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aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/2/2009 8:22:16 PM)
The top aces so far... [image]local://upfiles/15617/BBED3C5BF52248D1A64D50D2B4246777.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/2/2009 8:23:14 PM)
Allied fighter pools... [image]local://upfiles/15617/41C6236676FB463E83C14EC652949968.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/2/2009 8:23:51 PM)
Allied bomber pools... [image]local://upfiles/15617/B2294E7381EA42CF8441755684CA0B2B.jpg[/image]

jrlans -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/2/2009 9:51:00 PM)
Worse than the tone down is the fact that the F model only arives for 3 months and is then phased out, meaning only heavy bomber you have is the B-24, with an even lower replacement rate. Dont expect to be able to conduct massive heavy bomber ops in any strength till mid 43.

Yamato_Blitzer -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 1:37:02 AM)
That's a really wicked world map you put up. As concerns New Guinea, does he hold every base except PM? I think he has considerable strength in the Far East but not the full blitzkrieg size force that the Japanese can throw in at this time of the game. I'd watch Aussie perimeter closely.

seydlitz_slith -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 4:39:26 AM)
I hope that you are past the worst of the flu Aztez. It sucks to get it, even more so when you have your girls for the weekend. Good job on the monthly updates. I have a couple of comments to make. 1. His armored pools have got to be depleted. Japan starts with only abou 500 points of vehicle production and much of this gets consumed early filling out understrength units. I would expect his armored units to be understrength for a couple of months to come while he builds replacements. 2. His betty losses (83) pretty much equal what he should have produced in the game. I would bet that not all of his Betty units are at full strength. 3. His zero pool is empty unless he has significantly expanded it unless he is not replacing losses in his units. Same applies for his Lily and Sally units. The Nell pool would also be very low.

rattovolante -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 9:35:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aztez I wonder whether Dave actually reads these reports too. To me these signit reports really should be ALLIED ONLY stuff but I think it is visible for him too. I don't think they are visible to Axis player. In my PBeM (I'm japanese) all the asigint reports generated so far are empty.

Swenslim -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 12:14:40 PM)
Thank you very much for such complete summary ! Japan expansion is amazing ! Historically Japan produced 200 Zeroes and 80-100 Bettys per month, so if he expanded plants he doesnt has any lack of replacemets. In my pbem games I expanded plants to produce 100 zero, 80 bettys and 100 Oscars, I think he did same.

seydlitz_slith -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 1:53:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Swenslim Thank you very much for such complete summary ! Japan expansion is amazing ! Historically Japan produced 200 Zeroes and 80-100 Bettys per month, so if he expanded plants he doesnt has any lack of replacemets. In my pbem games I expanded plants to produce 100 zero, 80 bettys and 100 Oscars, I think he did same. Yes, but at this stage in the game there is no way that he could be producing in those numbers. Since you can no longer convert R&D factories to active aircraft like you could in stock, there is a very finite number of factories. Assuming that he expanded the existing factories and converted several factories that were producing less desirable types, most of these factories would still be repairing and not at full capacity yet. Now if it were June or later I would say that you are correct, but not this early in the game.

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 7:33:50 PM)
jrlans: That is correct. The pools really are not looking good. To be honest at the moment I'am thinking on what troops I'am able to at least mount an some sort of an offensive before mid 1943. I think the tide needs to be turned way before that date. I will start checking on my options tomorrow with an clear thought. Yamato_Blitzer: Glad you liked it. Dave already controls Port Moresby. Basically he isolated the base early on so I had no possibilities to reinforce it nor supply it. I was refering to some undefended bases he needs to mop up in that region. No intel on his far eastern troop strenghts but you might be correct. It actually seems to me that japanese are able to push forwards with even greater speed with AE than they were in the witp. I know devs and some feel diffrent but I'am experiencing an diffrent story. seydlitz: Thank you. I'am feeling a bit better at least no fever so I have been able to spent quality outdoor time with the kids. Actually I have had an excellent weekend so far but that was to be expected. I sure do hope his armour pools and dry but everything on the map tells me Dave is not about to stop anytime soon. If those armoured pools are dry than he is somehow rotating his units or doesn't care about the losses since the gains are far greater. Those aircraft losses are hard to judge. I starting to think that 2/3 are actual while 1/3 of them is FOW. That is an intresting comment about his pools though since if they are empty he is not letting it stop these bombing runs. Actually I do not see any decrease on the sorties so far and this kind of pace is hurting my already depleted pools a lot. rattovolante: Thanks. That is useful information since I was thinking those reports were still visible for both sides. Good change if they did change it. Swenslim: Thanks, I'am trying to keep everyone aboard here so expect such summaries to continue in the future too. It is amazing and I think the pace of the expansion is even greater than what one could achieve in the witp. This mainly due to the ground combat model of the game. It needs quite a lot of work if you ask me. Intresting thread on the main forum.: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2256820 I think castor troy and Walloc have summarized few facts quite nicely there.

