RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls

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ny59giants -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/18/2015 5:36:32 PM)
Avoid Lord Howe Island - I'm not sure, but the 'country code' may be for Australia and since its below Brisbane, you 'may' trigger emergency reinforcements.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/19/2015 2:45:32 PM)
I won't take a chance on Lord Howe then.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/19/2015 2:51:33 PM)
March 22nd, 1942 The first attack on Manila went much better than I expected. I'll stay and take the city. Ground combat at Manila (79,77) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 77169 troops, 736 guns, 344 vehicles, Assault Value = 2021 Defending force 63443 troops, 442 guns, 170 vehicles, Assault Value = 1582 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2 Japanese adjusted assault: 1171 Allied adjusted defense: 1149 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-) experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 5259 casualties reported Squads: 45 destroyed, 387 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 63 disabled Engineers: 11 destroyed, 52 disabled Guns lost 37 (1 destroyed, 36 disabled) Vehicles lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1184 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 131 disabled Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 79 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled Guns lost 41 (1 destroyed, 40 disabled) Vehicles lost 21 (2 destroyed, 19 disabled) Assaulting units: 65th Brigade 4th Division 5th Division 16th Division 21st Ind Engineer Regiment 48th Division 2nd Division 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 14th Army 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 21st PA Infantry Division 1st PA Infantry Division 51st PA Infantry Division 1st Constabulary Regiment 41st PA Infantry Division 194th Tank Battalion 26th PS Cavalry Regiment 24th Avn Sup 192nd Tank Battalion 71st PA Infantry Division 35th Avn Sup 91st PA Infantry Division 11th PA Infantry Division 4th Marine Regiment 31st PA Infantry Division I/43rd PS Inf Battalion 57th PS Infantry Regiment 2nd Constabulary Regiment US Forces Far East 11th PAAC Avn Sup 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment II Corps Nichols Field AAF Base Force 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion 24th PS FA Regiment 4th PAAC Avn Sup Far East USAAF Cavite USN Base Force !/23rd PS FA Battalion Clark Field AAF Base Force 27th Avn Sup 1st USMC AA Battalion Asiatic Fleet I/Prov'nl SPM Grp Central/Southern China I have decided to shift the bulk of the 13th Army to the Center. At Changsha, I actually might have enough juice to take the city. Bombardment revealed that I have 2500 AV to his 1500 AV, not including forts. Tempting. However, I'm going to see if I can take the city without a fight by moving the 11th Army (minus 1 division on Changsha) south and attempt a river crossing behind Changsha. I'm guessing he will be forced to pull out of the city. At Nanning, I'm resting one more day and then have confidence I'll take the city. SoPac Norfolk fell to the Naval Guards. KB is going back to Truk and LBA can take over for Suva. Lesson learned. Have an exact goal for the KB at all times. It's too expensive in terms of fuel to simply run it around. It helped in SoPac, but wasn't really needed.

ny59giants -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/19/2015 3:31:58 PM)
quote: At Changsha, I actually might have enough juice to take the city. Bombardment revealed that I have 2500 AV to his 1500 AV, not including forts. Tempting. However, I'm going to see if I can take the city without a fight by moving the 11th Army (minus 1 division on Changsha) south and attempt a river crossing behind Changsha. I'm guessing he will be forced to pull out of the city. Force him to stay and lose all those troops by maneuvering around it and taking control of hexsides (it helps when you post screen shots to hit 'F6' key to remove hexsides and then 'W' to show hexside control). The key IMO will be capture of the hex due NW of Changsha on trail to Changteh and then having a small LCU cross over into Changsha to have hexside control shift to you and prevent a retreat to safety. Right now, hit the AF at Changsha with your bombers to prevent two things - fort building and destroying supplies to below 2x level so his troops cannot take in replacement infantry. For me, I would prep my China Command HQ for Changsha. At Wenchow, I would work LCUs in and out (if you have a division, divide into 1/3 and use one to go into jungle and then into base to gain control of a hexside) of base to gain control of ALL hexsides so he cannot retreat out of the hex. [image]local://upfiles/15133/EBD9BDCCA5874C31A3D172442977932F.jpg[/image]

