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warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/17/2018 6:55:03 AM)
Turn 114 31st October 1943 I've decided to play things a little more cautiously and bombard (from air and land) the areas to be attacked. The key attacks this turn are on the east coast as I attempt to surround some German units in a mini salient... [image]local://upfiles/28156/A8677F9DE6414DFA872359A207605EC7.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/17/2018 7:10:07 AM)
Turn 114 31st October 1943 The first part of the plan goes okay, but there are too few units left to follow up. I am going to try it anyway out of frustration. The units being attacked should be in no good state. These have retreated the previous turn so can't be dug in - there is no reason to believe they are in a fit state to defend.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/67CB837554C2461D96EAF4D2F57C8FC3.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/17/2018 7:17:09 AM)
Turn 114 31st October 1943 ...and I'm pleased to say my hunch was right for once! Despite a 'Poor' battle prediction, the German units weren't in a fit state to fight and retreated again - exposing a large number of units including an infantry regiment. I wouldn't like to be a member of the US 191st Tank Battalion right now..... [image]local://upfiles/28156/1D9E890EFB1F4E00AFB8F53C96A0AF7D.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/17/2018 7:23:51 AM)
Turn 114 31st October 1943 Meanwhile on the west coast the 7th Armoured Brigade decide that anything their old sparring partners in the Desert Rats (the 4th Armoured Brigade) can do, they can do better. A German panzergrenadier regiment is pushed back and this time the losses in so doing are relatively light. [image]local://upfiles/28156/DD80D479ADE947A3AC1084BA7D0B1E71.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/17/2018 7:33:51 AM)
Turn 114 31st October 1943 For the final round I decide to try and lessen the chances of the surrounded Germans fighting their way out of the pocket by expanding the distance between them and safety. The tanks of the 5th Army Reserve support infantry regiments and engineers from the 34th and 92nd Divisions and attack two artillery regiments on the coast. The German units retreat and the 753rd Tank Battalion advances. [image]local://upfiles/28156/55D89D7EDF0F4F67A64A084508C1F244.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/17/2018 7:37:36 AM)
Turn 114 31st October 1943 I feel that was a positive turn. Of course a lots will depend on the ability of the Germans in the pocket to break-out or not. I have to hope that even if they do, they will take some serious losses in so doing.

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/17/2018 7:44:45 PM)
Turn 115 1st November 1943 Sadly the Germans whip out their battlefield nuclear weapons once again. The combat results have gone but essentially the British lose another couple of hundred infantry squads and a shed load of artillery to bombardment alone.... bizarre. Anyway.... Regardless, both the US and the Commonwealth decide to press on.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/1EAA84A2664647089AB0D7589DCCF85A.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/17/2018 9:10:01 PM)
Turn 115 1st November 1943 All attacks appear to have been successful and so the order is given to press on. The two regiments of the 36th and 92nd Division (with tank support) are ordered to try and continue up the coast road, while on the opposite flank, the British can't do the same and so have to settle for attacking the enemy either side of the coastal path. [image]local://upfiles/28156/81BBAC5E8674488B9A87D2DDB40675B2.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/17/2018 9:27:06 PM)
Turn 115 1st November 1943 The Allies catch a break - the attacks are once again largely successful and the turn moves into a final round. The movement points are largely spent but the plan will be for the 92nd and 36th Divisions to consolidate along the coast as much as possible. 45th and 34th Divisions will try and push up along the mountain track, while 3rd and 1st Armoured will act as support as and where required. Notice the pocket of surrounded troops has been eliminated [image]local://upfiles/28156/32AB0D02EF374528B0DCC2B3709D51B8.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/17/2018 9:36:57 PM)
Turn 115 1st November 1943 I will have a look at the losses for that turn as I suspect this will make better reading for the Allies.... The Allied turn was not without its losses - but this is the best I've had against the Axis by a mile. [image]local://upfiles/28156/2C6BB8F2423B46E5A23714BBB832A3E2.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/18/2018 4:05:14 PM)
