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warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 1:32:33 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 7 At Pskov, two of the three defenders were successfully attacked. [image]local://upfiles/28156/863AC163F0924F3C9196F17DA79DAB34.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 1:34:26 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 7 In Smolensk there was one success [image]local://upfiles/28156/60DFB87DFF0841BAA035AAB4F3BE686D.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 1:35:48 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 7 ..and the same south of Kursk [image]local://upfiles/28156/E814F1706F6A46C6889341291C08B103.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 1:52:32 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 7 There are five attacks this turn - four in the Soviet Union and one in the Philippines. Southeast of Leningrad Admiral Lutjens fleet provides shore bombardment for Army Group North. At Pskov, Guderian tries to provide HQ Support, as does Rommel at Smolensk. Rokossovsky adds his support in defence of the hex south of Kursk. Also at Smolensk, a Stuka tries to alter the odds, but no where else is this possible for either side.

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 1:57:01 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 7 The first attack is in the Philippines where I seem to have made a mistake with naval gunfire support... essentially the Japanese haven't got any and so the attack is a, not hugely impressive, 3:1 +1 on the Assault table... ...fortunately its a 9 and the Japanese forces are ashore east of Manilla.. [image]local://upfiles/28156/F2E00BDFDE0F445D9804189D6C2CBA00.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 2:01:02 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 7 Next up its the battle along the southern shores of the Gulf of Finland. This is only a 2:1 +1, although the Germans have the choice of table and choose the Blitzkrieg CRT... ..its a 2 (3) and another heavy duty unit - this time the DAK Panzer Corps - is lost to the Wehrmacht.. [image]local://upfiles/28156/8D42D0809BAF4429AED93627C76A5167.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 2:05:06 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 7 And so to Pskov. With the exit from the Baltic blocked once more, this hex becomes absolutely vital to Germany's hopes of making progress toward Leningrad. The odds are 3:1 +2 on the Assault table... ...itsa 6(8) and the defenders lose two units and are shattered - better. [image]local://upfiles/28156/C14E8544E816468A819290651B3EE2EF.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 2:10:56 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 7 And so to Smolensk. This is a 4:1 +1 on the Assault table. Again this is a vital hex. It not only opens up the path to Moscow, but it puts pressure on the Soviet troops threatening to out-flank the Germans in the Ukraine... ...its a 5(6). The attackers are disorganised but the city is taken at least as the surviving defender is shattered. [image]local://upfiles/28156/6A4AB908A7DA45DBA5D02DBCD58DFF9F.jpg[/image]

Centuur -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 2:15:45 PM)
Question: Why do you destroy the more expensive INF and shatter the Moscov MIL? If you empty the USSR MIL pool, you should take cheaper MIL losses if you can, since they are cheap and arrive in the following reinforcement impulse immediately. Sure, the MIL is better, but since it is shattered anyhow and will reappear in Moscow next reinforcement phase, it was better to shatter the INF and let that return in the city you choose...

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 2:16:06 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 7 And so to the final battle of the impulse. The battle for Belgorod. This is a 5:1 +1 on the Blitzkrieg table... ...its a 2(3)... oh dear, what is going on with the dice??? The attackers are disorganised but at least the defenders lose a unit and must retreat. [image]local://upfiles/28156/10E31AAE164E4BB68354E0E389CC4824.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 2:18:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Centuur Question: Why do you destroy the more expensive INF and shatter the Moscov MIL? If you empty the USSR MIL pool, you should take cheaper MIL losses if you can, since they are cheap and arrive in the following reinforcement impulse immediately. Sure, the MIL is better, but since it is shattered anyhow and will reappear in Moscow next reinforcement phase, it was better to shatter the INF and let that return in the city you choose... warspite1 I didn't look into it that closely - I thought I would keep the better quality unit, but I can see from your explanation why it would have made more sense to do things the other way around..

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 2:21:32 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 7 The Germans expend 3 HQ to reorganise units.

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 2:24:10 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 8 The US seek to declare war on the Germans and Italians (80% chance). And they succeed!!

