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Uncivil Engineer -> Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (1/9/2021 3:22:54 PM)

Not a continuation from our "Act II" game, but a restart using DBB-C scenario 28 and non-variable reinforcements. Other start parameters and house rules remain the same with some very minor alterations. Although using a non-historical start and Japanese surprise, the Allies get some freedom of action with naval forces, though not enough to make a meaningful difference, in my opinion.

I intend to concentrate this AAR on operations in China (I AM an Army guy, so the ground game is more interesting to me than it may be to most of the rest of you). And since we're playing this time with stacking limits the tactics will have to be somewhat different. Places like Changsha and Sian will need to be surrounded and deprived of supply before being attacked. Of course, Chinese supply is limited anyway, but getting it to near zero before attacking will certainly be helpful. Same thing at Clark Field and Bataan.

There will be no attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec 7. KB will end up 7 hexes from Singapore to protect 5 Div transports that move from Hainan Island to Singkawang on Dec 7, but do not unload. They will then move to and assault Palembang, being protected by the Heavy Combat TF (2 BBs) and a cruiser TF, which start the game at Singora and Patani. The BBs cannot enter Palembang, but if he parks PoW and Repulse one hex out of that port, no amphib TF will get through. The Japanese BBs will move to one hex out of Palembang just in case, while the CAs escort the amphibs in. All the while covered by KB.

18 Div will land at Kota Bharu; 10 Tank Rgt lands at Patani; an infantry regiment lands at Singora; 14 Tank Rgt and the Imperial Guard Div rail from IndoChina to Singora. Hopefully, 10 Tank can get across the peninsula quickly enough to prevent a general retreat from Alor Star and Georgetown. The SNLF para regiments that start on Formosa will be flown to Cam Ranh Bay, then Malaya, for possible use on the multiple west coast bases of the extended map.

The Luzon invasion force will consist of 16 Div landing south of Manila, followed by 4 Div (from Osaka), and eventually 1 Div (probably in pieces as it's bought out from Manchukuo). The usual array of aviation support will land at Aparri on Dec 7. 65 Bde is available to land anywhere between Subic Bay and Vigan on the west coast, as the situation allows. 48 Div will reinforce 5 Div on Sumatra.

2 Div (which I usually use to capture Mindanao early) will go from Sendai to the Aleutian Islands, where I hope to grab islands from Attu to Adak before the Allies occupy them. CVLs Ryujo and Zuiho and 2 battleships will likely join this invasion force within a week or 2.

In China I plan to maintain all garrisons at or very near the garrison requirements, which will mean the pace of advance will be slower than usual. I expect an early attack on Ichang by the numerous Chinese Corps around it. This didn't happen in our previous games, but my opponent has learned from failure. The first job of the Japanese forces in China, other than the capture of Hong Kong, will be to open the rail line from Chengchow to Wuhan (Wuchang-Hankow). All of the tank regiments in Manchukuo will be bought out early (4 of them on Dec 7) to reinforce this effort. China will receive additional supply from Japan weekly, delivered to Hankow (~10k) and Shanghai (~20k).

Aircraft research and production - the following will get the most research facilities:

Tony Ki-61 x5, but only 2 will produce
Tojo Ki-44 x3, but only 2 will produce
Sam A7M2 x7
Ki-83 x6
Judy D4Y1 x6, 3 or 4 will produce
Jill B6N1 x6, 3 or 4 will produce
Rufe A6M2-N x7, but only 1 will produce
Frank Ki-84-a, x6
George N1K1-J, x6

I haven't done anything yet with the 3 Randy facilities - I'm open to suggestions.

Also, even though these research sites have been changed, NONE of them have been expanded to 0(30); that uses too much supply. The Rufes will be expanded first, as they arrive first, but since a 0(30) facility due in 1945 is not much more likely to repair to 1(29) than a 0(2) to 1(1), there's no hurry. To keep a tiddy supply situation these 52 research sites will probably be increased to 0(30) over 52 days.

