2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome)

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STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (1/18/2014 12:22:22 PM)
Blizzard is an horrible experience for GHC and I wanted to try the new "reduced blizzard" developped by Morvael. My opponent is frogmarc, it'a a GC, full FOW, locked HQ, no home rules. I hope that frogmarc isn't a chessplayer like Schascha... It's my 6th GC versus human as german. (3W 2L). This AAR will focuse on the mild blizzard and his effects so we go directly to turn 17, before the mud [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/5540302217.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (no frogmarc please) (1/18/2014 12:29:46 PM)
See below the destroyed units [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/15201817losses.jpg[/img] and my plans for the snow turns for the 11-1941 snow offensive [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/839644172.jpg[/img] due to my overextended lines, I was unable to achieve my goals, and only gained some ground near Rostov, Kalinin and Kaluga

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (no frogmarc please) (1/18/2014 12:37:19 PM)
And now the mild blizzard... I decided to hold the line, even in the South! The soviets attacks were efficient in cleaar terrain but: - I was able to counterattack during the 2nd turn of blizzard [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/82471326b1.jpg[/img] [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/33997426ct.jpg[/img] -I used Pzd in cities like anchors or firemen

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (no frogmarc please) (1/18/2014 12:42:42 PM)
Turn 28, 25th december 1941 Frogmarc increases the pressure but the line holds [img]http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/735645281.jpg[/img] [img]http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/905059282.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (no frogmarc please) (1/18/2014 12:46:30 PM)
Frogmarc uses either Hasty or Deliberate attacks [img]http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/44865928b.jpg[/img] I continue to counterattack. want to hold Voronezh, Kaluga and Kalinin but give ground in front of Ryazan and Rostov [img]http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/36449228b2.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (no frogmarc please) (1/28/2014 9:43:39 PM)
Blizzard is now over! It was a fantastic winter with intense fighting. I tried to hold ground in the South and fought hard for Voronezh. It was a mistake, I suffered huge losses and retreated till the end of February. North of Kaluga, I was able to counterattack begining end january. In the north, the finns had to retreat. [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/55200038en.jpg[/img] Now both armies are exhausted The OOB [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/25209438oob.jpg[/img] and my pool [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/34355940pool.jpg[/img]

Disgruntled Veteran -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (no frogmarc please) (1/28/2014 10:42:39 PM)
700 Operational tanks and 0 armaments. GHC is going to have a rough start in 42. I'd keep my tank divisions off the front and on rails until early June. Let the infantry and motorized units do early spring operations.

loki100 -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (no frogmarc please) (1/29/2014 6:53:35 AM)
thanks for putting this up. Further evidence that the mild blizzard really does give a far more fun experience and with the winter period often ending with German counterblows at least somewhere on the front. The price, as DV notes, seems to be a relative burn out of the Axis mobile units, leaving both armies badly damaged by the fighting?

swkuh -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (no frogmarc please) (1/29/2014 11:09:14 AM)
KUDOS for mild winter option and for your reporting. You have an interesting game in progress. Not surprising that your tank counts are low; it should be expected whenever they're over-used.

STEF78 -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (no frogmarc please) (1/29/2014 8:30:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Disgruntled Veteran 700 Operational tanks and 0 armaments. GHC is going to have a rough start in 42. I'd keep my tank divisions off the front and on rails until early June. Let the infantry and motorized units do early spring operations. In fact the game is now early may 1942. I kept quiet and didn't attack during March. 700 tanks is very low but 1941's tanks are useless in 1943 My main concern is the low number of squad rifle available. I was under 25K end february.

STEF78 -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (no frogmarc please) (1/29/2014 8:31:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: loki100 thanks for putting this up. Further evidence that the mild blizzard really does give a far more fun experience and with the winter period often ending with German counterblows at least somewhere on the front. The price, as DV notes, seems to be a relative burn out of the Axis mobile units, leaving both armies badly damaged by the fighting? I confirm it's more fun. Next time I will give ground in the South and spare my mech units.

STEF78 -> It's spring again! (2/1/2014 11:57:17 AM)
Turn 47 7th May 1942 After these blizzard fights, we were both exhausted and the front line remained globally quiet until the end of the mud. I refited my PZ/Mot between Kalinin and Stalino ans gathered theme between Tula and Bielgorod just before the first turn of clear weather. Frogmarc heavily reinforced his lines around Moscow and from Tula to Voronezh. The approaches of Rostov were also deeply defended. I decided to use the 50MP of my mech units in order to hit the weakiest part of the front and to create my first 1942 Pocket On the map: mouvement des PZG => PZG moves Masses russes => russians masses/troops [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/180605471.jpg[/img] And a more detailed view [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/4453554447.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/1/2014 4:52:39 PM)
Turn 48, 15th may 1942 Mud. The OOB: I will try to maintain SHC Under 7M men [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/98424148oob.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/4/2014 10:02:36 PM)
Turn 49, 21th May 1942 2nd turn of clear weather. I continue to drive South [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/8822624349.jpg[/img] The Pocket isn't totally sealed but it will be hard to rescue them as the best part of russian army is north of Voronezh [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/648907491.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/5/2014 9:42:41 AM)
Turn 52, 11th June 1942 The situation in the South. Pockets are cleared. Next turn will be mud. Frogmarc is decided to defend the whole Don line. That's ok for me. I give him another reason to reinforce this sector as I crossed the Don with 2 Pz and 3 Inf. My other Pzg remain quiet and a whole Pzg is sent back and hidden in cities. [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/68743052en.jpg[/img] And the OOB, SHC declines due to the loss of the units in pockets. [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/71019652oob.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/5/2014 5:52:12 PM)
You have more informations than Frogmarc: Where will I attack?

