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Hongjian -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/17/2016 7:38:02 PM)

In other news; the J-20 production is continuing: Now, sporting a new camo-paint. The exact number of LRIP birds is unknown now, but assumed to be around seven to ten.

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Hongjian -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/17/2016 11:07:00 PM)

Looks like the EA-03 "Soaring Dragon" HALE UAV has reached LRIP stage as well.

Four EA-03s sighted at Guizhou Aircraft Company. And only now, we can see how big these strange box-wing UAVs actually are!

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General information about this UAV from the Chinese Military Aviation Blog:

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Besides Wing Loong, another long-range semi-stealth UAV called EA-03 has been developed by 611 Institute and GAAC. This large UAV features a box/diamond wing design to increase lift while reducing drag and weight. EA-03 reportedly weighs 7,500kg and has a range of 7,000km, a cruising speed of 750km/hr and a cruising altitude of 18,000m. A technology demonstrator called Soaring Dragon was first built at CAC for ground testing in 2011. Subsequently it underwent substantial redesign based on the issues revealed during the tests. The new redesigned EA-03 appears to feature several major changes. It has a smaller length and wingspan. It also has twin vertical slanted tailfins extending outwards plus twin ventral stabilizing fins. This gives the UAV a lower profile than its predecessor. Similar to BZK-009, it has a head bulge housing a SATCOM antenna, as well as a dorsal air intake. The engine was speculated to be AI-222-25 turbofan initially on the prototypes and later the new Mingshan (WS-17?) without A/B developed by the 649 Institute. Several dark fairings can be seen on the lower part of the fuselage which could house FLIR or CCD cameras as well as an SAR antenna. The UAV is expected to fly long-range recon and EW missions. It was rumored that a EA-03 prototype was built by mid-2012 and first flight took place in late 2012 at the GAAC airfield. Currently the UAV is in initial production at GAAC and is ready to enter the service with PLAN as a HALE ELINT UAV.

http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/uavucav-ii.html




jtoatoktoe -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/19/2016 10:33:41 PM)

Scorpion does some weapons testing.
http://www.scorpionjet.com/scorpion-jet-successfully-completes-first-weapons-capability-exercise/

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Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/20/2016 1:40:00 PM)

The unmanned submersible watercraft, named Guardian, is announced by JMS, as the diving version of Ghost. It will becomes the anti-sub platform with much faster performance:

http://newatlas.com/jms-guardian-usv/46016/

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Ghost marine platform takes a dive with unmanned submersible Guardian

A few years ago, Juliet Marine Systems (JMS) unveiled the Ghost, an angular boat that could actively reduce drag in the water by creating a bubble of gas around its two foils. Now the company has announced plans for the Guardian, a submersible version of the craft designed for both manned and unmanned military operations, on or below the surface.

Like its predecessor, the Guardian's active drag reduction system is based on the principle of supercavitation, where friction is lessened by the craft creating a bubble of air around itself. That in turn allows it a better top speed without using more fuel, and JMS says that at it's fastest – which is when it's traveling on the surface with four feet (1.2 m) between the waterline and the keel – the Guardian can hit 35 knots (65 km/h, 40 mph).

There's no word on its top speed when the craft is fully submerged, or how well the supercavitation works then, but JMS believes the option opens up more possibilities for the Guardian than the Ghost, aided by the fact that it can operate without the three-person crew of the previous model.

"We believe Guardian is the first surface vessel that is a fully submersible Unmanned Surface Vehicle (USV) and one that will meet or exceed the USV mission needs of navies around the world at relatively low cost," says Gregory Sancoff, President and CEO of JMS. "We expect it to transform the way navies fulfill their operational requirements in maritime technology and provide greater capacity in littoral operations, with a host of multi-mission capabilities encompassing intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR); mine hunting; and anti-swarm, short-range firepower. There is no other platform like this in the world."

Measuring between 30 and 45 ft (9.1 and 13.7 m) long, the Guardian will run on a diesel powertrain with a hybrid electric drive. While none have been produced so far, JMS estimates construction would take between 18 and 24 months, and the craft will be standardized for easy maintenance and can be customized according to the needs of the customer.





