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Stelteck -> RE: February 1943 (10/23/2017 7:28:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: STEF78 they are destroyed like on map units but come back for free AP Hopefully, but training a guard heavy tank regiment from 15 to 65xp is quite long [X(]

STEF78 -> February 1943 (10/24/2017 8:11:19 PM)
Turn 89, 25th february 1943 As said Stalin, quantity is a quality by itself. Losses are not relevant for the soviet army. German line is strong but won't hold next week. [img]https://i.imgur.com/4IN4bTH.jpg[/img] But crossing the Cauucasus when opponents are on the other side of the moutain is dangerous. [img]https://i.imgur.com/tVjSd22.jpg[/img] 2 more tank corps destroyed. I don't like their number... 30th and 31th ... [img]https://i.imgur.com/4VykfOx.jpg[/img] and usual fights west of Saratov [img]https://i.imgur.com/2VW1kcs.jpg[/img]

BrianG -> more tanks near Baku. (10/24/2017 9:58:22 PM)
forget the lower Volga area, he cant stage that far from supply. And clearly you need these tanks near Baku, asap

STEF78 -> March 1943 (10/25/2017 7:26:37 PM)
Turn 90, 4th march 1943 quote: ORIGINAL: BrianG forget the lower Volga area, he cant stage that far from supply. And clearly you need these tanks near Baku, asap You're right General BrianG. Reinforcements are on the road. They will arrive within 10 days. [img]https://i.imgur.com/6uptadH.jpg[/img] Several attacks north of Baku. We have to give some ground. [img]https://i.imgur.com/H9yBZVV.jpg[/img] But we immediatly counterattack [img]https://i.imgur.com/8OcM4hE.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> March 1943 (10/26/2017 8:00:50 PM)
Turn 91, 11th march 1943 I wish I had taken Baku or at least cut the rail... russians are on the offensive near Sochi too. With 2 german inf divs and a romanan mountain div, I feel safe. Italian units are really weak. [img]https://i.imgur.com/Ll8Kuam.jpg[/img] North of Baku, bloodbath... and russian artillery is stronger week after week... [img]https://i.imgur.com/3W0MCTG.jpg[/img] ... Pzk are not yet arrived but german infantry and fighters fought well! [img]https://i.imgur.com/NQv0P5y.jpg[/img] north of Stalingrad, heavy attack of russian tank corps. More than 1700 involved in this battle. Fortunatly, reserve activation worked well. [img]https://i.imgur.com/oDWMKNr.jpg[/img] And near Tambov. I really like smashing guards rifle corps! [img]https://i.imgur.com/WD10gIy.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> March 1943 (10/27/2017 6:39:39 PM)
Turn 92, 18th march 1943 Mud season is close now, russians doesn't seem to be able to launch a major offensive yet. That's fine! Some ground given South of Sochi. With the mountains, I will be able to prevent any significant russian advance. [img]https://i.imgur.com/AdGVYIl.jpg[/img] Main battle place is now eastern Caucasus. arrival of the 48th Pzk changed the result of the battle... [img]https://i.imgur.com/TymFW16.jpg[/img] ... and we counterattack [img]https://i.imgur.com/nTR1Bz9.jpg[/img] 2nd huge AFV battle north of Stalingrad. [img]https://i.imgur.com/l4sbI39.jpg[/img] Some attacks in the Tambov area. [img]https://i.imgur.com/0dmEzrf.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> March 1943 (10/30/2017 9:59:04 AM)
Turn 93, 25th march 1943 Weather will be hotter next week, mud is scheduled. Grinding is on South of Sochi [img]https://i.imgur.com/s3CT4Os.jpg[/img] Heavy fights north of Baku. 48th Pzk and Jagers hold the line. Russian artillery is really impressive. [img]https://i.imgur.com/HIo8XVX.jpg[/img] North of Tambov, a strong attack in order to show that no russian stack is safe [img]https://i.imgur.com/kipIytH.jpg[/img] And the victory points at this stage [img]https://i.imgur.com/30GUDFe.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> Spring mud 1943 (10/31/2017 8:50:23 PM)
Winter 1942/1943 is over, time for rest for both armies during mud season. This winter allowed me to clear the lower Volga and thus to free several corps But Stelteck is now creating red army 2.0. lots of rifle corps appeared during the past weeks, russian artillery is able to gather 5000 guns on a single attack and he has created more than 30 tank corps... Pressure is increasing north of Baku and it required the arrival of a Pzk to stabilize the frontline. On my side german infantry is weaker but most divs are around 15k men which is still good and I have very strong pzd/mot units. Some of them are set on strategic reserve in the stalingrad area waiting for the main axes of russian attacks early may. News are bad in Tunisia and Italian units should be sent back home. Allied bombing of Germany are another problem. Several of our best fighters group will be sent back home during the next weeks. We have been ordered to be on the offensive during summer 1943... Why not trying a giant Pocket around Tambov? [img]https://i.imgur.com/8ZPKuuT.jpg[/img]

