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kkoovvoo -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/5/2006 9:54:12 PM)
Hi PzB, are all those ships in port one Air combat TF? 20 ships seems a bit much to me. Or are they mixed with other ships?

Honda -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/5/2006 10:59:02 PM)
That's just for transit purposes.

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/5/2006 11:53:01 PM)
Yep, wanted to keep a reserve in the Home Islands. The escort carrier division is further north with the Mutsu and 6 destroyers. Ideally I would like such strong support for any 2 carriers - my problem is that I have too few escorts and too many carriers. Difficult to organize both a strong KB and a strong surface combat group. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/24/44 Sub/ASW Attacks Lots of engagements..another US sub reported sunk! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 34,48 Japanese Ships PC Ch 19 PC Shonan Maru #2 PC Kyo Maru #7 PC Kanju PC Etoforu Allied Ships SS Balao -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 34,48 Japanese Ships PC Ch 19 PC Shonan Maru #2 PC Kyo Maru #7 PC Kanju PC Etoforu Allied Ships SS Balao, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 33,50 Japanese Ships PC Seki Maru #2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage sinks PC Ch 11 PC Ch 9 PC Ch 3 PC Takuna Maru #7 PC Sonan Maru #6 PG Yoshida Maru Allied Ships SS Dace --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CapAndGown -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/7/2006 3:23:07 AM)
I just had an interesting idea for your defensive plans. You note that for any major invasion he will have to stick around the area for a good while with his carriers to defend the invasion force. That time, obviously, can be used to launch a massive air assault in an attempt to get at his carriers. Meanwhile, fast surface forces might be able to slip in during the night to try to engage his invasion fleets and race back out of the range of his carriers before day break. Originally I was thinking about bringing the KB into action during this period when his carriers are protecting the invasion fleet. But now I am thinking differently. I doubt that he will be able to conquer your bases very quickly. Indeed, I am thinking that his carrier and surface forces will have to withdraw for resupply (at the very least for soritie purposes) well before the time the island under attack has fallen. That being the case, you would have a window where you could slip in another division to bolster the defenses of base being attacked. This would then devolve into a long, bloody siege that would require him to operate a supply train to keep the assault going. This supply train, then, could become a target for the KB if you could tell where its base of operations was. Alternatively, protecting this supply train will keep a segment of his carrier force constantly engaged, wearing it down, and perhaps reducing its strength as portions of it would have to be rotated for resupply and repair purposes. It would be this somewhat depleted carrier force that the KB could attempt to attack.

Alikchi2 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/7/2006 4:24:20 AM)
That's a very interesting thought... Of course the most damaging thing PzB could do to Andy is knock out his carriers. But it's also the hardest. Raids deep behind Andy's supply lines, or even into the eastern Pacific, are a tempting alternative.

veji1 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/7/2006 10:48:14 AM)
well that's kind of what he did already in Kavieng, which eventually got bypassed... But then I guess this was also due to the fact that there were many bases in the area not that well protected at that time (By PZB standards I mean). Of course, in case of an invasion of the marianas, things would be very different... My guess is that he already has that kind of mobile reserve been thought of and organised... It is up to Andy to protect the invasion spot with surface forces to avoid a counter landing... With the Kavieng lesson, I think he would not let that happen again..

Honda -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/7/2006 12:58:46 PM)
A night naval surface strike would also be interesting having in mind how much capital ships USN had lost so far. At least two bombardment forces would already have depleted most of their ammo by the time Combined fleet came to play. If only day surface action yielded better results it would be possible to utterly destroy the invasion fleet as per the original IJN plan for the decisive battle. First the destroyers and cruisers come in during the night long lancing the enemy fleet and at first light the main battle line appears on the horizon blasting everything in sight[:D]. A Japanese fanboy's wet dream... Of course, such a scenario is impossible since the main battle line would have to sit through two phases of air combat before deciding to engage the enemy. Which in turn doesn't have to be such a problem...If KB is around it will draw most of the attacks leaving the surface fleet alone. Only a few strikes might target the BBs and it would be a good diversion from KB, maybe just enough for it to stay afloat. But it all sounds a bit too much like a suicide mission. With USN CVs around unharmed the day after would be a bloodbath for IJN...But if a strong strike could come in from the Marianas...who knows what could happen[&:]

Sneer -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/7/2006 1:50:34 PM)
the only problem is that main battle line would not sink more than dozen of transport during day fights :-) so it doesn't make sense at all with current game model

Honda -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/7/2006 2:36:08 PM)
Yup...

