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JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 3:58:59 PM)
Good point. Have to keep that in mind!

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 5:37:12 PM)
Had forgotten Erik is leaving town for the weekend. But he sent me a turn before leaving. I´ll get an update up tomorrow but no more turns until Monday most likely.

Mike McCreery -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/24/2014 7:19:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna To my knowledge, TFs set to Remain on Station will not react. I can´t swear by it but I´m pretty certain I have had reactions despite RoS set. quote: ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg Always stuff to learn. So do I understand correctly that this: TF1: 4 BB, 8 DD TF2: 4CA, 8 DD Is better than this? TF1: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD TF2: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD If anyone has a link to a thread discussing Nemo's testing I'd love to read it. Yes, that is correct. I think the discussion is somewhere in the GJ vs Rader AAR. Sometimes a taskforce on ROS will react if you dont have the routing set to direct/absolute. If you have that set then I have never seen one move.

Barb -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/25/2014 8:43:38 AM)
Chasing Jap battleships by your own battleships is probably pretty damn dangerous business in relation to your possible losses in in points. Not to mention that any damage your battlewagons sustain, it will have to be repaired at Pearl/CONUS taking months? Why are they so important for you to kill on offensive mission? Let them come into your prepared defense, or even better, get them by air (but you have to use your carriers cleverly so as not to loose another 500 planes in an attempt against strong CAP...

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/25/2014 12:06:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Barb Chasing Jap battleships by your own battleships is probably pretty damn dangerous business in relation to your possible losses in in points. Not to mention that any damage your battlewagons sustain, it will have to be repaired at Pearl/CONUS taking months? Why are they so important for you to kill on offensive mission? Let them come into your prepared defense, or even better, get them by air (but you have to use your carriers cleverly so as not to loose another 500 planes in an attempt against strong CAP... You are correct, hence I wrote: quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister The objective is really simple. To either destroy or drive the IJN far into the Sea of Japan. Erik has the KB, the BBs (10-12) and probably 10 or so smaller TFs guarding Kyushu. Either have to destroy them or chase them away. Really don´t want to see an IJN interference among the thousands of Amphibs. That could be very, very nasty. Good news is Erik decided to flee. That doesn´t mean he won´t be back though. With some luck he might mistake the attempt to close Nagasaki as a landing and come rushing in. The war will be decided in the next 5-7 turns...

