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Shazman -> RE: Curt vs Larry FITE T73 (1/24/2009 8:12:05 PM)
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ORIGINAL: mantrain
I think you need knock-out punches early on. If we look historically, we see that Adolph's only real chance was Moscow in the autumn of '41. I think it was in Oct when the population began its exit from Moscow. but what did Adolph do? I think he got greedy and and army group south go for the caucuses oil......by the time spring of '42 came along the soviets has rebuilt all there industry, literally from the ground up, in the urals and way back in the country.. These people by the tens of thousands went to empty space, in the wild, and built from the ground up their war industry. and also, the soviet leadership was totally willing to send their units into a hamabuger machine and fight along the highest form of military attrition ever seen in the history of warfare. Stalin had no regard for his men accept as cannon fodder...
Well, actually Hitler's original plan was to exploit the Soviet resouces in the south, agricultural, industrial and natural. Also, the Soviets did not build the industry from the ground up. They simply moved their industry and all the workers. This Soviet industry for the means of destruction was begun in the mid 20s and had become very formidable.
As far as Soviet military planning. The Stallin regime began planning for a war of long duration long before the Germans. In Stalins words in July 1927 during the 'War Scare', "War is inevitable, of that there can be no doubt. But does that mean that it cannot be put off even for a few years? No, it does not. Hence the task is to put off war against the USSR either to the time when the revolution is ripe in the West or until imperialism suffers more powerful blows from the colonial countries." (The Soviet Defence-Industry Complex From Stalin to Khrushchev/Barber and Harrison)
Of course as events unfolded the possible antagonists changed. But the war planning went forward regardless of who would be fought. So, in all ways the Soviets had been planning for this war since 1927, far longer than the Axis. If Hitler knew the Soviets had 14 million reservists with at least basic military training and planned to replace the entire army every four to eight months during intense operations with the means to do so and could move thier industry beyond Germanys means to reach it do you think the invasion would have still gone on?
Also, the loss of Moscow would not have meant Soviet collapse in 1941 any more than it did during the French invasion over 100 years earlier.
Sorry Larry, for hijacking your thread. BTW, have you considered using limited attacks?
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