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 2:55:34 PM)
Ignore...[8\|]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 3:04:16 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 8 The Soviets try and get an attack going in the Crimea and send a Sturmovik to try and ground strike the German infantry guarding the neck of the peninsular. The Germans respond with a long range Me-110. Round 1 12 (AC) The Sturmovik is cleared through 10 (No Effect) That was short and sweet, but the Soviet bomber failed to do any damage, and flies back to Sevastopol..

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 3:14:52 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 8 Just one attack this impulse - in southern India the CW get rid of a Partisan.

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 3:31:25 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 Its Fine weather everywhere. With the US in the war the Axis decide its time for action in the Mediterranean before they get overwhelmed.. The Germans send Fliegerkorps X to Malta with the assistance of the Italians. Unfortunately they then get surprised. What should the CW choose here? They could avoid combat, but the chance of destroying the enemy naval air arm is very tempting... [image]local://upfiles/28156/398C6BE275B2420B876F0FC6AFAA544C.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 3:47:19 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 The Allies decide to go with it and to use 4 points to boost their air to air, and 4 points to decrease their opponents air to air rating. Round 1 11 (DC) Given the disparity, that was a poor start!! The Do217k is cleared through. 10 (No Effect) Round 2 10!! (AC) That's shocking! A Sparviero is cleared through 16 (DA) The CW Mosquito is aborted Round 3 6 (AA) The CW gets to choose and decides to abort the Condor 8 (No Effect) Round 4 15 (AA) The CW gets the choice and aborts the second Condor - WHY ISN'T THAT DX PF??? 15 (DA)The Last CW fighter is aborted The Axis get three aircraft through to Grand Harbour (but I confess I do not understand that result in Round 4...) Anyway, the RN put up a wall of AA - well, more like a little picket fence really, with a result of 4 damage points which are given to the German unit. [image]local://upfiles/28156/0335DB820E734623A36316CF36A8D9C3.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 3:51:47 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 The Axis target Ark Royal and manage to damage her, while the cruiser Bonaventure is also earmarked and will also require time in the repair yard. Not to bad a result in the end, but the Allies can count themselves unlucky having got the surprise. [image]local://upfiles/28156/76E1FA673B9B481886EC0E2462D9EAA4.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 3:59:17 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 With MacArthur being out of supply, the temptation is to send over two ground strikes to try and disorganise him. The Japanese would need to throw a 1, but what else are they going to use the aircraft on? Akagi launches a Kate and a Nell is scrambled from Formosa. Come on just a 1 between you girls [sm=innocent0001.gif]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 4:06:12 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 The Germans use their last air mission to try and ground strike the units in Kursk. The Germans mis-calculate (not for the first time [8\|]) and are out-gunned in the sky. Its close though so.... Round 1 11 (DC) The German Henschel is cleared through 12 (No Effect) The Luftwaffe got away with one there.. to compound the agony for the Soviets, the bomber went on to disorganise two units. [image]local://upfiles/28156/2A48B27944524CF48FAF3D5BE0AF3140.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 4:12:02 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 So near ...yet so far... the Nell throws a 2 - close, but no cigar.