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 7:34:53 PM)
Java (april 2nd and 3rd 1942) The push continues towards Batavia and Soerabaja. Last turn japanese moved 7 units into Bandoeng and cut off few dutch units left behind. The base has been abandoned already and there is just an base force defending the hex. The road to Soerabaja is now completely open. (see pic below) I was wondering where those carriers and battleships went from Java. This was revealed last turn when our recon planes spotted them 120 miles north of Timor. There is an large scale invasion about to start. I think these ships are coming from Kendari region. The final battles should start soon and with the new ground combat model well.. I doubt they can hold too long. [image]local://upfiles/15617/F17E612D0E654761B682B811C32D3145.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 7:35:53 PM)
Samoa Islands (april 2nd and 3rd 1942) I did get careless at Savaii. I had few transports unloading supplies into the marine unit there. I thought about sending these vessels out last turn but decieded to remain just one more turn which was an mistake in hindsight. I had been wondering whether KB had actually left this region and the answer to this is no. These carriers are still here and raided Samoa Islands last turn. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pago Pago , at 148,161 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 35 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed CAP engaged: 50th PG/12th PS with P-39D Airacobra (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 11 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 30000. Raid is overhead 35th PG/40th PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 9 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 27000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes 35th PG/41st PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 9 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 22000 and 26000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pago Pago , at 148,161 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 7 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 13 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 23000 feet * CAP engaged: 35th PG/40th PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes 35th PG/41st PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes 50th PG/12th PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 9000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pago Pago , at 148,161 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 17 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 2 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 17 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 23000 feet * CAP engaged: 35th PG/41st PS with P-39D Airacobra (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pago Pago , at 148,161 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 17 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 31 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 5 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 23000 feet CAP engaged: 50th PG/12th PS with P-39D Airacobra (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 7 scrambling) 8 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 28000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes 35th PG/40th PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 26000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes 35th PG/41st PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 24000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pago Pago , at 148,161 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 3 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 1 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 24000 feet CAP engaged: 35th PG/41st PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes 50th PG/12th PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 9000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Savaii at 146,159 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 60 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 59 B5N2 Kate x 10 D3A1 Val x 13 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 damaged Allied Ships xAK Mormacdove, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires DD Humphreys xAP Maui, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAP Santa Paula, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 13 x D3A1 Val diving from 2000' * Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 10 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAP Santa Paula -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Savaii at 146,159 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 68 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 58 D3A1 Val x 19 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 8 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed Allied Ships xAP Maui, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Mormacdove, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Alcoa Pennant, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage AP Barnett, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Humphreys, Bomb hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 5 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 17000 feet 19 x D3A1 Val diving from 2000' * Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 10 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 17000 feet 9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 17000 feet 9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 17000 feet CAP engaged: 35th PG/40th PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes 35th PG/41st PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Mormacdove Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Alcoa Pennant -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Savaii at 146,159 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 21 D3A1 Val x 17 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 4 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships DD Humphreys, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Maui, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Santa Elena, Bomb hits 2, on fire AP Barnett, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Alcoa Pennant, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 13 x D3A1 Val diving from 2000' * Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo CAP engaged: 35th PG/40th PS with P-39D Airacobra (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 16000 Raid is overhead Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Alcoa Pennant Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Humphreys ...sorry about the long cut and paste here. That is the whole encounter "recorded" by the combat replay. One intresting note though. I had 3 leveled CAP here kind of an test purpose. The zero was invincible due to greater alltitude. I'am actually starting to think that the CAP might be best placed on the highest possible alltiude or around 25 000 feet even if some models get penalized doing so. We didn't hit much last turn. I didn't change any orders only upped the CAP to 90% and 10% rest. [image]local://upfiles/15617/0102B2A2D12F4AAE946DAE724F8916A6.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 7:37:07 PM)