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/19/2015 4:27:09 PM)
March 21st, 1942 Not really much to report except one of the weirdest set of sub battles I've seen. First, around Geralton. My sub commander is getting a medal for this. Since they don't have sonar yet, how did this happen? Did they see each other, come to surface to hurl insults at each other and then my commander pulled a fast one and fired? AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 22, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub vs Sub: SS I-8 attacking SS S-39 at 47,134 - near Carnarvon Japanese Ships SS I-8 Allied Ships SS S-39, heavy damage SS I-8 launches 2 torpedoes at 3,000 yards Then At Adak, this guy comes into the harbor and thinks about it and goes naaa. ASW attack near Adak Island at 162,52 Japanese Ships AO Naruto AO Hayamoto PB Chitose Maru #2 Allied Ships SS S-43 Then comes in again and goes naaaa ASW attack near Adak Island at 162,52 Japanese Ships PB Zosen Maru PB Takunan Maru Allied Ships SS S-43 SS S-43 is located by PB Zosen Maru And a third time ASW attack near Adak Island at 162,52 Japanese Ships AO Naruto AO Hayamoto PB Chitose Maru #2 Allied Ships SS S-43 And because 4th time is a charm ASW attack near Adak Island at 162,52 Japanese Ships AO Naruto AO Hayamoto PB Chitose Maru #2 Allied Ships SS S-43, hits 3 And this guy is going to get the "I've done nothing all war, I'm going to do something dammit" award of the war, because 2 torps in an AKL isn't enough Submarine attack near Ta'u at 152,159 Japanese Ships SS I-168, hits 1 Allied Ships xAKL Hamakua, Shell hits 24, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Hamakua is sighted by SS I-168 SS I-168 attacking on the surface SS I-168 low on gun ammo, Kanno A. breaks off surface engagement and submerges

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/19/2015 7:29:12 PM)
March 22nd, 1942 I guess my sub force is getting ichy for actual targets. This guy sinks 2 fish into an AKL Submarine attack near Newcastle at 93,168 Japanese Ships SS I-1 Allied Ships xAKL Wollongbar, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Wollongbar is sighted by SS I-1 SS I-1 attacking xAKL Wollongbar on the surface and because that's not enough Submarine attack near Newcastle at 93,168 Japanese Ships SS I-1 Allied Ships xAKL Wollongbar, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Wollongbar is sighted by SS I-1 SS I-1 attacking xAKL Wollongbar on the surface Southern China Nanning fell easily Ground combat at Nanning (72,55) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 25700 troops, 300 guns, 414 vehicles, Assault Value = 772 Defending force 16743 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 246 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Japanese adjusted assault: 1193 Allied adjusted defense: 105 Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Nanning !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 326 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled) Allied ground losses: 6890 casualties reported Squads: 166 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 263 destroyed, 23 disabled Engineers: 35 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 16 (14 destroyed, 2 disabled) Units retreated 3 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 1st Tank Regiment 8th Tank Regiment 18th Division 4th Tank Regiment 19th Ind Engineer Regiment 20th Ind Engineer Regiment 15th Ind Engineer Regiment 23rd Ind Engineer Regiment 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade 6th Tank Regiment 25th Army 1st RF Gun Battalion 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Mortar Battalion 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 52nd Chinese Corps 64th Chinese Corps 35th Group Army Luzon Manila will fall shortly Ground combat at Manila (79,77) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 68103 troops, 703 guns, 343 vehicles, Assault Value = 1708 Defending force 61150 troops, 436 guns, 167 vehicles, Assault Value = 1407 Japanese adjusted assault: 604 Allied adjusted defense: 1037 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 2222 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 326 disabled Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 48 disabled Engineers: 30 destroyed, 42 disabled Vehicles lost 11 (4 destroyed, 7 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1707 casualties reported Squads: 16 destroyed, 76 disabled Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 88 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Guns lost 31 (21 destroyed, 10 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Other Places Daily bombardments of Wenchow, Manila and Suva. The KB shut down Suva airfield and is now in transit to Truk. Transports are coming together for N. OZ.

