brigade

Defending units:
75th Ind.Mixed Brigade
16th Naval Guard Unit

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Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15110 troops, 94 guns, 107 vehicles, Assault Value = 490

Defending force 1749 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 62

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 390

Japanese adjusted defense: 31

Allied assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Batavia !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
720 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
4th Australian/A Division
2nd Australian Division
6th Infantry Div /19

Defending units:
89th Naval Guard Unit
14th JAAF AF Coy

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 10, 1945
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Morning Air attack on 28th Division, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 5
A-26C Invader x 4
B-29-1 Superfort x 5
B-29-25 Superfort x 7
B-29B Superfort x 6
Tu-2S x 32

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged
Tu-2S: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
518 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Tu-2S bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 28th Division, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 18
B-29B Superfort x 3
Tu-2S x 30

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
456 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Tu-2S bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 62nd Division, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 5
B-29-1 Superfort x 29
B-29-25 Superfort x 226
B-29B Superfort x 81

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 7 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 21 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
1085 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 92 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 79 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 18 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Tank Brigade, at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 5
B-29-1 Superfort x 7
B-29-25 Superfort x 58
B-29B Superfort x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 4 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 15 (4 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 18 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 21st JAAF AF Bn , at 95,39 (Peiping)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 5
B-29-25 Superfort x 48

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
146 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 24 (3 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 25 (1 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Peiping (95,39)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 296342 troops, 5111 guns, 5700 vehicles, Assault Value = 7648

Defending force 58681 troops, 693 guns, 479 vehicles, Assault Value = 1146

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 4633

Japanese adjusted defense: 1189

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Peiping !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
24370 casualties reported
Squads: 601 destroyed, 117 disabled
Non Combat: 610 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 113 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 402 (381 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 253 (253 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 20

Allied ground losses:
3688 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 392 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Guns lost 69 (1 destroyed, 68 disabled)
Vehicles lost 100 (9 destroyed, 91 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
5th Mongolian Cavalry Division
110th Guards Rifle Division
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
735th SU Regiment
111th Tank Division
12th Rifle Division
43rd Tank Brigade
59th Cavalry Division
25th Mechanized Brigade
710th Tank Battalion
1st Guards Airborne Division
355th Rifle Division
5th Rifle Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
6th Rifle Division
23rd Indian Division
52nd Rifle Division
3rd Motorized Rifle Regiment
363rd Rifle Brigade
243rd Rifle Division
9th Indian Division
762nd Tank Battalion
5th Australian Division
7th Indian Division
33rd Tank Battalion
109th Guards Rifle Division
172nd Brigade
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
19th Guards Rifle Division
766th Tank Battalion
3rd Mongolian Tank Regiment
X Corps Artillery
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
53rd Army
XIV US Corps
6th Medium Regiment
152nd Cannon Brigade
131st Field Artillery Battalion
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
77th Heavy AA Regiment
XV Indian Corps
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
17th AA Division
408th PVO AA Battalion
1141st Cannon Regiment
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1917th AA Regiment
165th Field Artillery Battalion
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
461st Mortar Regiment
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
6th Guards Tank Army
8th Medium Regiment
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
1st Medium Regiment
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
239th/376th AA Battalion
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
134th Field Artillery Battalion
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
37th VVS Base Force

Defending units:
28th Division
56th Division
20th Division
1st Ind.Tank Brigade
62nd Division
109th Division
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
NCPC Army
12th RF Gun Battalion
43rd Army
26th RF Gun Battalion
19th RF Gun Battalion
4th RGC Route Brigade
69th JNAF AF Unit
4th Medium Mortar Battalion
25th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
5th Medium Mortar Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
21st JAAF AF Bn

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The Allies try a major air offensive over Japan, hitting several dozen smaller airfields, but without any sweeps in advance. Or ... the Allies forget to rest arriving air groups and this results in a massacre of 4E over the Japanese home islands!

Small packet of 7-35 4Es hit a variety of targets, but all aiming for airfields, not strategic targets. They did hit some planes on the ground, destroying about 40, but lost over 140 4Es on the day, including about 35+ of the newly arrived B-17G.

Seeing these planes in theatre signifies a dramatic change in the situation of defense. There will be more organized and combined raids soon with 500-1,000 planes taking part. Strategic targets will not be able to be defended, but the defenses have to get some points back, so an increase in fighter concentrations over Tokyo, Osaka, Hiroshima and Nagasaki will be set up. Also, I'll convert more training groups to kami CAP, get NF into more supporting and concentrated positions, and bring all remaining AA units off of Hokkaido. Most strat targets are wiped out there.

There will be a lot of new things coming soon.