China (april 2nd and 3rd 1942) The battle around Sian is intense. The japanese launched two ground assaults againts those trapped chinese units. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 85,43 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 39694 troops, 277 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 1055 Defending force 52786 troops, 285 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 811 Japanese adjusted assault: 286 Allied adjusted defense: 148 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 1498 casualties reported Squads: 13 destroyed, 58 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 60 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled Vehicles lost 10 (0 destroyed, 10 disabled) Allied ground losses: 3021 casualties reported Squads: 11 destroyed, 168 disabled Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 205 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled) Assaulting units: 5th Armored Car Co 13th Indpt Infantry Regiment 28th Engineer Regiment 15th Ind.Mixed Brigade 9th Armored Car Co 51st Recon Regiment 110th Division 59th Infantry Brigade 3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade 24th NCPC Route Brigade 5th Mongol Cavalry Division 15th RGC Temp. Division 8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 36th Chinese Corps 27th Chinese Corps 47th Chinese Corps 96th Chinese Corps 80th Chinese Corps 61st Chinese Corps 38th Chinese Corps 9th Chinese Corps 93rd Chinese Corps 90th Chinese/C Corps 36th Group Army 1st War Area Jingcha War Area 14th Group Army 8th Group Army 4th Chinese Base Force 10th Chinese Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 85,43 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 38837 troops, 277 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 1011 Defending force 50189 troops, 284 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 650 Japanese adjusted assault: 303 Allied adjusted defense: 124 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 897 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 43 disabled Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 30 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 13 disabled Vehicles lost 9 (7 destroyed, 2 disabled) Allied ground losses: 3074 casualties reported Squads: 29 destroyed, 79 disabled Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 128 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Assaulting units: 28th Engineer Regiment 24th NCPC Route Brigade 5th Mongol Cavalry Division 9th Armored Car Co 59th Infantry Brigade 110th Division 3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade 15th Ind.Mixed Brigade 13th Indpt Infantry Regiment 15th RGC Temp. Division 8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 61st Chinese Corps 96th Chinese Corps 80th Chinese Corps 38th Chinese Corps 36th Chinese Corps 9th Chinese Corps 47th Chinese Corps 27th Chinese Corps 93rd Chinese Corps 90th Chinese/C Corps Jingcha War Area 4th Chinese Base Force 8th Group Army 36th Group Army 14th Group Army 1st War Area 10th Chinese Base Force ...another blood bath here. I wonder how long these guys will hold out. Another disturbing news was that Dave moved 19 units towards Sian. I do expect an immediate ground assault here and I'am just hoping for good dice rolls. I'am also trying to open the road for those trapped units. I send an corps here with 250 av value and ordered them to assault. Just maybe we are able knock the enemy troops out of the hex and thus give our troops and valid retreat path. Expect more news when the next turn arrives. [image]local://upfiles/15617/5471D48A98464327B906B8051970D24B.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 7:38:28 PM)
Burma (april 2nd and 3rd 1942) As expected japanese launched an offensive againts our fortified positions at Mandalay. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Mandalay (59,46) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 17877 troops, 350 guns, 105 vehicles, Assault Value = 394 Defending force 26118 troops, 183 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 652 Japanese adjusted assault: 163 Allied adjusted defense: 240 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3) Combat modifiers Defender: experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 1364 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 60 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 58 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2264 casualties reported Squads: 20 destroyed, 115 disabled Non Combat: 34 destroyed, 165 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Guns lost 22 (10 destroyed, 12 disabled) Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled) Assaulting units: 112th Infantry Regiment 55th Cavalry Regiment 33rd Division 16th Infantry Rgt /1 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 48th Field Artillery Regiment 55th Mountain Gun Regiment 45th Field AA Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 15th Army 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Bn /1 Defending units: 2nd Burma Brigade Rangoon BAF Battalion 4/8th Ghurka Battalion BFF Brigade 2nd King Own YLI Battalion 4/14th Punjab Battalion 13th Burma Rifles Battalion Railway BAF Battalion 10th Burma Rifles Battalion 9/11th Sikh Battalion 9th Burma Rifles Battalion 1st Gloucestershire Battalion 12th Burma Rifles Battalion Mandalay BMP Battalion 6th Burma Rifles Battalion Tenasserim BAF Battalion 16th Indian Brigade 108th RAF Base Force 106th RAF Base Force 1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment 103rd RAF Base Force 27th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment Burma Corps 221 Group RAF AVG Ground Echelon We held againts the initial assault but I really don't like the odds and casualty levels. Yet again only disablements to the japanese attacker while I lost quite a few units as destroyed. The new ground combat model seems odd to me in may cases. I have ordered my army to start moving towards Schwebo. They are too exposed if left to Mandalay and can actually be encircled too easily. Another thing is that I found an BUG last turn. Well, actually just noticed it and it is simple to create. I did send an quite a few ground units on strategic movement into Dacca. The game allowed to do this and just checked where these guys where. Well, they were happily camping out in nothern india and hadn't propably moved for few turns. Oh, well... They are now set on move orders so they can reach the main railroad and than be placed on strategic movement again. If any of you have done this than check where your guys are at. [image]local://upfiles/15617/2FD82556273E4D2FA7860CA73C6BACBD.jpg[/image]

