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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/8/2016 6:06:49 AM)

Pat allows the claim.

Next question.

The RAF and French are attempting three ground strikes.

1. RAF Swordfish CVP.

2. RAF Wellesley bomber escorted by Gladiator CVP.

3. French Boston bomber and P-36 A fighter flying as a bomber.

Do you wish to intercept and if so how? You have two fighter units (BF 109 E-2 and Br 109 E-4) that can intercept.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/8/2016 6:18:40 AM)

Also, I need your "standing orders" on how any aborts or shoot downs of the allied aircraft would be handle in any air to air combat resolution.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/8/2016 3:26:32 PM)

The e-4 will intercept the FR group. take out the bomber first if it is my option. No intercept else where.




Courtenay -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/8/2016 3:57:43 PM)

I am curious why you are bombing the German units in the forest, where it is less likely you will do something, rather than the hex southeast of Brussels, which is clear, and where flipped German units will foul up German attacks. Also, If the Hawk was where I think it was, it could have stayed on the ground and intercepted if the Germans intercepted.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/8/2016 11:44:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

I am curious why you are bombing the German units in the forest, where it is less likely you will do something, rather than the hex southeast of Brussels, which is clear, and where flipped German units will foul up German attacks. Also, If the Hawk was where I think it was, it could have stayed on the ground and intercepted if the Germans intercepted.

As it turns out that was the only ground strike that was effective.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/8/2016 11:46:37 PM)

SO39, Allied #8. Ground Strike 1.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/8/2016 11:47:03 PM)

SO39, Allied #8. Ground Strike 2.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/8/2016 11:47:24 PM)

SO39, Allied #8. Ground Strike 3.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/8/2016 11:50:17 PM)

SO39. Allied #8. Actions.

Forgot to post this at the beginning of my impulse.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 12:26:05 AM)

SO39. Allied #8. France.

I was sorely tempted to attack the exposed 6-3 Germany corps with the French. However, in the end I didn't because the risk far outweighed the gain. In fact, a bad roll would have been disastrous for the allies in France.

Rules question. Do pick circle artillery units allow the attacker to pick the Blitz table, assuming the defending units have no armor units?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 12:26:47 AM)

SO39. Allied #8. Poland. Western USSR.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 12:27:13 AM)

SO39. Allied #8. China.

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Courtenay -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 5:14:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rkr1958


Rules question. Do pick circle artillery units allow the attacker to pick the Blitz table, assuming the defending units have no armor units?


No. They count as ARM corps on defense only.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 1:35:42 PM)

Well, forgot to get a screen shot, but the turn ended after the allies turn. No partisans. Two chits for Germany went to defensive. Game is asking for the location of the Ru chit (offensive or defensive), I cannot save the game at this point. Where do you want it?




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 5:56:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

Well, forgot to get a screen shot, but the turn ended after the allies turn. No partisans. Two chits for Germany went to defensive. Game is asking for the location of the Ru chit (offensive or defensive), I cannot save the game at this point. Where do you want it?
defensive pool is fine.

1. The USA adds a 3rd chit to the Germany/Italy Entry Pool. (The Japanese pools contains 1 chit).

2. Option (4), "Intern French CV" is selected. This causes one chit from the Germany/Italy entry pool to be moved to the tension pool (2 in entry, 1 in tension).

3. I elect to replace the Berm (French CV) with a US transport.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 5:57:20 PM)

SO39. End of Turn. Destroyed & Repair Pools.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 5:59:35 PM)

Breakdown Pool.

I have yet to make use of unlimited breakdown. Does that work like "regular" breakdown of a corps where you can only breakdown between turns and only one corps per power per turn?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 6:00:19 PM)

SO39. End of Turn. Preliminary Production. China & USSR.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 6:05:09 PM)

SO39. End of Turn. Preliminary Production. CW, France & USA.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 11:06:37 PM)

Currently held up by a JP convoy issue (see the Tech Folder for details).




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 11:42:17 PM)

Axis Production Prelim


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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/9/2016 11:44:29 PM)

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Breakdown Pool.

I have yet to make use of unlimited breakdown. Does that work like "regular" breakdown of a corps where you can only breakdown between turns and only one corps per power per turn?


Yes, it only occurs during the inter-turn activities after final reorganization. I'm not sure if there is a limit on how many units can be broken down. They cannot be in a ZOC.




Courtenay -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/10/2016 1:08:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

quote:

Breakdown Pool.

I have yet to make use of unlimited breakdown. Does that work like "regular" breakdown of a corps where you can only breakdown between turns and only one corps per power per turn?


Yes, it only occurs during the inter-turn activities after final reorganization. I'm not sure if there is a limit on how many units can be broken down. They cannot be in a ZOC.

In regular breakdown, there is no limit to how many units you can break down in a turn. You can break down all the units one has units to break down into.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/10/2016 1:51:25 AM)

SO39. End of Turn. Use Oil, Allies.

The French! Why is it always the French?! [:)]

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/10/2016 4:42:13 AM)

SO39. End of Turn. Production Planning, Final. Allies.

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Courtenay -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/10/2016 2:22:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rkr1958

SO39. End of Turn. Use Oil, Allies.

The French! Why is it always the French?! [:)]


Something looks buggy here. Most of those units should have been able to trace to CW oil. Is there a reason they couldn't?

There is a known, mysterious bug where some units of a country can't trace to oil they should be able to, while other units can. It looks to me like you may have been hit by this. Or were things right, and the French just in really strange places?




brian brian -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/10/2016 3:06:34 PM)

The French don't have a co-operating Major Power currently.

It looks more like they already did re-org, correctly prioritizing the HQs, air, and TRS first. But I can't tell for sure.




Courtenay -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/10/2016 5:57:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: brian brian

The French don't have a co-operating Major Power currently.

It looks more like they already did re-org, correctly prioritizing the HQs, air, and TRS first. But I can't tell for sure.

Oh, that's right. The French and the English still aren't talking to each other. I had forgotten that.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/10/2016 7:27:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Courtenay


quote:

ORIGINAL: brian brian

The French don't have a co-operating Major Power currently.

It looks more like they already did re-org, correctly prioritizing the HQs, air, and TRS first. But I can't tell for sure.

Oh, that's right. The French and the English still aren't talking to each other. I had forgotten that.

I did try to use the cooperating power button to let the French reorg with CW oil but no oil showed up. I don't see any other way than the CW giving the French oil through trade. I plan to establish 1 oil point per turn up to the time it looks like France may fall. However, given the fact that pact is attacking France with Italy through "Vichy" territory and that Pat put both German pact chits in the defensive pool, I feel confident that Pat will not establish Vichy and will invade Spain to go after Gibraltar.

To say the least it's frustrating not to be able to reorg all French units especially when the Germans attack West on turn 1.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/10/2016 7:33:40 PM)

SO39. Allied Builds.

China (5 BPs): Cav Div(1), Cav(2), MIL(2)

CW (11 BPs): MIL(2), Terr(2), CP(1)x2, CA Repair(1), CVP(0)x2, FTR(2), Pilot(2)

France (6 BPs): MIL(2)x3

USA (11 BPs): CV Repair(2), CV 1st(2), AMPH 1st (2), TRS 1st (2), Terr(2)

USSR (8 BPs): Ski Div(2), INF(3) x 2

The USA liked that the CW aligned and was fighting with Belgium against the Germans. The USA added a chit to the German/Italy pool.

German/Italy: Entry pool contains 3 chits & tension pool 1.

Japan: Entry pool contains 1 chit & tension pool 0.

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