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WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/22/2017 4:00:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

No point in holding on to Minsk, I'd say. Get back behind the Berezina.


It can only move a single hex, due to low MP. It'll last longer inside Minsk. [:o]




Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/22/2017 3:10:19 PM)

To: General Armii Drakken
From : Stavka Glavnogo Komandovaniya

June 28th, 1941

Commander, I will trust your better judgement here. But it is bad news indeed. Better not alert Stalin of this just right away... As mention before, you have operational and tactical freedom until further notice.




WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/22/2017 6:54:21 PM)

We have wallas as a Replacement, should anyone be AWOL.

However, would you be open to invite him as Air Force Commander instead?




Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/22/2017 9:13:34 PM)

Yes, its in the progress, Iv received 5 different PM from 5 different person about that -_- haha




Psych0 -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/23/2017 5:24:02 AM)

OK I did the South turn. Not a very good opening by the Krauts in the south, I was able to isolate all 7 panzer/mot divisions. So I decided not to run away yet, also because Rumania stays out of the war next turn still. Furthermore, I took the liberty to rail 5th Mech Corps from Shepetovka area to Vitebsk/VL area as I don't need it in the south and it'll be needed for Leningrad or Moscow defense.




Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/23/2017 2:25:44 PM)

Sounds good commander.

Congrats on isolating his fast division !!



General Armii Drakken

You have been given command of the 5th Mech Corps. Use them as reserve for the defense of Moscow.




thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/23/2017 6:21:15 PM)

The Red Navy did a fine job of transporting isolated units from the Baltic coast to Leningrad, from whence they will redeploy to the Pskov/Narva/Vitebsk front to defeat and repel the fascist invaders. All air units have been redeployed behind the line of resistance. 8th Army remains isolated in southern Lithuania and General Sobennikov is honored to announce that every soldier in the Army, including himself, is ready to give their lives to defend the homeland of world socialism by delaying follow-up units for the German XXXXI Panzer Corps, similarly isolated to their north around Riga. 5th Airborne Corps has formed a skirmish line in eastern Lithuania to prevent any exploitation towards the main line of resistance by the fascists south of the southern Dvina line.

OK, so don't show this part to the vozhd: I could use some reinforcements up here, but I don't know what became of our rail cap. Next turn, we should be able to move reinforcement units freely (there can be no movement of factories until turn 3, I think). Like there's a mech corps down around Krasnodar, a rifle corps near Cherkassy, and some units from the North Caucasus Front that are mobile and could be redeployed to the front if we had rail cap to move them. I'd like to have a line of actual combat units along the Luga to Novgorod and then south from Lake Ilmen along the river/swamp line to Velikie Luki (that's the real main line of resistance). I'd also like some real units for 7th Independent Army north of Lake Ladoga along the line of the river and Lake Janisjarvi there. If we can keep the Finns from turning the corner they will be basically impotent. I used a couple of AP to reassign units to different armies; this will be needed next turn as well, especially when 8th Army gets wiped out. I don't know if destroyed armies are reborn like divisions?

(edit) Which is to say, I'm done with my part of the turn. I suggest that our fearless leader should be the one to declare the turn over and run the Axis logistics phase, then save the game to the Dropbox for our fascist opponents.

I didn't do anything with the air force other than send the planes from the isolated air bases back to national reserve. If we have an air commander, he may want to go through all the air bases before any movement has taken place and send squadrons with really low morale or high fatigue or very few planes back to national reserve. Otherwise we front commanders can do it for our bases before we start moving them next turn. If the Axis has managed to not overrun them all.




Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/23/2017 11:58:22 PM)

Sounds good. Although you said you didnt need any AP and now you used some so it ****s around a bit with the planning..

How many exactly did you used ? I keep a tab of everything on paper here.

Wallas is our new air commander, he will be in charge of everything air related, including paratroopers.




WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/24/2017 12:37:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

General Armii Drakken

You have been given command of the 5th Mech Corps. Use them as reserve for the defense of Moscow.


To: Chief of Staff Neogodhobo, STAVKA, Moscow
From: General of the Army Drakken, Central Front, Smolensk


We acknowledge the order and request proposals from STAVKA on how to prepare the defence of the Moscow area - whether we set up a ring of defensive measures around the city, or inside the city itself instead.




Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/24/2017 1:13:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Drakken


quote:

ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

General Armii Drakken

You have been given command of the 5th Mech Corps. Use them as reserve for the defense of Moscow.


To: Chief of Staff Neogodhobo, STAVKA, Moscow
From: General of the Army Drakken, Central Front, Smolensk


We acknowledge the order and request proposals from STAVKA on how to prepare the defence of the Moscow area - whether we set up a ring of defensive measures around the city, or inside the city itself instead.