FoxZz -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/20/2016 6:15:03 PM)

I did not see the news yet so here it is :

DCNS is unveiling the new 4000t FTI Belh@rra frigate meant to replace the French navy La Fayette class light frigates in 2023.

It will be fitted with the new Thales Sea Fire 500 radar, a flat panel AESA radar, as well as the new compact Captas 4 TASS, the Kingclip MkII (or UMS 4110 not sure yet) hull sonar, torpedo launchers, 16 A50 Sylvers, 8 Exocet B3 missiles and an Oto-Melera 76mm arty piece. It will be able to host 1 NH90 Helicopter or 1 Panther and 1 drone.. It's auntonmy is given for 5000nm at 15 knots.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/naval-exhibitions/euronaval-2016/4483-exclusive-video-interview-dcns-belh-rra-front-line-digital-frigate.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf8DQIpa_Xc

On the Sea Fire radar : http://www.air-cosmos.com/euronaval-2016-sea-fire-le-radar-des-fti-84195 (it's in French, but google translate works pretty well).
500km against ballistic missiles
80km against surface targets
Will will work in the S band and will be able to track more than 800 targets in the same time with a high refreshing rate.

Would be cool if it could be added to to the DB. (radar and frigate).




tjhkkr -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/20/2016 11:44:21 PM)

https://www.cnet.com/pictures/americas-fighting-ships-from-smallest-to-largest

Neat set of pictures, even if it is 'click bait'.




kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 2:42:56 AM)

So today in the news we read about a Russian carrier group ready to sail through the English Channel and the Philippines aligning with China and Russia. Their leader proudly announced the US "lost" and mentioned negotiations re: the South China Sea. With the 75th of Pearl just weeks away it makes one wonder if the clock has been reset and ticking again.




chrisol -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 8:50:06 AM)

A picture for you ! (of the above...)


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Broncepulido -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 4:23:43 PM)

F-35A attacking North Korea nuke plant .... on simulator:
http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/a-civilian-pilot-test-drives-the-f-35/Content?oid=3755003




Broncepulido -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 4:26:30 PM)

F-35A planned to be deployed in 6 planes mini-detachments:
http://www.businessinsider.com/f35-mini-deployments-a10-navy-seals-2016-10




Jagdtiger14 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 6:35:37 PM)

The Admiral Kuznetsov belches as much smoke as a WWI battleship!




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 6:38:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

The Admiral Kuznetsov belches as much smoke as a WWI battleship!

You cannot expect green energy with steam turbine and HFO.




Jagdtiger14 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 6:52:15 PM)

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Philippines aligning with China and Russia. Their leader proudly announced the US "lost" and mentioned negotiations re: the South China Sea.


Frankly, I don't blame the Philippines. The Pacific/western alliance is weak and without leadership. China is the aggressor in the South China sea where the Philippines has tenuous claims to certain islands such as some of the Sprats. Aligning with China/Russia would allow them to not only hold on to those claims, but develop them including any oil/gas reserves that might exist...and getting Chinese money to do so.




mikmykWS -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 6:52:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dysta


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

The Admiral Kuznetsov belches as much smoke as a WWI battleship!

You cannot expect green energy with steam turbine and HFO.


Why are you still here? Can somebody get rid of this annoying troll already.

Mike




Jagdtiger14 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 6:53:19 PM)

quote:

Why are you still here? Can somebody get rid of this annoying troll already. Mike





Really? And why am I a "troll"?




mikmykWS -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 6:58:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

quote:

Why are you still here? Can somebody get rid of this annoying troll already. Mike





Really? And why am I a "troll"?


I was responding to Dysta and his never ending line of meaningless posts.

MIke




thewood1 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 7:06:58 PM)

He is better than he used to be...but its relative.




thewood1 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 7:13:35 PM)

Frankly, I rarely come to this thread anymore. There are some good posts, but every time someone in China/Russia puts out a propaganda PR, I have to wade though 10 posts with pictures of models or pictures fuzzy as to be useless. Unlike the US and other countries, there is no civilian oversight over claims or transparent budget process to at least get some insight into reality.