Ida Ki-36 will be produced at 32/month to use up at least half of the 332 Hitachi (early) engines. I would rather have Anns, but the Topsy I uses the same engine as Ann.
Topsy Ki-57-I will be produced to use up the 101 Nakajima Ha-5 engines.
Kate B5N1 will be produced to use up the 99 Nakajima Hikari engines. The CVLs will probably be flying the Kate N1 until 1943.
Nate Ki-27b will be produced at 35/month (for probably 6 months) to use up the 254 Nakajima Kotobuki engines.

Chris had his last day of work on Friday, so I expect the game pace to be faster than the 2 turns per week of the past.

Maps to follow.





RangerJoe -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (1/9/2021 4:34:22 PM)

WoW! All of those divisions, where does the Japanese get them all?[&:] Five divisions going to Palamebang, eighteen divisions at Kota Bharu, sixteen divisions landing south of Manila, four divisions coming from Osaka, not to mention all of those tank regiments and the sixty five brigades! [;)] With all of those troops, just land on the West Coast! [;)]




PaxMondo -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (1/9/2021 9:42:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

WoW! All of those divisions, where does the Japanese get them all?[&:] Five divisions going to Palamebang, eighteen divisions at Kota Bharu, sixteen divisions landing south of Manila, four divisions coming from Osaka, not to mention all of those tank regiments and the sixty five brigades! [;)] With all of those troops, just land on the West Coast! [;)]

LOL!!!

[:D][:D][:D]




Bif1961 -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (1/15/2021 8:22:32 AM)

Good luck and have fun.




Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (1/26/2021 4:13:25 PM)

Dec 7

We finally started!

I used KB to hit Singapore. A sweep by 13 carrier-based Zeroes downed 7 of 23 intercepting Buffaloes, followed by a heavier strike on a loitering Allied TF, bagging 3 tankers and other small stuff -

quote:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 50,84

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
B5N2 Kate x 48
D3A1 Val x 44

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed by flak
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
TK Spirilla, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Pinna, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Ipoh, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Perak, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Jarak
TK Mobilfuel, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
TK British Judge, Bomb hits 13, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

TK Pleiodon, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Lipis, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Circe, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AMc Klias



Japanese troops landed at the usual locations -

in Malaya - Singora, Patani, and Kota Bharu, but the initial task forces at Samah were reconfigured to land all of 18th Div at Kota Bharu and a tank regiment at Patani.

on Luzon - Aparri and Naga.

Batan Is.

and on Borneo - Singkawang.

The 2 unrestricted divisions in Japan (4th and 33rd) have loaded transports and are bound for Luzon and Malaya, respectively.

In China, the usual Dec 7 attack at Pengpu pushed the 89th Chinese Corps back across the river -

[image]local://upfiles/41215/0A0A051268AC4174BBD2458FF4AD18A8.jpg[/image]

Our initial objectives in China are:

(1) Hong Kong, duh!
(2) open the rail line between Chengchow and Hankow, and
(3) Wenchow






Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (1/27/2021 11:00:12 AM)

The Japanese air losses for Dec 7 would not have been as bad had sweeps flown before the bombers; happened on several occasions -
[image]local://upfiles/41215/0CCE366B147A48C08B82ECB52D858732.jpg[/image]





Q-Ball -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (1/27/2021 3:23:21 PM)

KB strike on Singapore is interesting. You definitely will not bag as many VPs, but there are some ships in port, particularly CL Mauritius and a couple Australian AMCs that later convert to LSIs....those are somewhat valuable, though didn't look like you hit those in this strike.

It does position you perfectly for an early Palembang and/or Mersing landing. It will clear Force Z for sure.

Downsides:
--Those waters are hazardous for sub attacks, so there is much higher sub-risk than other areas
--Doesn't cover Wake landing....you probably need to cancel that or it could easily get jumped
--You'll need to be very carful going to Rabaul as well, unless KB makes for Truk after Palembang taken




Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (1/28/2021 3:01:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

KB strike on Singapore is interesting. You definitely will not bag as many VPs, but there are some ships in port, particularly CL Mauritius and a couple Australian AMCs that later convert to LSIs....those are somewhat valuable, though didn't look like you hit those in this strike.

