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fiva55 -> Soviet thoughts (4/12/2011 12:30:03 AM)
Here is some thoughts about the summer of 1943 so far from my esteemed opponent. quote: Original: Jajusha "In the soviet army, it takes more courage to retreat than advance" applies here. My surrounded and isolated units are ordered to attack instead of defend. T-34 guns, unable to penetrate tiger armor, have specific orders to drive against them. If no fuel is present, tanks are to be used as roadblocks. If no ammo is at hand, stones and sticks are to be used. Every single bit of Russian soil fights against the German aggressor. Causing you near 1000 AFV casualties in 2 weeks is an important achievment, as it will take you a fair bit of time to produce that much field vehicles (unless, you have a big stock of them, and i hope you do not!). The battle is still not over, but i can share with you that i had 3 field armies, 2 tank armies (1st and 5th tank), 1 guards army (the backup you saw on the second week) and several support brigades (guard arty, some AT brigades, etc). Original plan was to bait you in the first week of summer (after these alternate mud turns) with a fake salient in the area, having Stavka recruits in the flanks to keep the CV values to a minimum. After you had taken the bait, the tank and guard armies would then invest against your breakthrough panzer divisions, making a decisive dent to your tank forces. That was the plan at least, turns out you did a strategic retreat in the middle of May, and those inf divisions where just too juicy to let go like that. I surrounded and isolated them, committing a part of my force, but you where ready to counterattack, and what a blow it was, you chewed through several 50-70CV defenses, i don't think i had many of these defenses still up after your turn. Thankfully i had my reserves in place, and was able to form a supply corridor for 2 weeks in a row, allowing me to use the once isolated units to inflict more casualties from inside (where you had lower CV values). Finally, i managed to botch another Crimea op. Went with Cav divisions this time, and i'm even not sure if closing the land bridges puts you isolated, i think you can still supply your units from sea... Guess i wont be bombing your Romanian oil fields just yet.

DTurtle -> RE: Turn 50: Massive tankbattles (4/12/2011 12:43:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fiva55 Situation begin of turn 50 Ha! Just where I expected [;)] It seems like time to try to get out of there somehow. Attacking the 5=5 armor in the NW and the 9=9 armor in the east seems like a good way to isolate some troops, while simultaneously putting a little distance between those stacks of doom and your troops. But then, you are a lot better at this than I am, so I'm sure you'll do the right thing [:D]

fiva55 -> Turn 51: Attrition (4/13/2011 3:10:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aditia Lowering TOE seems a good way to go about it to me. Even disbanding a lowly arty Bn costs AP right? Yes, disbanding cost AP, although I hardly lack those at this stage of the game. quote: ORIGINAL: DTurtle Ha! Just where I expected [;)] It seems like time to try to get out of there somehow. Attacking the 5=5 armor in the NW and the 9=9 armor in the east seems like a good way to isolate some troops, while simultaneously putting a little distance between those stacks of doom and your troops. But then, you are a lot better at this than I am, so I'm sure you'll do the right thing [:D] Breaking out wasn't a problem, nor was entrapping those Soviets again. It proved to be a lot harder too keep them trapped though. This turn, they again broke through 2 solid tank lines, though luckily my losses were less severe compared to last turn. Still, this battle has cost me almost 300 panthers and 50 tiger tanks....... A wise man knows when to retreat, but with mud entering the fray this turn I want to try one last time. Lack the time and the screen shot for more a extensive post, but will give a more detailed overview asap.

fiva55 -> Turn 51: Third time's the charm (4/13/2011 4:02:03 PM)
With mud this turn, 2nd and 4th Panzer make one finale attempt to isolate the Soviet spearheads. [image]local://upfiles/37788/A369534A58614F39B7FBAA7BD0A3085B.jpg[/image]

fiva55 -> Front lines overview 19 June 1943 (4/13/2011 8:16:35 PM)
OOB [image]http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/2921/oob.jpg[/image] Fins & Army Group North [image]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6549/agnn.jpg[/image] Army Group Center [IMG]http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/551/agc.jpg[/IMG] Army Group A [IMG]http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2302/agaoi.jpg[/IMG] Army Group B [IMG]http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/102/agbd.jpg[/IMG]

