RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (Full Version)

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Telemecus -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 12:21:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
Turn 7 Real game turn
I used to get angry at this(Mad Bombing) a long time ago. But now I know what this(meaning the Mad Bombing) means and how to use it to good effect for Germany. As such I launch operation, "Something WICKED this way comes" this turn on the zerg of Soviet airbases in the South. They are full of aircraft and ready to be harvested.


And the results for all to see

[image]https://i.imgur.com/XxSPU8l.jpg[/image]



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 12:59:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: beender


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain


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ORIGINAL: Dinglir

I really love the detailed reports you do on the preparations. I am sure this will help a lot of players improve their game. I have certainly picked up a thing or two.

Keep it up.



Recon and planning is so important for the Germans I can't stress this enough. 90% preparation and 10% execution.

I will do the two detailed attacks on Leningrad & Bryansk real quick tonight on my step by steps so people can see the moves. But I don't know if I can continue through the whole campaign because it does get pretty tedious.

I can imagine that'll be tedious, but they are very helpful as well! At least for me who is new. Don't want to interrupt your AAR too often but really appreciate the detailed explanation.


I don't mind people commenting in my AAR at all. I encourage conversation :)



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 1:03:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Telemecus

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
Turn 7 Real game turn
I used to get angry at this(Mad Bombing) a long time ago. But now I know what this(meaning the Mad Bombing) means and how to use it to good effect for Germany. As such I launch operation, "Something WICKED this way comes" this turn on the zerg of Soviet airbases in the South. They are full of aircraft and ready to be harvested.


And the results for all to see

[image]https://i.imgur.com/XxSPU8l.jpg[/image]




I'm afraid the evil mastermind behind the eye candy Mad Bombing shown on the map slipped away from our clutches :-{. BUT many of the evil Cohorts pay a price for their evil ways ;-) I'm sure we will have to go through many of these Cohorts before we finally get the "Mad Bomber". Stay tuned



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 1:08:11 PM)

Turn 7 (Real game turn as it happens)

Leningrad & Bryansk Industries that were cut off are still cut off. :). I take a look at Tula and looks like M60 moved the Industry from Tula :(.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 1:12:49 PM)

Turn 7 (Real game turn)

Looking at Kaluga looks to be a better bargain with less effort. At a minimum, I should be able to get next to Kaluga to incur the double cost on rail movement from looking at Recon photos of the area.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 1:45:00 PM)

Turn 7

Something WICKED this way comes

Aided by a "Holy Avenger" to obscure the movement of the "German Avenger" armor unit to the Mad Bombers air fleet the "German Avenger" moves into place as the "Holy Avenger" with the shield, sword, and a storm front obscure the movement from prying eyes.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 1:54:51 PM)

Turn 7

Something WICKED this way comes

Guided safely to starting position by the "Holy Avenger" the "Avenger" waits for the German airforce to do their deeds. Operation "Something WICKED this way comes" has ended. Now begins "Airbase Ping Pong Mayhem in the Daisy fields in front of Kharkov and other strange happenings" begins.

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Telemecus -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 1:56:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
[image]local://upfiles/53556/5D9674692FC74EC3A1FACA58937995D6.jpg[/image]


is that a Panzer mark VI? Angel wings extra optional?



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 2:08:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Telemecus

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
[image]local://upfiles/53556/5D9674692FC74EC3A1FACA58937995D6.jpg[/image]


is that a Panzer mark VI? Angel wings extra optional?


She is the super Panzer Mark X.X ;-)



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 5:06:38 PM)

Turn 7

After recon of the Southern front, I have noticed that M60 has reinforced the area in front of Stalino pretty heavily based on my last thrust behind Z Town. I then turn my attention to the Kharkov area and do a "Recon Bomb" to make sure there are no surprises. This is what I have after the Recon bomb. Now begins operation, "Airbase Ping Pong Mayhem in the Daisy Fields in front of Kharkov and other strange happenings". I decide to go for broke in the South. I only see 2 units behind the thin line in the front marked in orange. Also notice two airbases in my planned route through the line along with a third airbase not circled to the NW.

[image]local://upfiles/53556/E6DEAF7C42A64404A31C88E86C12FB54.jpg[/image]



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 5:11:42 PM)

Turn 7 real time

I bring up an armor unit to make sure I can get through the front line. No problem there. I also bring up my airfields with extra fighters and bombers. (My Stukas were just out of range on the air transfer in otherwise the carnage would have been much much much worse than what happened)

[image]local://upfiles/53556/DEB3EC3D27F740B782009619EFA2AAA0.jpg[/image]



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 5:16:33 PM)

Turn 7 real time

As a side effect of my armor moving up the industry of Z Town was captured.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 5:24:53 PM)

Turn 7 Real time

I bring up an infantry division to help support the hasty attack to the NE. The unit will retreat NE this time, Grrrrrrrr

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 5:34:12 PM)

Turn 7 Real time

But before the attack, I do all my first Soviet airbase bombings. First, the Rumanians go in to "soften" up the Soviets with the first bombing raid done by them on each of the airbases. Then comes the Blonde hair supermen of the German Airforce.