chaos45 -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (10/31/2017 9:18:18 PM)
Soviets have a long road to berlin--but the tide is for sure turned at this point. Soviet Artillery tubes/airforce will slowly become more and more of a force multiplier. You can already see the effects of more soviet artillery tubes showing in that even when Germans win attacks they often take more losses than the retreating soviet units. also soviet light tanks will start to phase out for all T34s not a huge force multiplier but another slight bonus lol. Just be careful not to try and hold to much to long---seems to be when the Germans suffer huge reversal encirclement's in 43/44 in most play throughs.

STEF78 -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/1/2017 7:42:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chaos45 ... Just be careful not to try and hold to much to long... Should I stay or should I go? The answer at this question will give me headaches during the next weeks... Just for fun, russian partisans are really active at the moment. Just an example below. I know that Leningrad isn't well garrisoned but I don't have enough security units and the others are required on the frontline. [img]https://i.imgur.com/rFAyamD.jpg[/img]

SparkleyTits -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/1/2017 8:53:49 PM)
Oh wow that partisan action is unrelenting!

Stelteck -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/1/2017 9:28:50 PM)
Too sad it is not usefull at all as there is now multiple redundant railroad lines [:D]

Telemecus -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/2/2017 12:10:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Stelteck Too sad it is not usefull at all as there is now multiple redundant railroad lines [:D] I was wondering at that level could there come a point when even multiple redundant lines get overwhelmed?

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/2/2017 12:44:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Telemecus quote: ORIGINAL: Stelteck Too sad it is not usefull at all as there is now multiple redundant railroad lines [:D] I was wondering at that level could there come a point when even multiple redundant lines get overwhelmed? If Germans garrisoned, no. Even if the Germans don't garrison I would say no. There was an AAR, I don't remember the German that left everything ungarrisoned to give him/her credit, and he didn't seem to have an issue with supply. Partisans are just eye candy and I personally don't waste time on them in WITE now.

bigbaba -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 8:43:38 AM)
I agree with that. In my game as the Wehrmacht i have a lot of Partisan attacks but face no supply problems at all.

Stelteck -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 9:08:23 AM)
Partisan still saved moscow in summer 1941, even if they are not so usefull in 1943.

jjdenver -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 10:04:18 AM)
Why are the Germans in the line of swamps north of Astrakhan? I haven't played so this is a newbie question but it's the second time I've seen it. Is it for defensive purposes? Camo from air recon? Better supply? Something else? Usually in games I keep my units out of swamps not in them. Also you mentioned that Soviet army 2.0 has been created. Is this something that just happens naturally as the game progresses into 43 or are there actions that the Soviet player has to take to make this happen? If so what does the Soviet player need to be doing to get his army upgraded into "2.0"?

Stelteck -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 12:23:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jjdenver Also you mentioned that Soviet army 2.0 has been created. Is this something that just happens naturally as the game progresses into 43 or are there actions that the Soviet player has to take to make this happen? If so what does the Soviet player need to be doing to get his army upgraded into "2.0"? A soviet army 2.0 is an army composed of corps, cavalry corps, tank corps, rifle corps. You can built them at different dates from existing divisions&brigades and even create new one. (see http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2882717).

timmyab -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 12:56:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: STEF78 Why not trying a giant Pocket around Tambov? Be careful - walls have ears. I would probably be thinking about a limited offensive as well. I know where too but I wont say any more in case the walls are listening [:D] PM me if you want the details. quote: Why are the Germans in the line of swamps north of Astrakhan? This will be defensive in nature I would guess. It's a superb defensive position which you could hardly design to be stronger than it is. The capture of the marshes to the West of the Volga are an important part of an Axis 1942 Southern strategy, forcing the Soviets from the Eastern marshes is a bonus. This position should hold now until next Winter at the earliest unless it gets flanked.