Fornadan -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/7/2006 2:51:44 PM)
You'll most likely sink more transports with 10 PTs than 10 BBs

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/7/2006 5:08:04 PM)
Thx for all the good ideas folks, appreciate it! Will examine them thoroughly [8D] There are SO MANY opportunities - the majority of them will end in failure unless planning and execution are flawless. That's also the charm of it, I'll probably only get one shot at it. My ISP has been down for a few days and I will post the last few combat reports later tonight. Got more good news to share with you: My research paper was accepted by ECIS - European Conference on Information Systems [:D][&o]

Fishbed -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/7/2006 6:12:32 PM)
Good nice for you PzB! congrats! Btw, if even ECIS decided to stand by your side, tell me what kind of hope is left to the Allies truly? [:D][;)]

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/8/2006 2:35:37 AM)
Thx, it was most welcome news! Didn't expect it since I'm not a professional researcher...like you [;)] Just like this WitP game it was my first attempt! Here is the last combat report: Andy is moving his fleet towards the Solomons - guess the next push will take place in New Guinea. Me thinks he needs some R&R for his ships now. They've all been moving around at high speed for quite some time. I'm still keeping a low profile, want to be 100% ready when the time comes! If Andy's ships are only at 90% so much better. Concerning future strategies in the Central Pacific: it's all in the eyes of the beholder now! I'm really not sure what's a valid strategy and what's not - BUT I agree with Cap & Gown and Honda. Andy will be forced to stick a long for quite some time and cracks will appear in his armor, and that's when we nail him [sm=00000028.gif] It all depends on his chosen approach: I'm guessing he will occupy most of New Guinea to secure bases that can support an LBA offensive against the Palaus. After reducing my air fields he will move his carriers in and support a heavy landing. So it's therefore essential to have a strong presence in the area and I'm planning to keep my strategic reserves in Palau, Yap and Ulithi. The substantial air lift capacity Japan now possess makes it possible to airlift a full division in a matter of days (Received a 36 ac Tabby and 36 ac Tina Daitai some weeks ago). After forcing Andy to pound at our forts for a while he will become vulnerable! Be advised that the last few invasions faced very few mines. My middle name is 'Mine' - so rest assured that it won't be so easy in the future [:D] In a few months substantial sub reinforcements will arrive (the RO Class) and these will take care of any damaged ships trying to get home. This is when the Combined Fleet strikes: as Cap & Gown points out - the enemy will be forced to use his ships to escort his carriers, transports as well as conduct bombardments and surface combat missions. There will be opportunities, but we have to seize them! Failure is not an option. The future of the Empire depends on this one great effort! (heard that one before:-) AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/25/44 Air Combat Lots of bombing attacks against Ponape, the Admiralities and New Guinea bases. Ground Combat Will Andy bring his troops back to Kavieng now as he knows I've evacuated? He felt a bit cheated <G> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Eniwetok Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 27884 troops, 349 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 4243 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Japanese ground losses: 238 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kavieng Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 4794 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 5403 troops, 116 guns, 0 vehicles --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/9/2006 11:00:56 PM)