KenchiSulla -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/19/2015 8:02:24 PM)
Lord Howe Island doesn't seem to trigger reinforcements for the allied player. At least, I haven't heard Mundy cheering....

witpqs -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/19/2015 9:22:29 PM)
I just looked (provided the same as my game), and mainland Australia is country code 30, while Lord Howe Island is country code 32.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/19/2015 9:34:36 PM)
Looks like meat's back on the table boys. Looks to me like Lord Howe is worth the effort.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/19/2015 9:47:20 PM)
I guess its a good thing to get multiple divisions depleted massively. After a month of watching them and wondering why some of them don't seem to be replenishing at all, check out a leader. Hmmmmm, a Admin of 36? A staff person walks into the room. The commander has a map out with lots of military figures on it. The commander is bent over, staring intently at the figures and moving them around. "Sir, please sign form 182-A, authorization for the requisition of troops form, so we can get it sent off fast" "Huh? Sure put it over there." There's a stack of 100 papers in a corner of the desk. None of them have been signed. The commander goes back to looking at his figures. "Sir, if we don't get this form signed, we can't sign form 182-B, requisition of troops form" "Umm, don't worry, I'll get to it (continuing to bend down at the level of his figures, looking through them). Can you get me some more cake."

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/19/2015 11:21:06 PM)
March 23rd, 1942 Promising Ground combat at Suva (132,160) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 18212 troops, 190 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 537 Defending force 9319 troops, 88 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 260 Japanese adjusted assault: 501 Allied adjusted defense: 149 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 810 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 82 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Allied ground losses: 630 casualties reported Squads: 24 destroyed, 23 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 9 (3 destroyed, 6 disabled) North China Attrition Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 32894 troops, 394 guns, 496 vehicles, Assault Value = 1103 Defending force 30497 troops, 143 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 726 Japanese adjusted assault: 560 Allied adjusted defense: 415 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 642 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled Vehicles lost 60 (6 destroyed, 54 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2064 casualties reported Squads: 47 destroyed, 228 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 31 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 28 (2 destroyed, 26 disabled) Assaulting units: 5th Armored Car Co 15th Tank Regiment 23rd Tank Regiment 110th Division 13th Tank Regiment 26th Division 9th Tank Regiment 8th Ind Engineer Regiment 5th Tank Regiment 10th Tank Regiment 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Mortar Battalion 51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment 6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 48th Chinese Corps 51st Chinese Corps 90th Chinese Corps 69th Chinese Corps 38th Chinese Corps 19th Chinese Corps 83rd Chinese Corps 34th Separate Brigade 6th Group Army 23rd Chinese Corps 1st War Area 21st Chinese Base Force Aleutians Meat Grinder Ground combat at Dutch Harbor (171,50) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 15450 troops, 216 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 288 Defending force 7737 troops, 113 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 192 Japanese adjusted assault: 134 Allied adjusted defense: 349 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1792 casualties reported Squads: 92 destroyed, 24 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 32 (8 destroyed, 24 disabled) Allied ground losses: 234 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled) Assaulting units: Guards Mixed Brigade 2nd China Assault Division 64th Naval Guard Unit 1st Fleet 5th JNAF AF Unit 92nd Base Force 37th JNAF AF Unit Defending units: 37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment 201st(Sep) Infantry Regiment 151st Cmbt Engineer Battalion Dutch Harbor USN Base Force 2/250th Coastal Artillery Battalion

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/20/2015 12:02:47 AM)
March 24th, 1942 Yamamoto paces frantically behind his desk. Suddenly his door bursts open. "Urgent Message from Dutch Harbor". Before the message can be delivered and without looking at the messenger, Yamamoto's replies, "Tell them to attack". A moment later, the door bursts open again. "Urgent message from Suva." "Tell them to attack." Again, another messenger, "Urgent Message from Wenchow" "Tell them to attack." "Your wife is in the hospital" "Tell her to attack" "Your mechanic is on the phone" "Hey, how's it going" as he sits at his desk, puts his feet up, relaxes into the chair and smiles. (What movie did I steal this from)