fiva55 -> Front line reports begin of week June 19th 1943 (4/13/2011 9:13:37 PM)
So I finally trapped those Soviets, but at a huge cost. We will see in the coming turns whether it was a mistake of mine or not. On the side note, I will have less time to write extensive post for the foreseeable future.Thus I will change my AAR writing style, imitating the style used in this WITP:AE AAR . Hopefully this way keeping the AAR updated will be less time extensive while still giving you a good overview of the game. PS: If you are interested in WITP:AE, you really should check that AAR. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TURN 52 19/06/1943 BEGIN OF WEEK REPORTS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ EVENT LOG Refit/Normal replacements: 638.983 Men were added to Germany's front line units PRODUCTION Manpower pool: 597.409 Armaments pool: 15.553 Rifle Squads: Rdy 18.214/Dam 507 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FIN. & ARMY GROUP NORTH REPORT From: FINNISH HIGH COMMAND HQ, AGN HQ To: OKH HQ Subject: Frontline report Nothing noteworthy has happened. Front line has been quiet with no attacks. 18th and 9th Army have been set to static to speed up fortification. [Signed] Generaloberst Guderian

fiva55 -> RE: Front line reports begin of week June 19th 1943 (4/13/2011 9:51:07 PM)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TURN 52 19/06/1943 BEGIN OF WEEK REPORTS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ARMY GROUP CENTER REPORT FROM: AGC HQ TO: OKH HQ SUBJECT: Frontline Report Front has been quiet. No attacks reported. Will begin to pull some divisions of 16th Army back behind the river Oka. Will try to counterattack bridgeheads. [Signed] Generaloberst Georg von Kuchler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ARMY GROUP A REPORT FROM: 2nd Panzer ARMY HQ TO: AGA HQ COPY TO: OKH HQ SUBJECT: Encirclement successful Have finally succeeded in isolating the Soviets, but suffered heavy losses. Reported loss of 272 Panter Ds. Request that commander of II SS Panzer Corps be awarded for bravery. Intelligence reports 4 tank corps, 2 inf corps, 3 inf divisions and 1 calv corps now trapped. In desperate need of refitting, request to be pulled back from front lines. [Signed] Generaloberst Erich von Manstein FROM: AGA HQ TO: 2nd Panzer Army HQ SUBJECT: RE: Encirclement successful Congratulations on success. OKH reports that Hausser will be promoted to Generaloberst. Request to be pulled back is denied. Assist in mopping up operations. [Signed] Generaloberst Ernst Busch [image]local://upfiles/37788/34C347F668EB450A96589391AB343643.jpg[/image] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ARMY GROUP B REPORT FROM:17th Army HQ TO: AGB HQ COPY TO: OKH HQ SUBJECT: Enemy at the gates Soviet pressure is mounting. Suffering heavy losses. Predict that Stalino will fall within 3 weeks if reinforcement are not send. Request to retreat behind the river Kalmius. [Signed] General Rudolf Konrad FROM: AGB HQ TO: 17th Army HQ SUBJECT: RE: Enemy at the gates Request for retreat is denied. Delay enemy as long as possible. 3rd Rum. Army is building second defensive line. You are authorized to fall back once fortifications are sufficient (level 3). [Signed] Generaloberst Maximilian von Weichs

fiva55 -> AAR Postponed (4/14/2011 3:39:32 PM)
After receiving a PM from Tarhunnas and reading this thread about the armaments bug, my opponent and I have decided to postpone the game until the new patch comes out. To fill up the gap, we have decided to play the Operation Blue scenario, with me as Soviets. With me having left Stalingrad alone in our current game, Jajusha wants to give a shot in taking the city :P. Is anyone interested in me writing a AAR about the game?