The war in the Pacific may proceed at a slower pace from now on: I've gotten a new job in Stavanger (160 clicks from here). So I will have to move and the new posistion will take up a lot of my time. Arabia IS out Pauk [;)] Kinda wish it weren't... third week with snow and winter up here now [:(] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/26/44 Some opportunities that can't be seized as Andy continues to move shipping from the Marshalls towards the Solomons. My carriers can't reach a lone cv replenishment group in time. This is the penalty from having our fleet carriers back at Davao. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1045 encounters mine field at Sag Sag (57,88) - sub laid mines Allied Ships SS Devilfish, and is sunk [:)] DE Emery DE Elden -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Building an air reserve at Clark More and more trained air groups are being transfered from China: more on the way! [image]local://upfiles/1466/EE66D51FA46E497C81C8CE221F3EC9E3.gif[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/10/2006 1:09:23 AM)
16 more days until more air reinforcements arrive. Includes 72 Tonys this time, they always come in handy. It's a waiting game now.... AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/27/44 Sub/ASW Attacks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A convoy carrying an aviation regiment and HQ was interecpeted by a sub. Fortunately I got that regiment divided on 5 transports! Always use more transports than you need to reduce casualties in case of sub attacks. Sub attack at 54,53 Japanese Ships AP Mitakesan Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage sinks MSW Fukeui Maru #7 PC Kyo Maru #12 MSW Hanata Maru #6 MSW W.9 APD APD-34 Allied Ships - the apd carries loads of depth charges... SS Wahoo, hits 1, on fire Japanese ground losses: 138 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Attacks Several targets in New Guinea were hit! A first time for Sarmi...got troops, supplies and forts in place. Casualties were light. Day Air attack on Sarmi , at 48,78 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 45 B-24J Liberator x 58 No Allied losses Runway hits 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 75,82 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Liberator VI x 11 B-25J Mitchell x 27 PB4Y Liberator x 24 B-24D Liberator x 21 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged Airbase hits 16 Airbase supply hits 6 Runway hits 86 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Dagua , at 51,81 Allied aircraft Boomerang II x 17 A-20G Havoc x 14 B-25J Mitchell x 67 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 29 casualties reported Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 49 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Hansa , at 53,83 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 13 PB4Y Liberator x 10 B-24J Liberator x 23 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported Airbase hits 4 Runway hits 41 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/10/2006 7:40:35 PM)
We're getting close to February 44 - another few months and things will get serious. The new air groups take more time to train: they arrive with poor leaders, poor skills and poor morale. Lots of Frances bombers fall out of the skies even on 'training missions'. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/28/44 Air Combat The US carriers passing by Kavieng launched several large strikes today! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kavieng , at 61,86 Allied aircraft SB2C Helldiver x 53 TBM Avenger x 24 Spitfire VIII x 9 Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Port hits 4 Port supply hits 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kavieng , at 61,86 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 2 SB2C Helldiver x 219 TBM Avenger x 187 Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged Japanese ground losses: 38 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Port hits 15 Port supply hits 30 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This strike nevertheless took of from Kavieng and hit an auxilliary group. Unfortunately only a msw was hit! Day Air attack on TF at 66,89 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 7 G4M2 Betty x 6 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged G4M2 Betty: 6 damaged Allied Ships DD Hoel MSW Ballarat, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Hunt DD O'Bannon ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

