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STEF78 -> RE: August 1942 (9/3/2017 4:28:03 PM)

Sometimes, german army admit that russian tanks are better and uses them. Unfortunatly, production isn't reliable...

[img]https://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/289140fun.jpg[/img]



Stelteck -> RE: August 1942 (9/3/2017 4:32:10 PM)

My T-70. It is the best light tank ever. (At least a 45mm gun).

They also stole 16 Panhard P204 from the french !!! The crimes of the german army have no limit.



boudi -> RE: August 1942 (9/6/2017 2:03:57 PM)

And you can add 62 Czech LT vz. 38 (7 damaged inclued) in your count. A very good tank in the late 30'years, much better than a PzII with its Škoda A7 37,2 mm. A present from Daladier and Chamberlain to Germany. [:D]



STEF78 -> August 1942 (9/7/2017 5:58:29 AM)

Turn 62, 20th august 1942

First attempt to cross the Volga failed. I do a second attempt closer from Saratov and managed to cut the rail line.

And southern Stalingrad has Fallen!

[img]https://i.imgur.com/DkTBL83.jpg[/img]

In the South, we do some progress in our attempt to cross the mountains. Italians Alpini are close from cutting Tuapse-Batumi rail line

[img]https://i.imgur.com/qtxcH4R.jpg[/img]



STEF78 -> Soviet strikes back! (9/10/2017 8:12:31 AM)

Turn 63, 27 august 1942

Bad news! I was rather confident with my bridgehead over the Volga. But russian army is now able to counterattack with power and intensity.

One of these attacks invoved more than 2000 russian AFV!

[img]https://i.imgur.com/YTVidpy.jpg[/img]

I have to engage 3 full Pzk to rescue the units trapped. On the other side, he cannot be strong everywhere and Stalingrad is taken.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/7Irjplj.jpg[/img]

Russian AFV losses are impressive but it's not an issue for the red army

[img]https://i.imgur.com/GZURU47.jpg[/img]

In the South, I'm 20 miles short from cutting the rail line and I will be unable to achieve this goal. It means that all ports of the Black sea will remain under supply. I will have to clear some of them! (all if possible)

[img]https://i.imgur.com/r7kIaLC.jpg[/img]



BrianG -> vc290 (9/11/2017 11:50:41 AM)

are you playing vc 290?

If so, you need to clear a few ports, clear the Crimea and then launch all out attack in 1943. Direction to be determined by future events.

Love the action!



STEF78 -> RE: vc290 (9/12/2017 7:46:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BrianG

are you playing vc 290?

If so, you need to clear a few ports, clear the Crimea and then launch all out attack in 1943. Direction to be determined by future events.

Love the action!

We are playing bitter end.... so I cannot achieve a decisive victory before ... 1945. It will be a long long time.

At the moment I have taken all cities awarding VP except Baku and Sevastopol. Baku cannot be taken and Sevastopol doesn't give lots of points, but I will try to take it

[img]https://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/338759stelvp.jpg[/img]





aldiladeisogni1 -> RE: vc290 (9/13/2017 10:40:27 AM)

We are playing bitter end.... so I cannot achieve a decisive victory before ... 1945. It will be a long long time.

You are SURE? It's not enough to have a 5: 1



STEF78 -> RE: vc290 (9/13/2017 8:33:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: aldiladeisogni1

We are playing bitter end.... so I cannot achieve a decisive victory before ... 1945. It will be a long long time.

You are SURE? It's not enough to have a 5: 1

sure, result is at the end of turn 225



STEF78 -> September 1942 (9/13/2017 8:44:59 PM)

Turn 64, 3rd september 1942

Obviously, Volga is the Nostepback line for the soviets. We are facing strong counterattacks.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/6AA9tV6.jpg[/img]

I decide to drive north to Saratov. I also try to extend the buffer in front of Stalingrad

[img]https://i.imgur.com/z0oyreY.jpg[/img]

Offensive to Baku is resumed but russian line of defence is well established. The rail line won't be cut [:(]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/PcBAPWT.jpg[/img]



STEF78 -> September 1942 (9/13/2017 8:48:28 PM)

Clearing of black sea ports is on. Novorossisk is taken.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/NeL27fm.jpg[/img]

and the next target: Crimea

[img]https://i.imgur.com/oq1lHSm.jpg[/img]



aldiladeisogni1 -> RE: vc290 (9/14/2017 10:07:46 AM)

ok



aldiladeisogni1 -> RE: September 1942 (9/17/2017 6:07:08 PM)

To take the crimea how many troops do you plan to engage?