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/20/2015 1:04:31 AM)
March 26th, 1942 SoPac Yay Ground combat at Suva (132,160) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 17472 troops, 190 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 460 Defending force 8828 troops, 82 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 218 Japanese adjusted assault: 630 Allied adjusted defense: 131 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Suva !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 1168 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 85 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled) Allied ground losses: 9476 casualties reported Squads: 338 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 409 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 69 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 98 (98 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 102 (102 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 8 Assaulting units: 1st Maizuru Assault Division Karafuto Mixed Brigade 6th Ind.Infantry Brigade 53rd Naval Guard Unit Defending units: 8th NZ Brigade 1st Fiji Battalion 2nd Fiji Battalion 14th NZ Brigade Suva Naval Base Force 1st RNZAF Base Sqdn 35th RNZA Bty 37th RNZA Bty China Wow Ground combat at Changsha (82,52) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 51300 troops, 243 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1766 Defending force 13084 troops, 102 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 416 Allied adjusted assault: 1256 Japanese adjusted defense: 1641 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 663 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 34 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Allied ground losses: 2005 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 173 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled Assaulting units: 44th Chinese Corps 7th Chinese Corps 94th Chinese Corps 84th Chinese Corps 73rd Chinese Corps 87th Chinese Corps 45th Chinese Corps 5th Construction Regiment 19th Group Army 9th War Area 29th Group Army 21st Group Army 20th Group Army 17th Chinese Base Force Defending units: 13th Division

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/20/2015 2:03:48 PM)
Now some questions about China. They get 500 replacement squads a month. These squads come in anywhere or originate in Changsha/Chungking? I read somewhere about Japan needs to kill 350 squads a month. Why 150 less than 500? Not clear on why 350 is a magic number or what that person incorrect? I'm going to assume that you need supply to pull these squads in. How fast do they get them? Looking back over this month, I would bet at least 1000-1500 squads destroyed (minimum) and 2-3 times that number in disruptions.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/20/2015 2:08:32 PM)
March 26th, 1942 Northern China More Attrition He's placing small units in the mountains east of Lanchow to Tienshui. I'm running out with Divs and smacking them around. Ground combat at 80,35 (near Lanchow) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 10939 troops, 98 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 230 Defending force 9293 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 269 Japanese adjusted assault: 231 Allied adjusted defense: 58 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: leaders(+) Japanese ground losses: 85 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 3151 casualties reported Squads: 134 destroyed, 23 disabled Non Combat: 91 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 2 And the main thrust Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 32406 troops, 394 guns, 478 vehicles, Assault Value = 1060 Defending force 28148 troops, 129 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 523 Japanese adjusted assault: 518 Allied adjusted defense: 877 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 526 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 19 disabled Vehicles lost 55 (3 destroyed, 52 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1001 casualties reported Squads: 117 destroyed, 74 disabled Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 67 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 13th Tank Regiment 9th Tank Regiment 8th Ind Engineer Regiment 23rd Tank Regiment 110th Division 15th Tank Regiment 5th Tank Regiment 26th Division 10th Tank Regiment 52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Armored Car Co 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Mortar Battalion 51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 83rd Chinese Corps 51st Chinese Corps 69th Chinese Corps 38th Chinese Corps 48th Chinese Corps 90th Chinese Corps 19th Chinese Corps 34th Separate Brigade 6th Group Army 1st War Area 23rd Chinese Corps 21st Chinese Base Force

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/20/2015 2:09:03 PM)
He can't be taking these types of losses or can he?

ny59giants -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/20/2015 2:33:57 PM)
quote: Not clear on why 350 is a magic number or what that person incorrect? This IS the monthly replacement rate!!

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/20/2015 5:35:03 PM)
Ahhh. So I'm incorrect. That figures.[:)]

