Walloc -> RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) (7/24/2012 1:29:19 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Flaviusx 91k manpower/turn is bad. I wonder if we've gone too far in ratcheting down manpower. It's hard to get by with anything less than 100k in 1942, and even that is low. Glad some one is starting to question the 50 to 40 multiplier drop in SHC cutting 20% of manpower out. If any one still have to question to why every one playing SHC has to run for the hills, if meeting a semi competent or better GHC player. Well u might wana look at how well the SHC side recovers from losses currently and why 41 is an excersise in pure and simple force preservation. Do u have any choice? quote:
It seems to me that Kamil ought to be getting more bodies than that a turn, he's not that far off the historical line, save the usual loss of Leningrad and the far northern crackup. No not really, look at the 42 scn it has 2600ish manpower. Then deduct Leningrad, tho not that high in the 42 scn but also the furthest axis advance. That leaves in the area of 2300 *40= 92k.(almost made that guess before kamil posted the 91k but i didnt have the nerve) Tho Kamil has taken some things back they've only has had 15 turns to repair = 30% so if just around 75% damaged after the axis leaves. They've hardly started to produce yet. quote:
(FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE STOP LETTING THIS HAPPEN AND DEFEND KARELIA.) Ok ok, next time if there is a next time. quote:
Makes me wonder how the hell some people out there are getting 8 million men armies in 1942. WTF? Simple. Meet a player playing axis side for the first time, Note it was my first attempt at soviet side, apart from 14 turns vs AI. Keep opening all pockets for the first 3-4 turns making opponent not dare to attack cuz of rout instead of surrenders. Then move u units in the "pockets" onto all RR making it so that teh GHC doesnt get to start repairing RR until turn 4. Well i could retreat at leasuire after that tho i did lose Leningrad. 1 HQBU in all of first 17 turns. Think i had taken 1.6m men losses in all by turn 17. Have GHC finally getting near my preprared lines come blizzard and not retreating. Unlease 6.5m men and lots of full str cav corps and tank bdes 50 moral/exp units. Make landing near Odessa as GHC units are off chasing partisans. Nearly cut of the entire AGS cuz of the lack of functioning RRs. Capturing 55 axis div, of which 45 were german. Actually i had captured a pz div on turn 5 too. Come think of it havent played a pbem yet where i havent captured a german pz div in the first 10 turns yet. Moving the post blizzard line back to Leningrad, landbridge, upper Dnieper, across lower Dnieper by a bit. Come start off july 42 u have 9.1 mio men and funnily enough germans had 3.45m. Even with those 45 divs lost plus others whacked too. well wasnt a total breeze as i had made a total mess of the AP game. Using 600 AP on taking AA units out of cities until i finally got(im some what darfed) it costed 50 AP a piece plus making far to many SU. Not to mention some how turning off locked HQ having each and every SU jump to STAKVA. Costed alot to get them back. Oh well live and learn. Show off/story time over, Rasmus
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