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Harrybanana -> RE: What To Do With Russia (9/21/2021 4:05:42 AM)
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ORIGINAL: battlevonwar
Earlier this year you saw me face down the greatest Allied Player in Warplan Europe as far as I know. Nobody does what he does and what you all fail to do. You do not use the Western Allies aggressively enough to alleviate the burden upon the Russians. Mr. ComradejaKorp, if he doesn't play anymore(you could read our AARs if any exist or any of his exist and follow his recipe) I understand he made me fight till Berlin was on the verge of falling the last turns of the game. I couldn't ever destroy the Soviets vs Him for the pressure in the West was ever present. He never relented. You guys take breaks in your grand strategy allowing the Axis to steamroll the Russians and that's why you lose so easily in the East.
The fact is the British/Americans/Canadians have to get dirty and get their pretty little units destroyed. They have to threaten every inch of the Reich and every port/position they can step into they must do. They have to fight for France till the last British Dies and that's how you Defend the Soviets at least as of the Patch of around the beginning of the year and I do not believe the economic system has been re-worked so therefore I have handed you all the recipe to defend the Soviets.
It's nearly impossible in competent hands for the Axis to survive and experienced Allied Player. I only managed a technical victory vs him 1 time and I really had to think out of the box to achieve this. He had Italy, France and near historical conquest of Eastern Europe and Germany. The only thing I think that allowed me to win is I killed probably 3 or 4 Million Brits and about as many Americans.
If there is a turn you're not invading Europe with a competent Ally he is not competent. The Axis thrive on time and rest(that's when they can refit and smash you)!
As far as defending the Soviets, the Air gets better but initially once the bled Axis try to hurt you they get a bit far in there, you just have to hold the line, wait for '42 and the Axis will have to respond to the Western Allies in Force so much to the point that nothing will happen till '43. This should be pretty easy. . . By '44 you should wear the Axis down in manpower(unless these rules have changed) that they have to dig into Romania/Hungary and Italy just to man a few defenses. The core counter offensive Axis are just reacting to the constant Massive Invasions.
Allies are Flush with Cash it just takes time for them to use it. Axis are short on it and they get easily bled and their Manpower is abysmal for the Germans.
P.S. Axis Air is disgusting later in the game, it is so frail it cannot even build up enough effectiveness and tech to bother surviving past '44. Probably even '43.
P.S.S. The reason why you have heavily experienced Axis tanks is you didn't fight in other places ... France + early D-Day is the key. A D-Day where the Axis know they must un-entrench you and they have to wear out their armor doing it. Where they cannot get away with taking every piece of real-estate for free and getting Free XP.
Follow my recipe the right way if you can figure out to replicate it and Yeah Russia will have to lose 1 Major City but not likely 2.
(Final Point: Germany has a Tiny bit of Manpower, she has all the production she needs late game she just can't maintain her units, their experience and or build new ones... Once you kill her Manpower RIP Germany and UK/USA with the Soviets dying in droves just are a tidal wave they can't deal with in the end. I had so much cash vs Comrade I was sending as much of my Production as I could to my Axis Allies and I was still flush with cash without any use for it... Germany just doesn't have the manpower when constantly engaged in the early game to last the late game unless a rework was done so that's the attrition Warfare that saves the Russians from defeat) KEY IS: how to bleed the Germans cleverly and not get smashed(clever choices, locations, landings and constant engagements and neverending Truck Supply)
ComradejaKorps is a good player and the only player so far to beat me as the Allies with me as the Axis. But he beat me by dropping French and British paratroopers into Italy in 1940. After that we played a more conventional game. He tried invading everywhere as you say, but the end result was the Axis conquering Russia in 41 or 42. The game is balanced enough that the more skilled player will generally win no matter which side he plays. But a good German Player will beat a good Allied player pretty much ever time. I think perfect examples are my AARs with Sveint. In my game as the Allies I was aggressive with the British and had pretty much captured Libya by the time the Germans surrounded and isolated the best part of the Russian Army in August 1941. In my game as the Germans I was able to cripple the Russians while still maintaining a sizeable army (including 3 mechanized corps) to watch the British. Also the ability of the British and Americans to launch large invasions (4+ Corps requiring 120 LS) is now a lot more difficult due to the need to use their limited shipyards to build MS and escorts.
I play both the Axis and the Allies equally. But to anyone who thinks that the game is balanced I will gladly play the Axis and prove you wrong.
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