Stelteck -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 1:22:32 PM)
I'am s�re the Tambov leak was propaganda to divert my armies from their current glorious offensive !!! [:D]

STEF78 -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 7:39:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jjdenver Why are the Germans in the line of swamps north of Astrakhan? I haven't played so this is a newbie question but it's the second time I've seen it. Is it for defensive purposes? Camo from air recon? Better supply? Something else? Usually in games I keep my units out of swamps not in them. Once you hold Astrakhan and have cut the rail east of Stalingrad, this position is very strong. You get the benefits of swamp as defensive position and russians are too far from their supply source.

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 8:13:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: STEF78 quote: ORIGINAL: jjdenver Why are the Germans in the line of swamps north of Astrakhan? I haven't played so this is a newbie question but it's the second time I've seen it. Is it for defensive purposes? Camo from air recon? Better supply? Something else? Usually in games I keep my units out of swamps not in them. Once you hold Astrakhan and have cut the rail east of Stalingrad, this position is very strong. You get the benefits of swamp as defensive position and russians are too far from their supply source. The Southern road to Victory is a long one.

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 8:26:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Stelteck Partisan still saved moscow in summer 1941, even if they are not so usefull in 1943. This is an outlier that rarely if ever happens. In 41 I garrison as much as possible to alleviate such an occurrence. Once you have the first redundancy down it becomes easier and partisans are nothing more than eye candy. Not to mention I believe your were dropping some high octane vodka to these Partisans because they not only did one hex on demolition but "many".

STEF78 -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 8:26:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain The Southern road to Victory is a long one. The Southern road to Victory is a wrong(?) one.

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 8:27:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain quote: ORIGINAL: Stelteck Partisan still saved moscow in summer 1941, even if they are not so usefull in 1943. This is an outlier that rarely if ever happens. In 41 I garrison as much as possible to alleviate such an occurrence. Once you have the first redundancy down it becomes easier and partisans are nothing more than eye candy. Not to mention I believe your were dropping some high octane vodka to these Partisans because they not only did one hex on demolition but "many". Your partisans were so drunk that if it looked like a long slender pole on the ground they blew it up! ;-P

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 8:29:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: STEF78 quote: ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain The Southern road to Victory is a long one. The Southern road to Victory is a wrong(?) one. No. Nothing wrong with the Southern road. It isnt my favorite

HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Spring mud 1943 (11/3/2017 8:30:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain quote: ORIGINAL: STEF78 quote: ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain The Southern road to Victory is a long one. The Southern road to Victory is a wrong(?) one. No. Nothing wrong with the Southern road. It isnt my favorite basically you can get the Sourthern Germans to retreat without ever doing anything in the south if done correctly ;)

STEF78 -> May 1943 (11/3/2017 8:40:01 PM)
Turn 100, 15th may 1943 Russians are very confident near Baku. They even launched an unsuccessfull attack during mud. They also tried to advance through the moutains... [img]https://i.imgur.com/xg7VwBd.jpg[/img] North of Stalingrad, I sent back some russian units. [img]https://i.imgur.com/F9Iplj9.jpg[/img] Same work west of Saratov [img]https://i.imgur.com/XVyTa6X.jpg[/img] Recon has shown a strong russian conentration near Ryazan. I reinforced the area with the Pzd (16=50) coming from Moscow. [img]https://i.imgur.com/pyi66SJ.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> May 1943 (11/7/2017 6:53:28 PM)
Turn 101, 13th may 1943 Spring russian offensive is on. At the moment it's not decisive but pressure will increase week after week. Near Sochi, our troops blocked their advance [img]https://i.imgur.com/AFniZhe.jpg[/img] Same heroic resistance north of Baku [img]https://i.imgur.com/VQHv9om.jpg[/img] Reserve activation works well but isn't decisive against multiple attacks. [img]https://i.imgur.com/YEfYoNd.jpg[/img] As scheduled, heavy russian attack near Ryazan [img]https://i.imgur.com/6scCVfw.jpg[/img]

STEF78 -> May 1943 (11/9/2017 7:08:39 PM)
Turn 102, 27th may 1943 Near Baku, strong russian attacks, the line holds! But I will give some ground where entrenchements are too low. [img]https://i.imgur.com/wetyX07.jpg[/img] Very disapointed west of Saratov. I found an art div alone and was able to attack it twice. Losses are desesperatly low. [img]https://i.imgur.com/4nRWYW3.jpg[/img] Heavy counterattack west of Ryazan. German army has teeth and claws. I'm able to gather 1600 AFV to show that it will not be easy to break the frontline [img]https://i.imgur.com/6scCVfw.jpg[/img]

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