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topeverest -> RE: Turn 79 Rostov (9/23/2017 6:06:40 PM)

Enemy will make some progress here too. Pushing hard to halt eastward progress but expect enemy to link at Kerch before winter is out.



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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Turn 79 December 17, 1942 (9/23/2017 7:21:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: topeverest


Man do I need the trucks boost.



What is your Truck situation right now? What are your numbers?




topeverest -> RE: Turn 79 December 17, 1942 (9/23/2017 10:00:57 PM)

Here are the truck numbers.

Like most of this game, I am learning on the go here too. I understand what the rulebook states but I don't have a good idea where to manage the number to.

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topeverest -> vehicle production (9/23/2017 10:03:22 PM)

Here are vehicles



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topeverest -> Turn 80, December 24, 1943 (9/25/2017 11:11:11 AM)

2 turns until 1943 and its booty

1. Germany takes North Moscow hex in heavy armored fighting.
2. Stalingrad Panzer ball now within 10 hexes of the city
3. Rostov attack pushes south modestly, allowing retreating Russian units on the western edge to get away




topeverest -> Moscow (9/25/2017 11:20:09 AM)

Heavy German armor takes North Moscow. Other heavy fighting somewhat localized.

Moscow doesn't hold in my mind.





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topeverest -> Caucuses (9/25/2017 11:32:22 AM)

Here I feel a bit better. I don't see a big breakthrough, but I could be fooling myself.



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topeverest -> 1942 Ends with turn 81 (10/8/2017 1:19:01 PM)

All thing considered, especially my poor play, luck clearly was on my side in 42.

Russians retained Stalingrad, Baku, Saratov, and most of Moscow.

Losses for the year



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topeverest -> RE: 1942 Ends with turn 81 (10/8/2017 1:43:40 PM)

here is the updated map for year end



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topeverest -> Morale Changes (10/8/2017 1:50:18 PM)

And we are into 1943 - Romania and Hungary are +5 didn't expect that...

1942 #'s
__________________________________________
GAME PARAMETERS

Current National Morale:
GER FIN ITA RUM HUN SLO SOV
70 70 45 45 50 50 50

1943 Current
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GAME PARAMETERS

Current National Morale:
GER FIN ITA RUM HUN SLO SOV
69 70 45 50 55 55 51

Germany headed down to 65
Soviets +1 per month until 65 in 44




topeverest -> Turn 82 (10/8/2017 1:56:52 PM)

So the big fix I am working on now is

1. build more heavy armor SU for armor corps
2. Fix the dozens of armies with too many CP's - note I built 10 more armies to fix the problem, as I calculated I was net over by more than 150 points. I was using the old manual that showed Russian armies got more CPs as time went on, and by the time I was graciously notified of my error, it was too late to do in 42, given the truck limitations. now that it is 43, the armies are built and will be integrated over time
3. building more airbases and air units (concentration on bombing)
4. try to avoid a major German breakthrough for the rest of the winter




topeverest -> AFV and airframe production & Pool (10/8/2017 2:02:51 PM)

No issues here. Losses are sufficiently replaced.




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ericv -> RE: AFV and airframe production & Pool (10/9/2017 10:05:33 AM)

Your army is in really good shape for januari 1943. Furthermore you didn't lose too much ground and cities as well. Begin of 1943 will be definitely the turning point.

As to your CP problems: you might have held out on raising so much armies...... you need to start building rifle corps. (Using 2 guard div + 1 normal rifle brigade) each time you will save 1 CP. 4 corps will save 4 cp. You get the point. At the end of 1943 you will have a lot of empty armies. More advice : build more zapper regiments. The best low truck cost support units out there. The heavy su and tank look great but cost a ton of trucks.

Your vehicle pool ; in parenthesis is what you need this turn. The nummer outside parenthesis your actual value. Get the actual above the pArenthesis




ericv -> RE: AFV and airframe production & Pool (10/9/2017 10:09:40 AM)

I am not an expert in air warfare. But a lot of players start disbanding the soviet LEVEL bombers. And just play with the tactical bombers. The Il2's. That will save a lot of trucks. Disbanding superfluous hq will also net you trucks and manpower.




ericv -> RE: AFV and airframe production & Pool (10/9/2017 10:11:15 AM)

I am not sure how many mech and tank corps you have. But you can have too many. These guys will also eat up your trucks.




topeverest -> RE: AFV and airframe production & Pool (10/11/2017 3:10:40 PM)

EricV

Thanks for the commentary and advice. Let me address Corps in this message. Below is where my unit counts by type and size.

to your point, I do need more corps, but I do want enough unit density too

quote:

ORIGINAL: ericv

you need to start building rifle corps.




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topeverest -> RE: AFV and airframe production & Pool (10/11/2017 4:05:31 PM)

I am going to ride out a few turns without building anything other than some corps and see if I can inch up trucks to positive.

At about 5300 trucks added per turn and me not on the offensive, I should gain 2-4K per turn. time will tell on that test.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ericv

I am not sure how many mech and tank corps you have. But you can have too many. These guys will also eat up your trucks.





topeverest -> Turn 83 January 14, 1943 (10/15/2017 12:25:12 AM)

Same themes continue - Germany attacking only in a few locations. Russia not attacking.

