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Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 6:16:29 PM)

Also, I hate to pick on the FAA but the Skua was pretty damned ugly too. [:D]

[image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Blackburn_Skua_L2923.png[/image]



Simonsez -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 6:22:44 PM)

Nothing says aerodynamic efficiency more than a vertical face to the canopy leading edge.....[8|]



Lecivius -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 6:24:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sprior


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Not even clsoe to being the most unattractive carrier aircraft.




Competition time!


Can I play?


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Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 6:37:02 PM)

Wow. What is that, the Sea Stegasaur?



Simonsez -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 6:38:13 PM)

Thanks for your vote! (see page 8)



Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 6:42:14 PM)

In fairness, the TBD and Brewster were inept looking as well...but it was more the hint of combat ineffectiveness rather than ugliness.



Lecivius -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 6:42:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Wow. What is that, the Sea Stegasur?


I believe it is a Blackburn R-1.


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BBfanboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 10:09:33 PM)

Let's not leave the USN out of the contest - I submit an alien-inspired design:



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Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 10:28:13 PM)

Yes, the A-6 definitely had an organic (from Alpah-Centauri) look to it. The huge radar dictated the nose design.



rtrapasso -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 10:39:23 PM)

This thing had a top speed of 156 mph - and was actually used against the Japanese (but not by the USN)

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rtrapasso -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 10:53:12 PM)

Then there's this "beauty"....

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BBfanboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 10:56:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Then there's this "beauty"....

[image]local://upfiles/7543/AD8E886A3BC148A495E26FEF71FF1C03.jpg[/image]

[:D] What were the pilot's instructions in the event the torpedo failed to drop - ditch or kamikaze? [sm=00000116.gif]

EDIT: PS - how did it take off?!



rtrapasso -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 10:59:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Then there's this "beauty"....

[image]local://upfiles/7543/AD8E886A3BC148A495E26FEF71FF1C03.jpg[/image]

[:D] What were the pilot's instructions in the event the torpedo failed to drop - ditch or kamikaze? [sm=00000116.gif]

EDIT: PS - how did it take off?!

[:D] [:D]

i think it is actually supposed to be in the process of dropping the torpedo... but if it will get a vote, i'll say that it is still attached and that the launching process involved balloons. [:'(]



Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 11:18:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Then there's this "beauty"....

[image]local://upfiles/7543/AD8E886A3BC148A495E26FEF71FF1C03.jpg[/image]



This looks like the protoype for the Blackburn before the designer had his psychotic break. None of the Japanese designs look anywhere near this bad. Unfortunately for the British, the French had no aircraft carrier at the time or they might have given them a run.

Some designs are just so aestheically perfect (Seafire) or so macho (Bearcat and Corsair and Sea Fury) that crappy designs look even worse.



Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/28/2015 11:55:13 PM)

8 BB
1 BC
2 CA

at Sorong. [:D]

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rtrapasso -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/29/2015 12:27:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

8 BB
1 BC
2 CA

at Sorong. [:D]





So, as they leave, would the IJN sailors say "Sorong, Sorong"* [&:]

*(in Mandrakian Nipponese)



rtrapasso -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/29/2015 12:44:29 AM)

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French had no aircraft carrier at the time or they might have given them a run.


Well, they had one (the Bearn, with accent acute over the e)... they did have at least one carrier-based aircraft design (divebomber) which wasn't bad looking (except for the tail).



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Chickenboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/29/2015 2:31:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
Well, they had one (the Bearn, with accent acute over the e)


[Kaff Kaff] Stuka [Kaff Kaff]



BBfanboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/29/2015 4:41:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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French had no aircraft carrier at the time or they might have given them a run.


Well, they had one (the Bearn, with accent acute over the e)... they did have at least one carrier-based aircraft design (divebomber) which wasn't bad looking (except for the tail).



[image]local://upfiles/7543/A82CC41DF74346888C66F6DE251742A3.jpg[/image]

Tail designed by committee - everyone gets a piece of the action!

PS - if you want an é, just hold down the ALT key and type 130 - when you release the ALT key ... voilą
Windows used to provide a character map [chart with the ALT-number codes] for all the foreign, scientific, mathematic and special characters, but the map is different for different fonts so I guess they gave up on it!



BBfanboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/29/2015 4:45:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
Well, they had one (the Bearn, with accent acute over the e)


[Kaff Kaff] Stuka [Kaff Kaff]

Hey! If the Japanese can crib the Stuka design for their Val, who can blame the French!
At least they seem to have designed retractable landing gear, and made sure everyone knew French tail is more elaborate than any other!



Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/29/2015 5:27:49 PM)

It does look like a Stuka with a better canopy..except for the tail.

My guess is the tail was designed to slow the thing in a dive..the problem is it would follow you around the whole time you were in the air.



Chijohnaok2 -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/29/2015 9:37:29 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

quote:

French had no aircraft carrier at the time or they might have given them a run.


Well, they had one (the Bearn, with accent acute over the e)... they did have at least one carrier-based aircraft design (divebomber) which wasn't bad looking (except for the tail).



[image]local://upfiles/7543/A82CC41DF74346888C66F6DE251742A3.jpg[/image]


This sort of looks as if someone took a Corsair
[image]http://www.spitcrazy.com/corsair.jpg[/image]

and slapped the tail of a P-38
[image]http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/aviation/31537d1299767128t-fork-tailed-devil-history-38-a-p38_lightning.jpg[/image]

onto it.



uncivil_servant -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/30/2015 12:17:05 PM)

I humbly submit...

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uncivil_servant -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/30/2015 12:18:00 PM)

and the French fighters to hold of the BF-109s...

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Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/30/2015 12:26:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: uncivil_servant

I humbly submit...

[image]local://upfiles/44116/19FE12333BD344738780E9DAB84D1AA2.jpg[/image]


This thing flew from a carrier?

I think the engine technology dictated things to some degree. It looks like an in-line engine with a big-ass radiator, which partly accounts for the sunfish design. Of course, with a little more creativity one needn't put the radiator UNDERNEATH the engine. Still, the designer seems to have had some notion of aerodynamic effects.



Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/30/2015 12:30:00 PM)

***********Christmas Day, Wake Is**********

Maj. Devereux:..OK men, the transports are here. Let's postpone the gift exchange until we are
on board. Now, as we work, how about some carols? Oh Little Town of Bethlehem?



Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/30/2015 12:38:08 PM)

Pvt Kowalksi: The Major is so inspirational. I've never heard a more beautiful version of Silent Night.
I'd give him a 90 for inspiration.

Pvt. Sanchez: 90, you crazy? Nobody gets a ninety. Name one.

Pvt Kowalksi: Ummm...Admiral Theobald?

Pvt. Sanchez: That's his IQ

Pvt Kowalksi: Ummm...well, how about that Count guy? von Czernin or something. Polish I think.

Pvt. Sanchez: Never heard of him but that is NOT a Polish name.

Pvt. Kowalski: It could be.

Pvt. Sanchez: Look, Kowalski, he's not Polish and he doesn't have an inspirational rating of 90 because nobody does. I don't care if he can tap dance andsing like Enrico Caruso....



Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/31/2015 4:55:24 PM)

***********Christmas Day mass, 21:30, airfield, Rabaul***********

Father Emmanoulides: <trying to lead group in song> Siii-eeeeh-lent night....siii-eeeeh-lent night...come on everyone...zzzzuuuuuUUUUUUUUHHHHHH
<screeching sound of an inbound round> SWEET BABY JESUS AND THE VIRGIN MARY! EVERYONE TAKE COVER!



Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/31/2015 5:01:51 PM)

Rabaul: I blame the staff...and the air recon guys...and the skipper of HMAS Australia who decided to go study the migration of the New and Improved Britain Leatherback Turtle, a large number of which where reported in the channel south of New and Improved Britain.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Rabaul at 106,125, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CL Tama
CL Kiso
CL Oi
DD Oboro
DD Fuyo
DD Karukaya

Allied Ships
PC Swan, Shell hits 26, and is sunk
PG Moresby, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
xAP Sarpedonia, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Macdhui, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
1166 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 35 (27 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Crap...that was most off the RAMF and heavy weapons of the 39th and 53rd Aus Bn.



Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (1/31/2015 5:02:59 PM)

What's that noise? Oh, sure, NOW you show up.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Rabaul at 106,125, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CL Tama
CL Kiso
CL Oi
DD Oboro
DD Fuyo
DD Karukaya

Allied Ships
DD Patterson, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk



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