Streptokok -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/3/2009 9:11:46 PM)
quote: ...sorry about the long cut and paste here. That is the whole encounter "recorded" by the combat replay. One intresting note though. I had 3 leveled CAP here kind of an test purpose. The zero was invincible due to greater alltitude. I'am actually starting to think that the CAP might be best placed on the highest possible alltiude or around 25 000 feet even if some models get penalized doing so. We didn't hit much last turn. I didn't change any orders only upped the CAP to 90% and 10% rest. Hmmm.... From my expirience vs AI my Nates were chewed by Bufalos and 339D, on CAP @ 10k feet. Once I dropped them to 9k things went the other way. Only explanation I have is what I read in manual, says if pilots fly planes that outmaneouvre enemy planes significantly they will drag them into turnfight and use their planes higher manuv. to win. Pilots exp plays a major role to determine if this is succesful I guess. Anyway I think best CAP goes to alt of enemys bombers, or a bit over that maybe, since when ur defending you really want to stop the bombers?

Jonathan Pollard -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 1:45:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aztez Another thing is that I found an BUG last turn. Well, actually just noticed it and it is simple to create. I did send an quite a few ground units on strategic movement into Dacca. The game allowed to do this and just checked where these guys where. Well, they were happily camping out in nothern india and hadn't propably moved for few turns. Oh, well... They are now set on move orders so they can reach the main railroad and than be placed on strategic movement again. If any of you have done this than check where your guys are at. You're not the first one to find that bug. It happens any time you try strategic movement over 25 hexes. You need to do short segments of less than 25 hexes to get around this.

ADB123 -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 2:12:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jonathan Pollard quote: ORIGINAL: aztez Another thing is that I found an BUG last turn. Well, actually just noticed it and it is simple to create. I did send an quite a few ground units on strategic movement into Dacca. The game allowed to do this and just checked where these guys where. Well, they were happily camping out in nothern india and hadn't propably moved for few turns. Oh, well... They are now set on move orders so they can reach the main railroad and than be placed on strategic movement again. If any of you have done this than check where your guys are at. You're not the first one to find that bug. It happens any time you try strategic movement over 25 hexes. You need to do short segments of less than 25 hexes to get around this. That doesn't seem to be true all the time, nor in all the locations. So far for me only three out of about 12 units have "fallen off" the railroad in India going from Karachi to Calcutta. And none have done so going from the Eastern US to the West Coast.