pauk -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/10/2006 10:47:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB The war in the Pacific may proceed at a slower pace from now on: I've gotten a new job in Stavanger (160 clicks from here). So I will have to move and the new posistion will take up a lot of my time. Arabia IS out Pauk [;)] Kinda wish it weren't... third week with snow and winter up here now [:(] Dont worry, during the hollydays you can always came to Croatia (Adriatic sea) [:)] Did you mean that you have to travel everyday to Stavenger[X(]? PS.... What about Shinano? (She could be great magnet for Allied beasts while KB waiting in ambush)

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/11/2006 8:03:14 PM)
Sounds like a plan Pauk [8D] Hopefully my new job will make for more longer and better hollidays...starting next year! No, I have to move and find a new apartment in Stavanger. 160km is too long to drive and if you add a ferry and road toll the cost grows prohibitive. The Shinano is probably not worth the effort - would have to accelerate here in mid 44 and even then it would be 500+ days before she would be ready. Then we would be in late 45 and I doubt I need another bomb magned by then [8\|] US Carrier fleets now at Rabaul! AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/29/44 USS Rasher hit by asw ac west of Hong Kong. Air Combat Increased activity in the air - showing most of the attacks today. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Aru Island , at 39,80 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 20 Ki-46-III Dinah x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied ground losses: 19 casualties reported Runway hits 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78 Allied aircraft Boomerang II x 12 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 38 P-40N Warhawk x 23 P-38J Lightning x 24 F-5A Lightning x 6 B-25J Mitchell x 63 Allied aircraft losses P-40N Warhawk: 3 damaged B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 52 casualties reported Airbase hits 9 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 78 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Sarmi , at 48,78 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 38 B-24J Liberator x 54 No Allied losses Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 47 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 75,82 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Liberator VI x 10 B-25J Mitchell x 25 PB4Y Liberator x 14 B-24D Liberator x 13 Japanese aircraft losses H8K Emily: 2 destroyed Ki-46-III Dinah: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 58 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Dagua , at 51,81 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 18 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 6 B-25J Mitchell x 55 No Allied losses Port hits 2 Port supply hits 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Dagua , at 51,81 Allied aircraft Boomerang II x 15 P-38J Lightning x 10 P-47D Thunderbolt x 17 A-20G Havoc x 9 B-25J Mitchell x 60 No Allied losses Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 59 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Dagua , at 51,81 Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 77 No Allied losses Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 71 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kavieng , at 61,86 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 10 Spitfire VIII x 3 A-20G Havoc x 14 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Admiralty Islands , at 58,84 Allied aircraft F-5C Lightning x 4 B-25J Mitchell x 30 No Allied losses Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 36 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 51st Road Construction Battalion, at 51,81 Allied aircraft P-47D Thunderbolt x 18 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 51st Road Construction Battalion, at 51,81 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk III x 19 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 24 P-40N Warhawk x 53 P-38J Lightning x 2 P-47D Thunderbolt x 3 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 35 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kavieng , at 61,86 Allied aircraft SB2C Helldiver x 211 TBM Avenger x 147 Spitfire VIII x 8 Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged TBM Avenger: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 28 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Port hits 11 Port supply hits 13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No CAP over Eniwetok...Bettys from Wake scored some hits! Day Air attack on TF, near Eniwetok at 76,74 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 4 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships AP William P. Biddle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Eniwetok at 76,74 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 20 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged Allied Ships LCT LCT-152, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Samuel W. Williston AK Josiah G. Holland, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK John W. Foster --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/12/2006 4:43:18 PM)
Two more days and we receive our fist MLE - much needed! Will perfom her duties in the Marianas/Palaus over the next few months before moving on to the Philippines. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/30/44 2 subs hit by asw ac - tried to intercept enemy convoys in the 'gap' with subs - but they refuse to attack even unescorted cargo ships [:(] Sub doctrine on doesn't allow for sound reason and I bet 99.9% of players turn it off. So why don't remove it altogether? Ground Combat Andy tried to capture Kavieng and finish of our samurais at Eniwetok - encoruaging results for the Empire [8D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Eniwetok Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 14040 troops, 236 guns, 6 vehicles Defending force 3680 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 62 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 94 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 84 casualties reported Guns lost 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kavieng - even the puny remnants put up a fierce fight behind the strong fortifications. Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 12974 troops, 93 guns, 137 vehicles Defending force 4730 troops, 113 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9) Japanese ground losses: 211 casualties reported Guns lost 13 Allied ground losses: 204 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Vehicles lost 1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/12/2006 9:48:01 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/31/44 Sub/ASW Attacks Another US sub hit by asw ac! Tried to intercept an enemy carrier replenishment TF with two subs: both were positioned perfectly and one even hit a tanker before being sunk. So frustrating to see my subs sunk by super kablammos [:(] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 68,90 Japanese Ships SS I-35, hits 7, on fire, heavy damage sinks Allied Ships AE Daniel S. Lamont AO Saranac DD Braine DD Bradford DD Boyd DD Bennett DD Beale CVE Manila Bay -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 67,90 Japanese Ships SS I-33, hits 3, on fire Allied Ships TK Caribou, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Empire Cameron AK Peter Silvester AK Mormacport TK M.E. Lombardi TK J.A. Moffett SC SC-705 SC SC-635 DMS Howard DMS Palmer APD Herbert DE Sederstrom -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 67,90 Japanese Ships SS I-33, hits 6, on fire, heavy damage sinks Allied Ships AO Cache DD Duncan DD Buchanan DD Laffey -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Andy is getting impatient... Ground combat at Eniwetok Allied Shock attack Attacking force 14044 troops, 232 guns, 5 vehicles Defending force 3568 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 157 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 254 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 33 casualties reported ------------------------------------------------------------------ Enemy force concentration Pretty sure Andy will move northwards in New Guinea shortly. Me thinks he will bypass Hansa and Wewak and try a landing on Aitape or Dagua. Will be hard to hold by I got 200 transports that can airlift a full division in a matter of days in the Palaus. It's really tempting to sortie my naval bombers and carriers against all these tempting targets - BUT they're covered by hundreds of Hellcats and even more level/medium bombers can penetrate even a full KB CAP. Tried that once before [8\|] [image]local://upfiles/1466/164515DACB334E1B833F6F775E9B0155.gif[/image]