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/22/2015 1:09:27 AM)
March 29th, 1942 Luzon Slowly Ground combat at Manila (79,77) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 67702 troops, 703 guns, 343 vehicles, Assault Value = 1709 Defending force 57080 troops, 396 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 1288 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Japanese adjusted assault: 993 Allied adjusted defense: 805 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3678 casualties reported Squads: 30 destroyed, 276 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 18 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 37 disabled Guns lost 33 (1 destroyed, 32 disabled) Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1404 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 150 disabled Non Combat: 52 destroyed, 41 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled Guns lost 27 (8 destroyed, 19 disabled) Vehicles lost 13 (3 destroyed, 10 disabled) Assaulting units: 4th Division 65th Brigade 48th Division 5th Division 16th Division 21st Ind Engineer Regiment 2nd Division 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 14th Army 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 91st PA Infantry Division 192nd Tank Battalion 1st PA Infantry Division 1st Constabulary Regiment 51st PA Infantry Division 194th Tank Battalion 4th Marine Regiment 57th PS Infantry Regiment 41st PA Infantry Division 21st PA Infantry Division 71st PA Infantry Division 11th PA Infantry Division 31st PA Infantry Division 26th PS Cavalry Regiment 2nd Constabulary Regiment 4th PAAC Avn Sup II Corps 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion US Forces Far East 1st USMC AA Battalion 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment Clark Field AAF Base Force 11th PAAC Avn Sup 24th PS FA Regiment !/23rd PS FA Battalion Cavite USN Base Force Nichols Field AAF Base Force 27th Avn Sup Far East USAAF Asiatic Fleet 35th Avn Sup 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment 24th Avn Sup I/Prov'nl SPM Grp Northern China Atritting Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 31522 troops, 394 guns, 469 vehicles, Assault Value = 1042 Defending force 23762 troops, 127 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 397 Japanese adjusted assault: 443 Allied adjusted defense: 436 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 156 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 2421 casualties reported Squads: 99 destroyed, 56 disabled Non Combat: 66 destroyed, 26 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 27 (16 destroyed, 11 disabled) Units destroyed 2 Assaulting units: 9th Tank Regiment 23rd Tank Regiment 15th Tank Regiment 5th Tank Regiment 13th Tank Regiment 26th Division 110th Division 10th Tank Regiment 52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 1st Mortar Battalion 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Armored Car Co 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 8th Ind Engineer Regiment 51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 69th Chinese Corps 48th Chinese Corps 90th Chinese Corps 19th Chinese Corps 38th Chinese Corps 83rd Chinese Corps 34th Separate Brigade 1st War Area 51st Chinese Corps 23rd Chinese Corps 6th Group Army Central China Fumbling Ground combat at Changsha (82,52) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 82424 troops, 656 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 2513 Defending force 62519 troops, 286 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1623 Japanese adjusted assault: 3320 Allied adjusted defense: 4929 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-) experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 7675 casualties reported Squads: 32 destroyed, 324 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 63 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 62 disabled Guns lost 65 (2 destroyed, 63 disabled) Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2587 casualties reported Squads: 30 destroyed, 219 disabled Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 75 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled) Assaulting units: 34th Division 3rd Division 40th Division 39th Division 13th Division 9th Division 11th Army Defending units: 7th Chinese Corps 45th Chinese Corps 44th Chinese Corps 73rd Chinese Corps 94th Chinese Corps 84th Chinese Corps 87th Chinese Corps 5th Construction Regiment 9th War Area 21st Group Army 19th Group Army 20th Group Army 29th Group Army 17th Chinese Base Force