I am currently preparing new plans. Plan proposal will arrive shortly, possibly tomorrow or the day after.




thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/24/2017 1:39:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

Sounds good. Although you said you didnt need any AP and now you used some so it ****s around a bit with the planning..

How many exactly did you used ? I keep a tab of everything on paper here.

Wallas is our new air commander, he will be in charge of everything air related, including paratroopers.


Probably one or two. Sorry.

At some point, there will have to be a big shuffling of armies. We can wait a bit, though. The dead units will be resurrected back in Siberia but I think each one will cost us some AP, so there will be a shortage for several turns.




thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/24/2017 2:27:17 AM)

As far as paratroopers are concerned, we aren't going to be making any paradrops anytime soon because they have to have experience of 45 or something like that. Plus the Germans have air superiority right now. I was using mine as speedbumps...er...infantry.




Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/24/2017 7:06:29 PM)

Yeah exactly, paratroopers are going to be infantry, but they now belong to Wallas, air commander.




Psych0 -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/24/2017 8:44:33 PM)

Maybe I missed something but a few questions for my clarity:
1. Does Wallas control all air now or only Stavka air? I moved mine already this turn. Building and assigning air units too I suppose.
2. How do we prevent more than 1 commander doing their turn at the same time? Is there a pre-set order we do the turns in? For example, Centre => South => North => air => Stavka
3. Only neo moves Stavka units?
4. Can we agree on a max number of units on refit per ground commander? No more than 5 I'd say.
5. Who does the industry evac?
6. How do we use our rail cap?




Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/24/2017 8:59:10 PM)

1- Yes along with paratrooper units.
2- Pre-set are like this : Sup. Commander --) Air Commander --) Central --) Northern ---) Southern ---) Air Commander --) Sup. Commander
3- Yes ( although we could change this if someone is against that, I mean, I personally dont care either way )
4- Yes we can agree, just everyone let me know what you guys think is fair and we will settle for that.
5- I dont know who does the Industry evac, Iv been asking for an Industry leader since the first day. Maybe we can give this to the Air Commander, so itl be more things to do for him.
6- I dont know. Whats the max amount total in the game ? Divide this in 3 in that manner : 25% North / 45% South / 30% Center.




wallas -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/25/2017 1:41:42 AM)

Reporting in team and thanks for having me. If some air has already been moved due to my late joining it is fine. Also where do I download the turn file ?




thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/25/2017 2:28:02 AM)

You'll need to get into the Dropbox. I think Sparklytits is responsible for the Dropbox, PM him and get added.

I have already moved the airborne corps in the Northwest Front. I am guessing that they are going to be beaten up in the next Axis turn. My goal was to have them in the second rank of any future defense to slow breakthroughs.

I sent most air regiments that were below 45 morale or so back to national reserve. That seems like a good rule from my solitaire games.

Welcome to the game!

Stewart




thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/25/2017 2:53:52 AM)

Why do we want to limit the number of units on refit?




Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/25/2017 6:16:15 AM)

Alright guys, Wallas wanted to know how much AP he was allowed, so I will think about it and come back with an answer, and he wanted to know about his paratrooper ground unit, if he would be allowed to keep them all the way to Berlin, or if they were to be changed to Guard units. I leave this entirely up to ground commanders.

And sorry for my lack of Role playing in the messages as Stavka or Stalin, and to come up with a plan for next turn, Iv got a lot on my hands, Im leaving work on the 29th. Its been 6 months Iv been working every single day, and I got to prepare to go back home. I will also be absent from the 29th to the 6th October. (the time it take to drive back home )

I will leave a replacement while Im gone, and/or all information you need to do the turn that will occur during that time.
Thanks for understanding.




thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/25/2017 6:38:47 AM)

He should probably be creating new air regiments right from the start. At least four or five a turn. Seeing as half or more of our air force just got destroyed on the ground.




wallas -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/25/2017 9:36:53 PM)

I have PM SparkleyTits to be added to the dropbox so I can get the turn file.




wallas -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/26/2017 12:29:07 AM)

I would like to point out supreme commander that motorcycle support regiment's use a third more vehicles as infantry divisions. Disbanding these regiments would be prudent due to the shortage of cartage in the logistics pool and the air force will be needing all the vehicles it can muster.




WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/27/2017 2:21:52 PM)

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Vehicles?! Air force can use all the good, strong horses we have aplenty to accomplish just that. Is there anything horses cannot do?

Your request seems quite fatalistic, but I am sure that our Voyenno-Vozdushnye Sily will be accomplishing its duties despite the Fascist onslaught. We will reel their Luftwaffe back over Berlin!

[;)]




Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/27/2017 6:25:31 PM)

Alright guys, well, I gotta go back home, so Drakken will take over my position until I get back. Itl probably take a week or so. I gave him the basic instruction. and I will finish turn 1 today.




WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/28/2017 3:48:49 PM)

I was notified by SparkleyTits that the Axis are going through their T2 at blitzkrieg speed.

Kenchi should be done with his South sector tonight, we should expect our turn to arrive by tomorrow.

Let us work together to make it brisk this time.

1. For now, until ordered directly otherwise all Ground Commanders are instructed to continue implementing the plans provided by STAVKA for their respective sectors.
2. If, after review, SITREP on the battlefield makes the plan unworkable, present request. If approved, STAVKA will provide an alternative plan in concert with that Ground Commander
3. Axis movement capability is at their highest on T1, but also T2. Do not, under any circumstance, underestimate how lethal and dangerous the Germans panzer groups can be, even they seem still far away.

That is all for now.

General Armii Drakken
Commander Central Front
Deputy Supreme Commander, STAVKA




thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/29/2017 1:49:41 AM)

A couple of requests:

- My original plan to build a fortified line along the Luga in front of Leningrad is obviously not going to work due to lack of AP. I would like to substitute placing 15 divisions that need refit there and have them dig trenches. At least it will be something to slow the fascists down. This can be a STAVKA army or be assigned to Northern Front. It will need some Sappers, preferably two regiments.

- I will need two more armies on the front to hold my line. I will also need some rail capacity reserved for them. If they can't get there this turn, at least send enough divisions so I can get started digging in on my main line of resistance. I guess our rail cap is lower these first couple of turns.

- I will need about 10 AP to shift units between armies. I would also like to be able to create new support units in my armies. I would like each army to have a sapper regiment and a heavy gun regiment, and possibly also AA and AT units (I don't think we can build AT gun units yet). Each corps should have a corps artillery unit and a sapper battalion and an AT battalion when it becomes available.

- Has STAVKA gone through the rear area military districts and so forth and transferred the support units found there to the fighting fronts? And reduced the support level of those headquarters? If not, it should be done asap. There are a lot of good units back there and no reason they should sit there until the fascists come to Saratov or Ufa. We might also want to transfer the AA units from the cities to the fronts. I don't know if the Germans have been bombing our cities but I get the impression that mostly German players reserve their aerial firepower for Soviet units. That's where our AA should be deployed.




thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/29/2017 1:52:09 AM)

Also, is the air commander in charge of the air units assigned to the fronts? If so, I can let him know where I'm planning to retreat. If not, one thing I tend to do is send air regiments that have less than 40 or so morale back to national reserve. I hope to be able to get them back in a couple of turns once they've restored themselves with the vodka and nurses back in Chelyabinsk.




WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/29/2017 4:12:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

Also, is the air commander in charge of the air units assigned to the fronts? If so, I can let him know where I'm planning to retreat. If not, one thing I tend to do is send air regiments that have less than 40 or so morale back to national reserve. I hope to be able to get them back in a couple of turns once they've restored themselves with the vodka and nurses back in Chelyabinsk.


Aye. All airbases + Airborne units as well.

For your proposals, we will see how the Turn develops first. I do not have the power countermand the Supreme Commander's plans - only The Boss can.




wallas -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/29/2017 9:28:09 PM)

Doctorking para experience needs to be 40, and the brigades start at that.




WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 2:16:58 AM)

From: Deputy Chief of Staff Drakken, STAVKA, Smolensk
To: General of the Army thedoctorking, Northern Front; General of the Army psych0, Southern Front; General of the Air Force wallas, VVS Air Commander


The enemy has continued its vicious and unrelenting advance throughout all fronts. In the last four days since the start of the Hitlerite invasion of our Motherland, STAVKA reports losses of 183,712 casualties, 1907 guns, 1986 tanks and vehicles.

Our estimation of the Axis losses are 23,262 killed or wounded for 252 guns and 156 tanks and vehicles. More, there seems to be confusion among the Nazi allies: No movement from the Fascists allies on the Carpathian front. This proves a relief on our Southern Front that we must exploit.

Here are STAVKA's situation overview and instructions, for each Front. STAVKA will trust each ground commander will exercise common sense and refer themselves the NKO Directives when warranted. Disobedience and needless sacrifice of Soviet troops will lead to immediate arrest.

No STAVKA-controlled Army is allowed to remain idle while we defend the Motherland. However:

a) You are the respect each Ground Commander's sectors without any exception. Do NOT borrow troops of any kind without their written permission
b) Troops must be allocated to start building forts in Moscow and Leningrad - both East of Pavlovo and in Osinovets. Those hexes are #1 VITAL to buildup.
c) If you wish to be granted an Army that MIGHT be in someone else's Sector, make the request to me - and me only. My decision is final and without appeal.




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