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WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 2:20:56 AM)

North

The enemy has decided to go around Pskov and the Velikiya River by dividing its panzer forces by going North, while maintening pressure toward Pskov. Doing so, they has overtaken the swamps north of the city between the Pskov and Peipus lakes. This directly threatens the rear of the Northwestern Front troops in Pskov.

However, Defence of Pskov must be maintained for now, as surrendering this area too soon to the Fascists would be deadly for our forces in the North.

Orders are such:

1. ALL troops currently under Northwestern Front that still in the area of the Malta and the Dvina River, without exception, are to be rapatriated behind the Velikiya River at once.

2. The Pskov defence area's southern flank is to be limited to North of the Sorot River. No troops will be stationed south of this River, with exception of security NKVD Forces to block the enemy in good or very good defensive terrain.

3. Under no circumstances must the Velikaya MLR be weakened by removing troops. They MUST hold the line there.

4. All troops in Estonia, without exception, are to be rapatriated by railroad to create a front along the Pskov River swamp, and augment the Pskov defence area in and around Ostrov. If practicable, occupy the swamp areas in priority, as they are the worst terrain for enemy tank formations.

5. To protect the rear of the Pskov line of defence, swamp areas behind Pskov west of Porkhov are to be occupied by your strongest troops and built into strong points. They must be occupied at a minimum with the strongest Rifle Divisions available.

6. A SEC force will be allowed to remain in Tallinn to prevent an immediate takeover of the city.

7. 21th Mechanized Corps is to cover Velikiye Luki with 22th Army.

8. Northern Front command is allocated and permitted to move 11th Rifle (Vologda), 177th Rifle (Borovichi), and 41th Rifle Corps from Yaroslavl to the front.

9. The Finnish border is to be monitored for any signal that the Finns may declare war to the Soviet Union.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 2:35:14 AM)

South

Order is given to reoccupy the town of Cherktov and north of Chernovitsy. Doing so will allow to use the railroads and evacuate the Stanislav pocket right under the Nazis' noses through Proskurov.

Restablish the railroad connections toward the rear and empty this pocket with as much as you can. Highest priority is to given to Mountain troops and lowest to Security Divisions. We encourage to use Security Divisions to reoccupy those railroads to save your troops for evacuation.

Otherwise, the plan for Southern Sector as approved by STAVKA is still in full effect in the South. STAVKA will allocate the bulk of its railroad capacity to help evacuation in the South. Use as much railroad capacity as allocated to move troops to form the defensive line as instructed in the plan.

Be advised that I might request to transfer idle troops from Southern Front to buff up Central Front. If it is the case, Psych0 and I will decide together which.

All STAVKA or MD-controlled troops South of Kiev are available to be deployed by Southern Front. Explicitely forbidden are STAVKA or Orel MD troops around Chernigov, as they are to be sent to Centre Front.




WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 2:52:52 AM)

Air Force

All available airbases are to be rapatriated to the rear area of Pskov, Smolensk, Kiev, and the Dnepr River. Leave a healthy buffer of 120-200 km behind the lines to prevent exposing airbases to possible reinforcements.

Unless absolutely necessary, refrain from using railroads when moving airbases and HQs.

Airborne Regiments are to redeployed according to its Sector's instructions. If Airborne troops are already in position, leave it there unless permitted by the Ground Commander.

Recon efforts is to be made in priority to the Centre and the North.

Bomb any and all exposed Panzer or Motorized Division that are nearest our defence line - without mercy.

Enemy airbases are not to be bombed, as doing this so close from the enemy lines of supply will shred our bomber forces needlessly.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 3:09:50 AM)

Centre (To myself)

It seems part of the enemy motorized forced has veered north toward Velikiye Luki.

1. As per STAVKA order, 5th Mechanized Corps will be redirected east to Moscow as Reserve.

2. The enemy's panzers has reached Mogilev and the outskirts of the landbridge. Mogilev must be fought hard to defend from Axis forces. Troops will be sent to cover the River behind the Dnepr from Chernigov, including the woods and towns immedately behind the River.

3. The landline MLR is to hold the favourable ground. All STAVKA troops will reinforce that line, together with 1st and 7th Motorized Corps building strong points in Surazh, Rudnya, and Krasnoe. The Southern bank of the Dnepr will be occupied, but Smolensk is NOT to be left empty.

4. Half of 24th Army is to position itself along the upper Dnepr in front of Vyasma, to start building the first fallback line.

5. Pocketed troops are to try to cut or harass the Axis force's supply lines in Lida and Barovichi. Doing so should block all available fuel and supply lines to Axis panzers toward the Dnepr.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 3:19:02 AM)

Allocation

AP Points: 54

North: 14 (Request for increase in AP granted).
Centre: 20
South: 10
STAVKA: 10

Railroad Capacity: 63943

North: 10,000
Centre: 13,000
South: 30,000
STAVKA Reserve: 10,000



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 3:26:26 AM)

SupComStart file is on Dropbox. I had nothing to do on the map, we are at Turn 2 so no evacuation. Air Commander may proceed before I make my moves in the Centre.