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/25/2014 4:39:02 PM)
13th May -45 ______________________________________________________________________________ Very quiet turn. ------------------------ East China Sea ------------------------ The fleet rendezvous with the AUX ships taking on fuel and ammo. Planes are topped off again from the VRF squadrons. Interestingly enough the entire fleet is undetected under thunderstorms. I wonder if that makes Erik nervous or if he believes we have retired out of the area. KB and the BBs have disappeared. Erik seems to have kept his bombers back. Around 2000 are spread among Tokyo, Nagoya and Osaka. Another 500 is a Hiroshima. That is a lot of bombers... [X(] I guess he doesn´t dare move them forward with the coast exposed to bombardment. I guess he doesn´t really have to either. They are probably range limited to strike anything landing on Kyushu but not farther then that. Not much I can do about that. I´ll move the fleet west of Saishu To. That will put me in a good spot to strike at Nagasaki as well as send in the DD/CLs to clear all the small ASW TFs in the area. I need them gone so they won´t eat OPS for the naval bombardments. It will also allow some long range search flying from the CVEs to take a peak into the Sea of Japan. I forgot to cancel the "follow TF" on one of the amphibs which moved towards the fleet ending up alone in no mans land after an encounter with a sub. That could have ended badly... Going to send it back to Naha under full speed. 2 ASW TFs are dispatched to lead the TF in. ------------------------ China ------------------------ Nothing to note. All bombers are resting. Looks like Erik is withdrawing towards Shanghai? No idea why? Perhaps he intends to superstack there rather then building a proper MRL. I´m going to send some infantry up towards the Changsha. ------------------------ DEI ------------------------ Some Jakes go after my barge TF again but this the P51s on LRCAP deal with them. Erik also sends in a small DD TF sinking 3 more barges. I have some Fletcher arriving in 2 days. That will put an end to that.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/26/2014 3:47:43 PM)
Turn sent to Erik. Most likely there won´t be another one until tomorrow.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/27/2014 7:43:58 AM)
Erik got home really late last night and didn´t have time to send the turn. He should send it to me sometime during the day so an update won´t come until tonight. Not expecting anything spectacular as we are just transiting into the start off position. I´m just hoping the slow BBs will make the 6 hexes which is their maximum distance at cruise speed. If not I´ll lose another turn. I need them 6 hexes from Nagasaki with a full load of OPS and fuel.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/27/2014 2:38:23 PM)
14th May -45 ______________________________________________________________________________ As expected not much happened. ------------------------ East China Sea ------------------------ I lose 2 more subs this turn. But now I´m in a great position to strike back at all those "Es" between Kyushu and Korea so hopefully sub losses will shrink once they are dealt with. As a bonus one of Eriks "E" TFs working a bit further to the south reacted into (at least I think so) one of my DD TFs hunting MTBs around Kagoshima. quote: Day Time Surface Combat, near Fukue-jima at 100,59, Range 12,000 Yards Japanese Ships E No.82, Shell hits 18, and is sunk E No.84, Shell hits 13, and is sunk E No.102, Shell hits 23, and is sunk E No.104, Shell hits 25, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Purdy DD Grenville DD Kempenfelt DD Eskimo My navy didn´t move as far as I had hoped. Erik spotted some of my TFs including one of the BB TFs, a CL TF, the oilers and the AEs. Highest DL is 3/3 though and none of the CV/CVE TFs are spotted. But he have to realize they are there. Not really sure have to play the next turn yet. I will probably send in some of the Fletcher TFs this turn while the fleet moves the last hex. That should rid the pesky MTBs and "Es" but might give away my intentions. ------------------------ China ------------------------ Nothing to report. ------------------------ DEI ------------------------ I had a DD TF set to strike the Jap DDs at Singers. They only moved 3 hexes though? No idea why. ------------------------ Stratbombing ------------------------ I finally managed to knock out the 60 LI at Kagoshima. Only took 500 B29s 3 weeks. Lucky me nightbombing is so overpowered or I would have to do it for three more weeks. [8\|] [image]local://upfiles/32406/5699062FBC774D1D896FC4AB917B078E.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 3:15:04 AM)
2nd Battle for the East China Sea ______________________________________________________________________________ So, I had my first CV reaction. Not a pleasant experience...the CV Fleet separated from the Amphibs and that cost me some Amphibs I shouldn´t have lost. But luckily the CVs/CVEs stayed together. Turns like these are hard because you lose so much. You have to keep the bigger picture in mind. Oddly enough today was a victory. Bittersweet but still a victory. Erik had his chance and did a lot of damage. But not enough... ------------------------ The Battle ------------------------ Yesterday I decided to move the entire fleet closer to the coast. I did this to intentionally draw Eriks strikes. The thought was that I rather take the strikes when not having to devote LRCAP to covering a landing or split the CVEs off. Not sure it was the right call but done is done. I also decided to stand down my strike planes to put the Escorts on CAP. This I think was the right call as at the end of the day Corsairs was spent with only 150 left on CAP while the 700 Hellcats still flying managed to deflect countless of LBA strikes. There was so much happening its hard to report everything but basically the entire Japanese air force and the KB launched from 3 hexes against my CV fleet. I got a really good CAP up but two KB strikes managed to get through. quote: Morning Air attack on TF, near Nakadori-jima at 101,56 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 36 minutes Japanese aircraft A7M2 Sam x 187 B7A2 Grace x 182 D4Y4 Judy x 261 Allied aircraft Corsair II x 121 Corsair IV x 114 Hellcat I x 30 Hellcat F.II x 16 Seafire IIC x 16 Seafire L.III x 4 F4U-1A Corsair x 78 F4U-1D Corsair x 552 F6F-5 Hellcat x 887 Japanese aircraft losses A7M2 Sam: 65 destroyed B7A2 Grace: 60 destroyed, 14 damaged B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak D4Y4 Judy: 76 destroyed, 22 damaged D4Y4 Judy: 4 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses Corsair IV: 1 destroyed Hellcat F.II: 1 destroyed Seafire IIC: 1 destroyed F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed F4U-1D Corsair: 7 destroyed F6F-5 Hellcat: 12 destroyed Allied Ships CVL Independence, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires CVL Langley, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CV Viking, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, Kamikaze hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Valhalla, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires CVL Cabot, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Healy CV Victorious, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage CVL Cowpens, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires CV Franklin, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Makin Island, Torpedo hits 1 CV Indefatigable, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage CLAA Oakland, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Mertz DD Remey, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Corregidor, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CLAA San Diego, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Evans, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires DD Halford, Bomb hits 1 DD John Henley, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk DD Hale DD Albert Grant, Bomb hits 2, on fire DD Converse CVE Matanikau, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Luce, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage That is the worst strike. Another KB strike in the afternoon finished most of the damaged ships off. Sadly and most importantly the Amphibs didn´t react and was left without CAP which cost me. Luckily not too badly. I lose only 2 APAs and another 10 or so damaged but in no danger of sinking. Considering there are some 200 APAs/AKAs its not going to change anything. ------------------------ Losses ------------------------ Sunk: CV Frankling, CV Victorious, CV Valhalla, CV Viking, CVL Independence, CVL Cabot and CVL Langley Will sink: Indefatigable, 3 CVEs, DD Remney, 2 APAs Might make it: CV Bunker Hill (64/53/37) ------------------------ Aftermath ------------------------ This might look very bad but I only lost about one seventh of my carrier capabilities. Not much given the big picture. Now I just have to make sure I havn´t suffered the losses in vain. I put the CV Fleet there to do a job and they did what I wanted them to do. 1700 Japanese planes are shot down during the battle. The KB air wings are wrecked again and LBA won´t be a factor for at least a week. My amphibs are intact. Tomorrow we land in Korea. [image]local://upfiles/32406/999E76E4488745A695822B627A229AB3.jpg[/image]