It does position you perfectly for an early Palembang and/or Mersing landing. It will clear Force Z for sure.

Downsides:
--Those waters are hazardous for sub attacks, so there is much higher sub-risk than other areas
--Doesn't cover Wake landing....you probably need to cancel that or it could easily get jumped
--You'll need to be very carful going to Rabaul as well, unless KB makes for Truk after Palembang taken


Thanks for the input. As there were Allied TFs at Singapore, those were attacked and not the port. But, hanging around.

You're absolutely right about Palembang - that is indeed my objective! IJA 5th Div is on transports at Singkawang, using a warp move from Samah on Dec 7 to get there. That amphib TF will follow the 2 BB TF and a CA TF in to one hex from Palembang on Dec 8 (the BBs leading in case Force Z goes there), then follow the CA TF into Palembang on Dec 9. Meanwhile, all three covered by KB which will move from 7 hexes east of Singapore to 5 hexes SE. There will be no early invasion of Mersing this time, as I agreed to do a "closer to historical" invasion of Malaya. Mersing is off the table until Dec 25, per our agreement.

Nothing going to either Wake or Rabaul at the moment. I might use the Guam invasion force to take Wake after Guam is secured. But, I'm also thinking of initially bypassing Rabaul for Buna and Shortlands, then take Rabaul later. There is definitely no hurry to take Wake. The IJA 2nd Div (which mostly starts at Sendai) is going to the Aleutians, so those landings will definitely be a surprise. The TF shows Midway as the destination, but is heading toward Adak as a waypoint.





Q-Ball -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (1/28/2021 5:27:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Uncivil Engineer


quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

KB strike on Singapore is interesting. You definitely will not bag as many VPs, but there are some ships in port, particularly CL Mauritius and a couple Australian AMCs that later convert to LSIs....those are somewhat valuable, though didn't look like you hit those in this strike.

It does position you perfectly for an early Palembang and/or Mersing landing. It will clear Force Z for sure.

Downsides:
--Those waters are hazardous for sub attacks, so there is much higher sub-risk than other areas
--Doesn't cover Wake landing....you probably need to cancel that or it could easily get jumped
--You'll need to be very carful going to Rabaul as well, unless KB makes for Truk after Palembang taken


Thanks for the input. As there were Allied TFs at Singapore, those were attacked and not the port. But, hanging around.

You're absolutely right about Palembang - that is indeed my objective! IJA 5th Div is on transports at Singkawang, using a warp move from Samah on Dec 7 to get there. That amphib TF will follow the 2 BB TF and a CA TF in to one hex from Palembang on Dec 8 (the BBs leading in case Force Z goes there), then follow the CA TF into Palembang on Dec 9. Meanwhile, all three covered by KB which will move from 7 hexes east of Singapore to 5 hexes SE. There will be no early invasion of Mersing this time, as I agreed to do a "closer to historical" invasion of Malaya. Mersing is off the table until Dec 25, per our agreement.

Nothing going to either Wake or Rabaul at the moment. I might use the Guam invasion force to take Wake after Guam is secured. But, I'm also thinking of initially bypassing Rabaul for Buna and Shortlands, then take Rabaul later. There is definitely no hurry to take Wake. The IJA 2nd Div (which mostly starts at Sendai) is going to the Aleutians, so those landings will definitely be a surprise. The TF shows Midway as the destination, but is heading toward Adak as a waypoint.