LoBaron -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 12:12:37 PM)
i think its a good decision to retreat to Shwebo but what is the impact on the Burma road? is it still like in stock that you have to keep these tracks open to get the supply bonus for China? Looking at the road/track layout i dont see where these supplies should be coming from except from Mandaly and maybe Mvitkyina. or has this system been overhauled or removed? regarding the southpac situation: since KB is still in the area that could be confirming your previous intel. could be a larger scale operation to isolate Australia form the West Coast by occupying or at least cutting off the Fijis. i dont think that looking at the speed the japanese advanced south to Rabaul/Guadalcanal and then Noumea previousely that his carriers re just sitting there buying time. whats your LBA/LCU situation at or near suva? thinking about this if you are able to hold Suva long enough to bring your CV´s to bear this could be exactly the Carrier battle you have been looking for - after forming your own big CVTF - against an at least a bit exhausted KB... applause to your morale. this worldmap sure does look ugly with all those red dots [;)] i think he has maybe half a year to 9 months until the time for japanese large scale operations is over? this would mean that he has to push hard in the areas where he wants to finish operations before it gets too costly.

Sardaukar -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 3:11:46 PM)
Just hang on there, aztez! I have just entered to Jan 43 in my game vs. IJ AI. You start to get all those nice toys later in 42, first 6 months is tough going even against AI, but situation has reversed now. I won complete victory in Imphal and reducing 7 division (!) IJA stack in Akyab by 500 men per day. Just hang on there and situation improves day by day. All those fancy new planes help too. [8D] It is really frustrating time for Allied player in early war, but situation improves dramatically around Aug 42 (when US started first offense also historically). I have actually lost almost as much ground to IJ AI than you have to human player! [:D] (except Noumea and PM)

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 5:11:33 PM)
Streptokok: I think you are propably correct. Sometimes results cannot be explained with reason. I like my fighters to go after bombers but the problem is that they have deal with initial sweep missions before these raids are coming that is why I'am focusing on these raids first. Jonathan Pollard: Yeah. Seems that you need to careful when using long strategic movement orders. At least it is working on west coast. I haven't had any problems there. ADB123: Welcome. Seems that we are experiencing the same "bug". I have now ordered these troops to move with shorter movement orders. That is when they actually get back into railroad they dropped off. LoBaron: I think so too. Really didn't like the odds and casualties on the 1st battle there. They have now moved some 16 miles towards Schwebo and moving "slowly" due to combat orders. I think the burma road is same as it was with witp. I'am not 100% sure though. Than again I really don't have the infantry to keep it open if he comes with large scale offensive so this really is not an issue at least not at the moment. I think the Samoa Islands offensive intel is solid taking the new developments into mind. It is definately a risky operation to intervene here now since his losses againts the lba fighters have not been high enough. Also, RN carriers are about to enter Cape Town and continue straight away into Pacific. I'am raising an anchor however and 3 US CV tf will set sail from Pearl Harbour within 4 days. I need to prepared though. Another thing to keep in mind are the fighter pools. Lets say I engage his carriers and the ac losses are high and not much. Well, at the old witp his would be allied victory but this is not the case in AE. If you look at the pools you can notice I really cannot equip my carriers with aircraft if we hit an bloody encounter. Yes, he losses pilots but can replace his aircraft BUT I lose the whole operation capability for months. This due to the nerfed allied fighter pools. I'am thinking about moving more bombers into southern theatres at the moment. Thanks! Well, to be honest I cannot give him 9 months and the buck need to stop very soon! The world map situation is far from great but I'am an stubborn personality who will not surrender! Sardaukar: Thanks and appreciated the comments. I actually asked Dave how he felt his expansion was going on. There has been so much talk on the forums on how the new system will slow japanese down. Dave kind of stated that he did not see much of an diffrence when comparing the witp classic and AE. I know he is even better player now than when we first clashed out. (Hopefully I'am too). I take his word for it and I was most definately suprised to hear this since the actual allied defensive system is a lot harder with the ac pools and ground combat model. Oh well... There are new developmenets and I really need to start hurting him more. I cannot comment on the AI but sounds like trouble brewing there! I kind of need an such an miracle what you described at Imphal. That is an huge victory. Well, maybe his offense in the china will wind down since I'am trying to implement the style of defense that Seydlitz and others talked about. What I have read regarding china than well maybe I'am doing ok taking the new ground combat model into account.