STEF78 -> RE: September 1942 (9/17/2017 8:45:17 PM)

I will try to do it with 2 pzk and an inf corps




STEF78 -> September 1942 (9/17/2017 8:58:20 PM)

Turn 65, 10th september 1942

Stelteck seems to be wanting to fight for Tuapse. I have a full german inf corps in this area. It should be enough.

I also reassign some mountain units to the eastern part of the Caucasus

[img]https://i.imgur.com/12mCbu2.jpg[/img]

A closer view, russian defences are strong...

[img]https://i.imgur.com/12mCbu2.jpg[/img]

Some advance in the Stalingrad area

[img]https://i.imgur.com/XuidefP.jpg[/img]

And I try to isolate Saratov.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/OnxfoCh.jpg[/img]



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: September 1942 (9/18/2017 2:53:11 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: STEF78


A closer view, russian defences are strong...

[img]https://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/307172stel65caucasus2.jpg[/img]



Hmmmmmmm, for 42 with Corps defense should be higher imho. Or maybe it is just me.



Stelteck -> RE: September 1942 (9/18/2017 7:27:53 AM)

I pledged to create as few infantry corps as possible in 1942 as it is twice the price of 1943. So i'am defending with mostly divisions yet.




aldiladeisogni1 -> RE: September 1942 (9/18/2017 12:19:38 PM)

Defeating and entering in Crimea will not be difficult,
but in my opinion, taking sebastopoli will not be easy without mountain troops.



aldiladeisogni1 -> RE: September 1942 (9/18/2017 12:26:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Stelteck

I pledged to create as few infantry corps as possible in 1942 as it is twice the price of 1943. So i'am defending with mostly divisions yet.




You can create 1 corp every turn?



Stelteck -> RE: September 1942 (9/18/2017 1:37:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: aldiladeisogni1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Stelteck

I pledged to create as few infantry corps as possible in 1942 as it is twice the price of 1943. So i'am defending with mostly divisions yet.




You can create 1 corp every turn?


I have 60 PP per turn, in 1942, an infantry corps cost 20pp, a tank corps cost 20pp+XP reduction, a cavalry corps cost 5pp, a mechanized corps 20pp+XP reduction.

If we take into account the price of sub-elements :

Tank corps, mechanized corps and cavalry corps cost 35PP in 1942, but infantry corps cost minimum 45.
In 1943, infantry corps will cost 35 as other corps.

So in theory, to answer your question, in 1942 i could create 3 infantry, mechanized or tank corps per turn if i use existing divisions/brigades and do nothing else with my PP.




aldiladeisogni1 -> RE: September 1942 (9/18/2017 2:12:40 PM)



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I have 60 PP per turn, in 1942, an infantry corps cost 20pp, a tank corps cost 20pp+XP reduction, a cavalry corps cost 5pp, a mechanized corps 20pp+XP reduction.

If we take into account the price of sub-elements :

Tank corps, mechanized corps and cavalry corps cost 35PP in 1942, but infantry corps cost minimum 45.
In 1943, infantry corps will cost 35 as other corps.

So in theory, to answer your question, in 1942 i could create 3 infantry, mechanized or tank corps per turn if i use existing divisions/brigades and do nothing else with my PP.


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Thank you for your answer .



STEF78 -> September 1942 (9/20/2017 9:17:57 PM)

Turn 66, 17th september 1942

We are now in the second part of september and time of fast advance in the Caucasus is over. But we maintain some pressure.
We begin to clear Tuapse and our troops are now ready for the offensive against Crimea.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/5KllSQg.jpg[/img]

Some progress in eastern Caucasus. Very surprised not to be facing a single rifle corps yet. They could easily block such a bottleneck.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/cyvRSud.jpg[/img]

Lake Elton is reached, Stalingrad is 40 miles behind the frontline!