Good feedback!
--That Mersing rule is an unusual House Rule; while a Dec 7 landing there IMO is not kosher (Japanese could not get that close to Mersing historically on the 6th without raising massive alarm), delay until 25th is tough
--Good call on Palembang, just bring a base force so you can have CAP over it Day 1....Dutch can bomb it from Batavia
--I think you can delay Wake, it will just could take alot more effort in the future. If I am Allies, I would load-up another Marine Def Bn at Pearl right away when I know where KB is, and maybe even some tanks or something. Just be prepared to bring BBs when you do come back, could be much tougher nut. IMO, you do need Wake eventually, but it's not a very strategic asset, because the airbase is too small.
--Rabaul can be bypassed, but it's also the only decent airfield there, so I would make an effort to take it. If you clear Rabaul and put an Air HQ there, you can take the rest of the Solomons without CV support




RangerJoe -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (1/28/2021 8:51:54 PM)

Once Wake is clear of fighters, bomb the ground units at 11k feet since not much should shoot back. Bomb with Kates as well. Then BBs on the turn of the invasion which could even be a Fast Transport mission with a Remain On Station so they can bombard with the remaining ammo the next day if need. The BBs can hang around as well.




Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/1/2021 1:57:30 PM)

Dec 8, 1941

Bases captured today: Aparri, Naga, Kota Bharu, Makin, Singkawang

KB found itself in a target rich environment south of Singapore and attacked several TFs, unfortunately, several of the strikes went without fighter escort, so losses in Vals and Kates were unacceptable. Other than CL Durban the Allied ships sunk were mostly auxiliaries.

[image]local://upfiles/41215/5DA6A48F28FD487D980C45FC5D47AA5F.jpg[/image]




Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/1/2021 2:07:09 PM)

Dec 8 (continued)

There was also a carrier strike on Singapore that had a decent result -

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 48
B5N2 Kate x 54
D3A1 Val x 50

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 19 damaged (ouch)
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CM Willem v d Zaan, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AMc Gemas, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Sin Kheng Seng, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
AG Pangkor, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AMc Rahman, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Jerantut, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Port hits 3


Like I said, mostly auxiliaries -

[image]local://upfiles/41215/005109B8497C45AD9C69B48512476167.jpg[/image]




Q-Ball -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/1/2021 4:23:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Once Wake is clear of fighters, bomb the ground units at 11k feet since not much should shoot back. Bomb with Kates as well. Then BBs on the turn of the invasion which could even be a Fast Transport mission with a Remain On Station so they can bombard with the remaining ammo the next day if need. The BBs can hang around as well.


Agreed there isn't much flak, but how do you clear the fighters without any CVs nearby? Surface units are several turns away, and very risky with 2 USN CVs lurking......

That's the challenge with Wake, I think it has to be left until you can get CV support (or at least until KB can disappear for a few days)




Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/2/2021 8:11:20 AM)

Dec 9, 1941

Bases captured today: Kweiteh (flipped), Nauru Is., Tarawa, Tuguegarao (para drop)

The heavy BB TF leading the pack into Palembang sank a couple small ships and discovered a minefield one hex out from Palembang, but no damage to any ships. The battleships will now retire to cover KB lurking nearby. The cruiser and amphib TFs have reached Palembang and the transports (5th Div(+)) will unload on the 10th.

Hong Kong forts were reduced from 3 to 2 by engineers in a 1:2 deliberate attack.

A word on aircraft research - these are the number of research "factories" for future aircraft:

Rufe - 7
Sam - 8
Judy - 6
Jill - 6
Tojo - 3
Tony - 5
Frank - 6
George - 6
Ki-83 - 6

I've deliberately slowed the expansion to 30 to ensure plentiful supply (as defined by the accumulated supply at Tokyo).

Edit to add: Intel provided by email informs me that 2 Dutch pilots are now aces (from the action on Dec 8).





Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/3/2021 10:53:29 AM)

Dec 10, 1941

No bases captured.