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 5:12:37 PM)
China (april 4th and 5th 1942) The battles south of Sian started last turn. The initial offensive was rejected with heavy losses to both sides. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 84,42 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 95212 troops, 742 guns, 277 vehicles, Assault Value = 2915 Defending force 59645 troops, 347 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1541 Japanese adjusted assault: 1051 Allied adjusted defense: 1963 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3222 casualties reported Squads: 30 destroyed, 161 disabled Non Combat: 34 destroyed, 162 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 35 disabled Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) Vehicles lost 42 (0 destroyed, 42 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2766 casualties reported Squads: 26 destroyed, 255 disabled Non Combat: 33 destroyed, 170 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Assaulting units: 3rd Division 13th Tank Regiment 6th Mongol Cavalry Division 8th Ind.Mixed Brigade 35th/A Division 41st Division 35th/B Division 11th Indpt Infantry Regiment 26th Engineer Regiment 37th Division 4th Cavalry Brigade 12th Indpt Infantry Regiment 6th Division 35th/C Division 51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Mortar Battalion North China Area Army 52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion Defending units: 57th Chinese Corps 1st Chinese Corps 38th New Chinese Division 90th Chinese/A Corps 33rd Chinese Corps 90th Chinese/B Corps 8th Route Army 41st Chinese Corps 95th Chinese/B Corps 22nd Group Army 5th War Area Red Chinese Army 1st Artillery Regiment 21st Group Army 7th Group Army 20th Artillery Regiment 34th Group Army 56th AT Gun Regiment ...not bad but I was hoping for better. At least we actually killed few squads this time around which is freshening news. Chinese army also cleared an patch for retreat to those units trapped further down south of Sian. At least we should not lose them completely now. Reinforcements are not that far off from Sian so maybe we can stop him here but it is still very "iffy" situation. [image]local://upfiles/15617/498245BE933D49209663FA59DCD37C4D.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 5:13:33 PM)
Java (april 4th and 5th 1942) I think the japanese army is regrouping before the final assaults. Nomore bases were seized last turn but I think Dave has an huge army operating here. I bumped into IJA division and tank regiment near Tijilitjap. I thought there was an small armoured unit plus maybe an naval guard units occupying the hex. Japan keep on making huge bombing runs all over Java. The remains of ABDA airforce is conducting an ground offensives with some success. This is really more to annoy and slow him down a bit and will have no big diffrence in final outcome. Mini KB is busy covering his advance towards Timor. The road here is quite open and he has lba support flying from Kendari and Ambona too. [image]local://upfiles/15617/240A442C03854E498A935A5FA6F1EC9B.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 5:14:45 PM)
Samoa Islands (april 4th and 5th 1942) KB was busy in action conducted several raids againts our positions at Pago Pago. Here are the combat logs from past two days. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pago Pago , at 148,161 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 17 D3A1 Val x 82 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed, 33 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed on ground Allied ground losses: 48 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 6 (0 destroyed, 6 disabled) Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Pago Pago , at 148,161 Weather in hex: Overcast Japanese aircraft D3A1 Val x 31 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 5 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 11 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 20 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Pago Pago , at 148,161 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 51 D3A1 Val x 59 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 20 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 41 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed Allied ground losses: 41 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) ...he has moved his carries even further down south here. This was not an raiding party though since he has landed at least 5 units into Savaii. The marines defending the base will be overrun swiftly. We lauched 20 B26 Marauders againts these ships but managed to hit nothing. At least that was reported. This is something that I do not like at all and "the puck stops here". We shall fight this out with force since I'am not about to give him free pass here. The most immediate concern is to figure out how to get fighters into Pago Pago area without shipping them? This seems like an big problem now. Other steps needs to taken too here. What those are.. well I haven't decieded quite yet. As said the most important thing now is move in more fighters to provide solid CAP here. [image]local://upfiles/15617/C15B0AFBD420448AB2CC9F4EE4438697.jpg[/image]

