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Mike Solli -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:34:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Yeah, that's for later... We can't give away all of the goodies right now...[:D]


[X(] OMG more goodies??!! [:D]




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:34:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jamesm

What is meant by "Stand Down to Repair'? Is that related to major repairs?


Yeah. If you want to stick a ship in drydock, you have to stand it down. Just means that it won't be ready to deploy immediately.




Mike Solli -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:35:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus


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ORIGINAL: jamesm

What is meant by "Stand Down to Repair'? Is that related to major repairs?


Yeah. If you want to stick a ship in drydock, you have to stand it down. Just means that it won't be ready to deploy immediately.


What does standing a ship down get you? Quicker repairs? Are there limits to the number of ships you can stand down?




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:37:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli


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ORIGINAL: Terminus


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ORIGINAL: jamesm

What is meant by "Stand Down to Repair'? Is that related to major repairs?


Yeah. If you want to stick a ship in drydock, you have to stand it down. Just means that it won't be ready to deploy immediately.


What does standing a ship down get you? Quicker repairs? Are there limits to the number of ships you can stand down?


No, it's simply necessary to access the most effective kinds of repair, especially for major damage. Hence the "If you want to stick a ship in drydock, you have to stand it down."...[;)]




Brady -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:52:24 PM)

Drydock, So for example is this drydock at Nouma represent as a mobile assest or abstracted in the game as it was in WiTP?:

[img]http://www.oniva.com/upload/2131/335.jpg[/img]






Captain Cruft -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:53:23 PM)

Do ships disbanded in port count against the port's tonnage limit? 




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:54:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brady

Drydock, So for example is this drydock at Nouma represent as a mobile assest or abstracted in the game as it was in WiTP?:

[img]http://www.oniva.com/upload/2131/335.jpg[/img]





Actually the mobile drydocks are in as a new ship type (ARD).




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:55:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft

Do ships disbanded in port count against the port's tonnage limit?


Yes. That's what the tonnage limit is for.




Brady -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:55:29 PM)

! How cool is that[:)]




Mike Solli -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:57:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Actually the mobile drydocks are in as a new ship type (ARD).


Do the Japanese get any? (Please, please, please......) [:D]




Captain Cruft -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:57:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Terminus


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ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft

Do ships disbanded in port count against the port's tonnage limit?


Yes. That's what the tonnage limit is for.


OK good :)

So ...

Do ships "docked" and loading/unloading also count against the limit?
How are ships that are merely "anchored" represented? On the TF screen or the individual ship screens?




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:58:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Actually the mobile drydocks are in as a new ship type (ARD).


Do the Japanese get any? (Please, please, please......) [:D]


Can you show me that they had some?[:'(]

Like I said, the ARD is a ship type, so any modder can shove some Japanese ones in there...




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:59:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft

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ORIGINAL: Terminus


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ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft

Do ships disbanded in port count against the port's tonnage limit?


Yes. That's what the tonnage limit is for.


OK good :)

So ...

Do ships "docked" and loading/unloading also count against the limit?
How are ships that are merely "anchored" represented? On the TF screen or the individual ship screens?


Docked and disbanded, yes. Anchored, no. An anchored ship on the port roads will always be in a TF, so they'll be shown there.




Mike Solli -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 10:59:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus


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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Actually the mobile drydocks are in as a new ship type (ARD).


Do the Japanese get any? (Please, please, please......) [:D]


Can you show me that they had some?[:'(]

Like I said, the ARD is a ship type, so any modder can shove some Japanese ones in there...


Now I have a mission. I will find some.




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:00:47 PM)

It's good to have goals...[:D]




Mike Solli -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:03:28 PM)

Yeah, especially these kinds of goals. So, if, no when I find some, you'll add them to the game????  [:D]




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:04:18 PM)

If you can show me some good research...[;)]




Mike Solli -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:09:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

If you can show me some good research...[;)]


Of course. I'm on it. [:D]




BigJ62 -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:23:15 PM)

Will there be any sharks in the game?




Knavey -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:26:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus


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ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund

Naval bombardment? We all know, and hate, the fact that you can run BBs back and forth between bases and targets and generally blast an enemy base into oblivion with your BBs.