Turn 116 - Axis Turn 2nd November 1943 A decent turn again. The engaged unit is in the British sector. The two furballs are German aircraft - one fighter and one SG - not sure what that is (unless they mean StG)? The bombardments are against US tank battalions but caused manageable damage. [image]local://upfiles/28156/83ABDE7D52904288B6BF8EDD5A1C984C.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/18/2018 4:48:31 PM)
Turn 116 2nd November 1943 5 attacks are earmarked - 2 in the CW sector and 3 in the US. On the left of the line the German 65th Division HQ is pushed back by a British armoured brigade. To their right the 7th Armoured Brigade makes short work of a battalion of infantry from the Hermann Goering Division, threatening the surrounding of a large number of troops. The lack of movement points is likely to frustrate further progress however. In the middle of the line elements of the US 1st Armoured, 3rd and 34th Infantry Divisions do the same to a panzergrenadier battalion. On their right a Fallschirmjaeger battalion succumbs to the advances of the US 45th Division, while on the extreme right the US 191st Tank Battalion continues its progress. [image]local://upfiles/28156/932F3CCCF2D54C2F83BA3636BCA1C9E8.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/18/2018 6:10:25 PM)
Turn 116 2nd November 1943 With moves running out the British in the west and the US in the east keep the pressure on. The policy of pushing ahead means that some of the regiments and battalions in the front line are somewhat exposed to counter-attack, but I think this is the only way to try and keep the Axis off balance. The turn ends with a couple more attacks - one in the centre and one in the east (post the shot below) and a number of bombardments to (hopefully) cause some German units to reorganise.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/3051A82814724E579EA62933E1894B33.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/18/2018 11:06:31 PM)
Turn 117 - Axis Turn 3rd November 1943 A ton of reinforcements moving south - including artillery this turn.... Pleasingly 3 Axis units were engaged last turn and the Axis bombardments were few in number and result; the CW forces were the target. [image]local://upfiles/28156/BC8440DC2B334FA9AC48F16B39C94321.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 4:50:06 AM)
Turn 117 3rd November 1943 I make a few gains in retreat before combat, the 4th and 7th Armoured Brigades in the thick of the action once again and isolating two panzergreanadier battalions, a panzer battalion and an attached company. [image]local://upfiles/28156/467A0EA99306410ABE54F3CB1EEF0E32.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 4:52:27 AM)
Turn 117 3rd November 1943 To try and sow a little confusion (and hopefully mess up their supply) I send the 82 Airborne behind the front line, capturing Senise and severing the road to Taranto. The 504th drop straight into the teeth of a panzergrenadier regiment however.... Does anyone now what the unit with the HQ is? Its marked as 504th R?? - thanks [image]local://upfiles/28156/6D9609C653D04C558F53DE5AEA9C8CF4.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 5:23:19 AM)
Turn 117 3rd November 1943 Operation Link-Up begins. Any units that can be scratched together are put onto the coast road in an effort to reach the 82nd Airborne as quickly as possible. There can only be one attack from the south at the present time and so I order all paratroop units into dig-in mode. [image]local://upfiles/28156/2010D9BCF4374374AD439896E2AC1DF4.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 5:44:15 AM)
Turn 117 3rd November 1943 Meanwhile on the CW front.... 78th Division and its armour support have opened up the way to Policastro - but they can't advance on the town yet (as I've no idea what is there) and a large formation of Germans inc panzers and artillery is threatening the coast road. I decide its time to try and liquidate the pocket to the southeast. [image]local://upfiles/28156/2FB56AC296EE48119681F8FA5EF176AC.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 5:58:28 AM)
Turn 117 3rd November 1943 The CW has significantly reduced the pocket, but Axis forces remain. This is also true of the encircled forces in the south which is a pain. The attempts to link up with the airborne units on the east coast didn't quite work as a battalion of panzergrenadiers grimly holds onto the port it's defending. Its now a case of waiting and seeing what the Germans have to a) counter with from the north and b) what fight the units south and southeast of Senise have. [image]local://upfiles/28156/660210516F4C425AA9475671833B8E05.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 8:22:41 AM)
Turn 118 - Axis Turn 4th November 1943 Numerous enemy units spotted moving up from Taranto. My relieving forces need to get there fast.... Weird?!?!?? Watching the playback indicated no attacks - but the Combat Results tell a completely different story?? There were 13 attacks/bombardments..... [&:] [image]local://upfiles/28156/79A90847C682442FA42763DF2F817439.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 8:28:01 AM)