jwilkerson -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 5:24:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aztez The most immediate concern is to figure out how to get fighters into Pago Pago area without shipping them? This seems like an big problem now. If you have any carriers left, you can use a "fly off" mission. Load some P40s or Wildcats aboard the carriers, sail them to within transfer range and then fly the fighters to the destination base. I used the RN carriers to move a bunch of American planes from Perth to Java in an earlier game using this technique.

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 7:44:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jwilkerson quote: ORIGINAL: aztez The most immediate concern is to figure out how to get fighters into Pago Pago area without shipping them? This seems like an big problem now. If you have any carriers left, you can use a "fly off" mission. Load some P40s or Wildcats aboard the carriers, sail them to within transfer range and then fly the fighters to the destination base. I used the RN carriers to move a bunch of American planes from Perth to Java in an earlier game using this technique. Appreciate the idea Joe. That is doable but it might be very risky indeed. I have already lost 2 US carriers and really cannot afford lose more of them at least not without an good fight. The seas around Samoa Islands aren't exactly peaceful either and KB can crash towards these "transfer" carriers if spotted so I need to think this through once the turn arrives. Very good advice maybe not for the current situation though. Damn I hope the CVE Long Island would be operational.

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 9:41:06 PM)
Java (april 6th and 7th 1942) The april 6th saw fall of Badoeng. Thus meaning enemy is now some 80 miles out of Batavia. ABDA airforce continue their ground bombardment missions and maybe these strikes are slowing Dave down a bit. The mini KB is still providing aircover to IJN operations near Timor. Damn, I would love to have few Dauntless divebombers on hand there. [image]local://upfiles/15617/052937A7FAB44DBFAF3244419CC9FE1C.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 9:43:28 PM)
Burma (april 6th and 7th 1942) Allied forces continue their organized withdrawal into Schwebo. The artillery fire has been lethal to say at least. These guns killed around 100av value of troops just in 2 days of bombardment. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Mandalay (59,46) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 30641 troops, 460 guns, 165 vehicles, Assault Value = 759 Defending force 22843 troops, 180 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 496 Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 1403 casualties reported Squads: 16 destroyed, 26 disabled Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 87 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 13 (4 destroyed, 9 disabled) Vehicles lost 8 (0 destroyed, 8 disabled) Assaulting units: 38th Division 55th Cavalry Regiment 112th Infantry Regiment 33rd Division 16th Infantry Rgt /1 47th Field AA Battalion 55th Mountain Gun Regiment 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 15th Army 45th Field AA Battalion 48th Field Artillery Regiment 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Bn /1 Defending units: 12th Burma Rifles Battalion 13th Burma Rifles Battalion 4/14th Punjab Battalion 4/8th Ghurka Battalion 9/11th Sikh Battalion 2nd Burma Brigade 9th Burma Rifles Battalion 1st Gloucestershire Battalion 2nd King Own YLI Battalion 10th Burma Rifles Battalion 6th Burma Rifles Battalion BFF Brigade 16th Indian Brigade 108th RAF Base Force 103rd RAF Base Force 1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment 221 Group RAF 27th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment 106th RAF Base Force Burma Corps AVG Ground Echelon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Mandalay (59,46) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 42687 troops, 503 guns, 214 vehicles, Assault Value = 1291 Defending force 22019 troops, 181 guns, 83 vehicles, Assault Value = 464 Allied ground losses: 1098 casualties reported Squads: 31 destroyed, 24 disabled Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 67 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled) Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled) Assaulting units: 55th Cavalry Regiment 33rd Division 38th Division 16th Infantry Regiment 112th Infantry Regiment 24th Infantry Regiment 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 47th Field AA Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 15th Army 45th Field AA Battalion 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 55th Mountain Gun Regiment 48th Field Artillery Regiment 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion Defending units: 1st Gloucestershire Battalion 4/8th Ghurka Battalion 4/14th Punjab Battalion BFF Brigade 10th Burma Rifles Battalion 12th Burma Rifles Battalion 2nd King Own YLI Battalion 13th Burma Rifles Battalion 2nd Burma Brigade 9/11th Sikh Battalion 9th Burma Rifles Battalion 6th Burma Rifles Battalion 16th Indian Brigade 108th RAF Base Force 103rd RAF Base Force 106th RAF Base Force 1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment 221 Group RAF Burma Corps 27th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment AVG Ground Echelon Those massive losses to the british burmese army. I had level 3 forts here but these didn't amount to anything. As said 100av lost in just 2 days of bombardment. Things are not looking up here at all. [image]local://upfiles/15617/6F7259C166C147EDA371EF709CF713CE.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 9:44:20 PM)