1) Will there be some sort of limit on where a BB (or indeed any capital ship) can resupply ammunition? It is rather ludicrous to think that a tiny island in the middle of the pacific should happen to have thousands of 16 inch shells just laying there waiting for a BB to come by and reload. Can we make "capital ship ammo" something scarce, like torpedos now perhaps...that can only be reloaded in the presence of an AE, or at a level 6 port?

2) Will shore bombardment be changed?


1) Ship resupply is being refurbished for increased realism.

2) Yes, shore bombardment has been (and is being) reworked, to hopefully make it a bit more realistic. The day of the nuclear shore bombardment is over and done with.

Plus, armed landing craft now work, and we're using the shore bombardment screen.[:D]


You know what really sucks about the change above! As an long time Allied player, I will never get to capitalize on it the old way! I have put up with nukes for years, and am just now getting to the point I could force a couple for the Allies side.

Oh well...




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:26:36 PM)

[:D]




Brady -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:32:16 PM)

I know the Japanese Built some during the war in SE Asia (Drydocks), I have a passage or two in a book about the real story regarding the bridge on the river Kuie, so of the work gangs had to "dig" one out in Indochina for a bit...




Brady -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:33:56 PM)

Do subs still shoot their entire load at any one ship or has a more realisitc aproach been worked out?




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:37:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Knavey


quote:

ORIGINAL: Terminus


quote:

ORIGINAL: Panzerjaeger Hortlund

Naval bombardment? We all know, and hate, the fact that you can run BBs back and forth between bases and targets and generally blast an enemy base into oblivion with your BBs.

1) Will there be some sort of limit on where a BB (or indeed any capital ship) can resupply ammunition? It is rather ludicrous to think that a tiny island in the middle of the pacific should happen to have thousands of 16 inch shells just laying there waiting for a BB to come by and reload. Can we make "capital ship ammo" something scarce, like torpedos now perhaps...that can only be reloaded in the presence of an AE, or at a level 6 port?

2) Will shore bombardment be changed?


1) Ship resupply is being refurbished for increased realism.

2) Yes, shore bombardment has been (and is being) reworked, to hopefully make it a bit more realistic. The day of the nuclear shore bombardment is over and done with.

Plus, armed landing craft now work, and we're using the shore bombardment screen.[:D]


You know what really sucks about the change above! As an long time Allied player, I will never get to capitalize on it the old way! I have put up with nukes for years, and am just now getting to the point I could force a couple for the Allies side.

Oh well...


You've got a little while to do that yet...




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:38:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brady

Do subs still shoot their entire load at any one ship or has a more realisitc aproach been worked out?


That's still being worked on...




Terminus -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:39:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brady

I know the Japanese Built some during the war in SE Asia (Drydocks), I have a passage or two in a book about the real story regarding the bridge on the river Kuie, so of the work gangs had to "dig" one out in Indochina for a bit...


But none that qualify as ARD's...




JWE -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:43:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brady
Also some ship types that could carry and deploy mines in the stock WiTP game could not preform this function, is this now posable? a Dual mishion type? Japanese CS class's for emample can they lay mines? or Suport midget's, and or carry float planes?

Without getting into detail, the general answer to your question(s) is yes.

A lot of attention has been paid to capturing the operational peculiarities of the IJN, especially as regards the multi-mission roles of its various combatants. The roles in which a vessel may participate, are no longer mutually exclusive, or based on a vessel’s primary ‘type’.




Brady -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:43:29 PM)

Ya I have never read anything about a Japanese mobile floating dry dock, thats not to say their was non. but, I would be suprised to find they had such a thing, the Allies did not have axcess to ship yards the way the way Japan did, she was comparatively closer to port on the whole.




Captain Cruft -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:45:21 PM)

JWE that's great, and something I long wished for.




JamesM -> RE: Admirals Edition Naval Thread (12/7/2007 11:46:30 PM)

What changes are there going t be made to the automatic convoy system?  

Because it sometimes did some very dumb moves by sending convoys through enemy territory.  Also it only sends minimal quantities of supplies to each base and would choose ships with highish levels of damaged (18+).




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