Places invaded today: Palembang, Miri, Laoag, Atimonan (all should be captured tomorrow)

A small TF headed to Talaud-eilanden (without a deception plan, my bad) was intercepted by the CL Boise TF and sunk -

quote:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Talaud-eilanden at 79,97, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Umikaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 1
PB Kure Maru #5, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
PB Hakata Maru #2, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
xAK Shinsei Maru, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
xAK Taihei Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Kidokawa Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAKL Kosho Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires


Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
CL Boise
DD Barker, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Bulmer
DD Stewart
DD Paul Jones
DD Parrott

Japanese ground losses:
646 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Moran, E. crosses the 'T'


I sort of expected something like this, but had a whole bunch of search looking well west of Babeldaob and saw nothing but 1 ship TFs. I should have shown Davao (or elsewhere) as the destination with Talaud as a waypoint. Of course, I don't know for sure whether he had intel on the move or just got lucky, but I would expect the former. The Japanese DDs are limping back to Babeldaob in bad shape; the 9 JNAF Coy and the transports are at the bottom of the Celebes Sea.

CVLs Ryujo and Zuiho TFs have merged east of the Philippines and along with a battleship TF are heading toward Babeldaob to fix this mess.

In China -

[image]local://upfiles/41215/589AB2C81D454E17A6C88FFD3E4FF921.jpg[/image]

The blue arrows show where the Chinese have withdrawn and the yellow arrows show where they retreated after being attacked. It appears that the Chinese are attempting to encircle Ichang and Sinyang; I already have over 400 AV at Sinyang and they have nowhere near that much. Our main objective at the moment is to open the rail line through Chengchow.





Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/4/2021 10:49:33 AM)

Dec 11, 1941 - Palembang captured

Bases captured today:

Laoag (flipped, occupied by 65 Bde),
Atimonan (vacant, occupied by Miura Det.),
Palembang (defenders retreated SW, occupied by 5th Div(+); NO damage to oil or refinery),
Miri (defender surrendered, occupied by several SNLFs and support; oil and refinery 50% damage),
Legaspi (vacant, occupied by SNLF).

Bases IJA/IJN troops landed today: Guam, Hollandia, Vanimo, Wewak, Aitape, Brunei; all should be captured tomorrow.

In other news, 3 Air HQ arrived at Kota Bharu by sea.

Chinese troops continue their general withdraw.

Blenheims bombed Bangkok destroying half of the refinery capacity, which is now 10(10). This won't be repaired until Rangoon is captured. Nates alone are incapable of defending the base. Oscars are defending Palembang; the other Oscar unit of 3 Air is escorting bombing runs in Malaya. The Zeroes of 22 Air Flotilla are stationed at Kota Bharu sweeping Brit & AVG(!) fighters in Malaya wherever found.







Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/6/2021 10:49:58 AM)

Dec 12, 1941 - Hong Kong captured

Bases captured today:

Hong Kong (minimal damage to logistic facilities)
Guam
Hollandia
Vanimo
Wewak (after unloading the TF was wiped out by CA Louisville)
Brunei (oil @ 50%)
Aitape

Bases IJA troops landed: Mauban (16 Div(-))

A Dutch bomber raid on Miri showed 1 refinery hit in the combat report, but the industry screen shows no actual damage. Zeroes are providing CAP, but where are his B-17s? And why isn't he using them instead of Dutch bombers?

More running to the rear by the Chinese -

[image]local://upfiles/41215/191DB15A6ACC4B949407C4B743DF4AF6.jpg[/image]




Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/7/2021 7:17:47 AM)

Dec 13, 1941

Bases captured today: Mauban and Sambas

IJA troops landed at Attu Is.

With the previous capture of Palembang and Miri there should now be sufficient fuel to support limited expansion of HI; the following bases expand HI by 10: Tokyo, Yokohama, Kobe, Shanghai, and Saigon.

The current situation on Luzon -

[image]local://upfiles/41215/1CAC181A889A4FAB97EC52E03880D2DC.jpg[/image]

4th Div will arrive at Mauban on the morning of the 14th. 65th Bde will capture Vigan on the 14th, unopposed.






Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/7/2021 4:46:09 PM)

Dec 14, 1941

Bases captured today: Mauban, Vigan, Bayombong, and Praboemoelih (all vacant).

IJA/IJN troops landed at Manus, Kiska, and Amchitka.

We lost a big AO (to a sub) enroute to refueling KB near Miri (with a 4 destroyer escort!)

Hong Kong repair shipyard has been fully repaired (to 50).

