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Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/4/2020 7:16:45 PM)
That "reserve" idea is interesting. So, if I set the low supply units at Clark to "reserve" during the retreat they will move faster?

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/4/2020 7:22:22 PM)
Yes. They will move at the "Move" rate I do believe but only if they do not engage in combat. Personally, at this stage of the game, I would not abandon Clark. Do anything that you can to get supplies to Bataan. Remember, CVEs full of fighters on CAP are not affected by being in a base. [;)]

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/4/2020 7:28:01 PM)
As for AAA, I did manage to get one dedicated AAA unit from Midway to Luzon some time ago but they are at Clark and half-disabled. I don't think anything big is likely to get through. They have recon and subs blocking the Bonins-Marianaras gap, plus Vals at Pagan. I tried getting some LCT's up between the Moluccas and Beazalbob.....no way..shut down by naval bombers.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/4/2020 7:40:34 PM)
Bataan is at 9500 to 10500 supply but then it has to trickle overland by trail to Clark. Bataan is mostly getting supplied by subs. I have no less that FIFTY subs involved plus more that are transitioning back to New Guinea for fuel. Say, on average 50 tons per sub load...so that's 2500 tons...but they have to back and forth to Palawan, load, unload, etc. I think that is about a 5 day round trip...so perhaps 500 tons a day. It's not enough with all the air raids and ground assaults at Clark. I have a few LCT's and LCM's at Taytay and one LST loading up in Mindanao but it is looking bad until we take Guam.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/4/2020 7:43:06 PM)
Using CVE's as a floating AF in Bataan Harbor is interesting but they would have to GET there first. If we win the carrier battle around Guam then we can shower Bataan with luxuries and cold beer.

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/4/2020 7:43:20 PM)
What about a massive airlift with 4E bombers carrying supplies? Even just one turn? Are you making plans to punch a way for your relief TFs to go to Luzon? Clark is a nice place for Strategic bombing of the Home Islands.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/4/2020 9:55:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe What about a massive airlift with 4E bombers carrying supplies? Even just one turn? Are you making plans to punch a way for your relief TFs to go to Luzon? Clark is a nice place for Strategic bombing of the Home Islands. The airlift thing with B-24's is a good idea. I could stage maybe 70 B-24's at Cagayan and send them to Clark in a mass resupply raid. I wonder how much supply a B-24 can carry at 13 hexes? If I could open the AF at Clark again then the emergency would be not over but delayed. Clark AF is now undamaged again.

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/4/2020 10:32:11 PM)
Check the load. Any fraction of 2,000 is still a unit of supplies if I remember correctly. I would have to look at the manual.

Alfred -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/4/2020 10:33:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake I'm asking for a friend. The pandemic has necessitated downsizing by eliminating all middle management and co-[:)]opting a "friend" to do their work on a voluntary basis?[:)] 1. TFs load/unload early in the Night Phase. All dependent on having OPs available to undertake the load/unload. 2. Aircraft transport 1 supply point per 2000lb load capacity (rounded down). Therefore an aircraft with a load capacity of 6600lb will transport 3 supply points. Alfred

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/4/2020 10:59:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake I'm asking for a friend. The pandemic has necessitated downsizing by eliminating all middle management and co-[:)]opting a "friend" to do their work on a voluntary basis?[:)] 1. TFs load/unload early in the Night Phase. All dependent on having OPs available to undertake the load/unload. 2. Aircraft transport 1 supply point per 2000lb load capacity (rounded down). Therefore an aircraft with a load capacity of 6600lb will transport 3 supply points. Alfred There you have it! The entrails have been spread and die has been cast! The oracle of the Matrix has spoken. 1) Indeed, the trick to a night TF amphibious unload is to be very close the unload point at the start of the night phase to preserve op points. This makes sense because that is what "op points" are simulating..time to do some task. 2) B-24D/D1 ..8000 lbs payload so that is 4 supply point per aircraft. If you assume a full payload (which may not be true at Davao which is still level 6)...70 bombers can deliver 280 supply points in one day (assuming no losses) I don't think that can work. It will be like Goering at Stalingrad..with General Paulus and his men down to 800 calories a day. Plus, you can't expect 72 AF service pts at Davao to keep 70 B-24's running.