Currently, STAVKA Railroad Cap and APs are to function as an Operational Reserve available to the three Fronts. I will not spend over 20 AP in the Centre, so the excess will be made available to other Fronts. Just ask for my permission first if you are to spend outside your allocation and tap into the Reserve.

Each Sector is encouraged to change one Army Commander. Just tell me who you want out, who you want in, and how much it would cost.




Psych0 -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 10:40:09 AM)

It would be good if we post here or somewhere as soon as each has done their turn. The auto email will then warn us. Not to lose time unnecessarily...



wallas -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 3:32:12 PM)

Ok will do my air turn now



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 7:32:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: wallas

Ok will do my air turn now


You got your guys behind our new front in the north? Remember that I have orders to hold the Sinyaya River line south of the junction with the Sorot only with a skirmish line of NKVD troops, so the enemy will be through there if they put on any kind of a push at all. I will leave a unit in Velikie Luki to fortify.



Psych0 -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (9/30/2017 11:47:07 PM)

OK, I've done South...

... not too impressed with my opponent; T2 and he's not even past the Goryn river! I took the opportunity to mess with his supply again so my line should be fairly safe. Let's see.

- Defending the Rumanian border to really frustrate AGS and delay building their rail from there
- Starting to dig in along the Dnepr, in the main cities and on the isthmus to the Crimea
- Let me know if North or Centre sectors need more units. I have plenty like it is now, so feel free to send all reinforcements to North and Centre.
- Only used a couple AP to disband a few forts that were not doing anything. Not worth the manpower and equipment if it only costs the Germans 3MP to kill them. I kept the ones I could defend.
- Wallas, keep the airbases on the rail lines, reduces the truck usage a little and thus improves supply for all
- Guys, also whenever possible for HQs and units on top of rail

I do expect to have to fall back quite a bit next turn, but this turn I thought it safe enough to severely delay AGS' advance.


And what a great opportunity to cut off that lone PzC west of VL!! You might even be able to keep them isolated until our next turn if you can hold the Dvina-Sinyaya line.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/1/2017 2:55:27 AM)

What do you mean, you have done South? I have not even done Centre yet. Centre has priority phase on North, then South.



Psych0 -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/1/2017 7:49:44 AM)

OK, won't happen again. I just don't have much time the coming day or 2 and I saw 'air done' appear in the dropbox. Then saw neither yourself or drking online here, so quickly did my turn. Apologies if I messed anything up.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/1/2017 4:21:17 PM)

Allright, as long as the troops around Chernigov were not touch I'll relent on this one.

I will make my turn in Centre tonight, then thedoctorking will go next.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 2:54:10 AM)

My turn will take longer as the situation in the Centre is more complicated than expected - and I do not want to mess it again like in my GC with Psych0.

Ground Commander Psych0, I will need a list of Armies available to be shipped to Centre Front. The upper Dnepr and Smolensk are empty and I might need reinforcements.



Psych0 -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 4:13:41 AM)

At the moment there's not much spare, but next turn I expect to be able to transfer 5th Army. Have you moved Orel MD to the Dnepr already? And covering Dnepr south of Mogilev with some 4 units is sufficient this turn. 26th Mech Corps is also on it's way from the Caucasus somewhere, got as far as west of Orel thus turn.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 4:58:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Psych0

At the moment there's not much spare, but next turn I expect to be able to transfer 5th Army. Have you moved Orel MD to the Dnepr already? And covering Dnepr south of Mogilev with some 4 units is sufficient this turn. 26th Mech Corps is also on it's way from the Caucasus somewhere, got as far as west of Orel thus turn.


The whole of Orel MD is covering the front South of Mogilev behind Zlobin. I will do with what I have then.

Remaining AP: 20
Remaing Cap: 14272

Main info:

- Pocketed troops in Central Front has spreaded enough to block every possible railway line of supplies to all Axis troops in front of the Dnepr.
- Zhukov and Western Front have successfully relocated away from enemy lines. Zhukov is reportedly still alive.
- 5th Mechanized Corps has temporarily relocated to Smolensk to spare railway cap, while 7th Motorized Corps is in Moscow
- A temporarily main line of defence has been build between Vitebsk and the Dnepr, while we have occupied the eastern bank of the Dnepr. Strongest presence in Orsha, Mogilev, and down Mogilev to Zlobin
- Strong points were build in the rear at Surazh, in the woods south of Rudnya, north of Chausy, and in on the Pronya swampbanks
- The whole 24th Army is in Reserve, building forts along the upper Dnepr in front of Vyasma.

Vatutin has taken over 20th Army.
Tobulkin has taken over 13th Army.

NOTE:

My turn is now on the Dropbox.