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 4:23:08 AM)
Korea ______________________________________________________________________________ This has been my goal for the last two years. I realized very early that even securing the entire Okinawa chain would not be enough to bring the Japanese to their knees. There is simply not enough room there. Even maxed out there is only room for about 2000 engines. That might sound a lot but its not enough to maintain CAP, house the 4Es, provide escort, sweep, recon and search. The 4Es/2Es Fleet alone take up 3500-4000 engines. The B29s another 2000... So I need at least one level 9 AF close to the HI. This left me with either the HI themselves, Hokkaido or Korea. Landing at the HI would mean fighting a lot of restricted troops and I lack the infrastructure to land on Hokkaido. So Korea was the only viable option. Especially considering I had already decided to secure the Philippines and Okinawa/Formosa. The key was the battle last turn. I had to make it out of of that battle with enough so I could maintain a LOC to Korea and remove the KB and Japanese LBA as a threat. Done and done. The only thing that could have made me cancel the landing would have been if I had lost enough to be unable to to supply the troops in Korea or the loss of the Amphibs themselves. That is why I don´t consider last turn as a defeat. As long as I can land and secure a base on Korea last turn was the one that won the war. We are landing at Moppo next turn with 5500 AV including ALL the allied armor and USMC divisions. This base has a level 5 AFs and I´m going to take a chance and not bombard as I want a CAP up ASAP. I´m confident once we are landed we can quickly secure the entire peninsula. Going by Eriks usual MO and SIGINT there isn´t much troops in Korea and he can´t bring in anything from Manchuria. His reserves would be whatever shattered unrestricted troops currently rebuilding on the HI (loads of SIGINT on those). He might try and ship those over but he simply doesn´t have the numbers anywhere to do anything ín Korea. If we do happen to run into trouble we have the second wave of 4000 AV ready to be deployed. I think its highly unlikely they will be needed in Korea though. I have to focus on getting everything right tomorrow first of all. So fingers crossed for tomorrow. Tomorrow is the one that really matters! [image]local://upfiles/32406/ED6B798899054D9291E9AECA94D9402D.jpg[/image]

EHansen -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 4:23:42 AM)
Joc, were you CV and CVE TFs set to follow a SC TF? Were they set to follow one another? I am trying to fully understand how these things work.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 5:38:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EHansen Joc, were you CV and CVE TFs set to follow a SC TF? Were they set to follow one another? I am trying to fully understand how these things work. They were following an ASW TF. I don´t think anyone fully understands reaction. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it don´t. I have been lucky so far to avoid the worst of it. Can´t dodge it forever though!

Encircled -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 7:12:52 AM)
Ouch! with the casualties, but if the landing comes off then its worth it. I'd be worried about a mass sortie by the IJN to crush the landing though

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 8:18:56 AM)
Yeah, more then worth it. As I mentioned it might look much but its only 1/7th of my total CV plane capacity. And if the landing succeed next turn the CVs are pretty much finished doing offensive missions. Not very worried about by a IJN sortie. I think Erik is convinced I will land on Kyushu. And even if he did foresee Moppo I have 10 or so SCTF protecting the Amphibs. But of course anything can happen!