On the 12th there were only the milkrun bombings in China and a few important ground actions. The Allies crashed over the river into Shanghai, destroying a bunch of tanks and guns, and di the same with three armored units NW of Sian, onto the block on the yellow road to the Central plains. The three tank units there were pretty messed up, which is good, but 25 more units are moving, so I won't attempt to push them back. Just sit and dig. I have 1300AV of experienced troops from Burma here, two IDs in the 90s for experience.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 11, 1945
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Night Naval bombardment of Shanghai at 92,55 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

26 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee
CA Quincy
CL Santa Fe
DD Young
DD Wren
DD Wedderburn
DD Walker
DD Wadsworth
DD Thatcher
DD Prichett
DD Newcomb

Japanese ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Light Industry hits 2
Manpower hits 4
Fires 3887
Airbase hits 10
Runway hits 40
Port hits 12
Port fuel hits 1

BB Tennessee firing at Shanghai

Morning Air attack on Bihoro , at 123,51

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 12
B-29-25 Superfort x 15

Allied aircraft losses
A-20G Havoc: 2 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 7 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x A-20G Havoc bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Kanoya , at 102,61

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
N1K5-J George x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3
Ki-83 x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 3
Ki-102a Randy x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 40

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Oita , at 104,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 7
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 8

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
D4Y4 Judy: 6 destroyed on ground
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed on ground
E13A1b Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Oita , at 104,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
D4Y4 Judy: 4 destroyed on ground
E13A1b Jake: 1 destroyed on ground
D4Y2-C Judy: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 8 damaged

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hachijo-jima , at 113,64

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 40
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 76

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 10
N1K5-J George x 36

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 7
N1K5-J George x 32

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sendai , at 117,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 52 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 5
N1K5-J George x 28

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Gifu , at 110,59

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 15
Ki-84a Frank x 5
Ki-84b Frank x 22
Ki-102b Randy x 15

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 damaged
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-84a Frank: 1 damaged
Ki-84b Frank: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-84b Frank: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 14
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Banzai! - Fukudome S. in a Ki-84b Frank rams a B-29-25 Superfort for the Emperor
Banzai! - Maeda G. in a Ki-102b Randy rams a B-29-25 Superfort for the Emperor

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Morning Air attack on Fukuyama , at 107,58

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 11

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Utsonomiya , at 115,60

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 8
Ki-84b Frank x 9
Ki-84r Frank x 20
Ki-100-I Tony x 8
Ki-102b Randy x 26

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 8 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Iwaki , at 116,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100-II Tony x 24
Ki-102b Randy x 16

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Iwaki , at 116,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100-II Tony x 17
Ki-102b Randy x 13

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Tokuyama , at 105,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 3
Ki-102b Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Kanoya , at 102,61

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
N1K5-J George x 8
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 2
Ki-83 x 2
Ki-102a Randy x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Chiba , at 114,61

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 22
Ki-100-I Tony x 8

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Niigata , at 114,57

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 37

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Niigata , at 114,57

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 29

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Kurume , at 103,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 17
Ki-84b Frank x 23

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Kurume , at 103,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 14
Ki-84b Frank x 22

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-84b Frank: 2 damaged
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Lanchow (81,34)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 11147 troops, 148 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 351

Defending force 12941 troops, 88 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 424

Allied adjusted assault: 80

Japanese adjusted defense: 1109

Allied assault odds: 1 to 13 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
541 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 100 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Assaulting units:
68th Mountain Rifle Division

Defending units:
8th NCPC Infantry Brigade
49th Ind.Mixed Brigade
53rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
39th Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 12, 1945
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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 49069 troops, 473 guns, 98 vehicles, Assault Value = 979

Defending force 9759 troops, 211 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 285

Japanese adjusted assault: 1146

Allied adjusted defense: 832

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2394 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 128 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled

Allied ground losses:
595 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 75 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 39 (1 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Assaulting units:
85th Ind.Mixed Brigade
89th Division
1st Amphibious Brigade
16th RGC Temp. Division
30th Division
72nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
22nd RF Gun Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
40th Infantry Division
848th Engineer Aviation Battalion

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Ground combat at Shanghai (92,55)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3432 troops, 181 guns, 149 vehicles, Assault Value = 730

Defending force 96590 troops, 829 guns, 172 vehicles, Assault Value = 2843

Assault collapses, survivors seek cover

Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 93 (79 destroyed, 14 disabled)
Vehicles lost 71 (51 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
815th Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
XIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
1st Marine Division
154th FA Bn
225th Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
694th Field Artillery Battalion
XI US Corps
XXIV CorpsArtillery

Defending units:
RGC Tax Police Regiment
161st Division
90th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd RGC Capital Division
131st Division
89th Ind.Mixed Brigade
38th Division
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
52nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
61st Ind.Mixed Brigade
132nd Division
Det. 3rd Special Base Force
North China Gsn Brigade
10th RGC Temp. Division
Shanghai SNLF
67th Naval Guard Unit
4th Base Force /1
13th Air Division
Chugoku JNAF Base Force
Shanghai Special Base Force
3rd Special Base Force
57th JAAF AF Bn
28th RF Gun Battalion
129th JAAF AF Bn
20th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
60th JAAF AF Bn
China Area Fleet
41st JNAF AF Unit /2

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Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 2988 troops, 12 guns, 355 vehicles, Assault Value = 179

Defending force 51754 troops, 490 guns, 235 vehicles, Assault Value = 1392

Allied adjusted assault: 104

Japanese adjusted defense: 5137

Allied assault odds: 1 to 49

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
262 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 15 (10 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 122 (61 destroyed, 61 disabled)

Assaulting units:
754th Tank Battalion
763rd Tank Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment

Defending units:
55th/A Division
18th/B Division
55th/C Division
55th/B Division
16th/A Division
18th/A Division
16th/B Division
18th/C Division
16th/C Division
121st AA Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
12th Army
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
69th Field AA Battalion

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Not much action in the air these turns after the big losses on the 11th, bu some very nice developments on the ground.