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 4:43:07 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 Well we have the mother of all battles going on north of Pskov... Let's recap where we are: The odds are (29:10) 2:1, with the Germans, 11 away from making it 4:1. They bring in four bombers for the job, but the Soviets counter with three of their own. They bring in every fighter they can in support. The Soviets have more aircraft but are out-gunned 9.3:7.8 so it will be a bloody battle one way or another... Round 1 10 (DC) The Germans choose the He-111 to clear through 13 (DA) The Soviets choose which front aircraft to abort - they choose the bomber Round 2 11 (DC) Its going wrong for the Soviets here. The Germans clear through their Ju-88 9 (No Effect) Round 3 6 (DA) The German decides to abort his Fw-190 - they still need bombers through and for the Soviets not to get through! 10 (AC)! Agghh The Germans have to put a Soviet bomber through The Germans still need one more bomber through to get 3:1 Round 4 12 (AC) and that's it - the Soviets clear the Do-17 through 10 (No Effect) Neither side can do anymore so abort. That must be just about the least bloody, bloody battle in the history of bloody battles.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/E87BC6FEE693468488E826C4A883BCE1.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 4:53:13 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 So to the next air battle. Both sides have brought everything they can to the party once more. The Soviets are out-gunned 6.6:5.0.... Round 1 11 (DC) The Germans clear their Stuka through 8 (DA) The Soviets get to choose and go for their front bomber to be aborted The Germans need 4 points without reply to get 3:1. They have the points so far but the Soviets still have a bomber.. Round 2 11 (DC) The Germans get their Do-17 through 15 (DX) The Soviets choose which aircraft to destroy (pilot survived). They choose the Fighter. The Soviets have no choice but to abort. [image]local://upfiles/28156/0464301B4802458088C0522919FD05BE.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 5:00:27 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 Well there's a surprise...I've mucked up. The air factors were halved so the Soviets saved the 3:1 anyway [8\|] First things first, the two Partisans are disposed of in France. Right, now to more important stuff. Firstly to the Philippines... Thanks to some weighty ordnance from the Imperial Japanese Navy, the odds are 5:1 (no modifier) for the Assault on Manilla... ..its a 5. The attackers are disorganised but the Japanese won't care - MacArthur is destroyed (but vows to return). [image]local://upfiles/28156/0181DB6C84F041D4B7F14F313390D8DC.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 5:10:12 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 So back to the Soviet Union and two far from straight forward attacks. The Germans will need to throw better or this will hurt... Firstly its the attack north of Pskov. The Blitzkrieg table is used but the odds are just 2:1 (no modifier)... ...at last the Germans get a reasonable throw - its a 9. The Soviets lose a unit and the survivor is shattered. [image]local://upfiles/28156/4092E27C827C45E1B00EDA05C614A9A9.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 5:14:29 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 And so to the final attack of the impulse. This is 3:1 +2 on the Assault table... ...its an 8 (10). The Soviets lose two units and the survivor is shattered. This is not a good turn for the Soviets whose strong position in the south is now looking very precarious... [image]local://upfiles/28156/5C7AF82C02A2439CAC046AF76A6F8D9D.jpg[/image]

Orm -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 7:13:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 9 The Allies decide to go with it and to use 4 points to boost their air to air, and 4 points to decrease their opponents air to air rating. Round 1 11 (DC) Given the disparity, that was a poor start!! The Do217k is cleared through. 10 (No Effect) Round 2 10!! (AC) That's shocking! A Sparviero is cleared through 16 (DA) The CW Mosquito is aborted Round 3 6 (AA) The CW gets to choose and decides to abort the Condor 8 (No Effect) Round 4 15 (AA) The CW gets the choice and aborts the second Condor - WHY ISN'T THAT DX PF??? 15 (DA)The Last CW fighter is aborted The Axis get three aircraft through to Grand Harbour (but I confess I do not understand that result in Round 4...) Anyway, the RN put up a wall of AA - well, more like a little picket fence really, with a result of 4 damage points which are given to the German unit. [image]local://upfiles/28156/0335DB820E734623A36316CF36A8D9C3.jpg[/image] I bet that the answer that the result became a AA instead of a DX because Axis had the Re.2000 as their front fighter and CW had the Beaufighter as their front fighter and that you play with the option twin-engined fighters. If the front FTR (Beaufighter) has a orange air to air rating and the enemy FTR (Re.2000) do not then the combat result gets downgraded. Note that not all two-engined fighters has a orange air to air rating. In this fight the Mosquito is a example of this. RAC: 14.3.2 Combat .... Option 53: (Twin-engined fighters) In air-to-air combat during the day, all front fighters with an orange airto- air rating achieve one result less than normal when the front enemy fighter in the combat does not have an orange air-to-air rating. In these cases an AX result becomes a DX, a DX becomes an AA, an AA becomes a DA and so on. A DC result is unaffected. [Clarification. The pilot death result is unchanged - Jan. 18, 2008.]

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/12/2014 7:40:25 PM)
Thank-you. Mmm maybe - I cannot remember what the position was but that at least sounds plausible. I wonder how many of these optionals are actually worthwhile in terms of really useful additions to a strategic level game? Have to think about that some more and will look out for it in future air combats.

warspite1 -> RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel (1/13/2014 1:52:31 PM)
Mar/Apr 1943 Impulse: 10 The turn moves back to the Allies and the attempts of the Soviets to sort out their lines..

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