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 9:43:09 AM)
Got the replay back. Hard to tell how successful the day was. I have no idea what the hell happened but it looks like my CV fleet divided into 3 different parts and scattered all over the place. As did most of my SCTFs. None covering the Amphibs... [8\|] Stuff did unload Moppo but no counter bombardment means I don´t know how much unloaded. The amphibs took a beating but nothing crippling. As I had hoped the had unloaded the troops when struck. The CVEs damaged yesterday (I had sent them to Moppo to cover under the CV/CVE CAP that ended up somewhere else) was sunk though as well as Bunker Hill. Looks like 5-8 CVEs were lost. On the more positive side my CL and DD TFs just tore into Eriks "Es" and DDs. I must have sunk 20-40 of them. He was already using 2-3 DDs to 3-5 Capital ships and after today he must really be scraping the barrel. Kongo, Haruna and Hei is also sunk by CV air. My CL TF led my Montpelier was the star of the show. BB Yamato and Musashi showed up and sank 2 DDs. Expensive DD killers! [:D] As I said its hard to really tell what happened without seeing the turn. But if the troops were indeed all unloaded as the replay seems to indicate then its "check mate" for the Japanese empire! [:)] The reason for the lack of bombardment at Moppo is unknown. Might be that Erik doesn´t have any combat troops at Moppo but thats unlikely as SIGINT and Recon indicated otherwise. More likely he has them in "rest mode". I have a RGT and a broken down ID identified via SIGINT.

veji1 -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 11:04:59 AM)
Well you went the soviet way really, but it seems to have worked : The battle will be bloody and since blood has to be given, you might as well try to give it in a way that allows you to still serve your goals. A very dark day for the USN who lost around 30 000 guys in a day, but once Korea is secured, Japan will be bombed into submission. Well done.

Barb -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 12:08:39 PM)
Well, as far as I can tell, you've got your ass kicked all over the place... Yes, you have landed your ground forces in strength at Korea, but at what cost? Just VPs for lost carriers must be great. Not to mention all the other ships that will have to go half the world to get repairs. Would you be able to resupply them regularly, given the opposition? Also why you had moved so close to Kyushu? Wouldnt it be much better to skirt Chinese coast north of Shanghai and then turn directly east for Moppo? Or wouldnt it be even better to land further north at Chinnampo/Keijo - cutting Korea in half? That would have ment much lesser exposure to enemy airpower as well as surface combatants...

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 12:16:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: veji1 Well you went the soviet way really, but it seems to have worked : The battle will be bloody and since blood has to be given, you might as well try to give it in a way that allows you to still serve your goals. A very dark day for the USN who lost around 30 000 guys in a day, but once Korea is secured, Japan will be bombed into submission. Well done. Yeah, very bloody day. But given the opposing forces (KB + 3500 LBA bombers) getting away cheap was kind of unlikely. [:D]

ny59giants -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 12:28:16 PM)
When you had mentioned weeks ago that you had one more major op left, I thought it would be Korea. Landing in Japan is very difficult to do. The next few weeks of the war will be interested to see as what will Erik send across from Japan and what will come from China? Once August comes, the Russians will wipe out whatever is left.

catwhoorg -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 12:29:28 PM)
1700 VPs from the downed aircraft, goes a logn way to help offset the VP loss of the ships as well.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 12:48:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Yeah, more then worth it. As I mentioned it might look much but its only 1/7th of my total CV plane capacity. And if the landing succeed next turn the CVs are pretty much finished doing offensive missions. Not very worried about by a IJN sortie. I think Erik is convinced I will land on Kyushu. And even if he did foresee Moppo I have 10 or so SCTF protecting the Amphibs. But of course anything can happen! He posted the whole CR for the "carrier day" battles. Some nice post-beta kami data in there. I think he should have gone more heavy on them if he could have. Don't know. But they LOVE APA/AKAs.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 12:49:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants When you had mentioned weeks ago that you had one more major op left, I thought it would be Korea. Landing in Japan is very difficult to do. The next few weeks of the war will be interested to see as what will Erik send across from Japan and what will come from China? Once August comes, the Russians will wipe out whatever is left. And two months until Mr. Soviet wakes up. Maybe you could arrange a hand-shake somewhere in northern Korea?

