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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 1:18:06 AM)

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Do you wish to intercept any of the following? If yes, and unless you specific a unit, I'll use the weakest unit, requiring the least oil and in the lowest sea box to initiate.

(1) French, Marseilles. 2 BBs and 2 CAs to the West Med.

(2) RN, Malta. 3 BBs and 3 CAs to the Italian Coast.

(3) RN, Malta. 2 CAs to the East Med.

(4) RN, Gibraltar. CA loaded with 2-4 infantry Div to the West Med.

(5) RN, Gibraltar. BB to the West Med.

(6) RN, Gibraltar. 3 CAs to the West Med.

(7) RN, Plymouth. CV Courageous, 3 BBs to the Bay of Biscay and then to Cape St. Vincent. I'm not saying whether or not Cape St. Vincent is their final destination but this force intends to head at least that far. I'm giving this bit of intel away in order to speed play a bit. Otherwise, OPSEC is the word!

(8) RN, Plymouth. CV Ark Royal to the Bay of Biscay.

(9) RN, Liverpool. Queen Mary loaded with 7-3 infantry corps and CA to Bay of Biscay.

(10) RN, Liverpool. BB, CVL with no planes to Bay of Biscay.

(11) RN, Plymouth. CP to Bay of Biscay.

(12) RN, Plymouth. 2 CAs (older 3-2 ones) to Bay of Biscay.

(13) RN, Aden. 4 CAs to East Med.

(14) RN, Aden. 2 CPs to East Med.

(15) RN, Singapore. 2 CAs (6-movers) to East Med.

(16) RN, Singapore. 2 CAs (5-movers) to East Med.


1-6) no intercept (I'm guessing they are stopping in those sea zones - it's the first move I would make)
7) intercept in the BoB and in CSV if needed.
8) intercept
9) intercept
10-16) no intercept







rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 2:34:07 AM)

1. France will try to initiate combat in the Baltic Sea. Do you wish to fly the He 115c into that area, and if so, which box?

2. The CW will try to initiate combat off the Italian Coast. Do you wish to fly the Re 2000 fighter into the area, and if so, which box?

3. The CW selected no combat in several areas (see next post). As the non-phasing player do you wish to try to initiate combat in an of these areas. If so, which unit, or units, would you like to use to initiate combat?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 2:35:15 AM)

CW no combat areas. Which areas, if any, do you as the non-phasing player wish to initiate combat? Which unit, or units, would you like to use to initiate combat?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 2:37:38 AM)

ND39. Allied #3. Axis Naval Interception Attempt Results.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 2:42:41 AM)

In the East Med, the CW attempted to initiate combat but both search rolls failed. No contact.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 2:45:48 AM)

ND39. Allied #3. Post RN Movement. North Sea. Malta.

No combat, but thought these two areas might be of interest.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 2:50:10 AM)

First, I'm assuming all of the intercepts missed.

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1. France will try to initiate combat in the Baltic Sea. Do you wish to fly the He 115c into that area, and if so, which box?

2. The CW will try to initiate combat off the Italian Coast. Do you wish to fly the Re 2000 fighter into the area, and if so, which box?

3. The CW selected no combat in several areas (see next post). As the non-phasing player do you wish to try to initiate combat in an of these areas. If so, which unit, or units, would you like to use to initiate combat?


Now onto the specific questions:
1) He 115c will fly out as far as it can (I believe this should be the 2-box).
2) The Re2000 fighter will not fly out here.
3) Something funny is going on, apparently none of the units I used in impulse one to initiate combat were disorganized. I should not be able to initiate combat in CVB (I would if I could). I will initiate combat in CSV, BoB (both of those with units used to try to intercept), W. Med and E. Med. The Re2000 will fly out has far as possible in the W. Med (1 box I believe).




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 2:52:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

3) Something funny is going on, apparently none of the units I used in impulse one to initiate combat were disorganized.
I noticed that too that none of your units were disorganized. I thought this might be the result of the surprise impulse?




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:01:49 AM)

The RN finds and surprise the Italian RM off the Italian Coast. It's a good old fashion naval gun battle. The RN uses all their surprise points to maximize damage against the RM. What are your order for allocating damage?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:11:27 AM)

Italian Coast, Round 1 Naval Results.

Do you wish to stay or leave?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:15:28 AM)

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The RN finds and surprise the Italian RM off the Italian Coast. It's a good old fashion naval gun battle. The RN uses all their surprise points to maximize damage against the RM. What are your order for allocating damage?

X on San Giorgio
X on Duca D'Aosta
D on Garibaldi
A on any damaged unit from above (in order of above), if not availabe there then on Pola.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:17:37 AM)

The CW stays. What about the Italians?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:19:58 AM)

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:24:31 AM)

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The CW stays. What about the Italians?