***please don't read too much into my writings, I'm just adding flare to spice up the reading ;-)

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 5:47:03 PM)

Turn 7 Real time

After the airfield bombing the "Avenger" completes his run through the Soviet displacing the Soviet bases to be bombed again :).

[image]local://upfiles/53556/C57FBAA3D39B4A4D972952920B3EA7A9.jpg[/image]



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 5:53:28 PM)

Turn 7

The attack succeeds and I then attack the 6=5 to the east.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 5:59:58 PM)

Turn 7

I bring up a Cav unit to force retreat the unit to the east and I bring up a new Armor unit for the attack. I also turn on Ground support for this attack. Please Note that the Cav unit displaced the Soviet Airbase to be bombed again.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 6:03:02 PM)

Turn 7

I move the armor up with the Cav unit. I have the Armor attack the Soviet unit to the NW to have it retreat NW. This also causes the Airbase to displace causing more planes lost.

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SparkleyTits -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 6:03:29 PM)

Uh oh it's happening!



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 6:07:41 PM)

Turn 7

I walk units forward paying attention to my movement points to either attack Kharkov directly or cut it off. My movement points dictate cut off. Also the Moto unit will finish the pocket of all units to the West(some 13+ units) by linking up with the "Avenger" and setting up a defense. Instead of doing a step by step for the mundane tasks the next snapshot will be the final place of my units.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 6:12:17 PM)

Turn 7

Final picture of

"Airbase Ping Pong Mayhem in the Daisy field in front of Kharkov and other strange happenings" operation

[image]local://upfiles/53556/79E0EBE3A7A94062AD5007E5ADD75762.jpg[/image]



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 6:14:26 PM)

Turn 7

The industry on loan to the Soviets for a turn or two more.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 6:18:14 PM)

Turn 7

End of Operation "Airbase Ping Pong Mayhem in the Daisy fields in front of Kharkov and other strange happenings" Air loses

I never ran out of targets......... I ran out of bombs & fuel :(. I'm happy with the results

[image]local://upfiles/53556/DCA9BEF993E54BFAB70C9FD43CC3134C.jpg[/image]



Telemecus -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 6:21:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Turn 7

End of Operation ...
I never ran out of targets......... I ran out of bombs & fuel :(. I'm happy with the results


You should tell your pilots to throw their goggles really really hard at the enemy then.



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 6:26:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Telemecus


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Turn 7

End of Operation ...
I never ran out of targets......... I ran out of bombs & fuel :(. I'm happy with the results


You should tell your pilots to throw their goggles really really hard at the enemy then.



My fighter bases still have plenty of ammo and fuel though :). That is a good thing.



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (2/28/2018 6:27:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain


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ORIGINAL: Telemecus


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Turn 7

End of Operation ...
I never ran out of targets......... I ran out of bombs & fuel :(. I'm happy with the results


You should tell your pilots to throw their goggles really really hard at the enemy then.



My fighter bases still have plenty of ammo and fuel though :). That is a good thing.


But then again as I contemplate this after the fact I could be in trouble.....



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (3/1/2018 4:53:51 AM)

Turn 7

56 units destroyed this turn. The happenings on the battlefield made holding prisoners on the map any longer non-conducive. The prisoners have been moved to appropriate containment centers in what used to be known as Poland but Greater Germany now.

[image]local://upfiles/53556/A8C33FF3E5834C8FB7DBAAA405F8A3CE.jpg[/image]



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (3/1/2018 4:56:21 AM)

Turn 7

414,064 Ground loses to the Soviet this turn.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (3/1/2018 5:03:48 AM)

Turn 7


Poltava Pocket formed estimated 11 Inf Div, 5 Airborne brigades, 1 AT brigade in pocket. The pocket should collapse to 4-5 hexes wide after the supply phase.

Industry is in the Critical stage now. I also have an armor unit outside of Kaluga which will cost double the cost to move the industry if M60 wished to do so. Otherwise, he will need to make the armor retreat under Guderian.

[image]local://upfiles/53556/55E7996207614185BE2B2A9B870D56C9.jpg[/image]



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome) (3/1/2018 5:19:01 AM)

Turn 7

Final thoughts on turn

The new supply rules are pretty rough. Yes, I know you are going to say it doesn't look like from what I have been doing. But I can tell you that a novice or Mid-level player is going to have a rough time sustaining any type of sustainable offense on the current system from what I have seen. I have done two HQ BU's one on turn 4 & one on turn 5 and it just about killed my truck pool. Not to mention the JU-52's are worthless and put them in reserve to stay. I'm doing what I am doing only because of experience.

M60 is at the critical junction now where he really can't afford to lose any more Industry imo. His unit total on the board is also at critical. Loss of any more units beyond what is encircled in the current pocket will quickly lead to a collapse of a front. He has to survive the next 4 turns but his one friend, giving ground, is also quickly dissipating in front of him. He has very little ground that can be given up now where it matters. Now, where can I nudge him to put him over the edge...... Time will tell



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