I have not touched to 62th Corps in and around Vitebsk. It is up to thedoctorking to decide whether it reinforces Vitebsk or Velikiye Luki, since it belongs to 22th Army.

https://imgur.com/vc7c254



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 3:47:58 PM)

Esteemed comrade, may I recommend assigning the STAVKA units in the Mogliev-Smolensk region to Western Front? They are much more powerful when in command. I have taken the liberty of doing so for units north of the Dvina. Doesn't cost any AP either.

I also did move a couple of air units that appeared in danger of being overrun. In line with earlier guidance from you as acting STAVKA, I will move the airborne units ahead of my front into more defensible blocking positions in the area in front of Velikie Luki.



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 4:49:09 PM)

Drakken, I'm also noticing that you don't seem to have moved in the Gomel/Pripyat region. Maybe I have a bad save game file? Or you put up a save game file that didn't have all your moves in it?



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 5:00:06 PM)

OK, I've made my moves.

I've got a strong defense in front of the Pskov/Piepus gap. The closest place the HQ for that armored div in the swamps could be is four hexes away, and through the swamp, so I'm hoping that guy doesn't have much fuel to make attacks. I have a reasonably strong defense between Pskov and the Sorot River. To the south, there is only an airborne corps between the enemy and Velikie Luki. Again, though, I'm not seeing any HQ for those motorized divs north of the Dvina (and I did a bunch of recon missions into that area so I figure I would have seen something if it was there. I think that's their HQ in the bend of the Ulla, well south. So they should also be short of fuel. I've got a corps behind the Narva River in the north and a cordon of security guys across central Estonia to slow down any offensive in that direction. They could have a rail line up towards Riga, so supply for their guys up there might be a little better than in the center.



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 5:06:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Drakken

quote:

ORIGINAL: Psych0


I have not touched to 62th Corps in and around Vitebsk. It is up to thedoctorking to decide whether it reinforces Vitebsk or Velikiye Luki, since it belongs to 22th Army.

https://imgur.com/vc7c254



My understanding was that holding Vitebsk was crucial to the position in the center so I left them in and around the city. Figured your guys behind them would keep them from getting cut off.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 7:08:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

Drakken, I'm also noticing that you don't seem to have moved in the Gomel/Pripyat region. Maybe I have a bad save game file? Or you put up a save game file that didn't have all your moves in it?


My units in the Pripyat marshes have moved. Axis has ZOC next to the railway so they are unusable.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 7:08:53 PM)

Thank you everyone. I will make the last touches and submit the turn to Axis.

STAVKA has ordered 6 new Construction Battalions (and not RAILROAD Construction Brigades), plus 5 Sapper Battalions. Use them for your forts on Turn 3.

You have all done a bang-on job. [:)]



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 9:35:39 PM)

Do construction battalions help build your fortification levels?

My general rule in solo games I have played is that each army should have a sapper regiment and each corps should have a battalion, and when the engineer-sapper brigades become available later on - in winter some time - I switch over to those at the army level and assign the regiments to corps or fortified regions. We won't be able to build corps until 1942 some time, I think, except cavalry corps which can be built starting turn 6 or so. We should do those as soon as we can because cavalry divisions are pathetic things. Sorry Budenny...[8D]



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 11:19:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

Do construction battalions help build your fortification levels?


Yep, if they are attached to a Corps or Army HQ, or to a Fortified Region.



wallas -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/2/2017 11:47:54 PM)

Attention all front commanders I will begin sending aircraft to the reserve for reorganization. Please be aware the lack of air support will only be temporary and the air force will keep up air recon and fighter cap as best as possible. Also I see AP being distributed in above post and none assigned to air command please advise why.

Air Command



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/3/2017 1:22:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wallas

Attention all front commanders I will begin sending aircraft to the reserve for reorganization. Please be aware the lack of air support will only be temporary and the air force will keep up air recon and fighter cap as best as possible. Also I see AP being distributed in above post and none assigned to air command please advise why.

Air Command


It was a mere oversight on my part, as I did not know Air Command needed APs. I will make sure on T3 when neogodhobo comes back that Air Command is not forgotten.



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/3/2017 11:08:06 PM)

Looks like they're done? How bad is it?



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/4/2017 1:30:30 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

Looks like they're done? How bad is it?


I've checked the Dropbox. Centre and North are done for Axis, but not South yet.



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/5/2017 3:11:03 PM)

I'm seeing north, center, and south now in the Dropbox. It's pretty rich that they're complaining about us being slow and now they're sitting around with apparently everybody completed and haven't given us the turn yet.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (10/5/2017 3:48:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

I'm seeing north, center, and south now in the Dropbox. It's pretty rich that they're complaining about us being slow and now they're sitting around with apparently everybody completed and haven't given us the turn yet.


I was advised that we should expect their turn by tomorrow. First, they need their Sup Commander to oversee the last touches and press the end button.

Their Turn Manager has also made a call for them to calm down and stop complaining about our "slowness" since we have all lives and we must work with our Sup Commander temporarily AWOL - and me taking it over the shoulders.



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