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/5/2020 2:34:52 PM)
If a unit gets even one supply point, it should fight fairly well. The objective is to keep the Japanese away from Bataan for as long as is possible and the overall objective is to tie up as many units as is possible. The more you do that and for the longest period of time, the easier, relatively speaking, it is to march towards Luzon. The closer you get, the more supplies you can send to Luzon. But attack different places so you don't have too narrow of an attack corridor. One air support squad per aircraft. Plus, if the B-24s can fly that far with a decent load and if you have the pattern and timing for the attacks, the B-24s can also drop bombs on the enemy the turn that the Japanese attack.

Chickenboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 2:14:32 AM)
Oi! Cap! Pretend I haven't been on the forum for 3 months or so. How would you efficiently summarize the last 90 days of WWII(d)?

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 2:00:38 PM)
Yes, micro summary Vietnam: JJ sent 6 divisions from China and crushed the Chinese east of Hanoi and then marched on Vinh and kicked out the Commonwealth force so we fell back to the Mekong in Laos Burma: Big buildup at Mergui. Starting to cross the Kra Peninsula Sumatra: JJ sent three divisions to Sumatra and pushed back the Aussies at Padang. Lots of casualties but the bulk evacuate offshore to the islands. New landing at Sabang pending. New Guinea: Allies won the battle of Biak after losing two CL's but destroying many Japanese bombers and a Raiding Regt. Moving on Manokwari soon. Pacific: Building up for the big attack to relieve Luzon Luzon: Situation critical at Clark. Even some of the infatry out of supply

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 3:40:45 PM)
Well, if the infattry are out of supply, then they will be less fat. [;)]

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 4:32:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Well, if the infattry are out of supply, then they will be less fat. [;)] I typed "infanntry" fist and tried to fix it. [:)]

dcpollay -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 4:53:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Well, if the infattry are out of supply, then they will be less fat. [;)] I typed "infanntry" fist and tried to fix it. [:)] While we're on the subject of grammar, I hope this is not a verb.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:06:24 PM)
80 operational B-24D/D1, Liberator II and B-17 at Cagayan on Mindanao to drop supplies at Clark. C-47's at Cebu and Butuan on Mindanao. They are a lot more fragile of course.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:10:25 PM)
back to the 10th *****************May 10, 1943(e)*********** quote: Luzon: Bataan AF is closed. Damaged planes trapped on the ground. quote: Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 7 Ki-21-IIb Sally x 28 Ki-49-IIa Helen x 44 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIb Sally: 6 damaged Ki-21-IIb Sally: 1 destroyed by flak Ki-49-IIa Helen: 5 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40K Warhawk: 1 damaged P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 7

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:11:12 PM)
quote: Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-IIb Sally x 13 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 28 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIb Sally: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40K Warhawk: 3 damaged F4U-1 Corsair: 4 damaged Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:13:38 PM)
quote: Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-IIa Sally x 6 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 19 Ki-61-Ia Tony x 1 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet * Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 15 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 19 Ki-51 Sonia x 18 Ki-61-Ia Tony x 1 No Japanese losses Runway hits 1

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:14:40 PM)
quote: Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 1998 troops, 155 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 670 Defending force 33104 troops, 552 guns, 306 vehicles, Assault Value = 739 Allied ground losses: 31 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled) Assaulting units: 10th Division 16th Division 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Art.Mortar Regiment 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 762nd Tank Battalion 31st PA Infantry Division 31st Infantry Regiment 57th PS Infantry Regiment 2nd Constabulary Regiment 21st PA Infantry Division 45th PS Infantry Regiment 51st PA Infantry Division 4th Marine Regiment 91st PA Infantry Division 54th British Brigade 2nd PA Infantry Regiment 4th Constabulary Regiment 1st USMC AA Battalion !/23rd PS FA Battalion 501st Coast AA Regiment 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion II/Prov'nl SPM Grp 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion Clark Field AAF Base Force III/Prov'nl SPM Grp 24th PS FA Regiment 103rd PA Infantry Regiment 165th Field Artillery Battalion 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment I/Prov'nl SPM Grp 301st PA Field Artillery Regiment

