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Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/21/2014 2:53:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 You are due an "I Sank The CAs!" T-shirt. [:)] Nuh uh. Maya isn't on that list. Round-off error. [:'(]

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/21/2014 3:47:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Grollub Yummy ... I wonder why these names fills me with that warm fuzzy feeling? [:D][:'(] [:D]

Lokasenna -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/21/2014 4:13:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 You are due an "I Sank The CAs!" T-shirt. [:)] Nuh uh. Maya isn't on that list. Round-off error. [:'(] Mikuma is missing too [:)]. For some reason, Suzuya was always my favorite. You leave her alone. Weird that you sunk almost all of the CAs (including the Tones!), Joc, but no BBs.

mind_messing -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/21/2014 4:47:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 You are due an "I Sank The CAs!" T-shirt. [:)] Nuh uh. Maya isn't on that list. Round-off error. [:'(] Mikuma is missing too [:)]. For some reason, Suzuya was always my favorite. You leave her alone. Weird that you sunk almost all of the CAs (including the Tones!), Joc, but no BBs. Looking at the list, the 1000lb bomb seems to be the biggest killer of Japanese shipping, but they just bounce off the Japanese BB's. Torpedo's have made a fairly significant impact as well, but they've been overshadowed by the dive-bombing crowd!

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/21/2014 5:34:18 PM)
You will have to ask Erik of course but I think the explanation is pretty simple. I havn´t seen any BBs for something like 2 years now so the chances to sink them have been limited. [:)] Just like in the real war they have very limited use. Especially for Japan. No need to cover any amphibs or do atoll invasions. Useless is a pretty strong word but not too far from the truth. Add to that how they just gobble fuel...I see very little use for them as Japan besides bomb/TT magnet...

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/22/2014 4:18:58 AM)
8th-9th May -45 ______________________________________________________________________________ Quick and dirty update! Don´t have access to my computer right now so no screens or Combat report. ------------------------ Okinawa ------------------------ The sweeps on the 8th did better then expected shooting down 90 planes for 25 own losses. Good day! We also found the KB again lurking just outside Fukuoka 1 hex to the NE. On the 8th a gaggle of Jap subs appeared in the area. Sent out a couple of ASW TFs to deal with them. ------------------------ China ------------------------ Our main army is now just one day from the Canton/HK stack. Strangely enough Erik has not moved to open the hex side yet but sits just one hex to the east? Not sure why. My main army will attack as soon as I arrive. Its x3 terrain but I want to try and inflict as much damage as possible. I hope Erik lacks supply. My armor have turned around and should reach the area in 4-6 days. I need to do a river crossing into a BDE. In the North I did attack with the Chinese. It went a little bit worse then expected. Won´t do that again. 300 Destroyed and 3500 disabled squads. Ouch! Sorry for the crappy update.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/22/2014 6:01:25 AM)
Gah, My internet is a mess today. Hope they will sort it soon. Managed to get this screen up finally. Its the losses from the 7th. Maria will be out of town for a couple of days so updates might not be of the best quality/quantity depending on how the little one will (or won´t) sleep. [image]local://upfiles/32406/33449B38576248FB8F13B1A912333366.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/22/2014 4:36:58 PM)
My internet seems to have sorted itself. Just got a note from Erik letting me know he can´t send the turn tonight because he is stuck at work. So update not coming until tomorrow!