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 12:53:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Barb Well, as far as I can tell, you've got your ass kicked all over the place... Yes, you have landed your ground forces in strength at Korea, but at what cost? Just VPs for lost carriers must be great. Not to mention all the other ships that will have to go half the world to get repairs. Would you be able to resupply them regularly, given the opposition? Also why you had moved so close to Kyushu? Wouldnt it be much better to skirt Chinese coast north of Shanghai and then turn directly east for Moppo? Or wouldnt it be even better to land further north at Chinnampo/Keijo - cutting Korea in half? That would have ment much lesser exposure to enemy airpower as well as surface combatants... Ass handed to me? Losing a couple of CVs and CVEs for Korea? Really? [X(] I don´t think you really understand the situation. I don´t need the CVs anymore besides escorting convoys to and from Korea. I will still have around 2800 CV planes once the squadrons are replenished. That´s 3 times the size of the KB. More then enough to shepard convoys to Koera. And that is not taking into account I can put local radar guided CAP up over Moppo in 2 days. 250 P47Ns are pretty nice CAP. What ships should I send to repair? Besides the CVs (which sank) I only have some CLs and a couple of DDs severely damaged. All can be repaired at the 50 point repair yard at Manila in under 30 days. Besides that I have some CAs with light damage and 2 old BBs hit by bombs. I won´t even bother repairing the BBs as I have no need for them. The first day I only lost 260 VPs. Yes the CVs are worth a lot but 1700 planes are 1700 VPs. 260 VPs is about a days worth of VPs normally. Erik probably lost another 1000 planes this turn plus 3 BBs. I would be surprised if I´m very much in the negative for VPs today if at all. Yes it would have been much better to land higher up in Korea. But 120 days ago when I started prepping the troops that wasn´t an option and China was still very much in the fight and I wasn´t too keen on boxing myself in the yellow sea between Korea and China. Certainly not going to waste another 100 days to reprepp them. I did skirt the Chinese coast up to Moppo. The reason my CVs ended up close to the Kyushu coast was (as I stated earlier) that they reacted towards the KB. Losing 6 CVs (2 British) and 6-8 CVEs doesn´t change anything at this stage. Had I done so in mid 44 it would have been a disaster. Now its not even an inconvenience. The only thing that matters now is weather or not I can sustain the troops in Korea. They had 170.000 supply with them which should be enough until I begin staging bombers. If I hadn´t been absolutely certain I could resupply them after the battle yesterday I wouldn´t have landed today. Everything has its price. Am I happy I lost the CVs? Of course not. But they are there to be used. They are a tool. Going up against the KB and 3500 LBA based bombers backed up by 2500 Fighters you WILL lose stuff. If you didn´t something would be wrong with the game. But I did not lose them for nothing and Korea for a couple of CVs is a bargain. Having those CVs are not going to win the war. Having Korea will. A tool never used is a useless tool.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 12:59:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants When you had mentioned weeks ago that you had one more major op left, I thought it would be Korea. Landing in Japan is very difficult to do. The next few weeks of the war will be interested to see as what will Erik send across from Japan and what will come from China? Once August comes, the Russians will wipe out whatever is left. My same conclusion. My main thinking was that landing in Korea I wouldn´t have to face all those restricted troops. Korea would give the same results without the restricted troops. I actually don´t think Erik will send any troops to Korea. I don´t think he has any to send. Certainly not enough to stop 5500 AV worth of Allied armor and Marines! And he also knows the Russians will arrive shortly and wipe out whatever he sends anyway. I think the best he can to is to just turtle up in the HI and hope is air force can deal with the air campaign.

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 1:01:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: catwhoorg 1700 VPs from the downed aircraft, goes a logn way to help offset the VP loss of the ships as well. Yeah, as I wrote in my reply to Bard I was only 260ish VPs minus for the day. [:)]

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 1:03:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 He posted the whole CR for the "carrier day" battles. Some nice post-beta kami data in there. I think he should have gone more heavy on them if he could have. Don't know. But they LOVE APA/AKAs. Yeah, that was really his only hope. To cause enough damage to the Amphibs that I had to cancel the OP because of LCU losses or sink enough combat ships that sustaining the troops would be impossible in the future. He didn´t achieve any of that so I guess that means I won? [:D]

ny59giants -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 1:06:59 PM)
Erik's supply situation in Korea, China, and Manchuria is going to get bad very soon. Keep the foot down on the accelerator!![:D]

JocMeister -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 1:12:49 PM)
A quick question. Does anyone know roughly how many Japanese IDs are available in Korea? He can´t use Manchurian troops without paying PPs to cross the border so most likely the only thing on Korea will be what starts there and possible some unrestricted IDs recovering. I have kind of assumed it wouldn´t be much and this seems confirmed by recon. Havn´t had time to look this up myself properly.

catwhoorg -> RE: Battle for Okinawa! (1/28/2014 1:25:37 PM)
Planes, pilots, (plus supply, HI points, the whole works) must start getting tight at some point. Even if he lost just 50% of those pilots that is a whole lot. That's a baseline estimate, and the real number likely higher. Especially as there were Kamis involved.

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