A Zero sweep of Wenchow downed 4 AVG planes -

quote:

Morning Air attack on Wenchow , at 89,58

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet


A variety of carrier strikes scored hits -

quote:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Tawi Tawi at 71,89

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
D3A1 Val x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Dos Hermanos, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Candesa, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Don Esteban, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 20 (10 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)


quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tawi Tawi at 71,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 63
B5N2 Kate x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Torpedo hits 1
CL Marblehead
CL Boise, Torpedo hits 1
DD Whipple


[image]local://upfiles/41215/041712652E93468BA99AEDCAF3BFBEAB.jpg[/image]

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 67,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
B5N2 Kate x 65
D3A1 Val x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Hai Kwang, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
TK La Estrella Caltex, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
TK Pendopo, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Yat Shing, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
YO-42, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk



Three less significant strikes not shown. CL Boise is reported sunk, but that's unlikely.





Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/9/2021 11:53:35 AM)

Dec 15, 1941

Bases captured today: Kiska, Amchitka, Manus, Djambi (5 oil damaged of 250).

Re: the map at post #17 -

quote:

Ground combat at Lucena (79,79)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 384 troops, 0 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 83

Defending force 7157 troops, 56 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 282

Japanese adjusted assault: 16

Allied adjusted defense: 67

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Miura Det
2nd Tank Regiment

Defending units:
51st PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
57th PS Infantry Regiment
194th Tank Battalion


I expect a counterattack, but these units will quickly be cut off as 16th Div(-), being reinforced by all of 4th Div from Mauban, will capture Batangas.

The US B-17s are somewhere on Mindanao (probably Cagayan), so 48th Div, which was headed to Sumatra to reinforce 5th Div at Palembang, has been diverted to Mindanao, as southern Sumatra is well in hand. The amphib TF is accompanied by a heavy BB TF and KB, all currently undetected.

[image]local://upfiles/41215/AA94D7DD9D1A443790818CDCAD924840.jpg[/image]

Only the 2nd Formosa Rgt and the engineers will assault Zamboanga; the remainder of the division will land at Cotabato, then proceed to Cagayan. An assault force for Davao is at sea (146 Inf Rgt, 8 Tank Rgt) well east of Mindanao. Aviation support and other reinforcements for Zamboanga are leaving Cam Ranh Bay.





Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/13/2021 12:52:00 PM)

Dec 16, 1941

Bases captured today: Hwaiyin, Ocean Is. (RES 20(0)), Batangas

Places assaulted today: Kuching, Beaufort, Adak, Ocean Is.

Hong Kong harbor was cleared of mines.

The attack at and capture of Batangas separates the US Tank battalions at Lucena from the defense of Manila -

quote:

Ground combat at Batangas (79,78)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10332 troops, 86 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 741

Defending force 5620 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 148

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 151

Allied adjusted defense: 24

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Batangas !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
266 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
7208 casualties reported
Squads: 99 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 270 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 46 (45 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 4 to Manila
Units destroyed 1 ? probably the base force fragment

Assaulting units:
9th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
4th Division
16th Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
27th Avn Sup
41st PA Infantry Division
11th PAAC Avn Sup
II Corps
Nichols Field AAF Base Force /1


even though the US tanks were successful in their attack at Lucena, south of Batangas -

quote:

Ground combat at Lucena (79,79)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6899 troops, 56 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 266

Defending force 1662 troops, 8 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 78

Allied adjusted assault: 202

Japanese adjusted defense: 36

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
288 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 17 (13 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating to Atimonan!

Assaulting units:
51st PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
57th PS Infantry Regiment
194th Tank Battalion

Defending units:
Miura Det
2nd Tank Regiment


Back at Atimonan, Miura Det. combines with Kimura Det. to form 33rd Inf Rgt, part of 16th Div. This unit and the 16th Div units at Batangas will move to Lucena, reform the division and destroy the Lucena defenders before moving north to join 4th Div at Manila.





Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/14/2021 11:56:37 AM)

Dec 17, 1941

Bases captured today: Adak, Chuhsien, Alor Star, Beaufort (all were vacant), and Mergui by parachute drop.

Bases assaulted today: Atka Is., Kavieng

Luzon prior to Dec 18 - 65 Bde will likely capture San Fernando; 4 Div will enter Manila, 16Div(-) from Batangas will enter Lucena.

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Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/14/2021 12:05:02 PM)

Meanwhile, at the southern end of Sumatra, 5 Div has encountered light resistance -

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Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/15/2021 12:48:19 PM)

Dec 18, 1941

Bases captured today: Atla Is., San Fernando, Lahat, Kavieng, Kuching, Pontianak (RES 20(0)).

Bases assaulted today: Zamboanga (2 Formosa Rgt(+)), Kuantan (33 Div); both of these should be captured on the 19th.

And in China -

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Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/16/2021 6:26:36 PM)

Dec 19, 1941

Bases captured today: Chengchow (RES & LI 30(30)), Zamboanga (RES & LI 20(0)), and Lucena.

Bases assaulted today: Cotabato, Umnak, Kudat, and Jesselton (all vacant except Kudat).

quote:

Ground combat at Chengchow (88,44)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 14408 troops, 105 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 464

Defending force 11135 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 172

Japanese adjusted assault: 486

Allied adjusted defense: 86

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chengchow !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
235 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled

Allied ground losses:
9014 casualties reported
Squads: 133 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 239 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (10 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 3 NW to Loyang
Units destroyed 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
28th Engineer Regiment
35th Division
3rd Tank Regiment
24th NCPC Route Brigade
12th Army

Defending units:
15th Chinese Corps
40th Chinese Corps
1st War Area (surrendered)
Jingcha War Area
24th Group Army (surrendered)


On to Loyang!

quote:

Ground combat at Lucena (79,79)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10320 troops, 87 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 320

Defending force 6566 troops, 55 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 206

Japanese adjusted assault: 246

Allied adjusted defense: 37

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lucena !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
235 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3729 casualties reported
Squads: 289 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 378 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 63 (63 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 41 (41 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units surrendered 3 having no retreat route

Assaulting units:
20th Infantry Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
51st PA Infantry Division
57th PS Infantry Regiment
192nd Tank Battalion


The other US tank battalion moved east to Atimonan and attacked, but will be destroyed soon -

quote:

Ground combat at Atimonan (80,79)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 204 troops, 0 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Defending force 5292 troops, 31 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 145

Allied adjusted assault: 3

Japanese adjusted defense: 130

Allied assault odds: 1 to 43 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Assaulting units:
194th Tank Battalion

Defending units:
33rd Infantry Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
2nd Naval Construction Battalion






Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/18/2021 11:57:26 AM)

Dec 20, 1941

Bases captured today: Umnak, Pucheng, Cotabato, Kuantan, Kudat, Jesselton (all vacant except Kuantan and Jesselton)

US CVs (I can't really tell whether it's 1 or 2) off Adak had a field day with Japanese transports -

quote:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Atka Island at 163,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 8
SBD-2 Dauntless x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAP Kanzyu Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Montevideo Maru, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Yamazato Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage


quote:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Ulak Island at 160,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3
TBD-1 Devastator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAP Argentina Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage (sank later with an infantry battalion onboard)

Japanese ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Atka Island at 163,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 8
SBD-2 Dauntless x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Seattle Maru
xAP Kanzyu Maru, heavy fires
xAK Hakkai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Tamagawa Maru


quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Atka Island at 164,52

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3
TBD-1 Devastator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Kuretake Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AMC Awata Maru


While KB pounded Davao -

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on Davao , at 79,91

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 103 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 76
B5N2 Kate x 107
D3A1 Val x 79

Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 33






Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/18/2021 12:19:22 PM)

Dec 21, 1941

Bases captured today: NONE

Bases assaulted today: Wenchow, Subic Bay, Iba, Davao, and Dutch Harbor

A sub put a torpedo in CL Helena near Adak; it's not known whether this CL was part of the CV TF, or a surface force.