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 5:57:41 AM)
10th May - Battle for the East China Sea ______________________________________________________________________________ The 10th of May saw the first action of what will develop into the battle of the ECS. Hopefully Erik havn´t realized what is about to happen but believes this is a landing at Shanghai. I have done what I can to make it look like that. The objective is really simple. To either destroy or drive the IJN far into the Sea of Japan. I want the ECS to be completely in Allied control. If Erik stays in the same positions tomorrow I hope to sink some of his battle fleet. The KB is out or reach for now. During the night we sank one of the supersubs! quote: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 09, 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Ningpo at 94,60 Japanese Ships SS I-401, hits 25, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Miami CL Birmingham DD Yarnall DD Wickes DD Waller DD Walker SS I-401 is sighted by escort DD Yarnall attacking submerged sub .... SS I-401 forced to surface! DD Yarnall firing on surfaced sub .... DD Wickes firing on surfaced sub .... DD Waller firing on surfaced sub .... DD Walker firing on surfaced sub .... DD Yarnall firing on surfaced sub .... Sub slips beneath the waves The day began with a limited sweep over a DD TF then followed by a small CV strike. This is the first shots fired. I hope this don´t scare Erik away tomorrow. quote: Morning Air attack on TF, near Fukue-jima at 101,58 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 33 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 5 J2M5 Jack x 4 Ki-83 x 20 Ki-100-I Tony x 12 Allied aircraft F6F-5 Hellcat x 624 SB2C-4 Helldiver x 26 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed Ki-83: 2 destroyed Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-5 Hellcat: 8 destroyed SB2C-4 Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships DD Namikaze DD Yakaze DD Tachikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Fukue-jima at 101,58 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 26 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 1 Ki-83 x 9 Ki-100-I Tony x 6 Allied aircraft F6F-5 Hellcat x 21 SB2C-4 Helldiver x 28 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-83: 1 destroyed Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed SB2C-4 Helldiver: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged Japanese Ships DD Namikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Tachikaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Yakaze -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Fukue-jima at 101,58 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 33 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 11 J2M5 Jack x 6 Ki-83 x 7 Ki-100-I Tony x 11 Allied aircraft F6F-5 Hellcat x 600 SB2C-4 Helldiver x 21 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed Ki-83: 1 destroyed Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-5 Hellcat: 5 destroyed Japanese Ships DD Namikaze, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Tachikaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Yakaze Tomorrow we will move within 7 hexes from what is believed to be 2 BB TFs. Erik havn´t positioned the KB very well as it is too far to launch any counter strikes. I´m not expecting any LBA to launch either as we will be 8 some way off the coast. ------------------------ Tomorrow (see map) ------------------------ During the night the B29s will drop mines at selected harbors and the subs will make a full speed run into position. 1/3rd of the subs are equipped with mines and those will add to the mines dropped by the B29s. There will be massive sweeps ordered for tomorrow. 350 P47Ns will sweep at various targets to wear down CAP and LRCAP. I hope by sweeping Tsushima I can deal a good blow to the KB CAP and gut them on the first day of fighting. We will move to the indicated position with the fleet. This will put us 7 hexes from what is believed to be the BB fleet in two separate TFs. To benefit of this position is that we are still 8 hexes from any major CAP like the 900 fighters at Nagasaki. All this of course depends on Erik staying in position. If he spots the danger he may very well move into the Sea of Japan in which case this operation is a success anyway. [image]local://upfiles/32406/9564AAD7F97349698B5468363A6ADA21.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 8:14:27 AM)
Turn sent...now the pacing begins!

ny59giants -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 8:35:35 AM)
My least favorite phrase during Combat Replay is "Severe Storms." Sometimes I feel the weather is harder to defeat than my opponents moves. [:(]

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 1:00:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants My least favorite phrase during Combat Replay is "Severe Storms." Sometimes I feel the weather is harder to defeat than my opponents moves. [:(] Yeah, seen a lot of those! [:(] Can´t imagine the weather being as bad IRL as it is in the game. We are using advanced weather OFF so we shouldn´t get hit by that weather bug reported earlier. No news from Erik...oddly enough I´m no near as nervous as I usually am doing a major move like this. Don´t know if that is good or bad! [:D]