[img]https://i.imgur.com/hTgNqg3.jpg[/img]

Nothing decisive near Saratov. I failed to achieve an encirclement.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/3WI5l6a.jpg[/img]



STEF78 -> September 1942 (9/22/2017 9:36:52 PM)

Turn 67, 24th september 1942

3 weeks before mud. No more time to lose to clear the black sea coast

In Crimea, I'm rather Lucky. Against a rifle corps, I wouldn't have been able to break the frontline.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/FmQNHih.jpg[/img]

The first attempt to take Tuapse failed but fort level is now below 1.

[[img]https://i.imgur.com/E53GcJF.jpg[/img]

Progress is more and more difficult in eastern Caucasus. I really don't like the 90 defensive CV....

[img]https://i.imgur.com/ol7LTlY.jpg[/img]



STEF78 -> September 1942 (9/22/2017 9:43:59 PM)

Some weak mobile units crossed the lower Volga, they had to retreat ... 3 tank corps against a romanian div....

[img]https://i.imgur.com/XcJB7Yx.jpg[/img]

We continue to progress north east of Stalingrad

[img]https://i.imgur.com/JOzvt8Q.jpg[/img]

I'm not strong enough to earn more ground in front of Saratov

[img]https://i.imgur.com/4e7RVM2.jpg[/img]



STEF78 -> October 1942 (9/24/2017 10:28:49 AM)

Turn 68, 1st october 1942

September is over, weather begins to be less sunny...

In crimea, great surprise! our troops met a new annoying soviet unit: a rifle corps. Dig in in woods with level 4 forts... hard nut!
We don't have enough inf units in this area to force it to retreat. Sevastopol won't be taken soon.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/ytldEfd.jpg[/img]

Slow progress in eastern Caucasus.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/BKLp6is.jpg[/img]

Tank fights east of Stalingrad. We have identified the 32nd russian tank corps. No rifle corps means lots of tank corps. I wonder how is Stelteck truck pool right now...

[img]https://i.imgur.com/oHkt3H3.jpg[/img]

Usual non decisive fights around Saratov.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/YQHYpby.jpg[/img]



Stelteck -> RE: October 1942 (9/24/2017 11:57:38 AM)

I was forced to create a handfull of rifle corps to defend sebastopol&cie although i did not like. Congratulation.

I can tell the truck situation i do not think it is so important to be kept secret.

I'am still in positive truck situation (but barely) at the time of the AAR. But i expect the mud and the winter to destroy a lots of truck and put me in negative.
But i also have great hope in the new truck supply from the united states starting beginning of 1943.




HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: October 1942 (9/24/2017 12:22:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Stelteck

I was forced to create a handfull of rifle corps to defend sebastopol&cie although i did not like. Congratulation.

I can tell the truck situation i do not think it is so important to be kept secret.

I'am still in positive truck situation (but barely) at the time of the AAR. But i expect the mud and the winter to destroy a lots of truck and put me in negative.
But i also have great hope in the new truck supply from the united states starting beginning of 1943.




Send your air force to reserve (ones you don't need) and put units in static mode to save on trucks if you are that worried during mud and winter. Like I have always said trucks are something you nurture from the first counter moved as a Soviet turn 1. You can "never" have too many.



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: October 1942 (9/24/2017 12:28:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: STEF78

Turn 68, 1st october 1942

September is over, weather begins to be less sunny...

In crimea, great surprise! our troops met a new annoying soviet unit: a rifle corps. Dig in in woods with level 4 forts... hard nut!
We don't have enough inf units in this area to force it to retreat. Sevastopol won't be taken soon.





hahahahhahahahahahaaha, Stef you made me laugh so hard when I read this ;)

I see Stelteck is getting off of his "cheap" binge on AP's. I understand where he is coming from but losing key areas is worse than the few points spent on AP's on Rifle Corps used to stop losing these areas.



bigbaba -> RE: October 1942 (9/24/2017 3:32:08 PM)

i really like this game. so much action, attacks and counter attacks and a lot of hot spots along the entire southern front.




Telemecus -> RE: October 1942 (9/24/2017 3:35:05 PM)

I'd like to add to bigbaba's comments. I've been following silently but there have been some real nail biting turns and an incredible scenario as the Soviets hold on to a thin ring from Crimea to Baku, and the Axis within as little as 10 miles everywhere but just on the edge of logistics.

One question - has there ever been a person versus person game, ideally with an AAR, that has ever taken Baku?



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