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/22/2015 1:18:14 AM)
March 29th, 1942 In a tent, just outside of Changsha, the entire general staff of the 11th Army is sitting around table with a map of Asia and a number of cardboard pieces on the map, some stacked to incredibly high levels. "Stop bumping the table", says the general of the 39th Division, "that's the 3rd time I have to build this stack again". The general of the 9th Army says, "How much are supply costs for attacking?" When no one answers, he sighs, "where are the rules again? Any pizza left?" "My CW subs are searching for you around Truk," the general of the 40th Division pipes in, as most are having conversations at the same time. He's wearing a US flag pin on his suit. Suddenly, messengers burst in the room. "The attack has begun on Changsha." The generals look at the messengers a bit slowly. "In a minute, we're almost done with the turn. I've still got to roll." The messengers leave the tent dumbfounded. "What?" All of the chief staff members are huddled together outside the tent like bowling pins ready to be knocked down. One responds, "They all have good attacks, but all of them have less than 50 admin ratings and questionable leadership. That's why we are holding all these papers they haven't signed yet." "No sh&t," one of the messenger mumbles as he starts running back to his radio.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/22/2015 3:44:08 PM)
March 30th, 1942 Northern China Bing, Bam, Boom Chinese are in retreat in the north. If Bill continues his pattern, it's not a full retreat. He'll pull back and continue a defense in depth. I'm not sure what I would do in his situation. Perhaps a max garrison of cities with fort versus good defensive terrain but no forts. All I can say is that my armor provides me the advantage for at least combat in terrain without forts. Ground combat at 80,39 (near Tienshui) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 31469 troops, 394 guns, 469 vehicles, Assault Value = 1022 Defending force 21916 troops, 107 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 348 Japanese adjusted assault: 793 Allied adjusted defense: 373 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 49 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 37 (2 destroyed, 35 disabled) Allied ground losses: 7339 casualties reported Squads: 167 destroyed, 20 disabled Non Combat: 234 destroyed, 17 disabled Engineers: 7 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 24 (18 destroyed, 6 disabled) Units retreated 9 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 13th Tank Regiment 9th Tank Regiment 5th Tank Regiment 110th Division 23rd Tank Regiment 8th Ind Engineer Regiment 15th Tank Regiment 26th Division 10th Tank Regiment 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 1st Mortar Battalion 5th Armored Car Co 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment 52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 19th Chinese Corps 38th Chinese Corps 90th Chinese Corps 34th Separate Brigade 51st Chinese Corps 48th Chinese Corps 1st War Area 83rd Chinese Corps 6th Group Army Luzon Sooooo Close Ground combat at Manila (79,77) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 65265 troops, 703 guns, 343 vehicles, Assault Value = 1481 Defending force 55071 troops, 386 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 1134 Japanese adjusted assault: 1098 Allied adjusted defense: 689 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1149 casualties reported Squads: 21 destroyed, 125 disabled Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 15 destroyed, 14 disabled Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 10 (8 destroyed, 2 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2106 casualties reported Squads: 59 destroyed, 80 disabled Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 58 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled Guns lost 17 (5 destroyed, 12 disabled) Vehicles lost 24 (7 destroyed, 17 disabled) Assaulting units: 21st Ind Engineer Regiment 5th Division 16th Division 48th Division 65th Brigade 4th Division 2nd Division 14th Army 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 57th PS Infantry Regiment 1st PA Infantry Division 192nd Tank Battalion 1st Constabulary Regiment 71st PA Infantry Division 41st PA Infantry Division 4th Marine Regiment 31st PA Infantry Division 91st PA Infantry Division 21st PA Infantry Division 194th Tank Battalion 26th PS Cavalry Regiment 51st PA Infantry Division 11th PA Infantry Division 2nd Constabulary Regiment Cavite USN Base Force Clark Field AAF Base Force Asiatic Fleet 24th PS FA Regiment 4th PAAC Avn Sup 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion !/23rd PS FA Battalion 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment 1st USMC AA Battalion 11th PAAC Avn Sup 27th Avn Sup 35th Avn Sup 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment 24th Avn Sup Far East USAAF Nichols Field AAF Base Force II Corps US Forces Far East I/Prov'nl SPM Grp

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/23/2015 6:31:25 PM)
Perhaps someone can shed light on naval ship movement rates. I have 30 knot battlecruisers that have an 8/4 movement. I have a 31 knot carrier that has a 7/3 movement. Why?

witpqs -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/23/2015 7:50:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vicberg Perhaps someone can shed light on naval ship movement rates. I have 30 knot battlecruisers that have an 8/4 movement. I have a 31 knot carrier that has a 7/3 movement. Why? When you say 8/4 and 7/3 are you looking at the ship or the TF? The TF will be limited by the slowest ship, including if any ops points are already burned by refueling/rearming. The 8/4 (just for example) means basically "in the first naval movement phase next turn, full speed=8 hexes and cuise speed=4 hexes, provided that nothing besides movement uses up too many ops points, in which case fewer hexes might be moved".

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/23/2015 10:38:51 PM)
They are TFs, but single ships each. So it looked just strange that a slower knot BC would be at 8/4 vs. the 31 knot carrier at 7/3. Op points could be at play.

witpqs -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/23/2015 11:15:05 PM)
There is a column for ops points for each ship on the TF display. 0 = none used, 1000 = all used (for the first naval phase of the next turn).

ny59giants -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/25/2015 11:36:52 AM)
Changsha - leave two or three divisions there. Send the rest somewhere to take ground and win the war of maneuver.