jeffk3510 -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 4:23:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Allied Navy ______________________________________________________________________________ I put down my TFs in a document to keep track of them. I have to at this point or I would forget half of it. I put down what ships are in what TF and what I named it (I chose an easy naming scheme). Also TF number, where it is and where I intend to send it. This is absolutely essential or things would get lost. I made it into early 45 before I had to start putting things down "externally". Its just impossible otherwise. Now that most of it is gathering for the next battle I thought I share it with you. I might shift some ships around but this is pretty much how it will stay for the next battle. ------------------------ Carrier Forces ------------------------ Fast CV 1 CV Essex, CV Intrepid, CV Hancock, CV Bennington, CV Indomitable, CVL Belleau Wood, CVL Princton, CVL Monterey 606 Planes Fast CV 2 CV Bunker Hill, CV Franklin, CV Valhalla, CV Viking, CV Indefatigable, CV Independence, CV Victorious, CVL Langley, CVL Cowpens 598 Planes Fast CV3 CV Randolph, CV Ticonderoga, CV Shangri-La, CV Midgaard, CV Yggdrasil, CV Illustrious, CVL Baatan, CVL San Jacinto 608 Planes CVE TF 1 17 CVEs 486 Planes CVE TF 2 18 CVEs 478 Planes CVE TF 3 18 CVEs 476 Planes CVE ASW 6 CVEs 112 Planes ------------------------ Battle Fleet ------------------------ Fast BB 1 Iowa, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Missouri Fast BB 2 South Dakota, Indiana, Massachusetts, Alabama Slow BB 1 Maryland, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, Idaho, Califonia Slow BB 2 King George V, Valiant, Queen Elizabeth, Renown Slow BB 3 Arkansas, New York, Texas ------------------------ Cruiser TFs ------------------------ CA 1 Astoria, Minneapolis, San Francisco, Vincennes CA 2 Canberra II, Tuscaloosa, Boston, Pittsburgh, Quincy II CA 3 Dorsetshire, London, Suffolk, Chester, Chicago CA 4 Cumberland, Cornwall CL 1 St. Louis, Phoenix, Nashville, Honolulu CL 2 Montpelier, Birmingham, Mobile, Miami CL3 Pasadena, Wilkes-Barre, Vicksburg, Heimdal CL 4 Biloxi, Columbia, Valkyria, Mjollner CL 5 Gambia, Leander, Richmond, Helena ------------------------ Destroyer TFs ------------------------ 5x 12 Ship Fletcher/Sumner TFs, 1x British DD TF 1x Mixed DD TF ------------------------ En route Luzon ------------------------ British CV Implacable (81 Capacity needs plane upgrades!), 5 CVEs, BB Nelson, BB Howe, CL, Caradoc, CL Emarald, CL Kenya, CL Bermuda, 18 DDs + 2 CLAAs USN CL Duluth, CL Topeka, CL Oklahoma City CL Atlanta II. 13 DDs (varied types) Dumb questions, but do you have all of these as SEPERATE task forces... in other words.. JUST the CVs as their own, the BBs, yada yada.. no mixing? If so, I would be curious to see how the works, vs mixing ships...CVs, CAs, and DDs all in one vs 3 TFs that follow one another. BTW nice Norse Mythology names on the CVs. Enjoying your late war AAR.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 4:43:37 PM)
The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total. I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 5:47:26 PM)
God this game sucks sometimes...extreme overcast. This is the mighty strike that went after the BBs. [:@] quote: F6F-5 Hellcat x 38 SB2C-4 Helldiver x 21

Lokasenna -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 6:02:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister God this game sucks sometimes...extreme overcast. This is the mighty strike that went after the BBs. [:@] quote: F6F-5 Hellcat x 38 SB2C-4 Helldiver x 21 The weather is your true enemy! Time to start up the super secret post-war weather control programs! Seed the clouds! Use UHF to make them go away! Etc. [:D]

jeffk3510 -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 6:02:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total. I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on. It was Nemo. You are correct. I follow the same composition as much as I can.. hard to in the early stages of the war. So EVERY TF you listed has DD escorts to fill the TF up to 12 ships.. I follow. Do you have a dedicated ASW (the x12 DD groups I am assuming) that every TF follows, and everyone is set to react - 0? How do you use the retirement/remain on station setting then? Thanks.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 6:16:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jeffk3510 quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total. I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on. It was Nemo. You are correct. I follow the same composition as much as I can.. hard to in the early stages of the war. So EVERY TF you listed has DD escorts to fill the TF up to 12 ships.. I follow. Do you have a dedicated ASW (the x12 DD groups I am assuming) that every TF follows, and everyone is set to react - 0? How do you use the retirement/remain on station setting then? Thanks. Yes, except the CV/CVE TFs which has 25 ships. Every TF is set to follow Fast CV 1. All set to react 0. I only use single hex patrol zone for movement as I have found that ships tend to ignore "remain on station" I never ever use waypoints or full speed. Less things that can F up. [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 6:17:47 PM)
To tired to do the update tonight. Basically nothing exciting happened. I´ll get the update up tomorrow!

jeffk3510 -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 6:39:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister quote: ORIGINAL: jeffk3510 quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total. I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on. It was Nemo. You are correct. I follow the same composition as much as I can.. hard to in the early stages of the war. So EVERY TF you listed has DD escorts to fill the TF up to 12 ships.. I follow. Do you have a dedicated ASW (the x12 DD groups I am assuming) that every TF follows, and everyone is set to react - 0? How do you use the retirement/remain on station setting then? Thanks. Yes, except the CV/CVE TFs which has 25 ships. Every TF is set to follow Fast CV 1. All set to react 0. I only use single hex patrol zone for movement as I have found that ships tend to ignore "remain on station" I never ever use waypoints or full speed. Less things that can F up. [:)] Ive noticed the same things on "remain on station" sometimes and have gone the same route as a 1 hex patrol. Especially SAGs.. they tend to actually react that way. Thanks.