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:16:10 PM)
4th Marine Regt and 103rd PA Regt are wrecked completely

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:20:37 PM)
***************May 11, 1943(e)*********** PI:** Damn, didn't see these guys coming. quote: Night Time Surface Combat, near Taytay at 75,82, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Kirishima DD Shimakaze DD Tamanami DD Kiyonami DD Kikuzuki DD Mikazuki Allied Ships LCT-131, Shell hits 4, and is sunk LCM 592B, Shell hits 2, and is sunk LCM 592E, Shell hits 2, and is sunk AM Rockhampton, Shell hits 1, and is sunk And they keep going to PP quote: Night Time Surface Combat, near Puerto Princesa at 73,83, Range 10,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Kirishima DD Shimakaze DD Tamanami DD Kiyonami DD Kikuzuki DD Mikazuki Allied Ships xAKL City of Fort Worth, Shell hits 13, and is sunk

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:21:58 PM)
One lone Corsair from Taytay covering the AK unloading at Bataan quote: Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 24,560 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 8 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 22 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 1 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 22 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 22560 feet

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:24:17 PM)
Hard to repair if they keep bombing the damn thing every day. Even so, the AK unloading is not hit. This is very good. And the damage to the AF is not that great.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:25:00 PM)
I will have to review the plane losses for the day to see how the heavy bombers and C-47's did over Clark.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:27:12 PM)
Ground bombardment. We do take out some LYB guns. This suggest the arty got some ammo by air. Our losses are high. Maybe it's the retreat movement. quote: Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 2022 troops, 156 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 1452 Defending force 32931 troops, 543 guns, 301 vehicles, Assault Value = 724 Japanese ground losses: Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled) Allied ground losses: 170 casualties reported Squads: 7 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 10th Division 16th Division 28th Division 2nd Division 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Art.Mortar Regiment 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 31st PA Infantry Division 4th Marine Regiment 57th PS Infantry Regiment 2nd PA Infantry Regiment 31st Infantry Regiment 45th PS Infantry Regiment 91st PA Infantry Division 51st PA Infantry Division 762nd Tank Battalion 21st PA Infantry Division 54th British Brigade 2nd Constabulary Regiment 4th Constabulary Regiment 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 1st USMC AA Battalion 103rd PA Infantry Regiment !/23rd PS FA Battalion Clark Field AAF Base Force 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment I/Prov'nl SPM Grp 165th Field Artillery Battalion 24th PS FA Regiment 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion II/Prov'nl SPM Grp III/Prov'nl SPM Grp 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment 501st Coast AA Regiment 301st PA Field Artillery Regiment

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:30:29 PM)
New Guinea: Large fighter seep over Noemfor (west of Biak) where we are starting to build a base quote: Morning Air attack on Noemfoor , at 86,110 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 22,560 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 37 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 5:32:39 PM)
Sumatra: I tried to fly in some AAA guns to Benkolen. Didn't do much good. quote: Morning Air attack on 111th LRP Brigade, at 45,91 (Benkoelen) Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-48-IIa Lily x 3 Ki-49-IIa Helen x 28 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 92 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Later, 3rd Raiding Rgt retakes the base

Chickenboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (10/6/2020 6:13:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake 80 operational B-24D/D1, Liberator II and B-17 at Cagayan on Mindanao to drop supplies at Clark. C-47's at Cebu and Butuan on Mindanao. They are a lot more fragile of course. While that may help stem the hemorrhage of supplies from Clark, are there any JJ airfields within range that could benefit from a visit of 80 B-24D/D1s? It may help take some of the pressure off of Bataan CAP.

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