Mynok -> RE: AAR Postponed (4/14/2011 4:15:13 PM)
We're getting short on AARs to read with all the stoppages due to the pending big patch. Everyone's going to end up reading my AAR against Oleg and see my ignominious crushing. [:D]

fiva55 -> RE: AAR Postponed (4/14/2011 5:36:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mynok We're getting short on AARs to read with all the stoppages due to the pending big patch. Everyone's going to end up reading my AAR against Oleg and see my ignominious crushing. [:D] The 1943 GC scenario right? I checked it out, good luck. You will need it.[:D] Anyway, I have decided to start up a short AAR anyway, I find that writing about the game keeps me organized.

squatter -> RE: Turn 50: Massive tankbattles (4/14/2011 6:09:00 PM)
Whoever said that the Soviet +1 odds bonus was an irrelevance by 1943?

fiva55 -> Turn 52 overview (4/25/2011 5:45:14 PM)
Just a screenshot of the front lines to give everyone the big picture. [image]local://upfiles/37788/8A919E750DC741B78F56F58C232F1CAF.jpg[/image]

fiva55 -> Turn 53: Begin of turn overview (4/26/2011 11:28:35 PM)
BEGIN TURN 53 OKH RECEIVED REPORTS SUMMARY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AXIS OOB Men: 2.720.515 Guns: 20.712 AFV: 3.291 Air: 2.276 SOVIET OOB Men: 6.134.508 Guns: 103.407 AFV: 9.056 Air: 13.227 SOVIET ATTACKS RESULTS 19 held 25 retreated 01 routed PRODUCTION Manpower pool: 320.428 Armaments pool: 0 EVENT LOG Refit/replacements segment: 60.623 men were added to Germany's front line units Unready units: 33 German units unready NOTABLE EVENT 57 AF bombed, resulting in 300 German aircraft damaged/destroyed in exchange for the loss of 400 aircraft on the Soviet side. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BEGIN OF TURN OBSERVATIONS Three major concentration of troops have been detected In the sector of Army group center, the first Soviet Breakthrough Artillery divisions have appeared: [image]http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1/agch.jpg[/image] In the sector of Army group A, large numbers of enemy tank corps can be seen: [IMG]http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/9328/agaf.jpg[/IMG] In the sector of Army Group B, large numbers of infantry corps can be seen: [IMG]http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4194/agbe.jpg[/IMG]

fiva55 -> Turn 53: End of turn overview (4/27/2011 1:02:44 PM)
Thoughts: Defence strategy Clearly stacking 3 divisions on one hex and hoping that it will hold is not an effective defence anymore. Even if the attack is repulsed, the resulting casualties will result in 3 divisions going into unready status. Both checkerboard and linebacker strategy also seem to be ineffective for the current situation, but I have no idea what else to do. Some experimenting will be needed if I want to delay the Soviet Army as long as possible. Unready units With the new refit rules, I'm forced to redeploy my unready units behind the front lines in order to refit them. I tried to make the best of the situation, and used them to dig secondary defence lines. Air My opponent seems to have some grudge against my airforce, and has started a massive airfield bombing campaign. Though he suffered more losses, he can easily afford them. In order to prevent the collapse of my already weakening airforce, I have retreated all of my airfleets at least 10 hexes behind my front lines. I trust that the army airbases will extend their range. Allied units 2nd Hungarian Army and 3rd Rumanian army have ceased to be an effective fighting force. With no armaments to refit their unready divisions, there is no point in keeping them in the frontlines. I have started to them retreat well behind the front lines in order to build new defence lines. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turn 53 Orders Redeployments The north is relatively quiet, allowing me to strip 10 divisions from Army group North; 5 of those have been send to reinforce army group center, the remaining 5 have been send to take over the sector of 2nd Hungarian army. [image]local://upfiles/37788/AB1E9D0FAB3B4DE7A3B6A34F7345EDE2.jpg[/image] One panzerkorps has been detached from 4rd panzer army and send to Army group center. In the south, 17th army and 1st panzer army have retreated a few hexes. Their new defensive positions are now behind a river. There was no point in slugging it out with infantry guard corps on open ground. Attacks No attacks have been made.