Lokasenna -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 7:31:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jeffk3510 quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister quote: ORIGINAL: jeffk3510 quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total. I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on. It was Nemo. You are correct. I follow the same composition as much as I can.. hard to in the early stages of the war. So EVERY TF you listed has DD escorts to fill the TF up to 12 ships.. I follow. Do you have a dedicated ASW (the x12 DD groups I am assuming) that every TF follows, and everyone is set to react - 0? How do you use the retirement/remain on station setting then? Thanks. Yes, except the CV/CVE TFs which has 25 ships. Every TF is set to follow Fast CV 1. All set to react 0. I only use single hex patrol zone for movement as I have found that ships tend to ignore "remain on station" I never ever use waypoints or full speed. Less things that can F up. [:)] Ive noticed the same things on "remain on station" sometimes and have gone the same route as a 1 hex patrol. Especially SAGs.. they tend to actually react that way. Thanks. To my knowledge, TFs set to Remain on Station will not react.

jeffk3510 -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/23/2014 10:09:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: jeffk3510 quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister quote: ORIGINAL: jeffk3510 quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total. I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on. It was Nemo. You are correct. I follow the same composition as much as I can.. hard to in the early stages of the war. So EVERY TF you listed has DD escorts to fill the TF up to 12 ships.. I follow. Do you have a dedicated ASW (the x12 DD groups I am assuming) that every TF follows, and everyone is set to react - 0? How do you use the retirement/remain on station setting then? Thanks. Yes, except the CV/CVE TFs which has 25 ships. Every TF is set to follow Fast CV 1. All set to react 0. I only use single hex patrol zone for movement as I have found that ships tend to ignore "remain on station" I never ever use waypoints or full speed. Less things that can F up. [:)] Ive noticed the same things on "remain on station" sometimes and have gone the same route as a 1 hex patrol. Especially SAGs.. they tend to actually react that way. Thanks. To my knowledge, TFs set to Remain on Station will not react. Correct. I mean that if I keep them in a patrol hex, they will react.

FeurerKrieg -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 1:16:49 AM)
Always stuff to learn. So do I understand correctly that this: TF1: 4 BB, 8 DD TF2: 4CA, 8 DD Is better than this? TF1: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD TF2: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD If anyone has a link to a thread discussing Nemo's testing I'd love to read it.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 4:27:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna To my knowledge, TFs set to Remain on Station will not react. I can´t swear by it but I´m pretty certain I have had reactions despite RoS set. quote: ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg Always stuff to learn. So do I understand correctly that this: TF1: 4 BB, 8 DD TF2: 4CA, 8 DD Is better than this? TF1: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD TF2: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD If anyone has a link to a thread discussing Nemo's testing I'd love to read it. Yes, that is correct. I think the discussion is somewhere in the GJ vs Rader AAR.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 4:47:57 AM)
10th-11th May -45 ______________________________________________________________________________ Frustrating turn! ------------------------ East China Sea ------------------------ Everything works exactly as intended. Except for the fact that 100 planes out of 3500 flew...Bloody weather. It turns out Erik has been using empty xAKs as a shield in front of his combat ships. Probably to eat up OPS and leave any combat ships too far away at sea when dawn break. Smart. My subs sink 3 of them. I lose another 6 subs to mines and DCs. No TTs against anything important. The P47N sweeps catch some of KBs CAP down at 20k. This is the first of about 10 sweeps. Nice! quote: Morning Air attack on Tsushima , at 103,56 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 105 Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 7 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 16 Ki-84r Frank x 11 Ki-100-I Tony x 1 Ki-102b Randy x 11 Allied aircraft P-47N Thunderbolt x 24 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 12 destroyed Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 2 destroyed Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed During the day we shoot down 84 KB Fighters. No doubt they are the best he has. Good haul! Erik isn´t too happy with the P47N [:)] After that the only strike goes in against the only TF in the area which isn´t blanketed by weather.... [8\|] quote: Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tsushima at 102,56 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 28 minutes Allied aircraft F6F-5 Hellcat x 39 SB2C-4 Helldiver x 29 Allied aircraft losses SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 damaged SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships E Hiyodori, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Kusunoki E Yanagi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires The Fleet will now move slightly to the south to get into a position to send in the DDs against anything that doesn´t withdraw into the Sea of Japan. ------------------------ China ------------------------ We get a good lick in against the Canton/HK stack. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 80,58 (near Kukong) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 199987 troops, 3735 guns, 3235 vehicles, Assault Value = 7289 Defending force 108553 troops, 1244 guns, 381 vehicles, Assault Value = 3450 Allied adjusted assault: 4494 Japanese adjusted defense: 3268 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3613 casualties reported Squads: 229 destroyed, 357 disabled Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 36 disabled Engineers: 8 destroyed, 18 disabled Guns lost 80 (38 destroyed, 42 disabled) Allied ground losses: 5578 casualties reported Squads: 49 destroyed, 825 disabled Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 65 disabled Engineers: 19 destroyed, 343 disabled Guns lost 206 (4 destroyed, 202 disabled) Vehicles lost 53 (4 destroyed, 49 disabled) A Chinese Corp and an Indian ID are pretty trashed but the rest of the troops could have attacked again if it wasn´t for supply. I´ll have to live with the fact that Erik got away. Well played by Erik. I have to stand down my bombers for now and let them heal up. I´ll also divert a bunch of troops to take Canton/HK while the rest move North towards Changsha. [image]local://upfiles/32406/F3C48CC32EE34EC6AAB3562D9B09F992.jpg[/image]