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/25/2015 3:39:20 PM)
Well, I started that exact move and then decided to go back into Chansha with the 11th and 6 divisions. The 25th Army with 3 divisions and 4 tank regiments is racing up towards Henyang. They'll be there within a week. Once I'm there, he'll be forced to start withdrawing and I can take advantage of that. I've been doing daily airfield attacks on all 3 cities Henyang Changsha, etc... Once Changsha is done, I have a strategic decisions To move the 25th out of China or to keep it there and attempt to go the long route into Burma. Not sure if I'll have time for Burma via the Eastern China approach. [image]local://upfiles/28990/71A5A983D10C4671BB11602C68AB9CA1.jpg[/image]

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/25/2015 4:22:28 PM)
April 6th, 1942 Luzon Kaapow Manila falls which frees up 5 divisions for operations elsewhere. Ground combat at Manila (79,77) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 72895 troops, 735 guns, 341 vehicles, Assault Value = 1698 Defending force 48002 troops, 343 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 812 Japanese adjusted assault: 1808 Allied adjusted defense: 229 Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Manila !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 2193 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 165 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 10 destroyed, 19 disabled Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled) Allied ground losses: 61388 casualties reported Squads: 1574 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 3623 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 65 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 487 (487 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 157 (157 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 29 Assaulting units: 21st Ind Engineer Regiment 4th Division 16th Division 48th Division 5th Division 65th Brigade 2nd Division 14th Army 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 21st PA Infantry Division 11th PA Infantry Division 1st PA Infantry Division 192nd Tank Battalion 194th Tank Battalion 91st PA Infantry Division 57th PS Infantry Regiment 51st PA Infantry Division 71st PA Infantry Division 1st Constabulary Regiment 41st PA Infantry Division 31st PA Infantry Division 26th PS Cavalry Regiment 4th Marine Regiment 2nd Constabulary Regiment Far East USAAF Cavite USN Base Force 24th PS FA Regiment 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion Clark Field AAF Base Force 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment 24th Avn Sup 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment Asiatic Fleet Nichols Field AAF Base Force II Corps US Forces Far East !/23rd PS FA Battalion I/Prov'nl SPM Grp

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/25/2015 9:31:36 PM)
April 8th, 1942 Northern China Main Armored Thrust Ground combat at 81,40 (near Ankang) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 19481 troops, 222 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 689 Defending force 23742 troops, 136 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 667 Japanese adjusted assault: 358 Allied adjusted defense: 598 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 658 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 51 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled Vehicles lost 33 (2 destroyed, 31 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1569 casualties reported Squads: 7 destroyed, 132 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 32 (1 destroyed, 31 disabled) Assaulting units: 26th Division 9th Tank Regiment 8th Ind Engineer Regiment 13th Tank Regiment 15th Tank Regiment 23rd Tank Regiment 2nd Ind Engineer Regiment 10th Tank Regiment 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment 52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 1st Mortar Battalion 5th Armored Car Co Defending units: 80th Chinese Corps 92nd Chinese Corps 18th Artillery Regiment 1st Artillery Regiment 20th Artillery Regiment 56th AT Gun Regiment He must be getting desperate, this south of Ankang Ground combat at 83,44 (near Ankang) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 23615 troops, 159 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 801 Defending force 6822 troops, 50 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 205 Allied adjusted assault: 183 Japanese adjusted defense: 1309 Allied assault odds: 1 to 7 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+) Attacker: shock(+), supply(-) Japanese ground losses: 189 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Allied ground losses: 588 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 46 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 17th Chinese Corps 55th Chinese Corps 56th Chinese Corps 77th Chinese Corps 2nd Group Army 7th Artillery Regiment Defending units: 1st Ind.Mixed Brigade [image]local://upfiles/28990/4D80E2A4E8AB42CDAE1600F75125B7C0.jpg[/image]

vicberg -> RE: Did I wake that giant AGAIN? vicberg(j) vs. BillBrown(A) - No Bill Pls (7/25/2015 9:34:29 PM)
Burma He's started sweeps with Hurricanes and P-38E. I lost around 20 Oscars to his 1 Hurricane. Are Oscars worth ANYTHING? Not sure what to do with them. I've withdrawn all sentai's from Burma to rebuild while I get my supply situation fixed there and will go back in force, but I'm struggling with the Oscar. I do have a LOT of AA there, so hopefully that will minimize some of the damage I'm going to take.

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