fiva55 -> Turn 54 overview (4/27/2011 4:59:35 PM)
BEGIN TURN 54 7/3/1943 OKH RECEIVED REPORTS SUMMARY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AXIS OOB Men: 2.548.138 Guns: 19.450.712 AFV: 3.318 Air: 2.226 SOVIET OOB Men: 6.092.038 Guns: 101.686 AFV: 8.917 Air: 13.277 SOVIET ATTACKS RESULTS 10 held 32 retreated PRODUCTION Manpower pool: 419.220 Armaments pool: 0 EVENT LOG Refit/replacements segment: 70.129 men were added to Germany's front line units Unready units: 46 German units unready NOTABLE EVENTS The Soviets continue their AF bombing campaign, with a registered 60 AF bombings. Rzhev, Orel and Kursk have fallen to the Soviets. A massive tank battle between 22th PD and 9th PD of III Panzer Korps and Soviet 1st Tank Army a few miles west of Kursk. The Germans fielded 159 afv VS 813 on the Soviet side. The Germans were forced back, losing 53 afv, but not before causing 150 afv casualties on the Soviet side. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ END OF TURN OVERVIEW NOTABLE EVENT Orel has been recaptured [image]local://upfiles/37788/8D1C75DEFFC44B808E2001805DBE59E6.jpg[/image]

fiva55 -> Turn 55 overview (4/27/2011 5:11:29 PM)
BEGIN TURN 55 7/10/1943 OKH RECEIVED REPORTS SUMMARY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AXIS OOB Men: 2.464.341 Guns: 19.135 AFV: 3.518 Air: 2.143 SOVIET OOB Men: 6.100.505 Guns: 102.893 AFV: 9.043 Air: 13.346 SOVIET ATTACKS RESULTS 09 held 18 retreated PRODUCTION Armaments pool: 0 EVENT LOG Refit/replacements segment: 66.015 men were added to Germany's front line units Unready units: 59 German units unready NOTABLE EVENT The Soviets continue their AF bombing campaign, with a registered 67 AF bombings. Seriously, what does Jajusha have against German planes? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ END OF TURN OVERVIEW NOTABLE EVENT Kaluga has been abandoned, it was only useful as a springboard for an offensive towards Moscow. Nothing screenshot worthy has happened.

fiva55 -> Turn 56 overview (4/29/2011 12:23:33 AM)
BEGIN TURN 56 7/17/1943 OKH RECEIVED REPORTS SUMMARY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AXIS OOB Men: 2.402.639 Guns: 18.217 AFV: 3.458 Air: 2.076 SOVIET OOB Men: 6.112.647 Guns: 103.099 AFV: 9.022 Air: 13.848 AXIS LOSSES Men: 2.364.099 Guns: 32.274 AFV: 7.245 Air: 4.810 SOVIET LOSSES Men: 6.007.010 Guns: 106.838 AFV: 24.061 Air: 31.629 SOVIET ATTACKS RESULTS 10 held 29 retreated PRODUCTION Manpower pool: 494.347 Armaments pool: 0 EVENT LOG Refit/replacements segment: 95.746 men were added to Germany's front line units Unready units: 51 German units unready NOTABLE EVENTS More AF bombing, with a registered 56 AF bombed. The Soviets have tried to make some amphibious attacks in the Crimea, without success. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ END OF TURN OVERVIEW NOTABLE EVENT Nothing screenshot worthy has happened.

fiva55 -> Turn 57 overview (4/29/2011 12:35:16 AM)
BEGIN TURN 57 7/24/1943 OKH RECEIVED REPORTS SUMMARY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AXIS OOB Men: 2.317.070 Guns: 17.729 AFV: 3.414 Air: 2.009 SOVIET OOB Men: 6.108.403 Guns: 102.675 AFV: 9.068 Air: 14.188 AXIS LOSSES Men: 2.410.067 Guns: 38.262 AFV: 7.528 Air: 5.091 SOVIET LOSSES Men: 6.076.638 Guns: 108.889 AFV: 24.566 Air: 32.061 PRODUCTION Manpower pool: 529.387 Armaments pool: 0 Rifle Squads: Rdy 18.934/Dam 728 EVENT LOG Refit/replacements segment: 68.117 men were added to Germany's front line units Unready units: 61 German units unready NOTABLE EVENT The Gorlovka-Makeeva-Stalino defence line has been breached in force. Makeeva has been captured by the combined might of the Soviet 47th, 2nd Shock and 24th Army. The southern flank of the 3 city line has been blown away. 75% of 17th Army is now in unready status. [image]http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8006/makeevafallen.jpg[/image] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ END OF TURN OVERVIEW NOTABLE EVENT Makeeva has been recaptured, XXXXVII Panzer corps has been redeployed in this sector from Army Group A. The goal is to hold the line one more turn, allowing 17th Army to refit. [IMG]http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/1062/end57.jpg[/IMG]