This thread needs some cleanup.




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 7:58:53 PM)

Mike, you're better than this too. I already don't want to wage political and wild-mass-guess debates as you told me I am a troll, and you got what you want already.

And now a small response about smoking Kuznetsov and you give me another response, irreverently?

I don't like sub-correctness either, but demanding a victim is the least I could expect here.




thewood1 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 8:16:52 PM)

I think you are missing the point. I don't know if its language, culture, or something personal, but don't get involved in stuff where you are adding little value to the conversation. We all know you have opinions, but expressing a an opinion that adds nothing to the conversation just clouds issues and answers.

Take a break from posting on the forum for a bit. I would like to say you seem smart, but you come off as speaking about things you seem to know little about. As I am reminded every day at work, listen a lot more than you talk. It makes you seem smarter and sincere. Try it.




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 8:22:14 PM)

Thank you, wood. To be honest, it's a grand mistake to piss you off long ago.

I am extremely languish to struggle with confrontations in any forms, if truly, whatever I said are trolling, sorry.




mikmykWS -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 8:35:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dysta

Mike, you're better than this too. I already don't want to wage political and wild-mass-guess debates as you told me I am a troll, and you got what you want already.

And now a small response about smoking Kuznetsov and you give me another response, irreverently?

I don't like sub-correctness either, but demanding a victim is the least I could expect here.


You're missing the point. You're the one posting the political nationalistic crap every time somebody post something even remotely positive about one country or negative about another. Its like you wait to be offended and come back with some comment that just makes people never want to read the forum again. Stop already. If you really need to do that there are forums specifically for it. This site is not one of them.

On Kusnetsov. It is smoking! There's a clear picture of it. I'm sure your buddies on the goofball bbs will post a blurry arse version with a rainbow and flock of unicorns over it instead as proof positive of its magical powers. I'll look forward to that post.

Haaarumph!

Mike




thewood1 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 8:38:34 PM)

Unicorns shouldn't be in the database until 2019.




stilesw -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 9:31:24 PM)

Preview captured by Wikileaks:

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kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 10:09:26 PM)

That's very frightening. Only Seals could take on those gaudy beasts.




Triode -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/21/2016 10:55:04 PM)

News ahead of headline

30.10.2016 there is "Russian Navy - 320 years" anniversary

so, there is a plan to lay the first corvette project 20386 on "Severnaya Verf"

in case, that somebody forgot what is 20386
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3500 t
1x1 190mm A-190 gun
2x AK-630M
2x8 Redut VLS
2x4 Paket-NK
2x4 Uran Launcher
MGK-335EM-03 + Vinietka-M
radars - RLK "Zaslon" (X and S band + Zaslon ELINT station) and navigation MR-231-3
4x KT-218 launchers
optical electonic system "Sfera-05"
hangar - two helicopter or one helicopter and mission containers ( container with Kalibr missiles, "Maevka" anti mine UUVs contaners , etc) also small hangar for UAVs in superstructure:
[image]http://www.oborona.ru/dyn_images/img16055.jpg[/image]
engine - CODLOG with M90FR :
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Mgellis -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/22/2016 2:37:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thewood1

Unicorns shouldn't be in the database until 2019.


Be careful what you wish for. [:)]



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thewood1 -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/22/2016 2:52:50 AM)

I heard Chinese unicorns (derived from imported Russian unicorns) were hypersonic.




kevinkins -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/22/2016 3:29:26 AM)

Oh my.

Hey, before I forget, has anyone every done a Halloween scenario? Ten days and counting ya know. Devilish lua scripts, teleported stuff out of the ether, etc. Instead of LIVE, we call it .... DE..

<clearly over the limit, kevin ducks flying glass and runs out of the bar>




Dysta -> RE: Naval and Defense News (10/22/2016 4:14:14 AM)

-del-




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