1 - Germany takes north Moscow hex in heavy fighting.
2 - German attacks continue towards Stalingrad with minor successes
3 - German shifts axis of attack south of Rostov to SW, drives moderate success
4 - German air force almost non existent
5 - Russia gets bountiful new guard units
6 - Russia begins building corps now that they cost only 10 APs




topeverest -> RE: Turn 83 Souther Battlefield (10/15/2017 12:26:42 AM)

There always is the risk of a breakout, but I don't see follow-on forces in his two attacks actually broke out. His MLR is stretched pretty thin.



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topeverest -> Russian Plans with AP's (10/15/2017 12:38:20 AM)

As hinted in previous posts - Russian Priorities are

1. Continue right sizing armies with the extra armies I built
2. build guard infantry corps
3. backfill unit density with newly built brigades
4. build support units - concentrate on heavy armor and building out SUU's for corps for direct attachment
5. Continue to nurse trucks until they are positive
6. build more bombers




topeverest -> Turn 84 Jan 21, 1943 (10/21/2017 6:49:18 PM)

Same themes. not much to report new.

Germany had greater than expected success and cuts first Caucuses rail line. That said, the enemy is expose to a flank attack from the west.



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topeverest -> RE: Turn 85 Jan 28, 1943 (10/22/2017 1:12:24 AM)

German themes continue, with very limited success.

Russia pushes up the southwestern approaches to Rostov
Russia begins to test enemy MLR with some success
Russia continues its AP plan of building brigades to facilitate building more guard corps44

Russian trucks steadily rising since 43 started. Currently at 119 (137) and gaining about 3K per turn.




topeverest -> Combat update (10/22/2017 1:24:56 PM)

Here is the updated map.

Of interest is the Soviet Attack NE towards Rostov enveloping the German thrust SE into the Caucuses. It will be one to watch for sure.

I am still somewhat confused why the enemy has dispersed his strength as such. Perhaps he is preparing defenses points west for the turning tide?



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topeverest -> More specifics on PLans (10/22/2017 1:43:16 PM)

AS discussed previously, My goal is to launch a concerted strategic counterattack with the summer season in a TBD location. Here is what I am doing to prepare.

1. I have 37 armored corps (5 Guard) - no immediate plans to build anymore. Putting heavy armor SU regiment, anti tank, and Sapper regiment in each corps, but probably wont be complete by summer.
2. I have 82 Guard infantry divisions, enough for 41 more guard infantry corps! BUT - I need to build units to replace the density (which is what I am doing now). Each of these guard infantry corps units will have regular armor regiment SU - anti tank - and sapper. Keep in mind 41 corps will take 82 units off the map. SO I cant just do that. Also - the unit mix limit for guard units may work to my favor as I will reduce the number of guard units relative to the number of total units. Or so the theory goes.
3. As previously stated, I FUBAR'd my army sizes and had to right size them. 10 new armies are on the field, and this also is a priority.
4. As a gauge, I have 250k pooled manpower, so I am not worried about building a few units.
5. I am still concerned about my vehicles / trucks. I am up to 119K (137). Note the second number does vary over time and has been as low as (120).
6. I have no plans to build mech or motorize units this year, which might be a big mistake. But my assumption is that I need those guard corps in action so I can make progress against the enemy. time will tell if I need to make mech or convert to motorized. But I have no trucks to execute the plan this year anyway. Finlly, the units I am building are very low truck consumers...I know that creating corps will gobble up trucks...


Please advise, but I see no other way to make progress. The guard infantry (and later motorized) corps seem to be the vehicle...





topeverest -> Turn 86 February 4 1943 (10/27/2017 12:53:14 AM)

Major themes continue.

1. Germany pulls back from the SE push from Rostov to bolster defenses on extreme western part of Caucuses where Russians were having material success. This move effectively ends the Russian opportunity, but the objective was achieved - the SW-NE railroad is back in Russian hands
2. heavy attritional fighting on the Don opposing Stalingrad
3. Germans moving to forces to attempt again to take last hex of Moscow. Russian forces attack north of the city against heavy resistance and take a few hexes.
4. Russian trucks up to 122K
5. Russia continues on AP plan




topeverest -> AP plan details (10/27/2017 12:54:22 AM)

Not sure I will build all the units lost in building the 41 new guard infantry corps.

note the plan is through June 3...anyway this is how I am thinking of preparing for summer offensive. Location TBD



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topeverest -> RE: AP plan outcome (10/27/2017 12:59:05 AM)

So what will I have for the summer offensive - - - -

52 guard infantry corps in 12 armies
37 armor corps (9 guard) in 10 armies

Hope that is enough because ------
NO Mechanized units
NO Motorized units




topeverest -> MOscow (10/27/2017 1:08:26 AM)

here is a view of the fighting

Men are fighting for inches on both sides.



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topeverest -> RE: Caucuses (10/27/2017 1:15:11 AM)

Russian attack yielded desired results!



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M60A3TTS -> RE: AP plan details (10/27/2017 12:09:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: topeverest

Not sure I will build all the units lost in building the 41 new guard infantry corps.

note the plan is through June 3...anyway this is how I am thinking of preparing for summer offensive. Location TBD



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+125AP on 20 May for arrival of Steppe Front.




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