hfarrish -> RE: Turn 57 overview (4/29/2011 2:11:30 AM)
By the way your Men OOB is decreasing, I would suspect you are about to hit the point of no return I ran into in my 42 game (and you did a much better job on the offense in the summer of 42 than I did, for sure). At those levels of manpower if he starts attacking in a serious way there is little to hold your army together. Will be interested to see what happens.

hfarrish -> RE: Turn 57 overview (4/29/2011 2:12:39 AM)
For example, your Southern forces look about like mine did...I would recommend retreating farther, faster, and trying to get everyone in refit mode as soon as possible. I may sound a bit over the top, but I just saw this movie and it doesn't end well...

Mynok -> RE: Turn 57 overview (4/29/2011 3:01:20 AM)
I watching it myself though at a slightly later date. It doesn't improve at all.

fiva55 -> RE: Turn 57 overview (4/29/2011 9:31:06 AM)
Hmm I know, its truly a dilemma. In order to decrease the size of the Soviet Army, I need to counter attack. But by counter attacking I inevitable weaken my own forces... I too have no illusions about the recovery of the German army at this stage. I just intend to delay the Soviets as long as possible. As for retreating more in the south, I would like to, but the Dnepr line isn't ready yet.

Tarhunnas -> RE: Turn 57 overview (4/29/2011 9:38:39 AM)
I like your AARs! Structured and well presented! Your army however, it is beginning to look like it's going the same way as mine in the same campaign, despite the 1.04 changes!

hfarrish -> RE: Turn 57 overview (4/29/2011 12:30:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fiva55 Hmm I know, its truly a dilemma. In order to decrease the size of the Soviet Army, I need to counter attack. But by counter attacking I inevitable weaken my own forces... I too have no illusions about the recovery of the German army at this stage. I just intend to delay the Soviets as long as possible. As for retreating more in the south, I would like to, but the Dnepr line isn't ready yet. I wouldn't wait for the Dnepr line - I did exactly the same thing, got my forts along the Dnepr and the Molochna (to keep the line relatively short) up to level three and by engaging in a fighting retreat all that got me was a bunch of 1=4 units on the Dnepr rather than 1=1 - not nearly enough to stop two stacks of Soviet troops with CVs of 20+. The only thing that sort of worked for me was retreating in stages (4-5 hexes a turn) and keeping my armor behind the new line to smash any Tank Corps that ventured in front of the infantry - attacking tank corps with massed panzers is the only place where you will get good kill ratios on your attacks...which I'm sure you know.

fiva55 -> RE: Turn 57 overview (4/29/2011 1:00:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hfarrish quote: ORIGINAL: fiva55 Hmm I know, its truly a dilemma. In order to decrease the size of the Soviet Army, I need to counter attack. But by counter attacking I inevitable weaken my own forces... I too have no illusions about the recovery of the German army at this stage. I just intend to delay the Soviets as long as possible. As for retreating more in the south, I would like to, but the Dnepr line isn't ready yet. I wouldn't wait for the Dnepr line - I did exactly the same thing, got my forts along the Dnepr and the Molochna (to keep the line relatively short) up to level three and by engaging in a fighting retreat all that got me was a bunch of 1=4 units on the Dnepr rather than 1=1 - not nearly enough to stop two stacks of Soviet troops with CVs of 20+. The only thing that sort of worked for me was retreating in stages (4-5 hexes a turn) and keeping my armor behind the new line to smash any Tank Corps that ventured in front of the infantry - attacking tank corps with massed panzers is the only place where you will get good kill ratios on your attacks...which I'm sure you know. I started pulling back this turn. I'm curious, did you merge divisions in your game? I believe historically, Hitler kept creating more formations, at the cost of weakening the remaining ones. I'm thinking to start mass merging my unready units to bring them back in in fighting form. It's not like I will ever get them all in ready status just relying on replacements anyway.