The Allies held near Sian against a shock attack from the IJA, so I'll stop here and move these troops across country toward Anking. These will get there but it'll take a while. I think Anking will hold until they arrive based on the what the Allies have there (only 1200AV).

To the NW of Sian the blockade on the river crossing hex was shocked by the 4th Marine ID. It was almost completely wiped out, with 350 devices destroyed and another 436 disabled. That means of course there is not enough here to prevent another forced shock by follow-on troops. It also means a lot of nice permanent VPs and another headache for the Allies. I assume he'll begin heavier bombing here and eventually a much bigger crossing. Hopefully my tank ID will arrive in time for that!

Takao was attacked, and will not last long.

The troops formerly of Peiping are being hit now by aobut 150 Soviet bombers/day. This is good, as I'm about ready to send some Ki-83 up there to interdict from Port Arthur. No sweeps have been involved, so this could be fun.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 13, 1945
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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 47359 troops, 473 guns, 98 vehicles, Assault Value = 834

Defending force 9247 troops, 211 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 220

Japanese adjusted assault: 718

Allied adjusted defense: 745

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2559 casualties reported
Squads: 61 destroyed, 185 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 32 disabled
Guns lost 45 (4 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
186 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 11 disabled
Vehicles lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
30th Division
72nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
85th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Amphibious Brigade
89th Division
16th RGC Temp. Division
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd RF Gun Battalion
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
40th Infantry Division
848th Engineer Aviation Battalion

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Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 14438 troops, 150 guns, 125 vehicles, Assault Value = 567

Defending force 51292 troops, 490 guns, 235 vehicles, Assault Value = 1360

Allied adjusted assault: 1

Japanese adjusted defense: 6208

Allied assault odds: 1 to 6208

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: shock(+)

Allied ground losses:
4070 casualties reported
Squads: 306 destroyed, 190 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 87 disabled
Engineers: 31 destroyed, 33 disabled
Guns lost 118 (6 destroyed, 112 disabled)
Vehicles lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th Marine Division
754th Tank Battalion
763rd Tank Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment

Defending units:
18th Division
16th Division
55th Division
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
12th Army
121st AA Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
69th Field AA Battalion

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 14, 1945
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Morning Air attack on 109th Division, at 94,39 , near Paoting

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
IL-4T x 21
Li-2VV x 6
Tu-2S x 38

Allied aircraft losses
Tu-2S: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
173 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Tu-2S bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 kg GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 15, 1945
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Morning Air attack on 56th Division, at 94,39 , near Paoting

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
IL-4T x 21
Li-2VV x 12
Tu-2S x 20

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
87 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Tu-2S bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1608 troops, 67 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 1374

Defending force 12242 troops, 148 guns, 397 vehicles, Assault Value = 153

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (6 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
16th Division
18th Division
55th Division
12th Army
121st AA Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
69th Field AA Battalion

Defending units:
4th Marine Division
763rd Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment

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Ground combat at Takao (84,65)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 126629 troops, 1687 guns, 2713 vehicles, Assault Value = 4802

Defending force 39546 troops, 207 guns, 184 vehicles, Assault Value = 816

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 1883

Japanese adjusted defense: 1114

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5626 casualties reported
Squads: 201 destroyed, 146 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 160 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 56 (25 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Vehicles lost 29 (10 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
1240 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 223 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 37 disabled
Guns lost 33 (1 destroyed, 32 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (3 destroyed, 20 disabled)

Assaulting units:
193rd Tank Battalion
2nd British Division
17th Motorised Division
XXIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
255th Indian Tank Brigade
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
Groupement Massu Brigade
9th Australian Division
Provisionl Tank Brigade
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
18th British Division
81st (West African) Division
32nd Infantry Division
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
First Army Combat Engineer Regiment
25th Indian Division
9th Colonial Division
82nd (West African) Div /4
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
6th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
2/11th Field Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment
1st Indian Medium Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment

Defending units:
100th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Kaosing Fortress
76th Ind.Mixed Brigade
102nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
5th South Seas Det. /2
112th Ind.Mixed Brigade
103rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
34th Ind.Mixed Bde /2
17th Army
10th Area Army
8th Air Division
Takao Naval Base Force
1st Glider Inf. Rgt /1
Maloelap Base Force /1

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Heijo has been transformed into a very large Allied airfield, and I'll take a stab at hitting it since there are relatively few fighters there. This would be a rare chance if I can pull it off. Sweeps and about 300 2E flying from Hiroshima will try it out. Fingers crossed.




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