Two Japanese attacks in China were significant; the first didn't go too well -

quote:

Ground combat at Sinyang (86,48) (we control the base with level 4 forts)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25225 troops, 205 guns, 47 vehicles, Assault Value = 934

Defending force 31334 troops, 188 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 706

Japanese adjusted assault: 465

Allied adjusted defense: 397

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2513 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 181 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled

Allied ground losses:
590 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 81 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 14 (4 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
58th Infantry Regiment
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
14th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th RGC Temp. Division
116th Division
9th Armored Car Co
18th RGC Temp. Division
52nd Field Const Co
67th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
12th Chinese Corps
13th Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
3rd Group Army
31st Group Army


The second attack, north of Tsiaotso on the minor road to Sian, went better -

quote:

Ground combat at 88,41 (near Kaoping)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 24404 troops, 203 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 1064

Defending force 9004 troops, 73 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 186

Japanese adjusted assault: 487

Allied adjusted defense: 88

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
169 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3808 casualties reported
Squads: 220 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 137 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
37th Division
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
41st Division
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
33rd Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
7th Group Army


In the Aleutians, the US carrier(s) sank 55 VP worth of transports, but 24 Inf Rgt(+) landed at Dutch Harbor prior to transport losses. Other than a few Mavis float planes doing naval search, the Japanese have no land-based aircraft in the Aleutians; we're working on getting some Zeroes and Vals out there, but the airfields need to be upgraded as well. CVs Kaga and Akagi (Carrier Division ONE) has been detached from KB near Babeldaob, sent east to Saipan to link up with the 2 CVLs (Ryujo and Zuiho) under Yamaguchi, and head to the frozen north. In hindsight, it was probably not a good idea to try to grab the Aleutians without air support, although we control everything west of Dutch, and it is contested. Now supply, fuel, and air power are crucial.





Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/20/2021 8:25:06 AM)

Dec 22, 1941

Bases captured today: Subic Bay and Davao (RES 20(0))

Bases assaulted today: Oroquieta and Dumanquilas

Only one TF operating in the Aleutians is still detected, and quite some distance from the retiring US carriers. When the Japanese return with supply, fuel, reinforcements, air power, etc. it will be under cover of 2 CVs and 2 CVLs.

The Djambi oil facility has been repaired.





Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/20/2021 4:05:40 PM)

Dec 23, 1941

Bases captured today: Oroquieta, Cabanatuan, Tavoy (RES 10(0)), Dumanquilas, Digos (all vacant except Cabanatuan; all on Mindanao except Tavoy)

Bases assaulted today: Dadjangas

US naval forces bombarded effectively the Japanese ground force at Dutch Harbor; the US carriers also attacked, but did very little damage.

HI is being expanded by 10 at these bases: Saigon, Nanking, Canton (China), Port Arthur, and Fukuoka.

The Japanese are abandoning Ichang; the force is currently surrounded, and will withdraw to the east across the river. The Chinese have an AV advantage of 1479 to our 559 at Ichang, but got a bloody nose when they attacked on the 22nd, so did not attack on the 23rd -

quote:

Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 51552 troops, 275 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1479

Defending force 20106 troops, 137 guns, 90 vehicles, Assault Value = 559

Allied adjusted assault: 796

Japanese adjusted defense: 813

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (Japanese fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
592 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 71 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1516 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 105 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
67th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
34th Division
2nd Ind Engineer Regiment
13th RGC Temp. Division
11th Army
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment






Uncivil Engineer -> RE: Act III - DBB-C Uncivil Engineer (J) vs. christopher 1963 (A) (2/21/2021 12:12:41 PM)

Dec 24, 1941

Bases captured today: Benkoelen, Dadjangas, and Georgetown (HI 5(1))

Bases assaulted today: Balabac and Sandakan

On Luzon, 4 Tank Rgt will enter Clark Field within a day or two, cutting the retreat route for Allied units at Iba, Lingayen, and Manila. I don't expect this situation to last more than one day, but with shock attacks around the perimeter we may get lucky -

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