squatter -> RE: Turn 50: Massive tankbattles (4/29/2011 1:03:06 PM)
Whoever said the +1 Sov odds modifier didnt make any difference in 1943? The difference it makes is that it is virtually impossible to hold any kind of pocket, no matter how strong the units you commit. If the german player gets 30CV in a hex to hold a pocket, it's going to be relatively easy anywhere on the map for the soviets to muster 30CV for an attack (not to mention overwhelming air and artillery) If, as testers have said, the +1 odds modifier is in the game to balance 1942 (when without it, apparently the Sovs would not be able to mount a Stalingrad type offensive), then why keep it in to UNbalance 43 and onwards? What's your view from the receiving end on this, Fiva?

hfarrish -> RE: Turn 57 overview (4/29/2011 1:04:50 PM)
I did not - I did disband a slew of support units, empty Luflotte HQs and, as the retreat went west, SEC divs. I don't think merging units could hurt you, although the downside would be that you wouldn't have smaller units that you could send to the rear to rest and dig in without leaving a gaping hole in the line.

fiva55 -> Turn 58 overview (4/29/2011 1:21:39 PM)
BEGIN TURN 58 7/31/1943 OKH RECEIVED REPORTS SUMMARY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AXIS OOB Men: 2.259.383 Guns: 17.356 AFV: 3.292 Air: 1.953 SOVIET OOB Men: 6.202.76 Guns: 103.011 AFV: 9.057 Air: 14.483 AXIS LOSSES Men: 2.451.101 Guns: 39.084 AFV: 7.856 Air: 5.296 SOVIET LOSSES Men: 6.132.780 Guns: 110.617 AFV: 25.182 Air: 32.511 SOVIET ATTACKS RESULTS 09 held 31 retreated 24 AF bombed PRODUCTION Manpower pool: 555.446 Armaments pool: 0 Rifle Squads: Rdy 17.655/Dam 717 EVENT LOG Refit/replacements segment: 68.445 men were added to Germany's front line units Unready units: 71 German units unready NOTABLE EVENTS Most of 17th Army is in ready status again, but at a price. The remaining front has suffered, with an alarming increase of unready units in all sectors. Of the Gorlovka-Makeeva-Stalino strongpoint, only Stalino remains in German hands. To hold only longer would invite disaster, and 17th Army has been authorized to start a slow retreat. [image]http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5319/turn58.jpg[/image] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ END OF TURN OVERVIEW NOTABLE EVENT A careful pull back has been authorized for all sectors, starting with Army Group B. Stalino has been abandoned, after a mass counter attack by our panzers freed the way for 371st ID to retreat. [IMG]http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7204/turn58end.jpg[/IMG]

fiva55 -> RE: Turn 50: Massive tankbattles (4/29/2011 1:38:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: squatter Whoever said the +1 Sov odds modifier didnt make any difference in 1943? The difference it makes is that it is virtually impossible to hold any kind of pocket, no matter how strong the units you commit. If the german player gets 30CV in a hex to hold a pocket, it's going to be relatively easy anywhere on the map for the soviets to muster 30CV for an attack (not to mention overwhelming air and artillery) If, as testers have said, the +1 odds modifier is in the game to balance 1942 (when without it, apparently the Sovs would not be able to mount a Stalingrad type offensive), then why keep it in to UNbalance 43 and onwards? What's your view from the receiving end on this, Fiva? Well in a way it doesn't make much of a difference, since the Soviets are getting way better odds than 1:1 anyway at this stage of the war. Assuming that the Soviet player took the time to build (guards) infantry corps, the +1 odds modifier changes little. Having said that, I think that the +1 odds modifier could safely be removed in 1943 for the Soviets, I have a feeling that it is just overkill at this stage.

Aditia -> RE: Turn 50: Massive tankbattles (4/29/2011 1:43:15 PM)
In my 43-45 PBEM most soviet breakthroughs happen because of the +1 modifier. Without it the soviets would have an impossible task trying to breach fortified river lines.

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