China (april 6th and 7th 1942) I don't actually know whether it was a good thing to open the pocket. Dave launched an immediate ground assault and it was shocking in terms of troops lost. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 85,43 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 66558 troops, 457 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 1881 Defending force 47104 troops, 268 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 574 Japanese adjusted assault: 719 Allied adjusted defense: 49 Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 2133 casualties reported Squads: 14 destroyed, 93 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 45 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled) Allied ground losses: 15583 casualties reported Squads: 311 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 884 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 18 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 24 (24 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 17 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 59th Infantry Brigade 138th Infantry Regiment 5th Mongol Cavalry Division 15th Ind.Mixed Brigade 13th Indpt Infantry Regiment 15th RGC Temp. Division 3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade 9th Armored Car Co 110th Division 13th Ind.Mixed Brigade 24th NCPC Route Brigade 15th Division 28th Engineer Regiment 3rd NCPC Infantry Brigade 8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 27th Chinese Corps 47th Chinese Corps 96th Chinese Corps 80th Chinese Corps 9th Chinese Corps 61st Chinese Corps 93rd Chinese Corps 38th Chinese Corps 36th Chinese Corps 90th Chinese/C Corps 1st War Area 4th Chinese Base Force 14th Group Army 36th Group Army 8th Group Army Jingcha War Area 10th Chinese Base Force It seems that those circled troops battled much better without an retreat path. Too late to think these now since we have more imminent problems in this region. Our reinforcements are moving forward day by day, I estimate that the first major infantry units should arrive within an weeks time. AVG is building up at Chenghtu after their upgrades in India. [image]local://upfiles/15617/AC60F26E4D8045DABF71799C29055426.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 9:46:28 PM)
Samoa Islands (april 6th and 7th 1942) BB Kirishima and BB Hiei conducted an naval bombardments offshore at Pago Pago. Thankfully these were not the nuke bombardments we all were used to in the classic witp. The japanese forces conducted an offensive at Savaii and captured the base back. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Savaii (146,159) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 8990 troops, 53 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 312 Defending force 1253 troops, 57 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 39 Japanese adjusted assault: 262 Allied adjusted defense: 28 Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Savaii !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-) Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 275 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 2779 casualties reported Squads: 77 destroyed, 14 disabled Non Combat: 49 destroyed, 42 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 113 (112 destroyed, 1 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Assaulting units: 83rd Naval Guard Unit 67th Naval Guard Unit 144th Infantry Rgt /1 2nd Indpt SNLF Coy 52nd Naval Guard Unit Maizuru 1st SNLF /3 2nd JNAF Coy /3 Defending units: 7th Marine Defense Battalion ...our brave Marines were unable to do anything to stop this. The enemy carriers were also active yet again and bombed + sweeped our defenses at Pago Pago. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pago Pago , at 148,161 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 20 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet CAP engaged: 50th PG/12th PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters to 9000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes 35th PG/40th PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes 35th PG/41st PS with P-39D Airacobra (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000. Raid is overhead ...this is definately no minor operation ongoing here. [image]local://upfiles/15617/CDEE6F9652904B0DA503CAB49632B84C.jpg[/image]

Monter_Trismegistos -> RE: April 1942 in this war... (10/4/2009 11:54:13 PM)
I see you have a lot of separate battalions in Schwebo. Can't you combine them?

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