Turn 118 - Axis Turn 4th November 1943 I'll need to go through these one by one to work out what the hell is going on. The air briefing states no aircraft lost on either side too.... Well a look at the first Loss report shows that to be total cobblers. 1. The Luftwaffe try and destroy a bridge behind the US lines. The USAAF lose a Mustang (0 destroyed) and the Luftwaffe lose 19 aircraft (6 destroyed). The bridge remains intact. [image]local://upfiles/28156/AFD97A93421E43EEBDD3778B2A8263E4.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 8:36:17 AM)
Turn 118 - Axis Turn 4th November 1943 2. devoncop targets my rail repair crews on the west coast with minor casualties 3. One battalion from the 325th Glider Regiment is bombarded - again casualties are light. 4. The Luftwaffe seeks to attack the main US forces on the coast (the relieving force) but suffer a further loss of 40 aircraft (10 destroyed) and achieve only minimal casualties. 5. A bombardment of CW units in the west - minimal casualties 6. Another air attack on the US forces and another bad result for the Luftwaffe - 34 aircraft lost (4 destroyed) 7. The first major effort to get at the 82nd Airborne sees a battalion of the 504th retreat - but they dish out more losses than they take. [image]local://upfiles/28156/53D8544B39024D15BFFF33133FCCD23C.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 8:47:58 AM)
Turn 118 - Axis Turn 4th November 1943 8.9 and 10 are three more bombardments against the CW but the losses are relatively light. 11. Another attack against the 504th - and more retreating - but again losses are manageable and the attack does not come without cost to the Germans. 12 and 13. Two more bombardments of the rail repair crew. Casualties mounting.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/111314F45EF6489EBD6111858BEB9443.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 9:04:55 AM)
Turn 118 4th November 1943 The main focus for this turn is to continue the rescue mission for the paratroopers. [image]local://upfiles/28156/71A3F718A41240CB87B0AE1CFCF69FD4.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/19/2018 7:03:27 PM)
Turn 118 4th November 1943 Sadly the moves ran out before the turn! But it was a good turn while it lasted with the link up being made on the east coast with the glider troops. [image]local://upfiles/28156/393B103D815141968B13740F4FDDBA8A.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/20/2018 4:03:39 AM)
Turn 119 - Axis Turn 5th November 1943 The Axis forces remain full of fight. I will need to get a handle on losses here and with 17 actions of various types (inc. 1 attack, 1 furball, and two disengagements) coming on top of a number of high intensity Allied turns, I am keen to understand how my troops are shaping up. As can be seen that was a reasonably tough turn - especially for the US forces... [image]local://upfiles/28156/8F66167E73094BF4A0F6F5A99597493B.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/20/2018 4:36:32 AM)
Turn 119 - Commonwealth Sector (West Coast) 5th November 1943 As the peninsular starts to widen so the difficulties increase for the Allies. Clearly advancing up the coast roads are the preferred route, but I need to be careful my forces are not too stretched a la Stalingrad. Here is the Commonwealth position at the present. Whilst keeping an eye on the mountain terrain inland, I intend to push on up the coast. I do not intend to commit too many forces to the mopping up operation around Lauria. Risky but.... [image]local://upfiles/28156/7B61F69B40A44FBD93F2829D0BA8C1B6.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/20/2018 4:45:00 AM)
Turn 119 - US Sector (East Coast) 5th November 1943 The US position has become stretched and now that the US have the 'heel' to conquer, that position can quickly become untenable. I need to get my US forces consolidated once more or a drive toward Taranto will be impossible. [image]local://upfiles/28156/0F9142F84C5E4CC08B2D5F69DD2CE867.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/20/2018 4:56:45 AM)
Turn 119 - Big picture 5th November 1943 Rough outline of a plan going forward..... [image]local://upfiles/28156/06E70241E3F741E28A1434F64BC251A3.jpg[/image]

ChuckBerger -> RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) (4/20/2018 9:10:00 AM)
Forgive the impertinent question... but haven't you just kicked some ***? It seems like you have surrounded and destroyed many top quality German formations. Whatever difficulties you think you have in terms of a broader front and tired/depleted troops must surely be worse for your opponent. And you must have him demoralised from the recent battles as well. You see strung-out, scattered, depleted Allied formations in sore need of a rest - your opponent sees a tide of unstoppable, constantly replenishing forces, with the threat of amphibious invasions everywhere and he hasn't got the troops to delay much less stop the tide! Charge, good sir!

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