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/7/2014 4:47:26 PM)
Turn 54, 25th June 1942 At the opening of this turn, I'm happy, russians units are where I want them to be!! [img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/886306541en.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/7/2014 4:53:32 PM)
And I strike. Inf Divs break the lines, Pz/Mot coming from Boguchar continues and the closests Pz/Mot end the task. The Pocket won't hold but the defence in this sector is broken. [img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/33023454pocket.jpg[/img] A general view of the central front [img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/47821754pocket1.jpg[/img]

loki100 -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/7/2014 10:58:30 PM)
you're doing well at generating a sequence of medium sized pockets, at the worst it must be stopping the Soviets from building up certainly makes me think that in the early summer of 1942 its not a good idea for the Soviets to leave their best units in the immediate front lines

STEF78 -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/7/2014 11:35:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: loki100 you're doing well at generating a sequence of medium sized pockets, at the worst it must be stopping the Soviets from building up certainly makes me think that in the early summer of 1942 its not a good idea for the Soviets to leave their best units in the immediate front lines I agree. On my opinion, Rifle corps should be used to press the german line not to defend. GHC as a high mobility which allows him to choose the weak point of the defence. SHC should also think as "german player". For example, in my game, Frogmarc moved a lot if units to defend the Don line. It was a mistake, it's too diificult to supply units far away in this area.

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/7/2014 11:45:04 PM)
Turn 55, 2th July 1942 SHC sends massive reinforcement to reopen the pocket and block my advance but I keep my momentum [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/9420396755.jpg[/img] Heavy fights! Losses are unsustainable on a long term [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/76799855air.jpg[/img] And the OOB, russians are just below 6.8M men [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/18394855oob.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/8/2014 10:40:22 PM)
Turn 56, 9th july 1942 Another turn of heavy fights. Pockets were reopened by frogmarc. I try the ecirclement of all russians units South of the Oka river [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/3089269756.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/10/2014 6:10:55 AM)
Turn 57, 16th july 1942 Frogmarc managed to reopen the main Pocket and isolate my spearheads... [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/1844621557.jpg[/img] ... but the southern units are now isolated: time to harvest [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/87580457loss.jpg[/img] Effect on the OOB is immediate [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/13368557oob.jpg[/img] And of course, I firmly close the northern Pocket [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/193260571.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/10/2014 10:24:13 PM)
Turn 58, 23th july 1942 Corridor reopened by Frogmarc! This time it will hold [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/8649896658.jpg[/img]

Wuffer -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/11/2014 6:26:05 AM)
a lot of juicy targets... IF he don't retreat you may grab the rest of his strong corps as well. very interesting situation, he might be in panic now of loosing Moscow.

STEF78 -> 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/11/2014 6:26:49 AM)
Turn 59, 30 juillet 1942 Pocket cleared! I ignore Moscow and drive east. My objective is the destruction of the red army and Moscow is a strong nut at the moment. [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/6863359359.jpg[/img] Russian OOB declines sharply due to the multiple encirclements [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/47007559oob.jpg[/img] But as I drive hard, my pools are very low! [img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/68037059pool.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/11/2014 6:29:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wuffer a lot of juicy targets... IF he don't retreat you may grab the rest of his strong corps as well. very interesting situation, he might be in panic now of loosing Moscow. He withdraws units west of Moscow to defend the Oka line As shown above, I prefer keeping my momentum instead of attacking frontally Moscow

Tarhunnas -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/11/2014 9:09:10 AM)
Great AAR! Thanks for sharing!

Wuffer -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/11/2014 10:11:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: STEF78 quote: ORIGINAL: Wuffer a lot of juicy targets... IF he don't retreat you may grab the rest of his strong corps as well. very interesting situation, he might be in panic now of loosing Moscow. He withdraws units west of Moscow to defend the Oka line As shown above, I prefer keeping my momentum instead of attacking frontally Moscow Yeah, I would have done the same, of course :-) Happy hunting! (btw, looking at the CVs getting 'all-in' is the only way... vorwarts, marsch-marsch :-) )

STEF78 -> RE: 2 frogs in mild blizzard (frogmarc welcome) (2/11/2014 8:33:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tarhunnas Great AAR! Thanks for sharing! Thanks!

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