CaptBeefheart -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 7:30:37 AM)
Lemme guess, Gunzan landing (AKA Kunsan or Gunsan)? Cheers, CC

aztez -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 8:33:58 AM)
Lets hope you wohn't get screwed up by the weather. Always dangerous to have allied carriers so close to LBA... even at later months! [:D] Next couple of turns should definately be intresting ones...

jeffk3510 -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 1:08:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg Always stuff to learn. So do I understand correctly that this: TF1: 4 BB, 8 DD TF2: 4CA, 8 DD Is better than this? TF1: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD TF2: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD If anyone has a link to a thread discussing Nemo's testing I'd love to read it. It is in Greyjoy vs Rader in his AAR - The Power of Inexperience. I also have a word file if you want. Thanks.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 2:21:02 PM)
12th May -45 ______________________________________________________________________________ We are staring at each other across the ring! The coming week will decide the war. ------------------------ East China Sea ------------------------ My fleet withdrew a couple of hexes SW to see what Erik would do. While I might have missed the BBs I still managed to chase the IJN away. The BBs have moved to Hiroshima/Kure oddly enough. He might try to come up from the south and catch my shipping at Okinawa. No sign of KB. I think Erik might he pulled it back further into the Sea of Japan. For tomorrow the fleet will withdraw 2 hexes south. We are linking up with the AUX fleet to refuel and rearm and replenish the losses suffered. The we will have to go in again. While the IJN is now dealt with I still have the IJAAF to deal with. But now with the airfields exposed to naval bombardments I´m confident I can chase the LBA away. Erik has only one level 9 AF on Kyushu and that is Nagasaki. I will probably need 3 days to get into position and clear the smaller shipping along the coast. There are many MTBs, DEs and other useless crafts in place. I lost 2 subs sunk outright and another 5 had to RTB. I have to take the punishment for now. Erik is darting his DEs in and out. If he tries that in two days though... ------------------------ Okinawa ------------------------ All bases are now maxed out! Barges have started to pick all the engineers off the island to assemble at Naha. ------------------------ China ------------------------ Quiet day. My bomber fleet is stood down and have taken new pilots and planes. I will let them rest for 1 week before beginning the assault on Canton/HK. I can then rebase the the bombers further to the east. The armor has turned back towards our lines. They are too exposed and too easily cut off with 5000 Japanese AV behind them. ------------------------ Strat bombing ------------------------ The B24s take off and again hit nothing. Again weather was appalling with "heavy rain". I have had little luck with weather as of late. [:@] I lose 7 B24s for 4 NFs. Not good. [image]local://upfiles/32406/42A00507D7E74E3E986AD8FAE552B267.jpg[/image]

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 3:01:43 PM)
I know I sound like a broken record, but remember that a fighter might be a kami instead. Ditto on Formosa.

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