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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:45:27 AM)

Abort to who?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:54:56 AM)

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Abort to who?

The Glasgow. I believe he is the only one in the 4-box.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:57:57 AM)

The Glasgow survives the abort. On to the next round.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 4:59:31 AM)

The battle ends. Both searches fail.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 5:25:53 AM)

ND39. Allied #3. China, Post Movement.

No land combats.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 5:26:37 AM)

ND39. Allied #3. Europe, Post Movement.

No land combats.

And with that, this allied impulse comes to an end.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 6:00:57 AM)

Here is the weather and axis action selections. Rest will wait till tomorrow afternoon.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 6:04:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Ronnie
I thought that last naval combat was very clunky. I love MWiF and I'm having a blast in our game and I absolutely love the naval part of MWiF. But that last battle in the West Med was very draining on me. I felt like I kept messing things up. Also, it took so long to complete. Do you have an ideals on how me might make it smoother and cut down on the number of exchanges? I'm thinking of something like the non-phasing player giving standing orders and let the phasing player execute the combat to his best understanding of those orders. Do you think something like that is possible?



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ORIGINAL: Pat
I think we will have to try some standing orders - looking ahead when we sent the files. I still think there will be times, when those make no sense based on how things work out and it will get slow. My previous email games, with cyberboard and VASSAL, were also clunky and slowed down during big naval turns. We can see if any of the "experts" have any advice with MWIF. My big issue with MWIF in this format, is it is not easy to correct simple/obvious mistake


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ORIGINAL: Ronnie
So I was thinking if the non-phasing side issued a prioritized set of objectives and conditions under which the phasing player would try to carry those out. I'd say that as the phasing player executing this for the non-phasing player that we'd be smarter (in general) than any AI could be. Surely we can figure something out. By the way, I'll post all this discussion in the forum to see if we get any ideals from the community.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 6:11:43 AM)

One more file. Through the naval moves. I moved two CA's to the Baltic 4-box. Note, I also initiated combat in the BoB, but set the search rolls to 10,10. This should disorganize both subs, as they should be.

Do the FR wish to initiate combat in the Baltic?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/12/2016 11:57:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa


Do the FR wish to initiate combat in the Baltic?
Wait a second. Both French subs should be disorganized. The French had tried twice and failed both times to initiate combat. So, go ahead and initiate and set both search rolls to 10 to disorganize the French sub.

I also confirmed the bug where initiating naval units aren't disorganized. So, until it's fixed we'll need to keep track of which units should be disorganize and disorganize them ourselves.

I've figured out a way using the debug tool of the previous beta version to disorganize those units that should be disorganized and still play with the current version. Just let me know which units need to be disorganized and I'll take care of it.

What power I have at my fingertips. I can disorganize the entire German and Italian armies and march unopposed into Berlin and Rome. Though, I promise to use this power only for good. [;)]



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 12:04:34 AM)

Only significant moves in S. China - shown below. Ready for allied impulse 7.

For the disorganization:
a) appears the FR sub in the Baltic still refuses to be disorganized (I searched and rolled 10's).
b) W. Med, my lowest two combat factor CA's should be disorganized.
c) E. Med, my lowest factor CA should be disorganized.
d) All the axis subs at sea should be disorganized (only one is disorganized).

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 12:48:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

Only significant moves in S. China - shown below. Ready for allied impulse 7.

For the disorganization:
a) appears the FR sub in the Baltic still refuses to be disorganized (I searched and rolled 10's).
b) W. Med, my lowest two combat factor CA's should be disorganized.
c) E. Med, my lowest factor CA should be disorganized.
d) All the axis subs at sea should be disorganized (only one is disorganized).


Done. Plus the CW disorganized a sub in the West Med and a CA in box 0 of the E. Med.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 1:12:51 AM)

ND39. Allied #7. Actions.

The RN uses the 2 naval moves of their combine to move a CP from Edingburgh and a CP from Plymouth to Cape St. Vincent. With all axis subs disorganized, the CW was able to make these moves without any possibility of axis interception.

The CW declines to initiate combat in the Bay of Biscay, Cape St. Vincent and the West Med. The axis, as the non-phasing player, will not have an opportunity either because the allied did not move any additional units into the West Med and all axis subs in the other two areas are disorganized.

In the East Med the RN elects to initiate combat and ...

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 1:13:47 AM)

ND39. Allied #7. East Med.

Combat is initiated. How do you wish to apply your two damage and one abort possible result?

Also, what are your orders for staying or leaving after this initial round?

If these's a second round do you wish to apply results in the same manner? If you have enough surprise points do you wish to avoid combat?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 1:34:50 AM)

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How do you wish to apply your two damage and one abort possible result?


D on Fiume
D on Zara
A on either of those that are damaged (in the same order above), and if not those then on the Trento

I will stay for another round.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 1:44:26 AM)

ND39. Allied #7. East Med. Round 1.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 1:46:10 AM)

ND39. Allied #7. East Med. Round 2, Search.

Search goes your way in the second round. How do you wish to fight this?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 1:56:10 AM)

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Search goes your way in the second round. How do you wish to fight this?


I will engage the 0-box only. Should have 9 surprise points.
I will use 6 to shift the result against the IT to ne
I will use 2 (leaving one unused) to shift the result against the CW up 1 to 2D 3A.

I will stay for another round.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 2:10:35 AM)

ND39. Allied #7. East Med. Round 2.

Well that round didn't go too well for the RN. Now it's on to a possible round 3.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 2:20:24 AM)

ND39. Allied #7. East Med. Round 3.

The search for round 3 also went your way. I took the liberty of fighting round 3. Surprise points used to reduce results to none for the Italians. Remaining surprise points used to finish off the RN CAs in the East Med, leaving 2 lone CPs, which abort and concede the area to the Italians.


A total embarrassment for the RN. PM Churchill, or is it Lord of the Admiralty, is very unhappy with you. [:)]

This loss probably means the fall of the Chamberlain government and the installation on a new government either under Lord Halifax or Sir Winston Churchill. I wonder who were get the backing of Chamberlain and before Britain's new prime minister? [:D]

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 2:24:55 AM)

ND39. Allied #7. The Med.

I moved the Italian aborts to La Speiza through the Western Med. The RN, having enough of the Italian RM for this day, let them pass through without trying to intercept. The RN aborts were moved to Malta.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 2:56:18 AM)

ND39. Allied #7. France.

Post movement, no land combat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 2:56:51 AM)

ND39. Allied #7. China.

Post movement, no land combat.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 4:18:24 AM)

Here is the initial impulse 7 information. Turn did not end. Weather is more of the same and all the axis powers take land actions.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 4:38:03 AM)

Strat bombing. The Italians are trying to make up for the production bonus they are providing the FR.


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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 4:39:06 AM)

Ground strikes. A few intercept choices for the CW over Belgium. I do have two more fighters than can counter-intercept.


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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 5:20:44 AM)

Hurricane I intercept over Antwerp and Spitfire over Brussels. Return fighters back to England if possible. If not, then 1 hex behind front lines. In air to air target bombers and leave when bomber fate is resolved (i.e., aborted, cleared or shot down).

Also, for land combats choose assaults where I can and take the weakest/cheapest corps as loss.

It's my bedtime ... goodnight. [>:]



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 5:57:13 AM)

Well the air combat rolls went all allied, hard to beat a 20 and a 4.



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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 6:00:29 AM)

Ground strikes of Warsaw by two Stukas resulted in one unit flipped. And in China the Japanese missed the units NE of Chiang.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/13/2016 6:46:04 AM)

Moved through a Chinese city.


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