Flee to La Spezia




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:26:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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The CW stays. What about the Italians?

Flee to La Spezia

Aye, Aye.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:27:52 AM)

ND39. Allied #3. Baltic.

Both searches fail.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:37:49 AM)

ND39. Allied #3. Cape St. Vincent.

I made an error in my naval moves and didn't catch it until I posted the questions on whether or not you want to intercept as the non-phasing player. The error was not moving a surface unit to the 0 box with the CPs in Cape St. Vincent. I meant to do that but just forgot. I was hoping you wouldn't notice and choose not to initiate combat, but that was a long shot. The battle went for two rounds.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:39:27 AM)

ND39. Allied #3. Cape St. Vincent. Round 1.

Of course, I had the chance to force both Italian subs to abort but could only manage one abort. I put the abort on the sub that was disorganized. And of course, this failure would cost me.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:42:14 AM)

ND39. Allied #3. Cape St. Vincent. Round 2.

[:@] Both sides stay and the battle mercifully ends after this round.

By the way, in all this "excitement" I select combat in in the Cape Verde Basin, but the searches failed. So that sub which should have been disorganized is by accident on my part.

I moved the aborted Italian sub to La Speiza.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:48:20 AM)

The Italians hit the jackpot in the West Med. Which sections would you like to include? What type of battle would you like to fight? How would you like to apply your surprise points?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 3:55:57 AM)

I had asked for the IT fighter to fly out to the W. Med. from post 186
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... W. Med and E. Med. The Re2000 will fly out has far as possible in the W. Med (1 box I believe).


How do you want to handle this, now that the searches have been rolled for the W. Med?





rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:06:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

I had asked for the IT fighter to fly out to the W. Med. from post 186
quote:

... W. Med and E. Med. The Re2000 will fly out has far as possible in the W. Med (1 box I believe).


How do you want to handle this, now that the searches have been rolled for the W. Med?


I missed that. I can set die rolls and have the Gabbiano be cleared.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:08:34 AM)

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The Italians hit the jackpot in the West Med. Which sections would you like to include? What type of battle would you like to fight? How would you like to apply your surprise points?


I will only engage the 0-box and I will make it a naval air (believe I should have 14 surprise points). If my fighter is involved, I will spend no surprise on the A-A. If not and you fly as a fighter, I'll spend 8 surprise to move my A-A up 1 (to +1) and yours down 3 (to -3). If you fly has a bomber, then I'll spend no surprise on the A-A, since there will be no A-A combat.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:11:36 AM)

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I missed that. I can set die rolls and have the Gabbiano be cleared.


If there is not a saved game to go back to, just play it as is with the instructions I indicated.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:15:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

quote:

The Italians hit the jackpot in the West Med. Which sections would you like to include? What type of battle would you like to fight? How would you like to apply your surprise points?


I will only engage the 0-box and I will make it a naval air (believe I should have 14 surprise points). If my fighter is involved, I will spend no surprise on the A-A. If not and you fly as a fighter, I'll spend 8 surprise to move my A-A up 1 (to +1) and yours down 3 (to -3). If you fly has a bomber, then I'll spend no surprise on the A-A, since there will be no A-A combat.
To make up for me not flying your fighter out I set the die rolls to clear the Italian NAV and abort the RN CVP, which flew as a fighter. I didn't use any of your surprise points, which you still have 14 left. How would you like to proceed from here?


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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:18:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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I missed that. I can set die rolls and have the Gabbiano be cleared.


If there is not a saved game to go back to, just play it as is with the instructions I indicated.

Wow ... I definitely need to work out the kinks. [:(]




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:26:10 AM)

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Wow ... I definitely need to work out the kinks.


It's just a game.
I'll spend 2 surprise to move the AA to no effect (actually use as many surprise points as it takes to make it ne - I believe it is two). Then spend all of the other on moving my columns up. If I've calculated correctly, that should result in a X 2D result. Apply, the X to the carrier, you apply the first D. My D will go on the carrier if is survived the X, else on the Nelson (unless you aborted it with your D, then the Warspite).




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:34:31 AM)

Oh my goodness, that was a disaster for the RN (and for me too). [:)]

The RN stays and I assume so do the Italians. No it's round 2.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:39:47 AM)

West Med, Round 2.

I know it's like closing the barn door after the horses got out but I did fly the Italian fighter out to the 1-box.

The battle continues. Do the Italians wish to fight a naval air combat?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:43:15 AM)

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Do the Italians wish to fight a naval air combat?

Yes, naval air.




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