Odox -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/13/2006 11:20:22 AM)
Hi PzB! Been thoroughly enjoying your AAR! Many threads have referred me to you and to this thread as the very best of IJ tactics and strategy. I concur! Congratulations also to your 100K hits on this AAR . . . much deserved! PzB, I have been following this thread for about a month now, read the whole thing as fast as I could . . . it's totally engrossing, as you and so many others know. I've been interested in the WWII Pacific War for many years, and any number of websites have called WITP the very best of the WWII Pacific strategy computer games available. No, I haven't purchased the game yet, for the simple reason that there seem to be so many irregularities in the gameplay. Perhaps Matrix and 2by3 could understand I'd be willing to spend several hundred dollars for a simulation that wasn't so irregular and buggy. Irregardless PzB, you're doing a masterful job. My hat's off to you sir! You present a most spirited attitude and a most clever gameplay! You're certainly deserving of all this praise being heaped upon you. All the best! Odox

Sneer -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/13/2006 11:25:08 AM)
severel hundreds? [&:] it doesn't cost as much and there is no point in waiting too

pauk -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/13/2006 6:09:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Odox No, I haven't purchased the game yet, for the simple reason that there seem to be so many irregularities in the gameplay. Perhaps Matrix and 2by3 could understand I'd be willing to spend several hundred dollars for a simulation that wasn't so irregular and buggy. Odox Hi, probably wont change your mind but... WiTP isnt soo buggy (especially with last patch). Still there is dissapearing unit but (but i believe that we players are quite responsible for that by dividing units into numerous cadres - ok, waiting for be shoted from naysayers) There some "irregulars" in the game indeed (uber Corsairs, uber CAP, game moving too fast) but don't judge that this is game killer (yes, there are few posters who constantly complains but silent majority plays this game for last 2 years!) Shortly: is it a perfect (historical) simulation - no. Is it a best historical simulation ever made - yes! (I'm playing just WiTP last two years)

castor troy -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/13/2006 6:43:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pauk quote: ORIGINAL: Odox No, I haven't purchased the game yet, for the simple reason that there seem to be so many irregularities in the gameplay. Perhaps Matrix and 2by3 could understand I'd be willing to spend several hundred dollars for a simulation that wasn't so irregular and buggy. Odox Hi, probably wont change your mind but... WiTP isnt soo buggy (especially with last patch). Still there is dissapearing unit but (but i believe that we players are quite responsible for that by dividing units into numerous cadres - ok, waiting for be shoted from naysayers) There some "irregulars" in the game indeed (uber Corsairs, uber CAP, game moving too fast) but don't judge that this is game killer (yes, there are few posters who constantly complains but silent majority plays this game for last 2 years!) Shortly: is it a perfect (historical) simulation - no. Is it a best historical simulation ever made - yes! (I'm playing just WiTP last two years) Pauk, you�ll get called a Jap fanboy who tries to make this game EVEN MORE PRO JAPANESE when you�re talking about uber Corsairs! But I�m with your oppinion! [;)]

anarchyintheuk -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/13/2006 10:38:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy quote: ORIGINAL: pauk quote: ORIGINAL: Odox No, I haven't purchased the game yet, for the simple reason that there seem to be so many irregularities in the gameplay. Perhaps Matrix and 2by3 could understand I'd be willing to spend several hundred dollars for a simulation that wasn't so irregular and buggy. Odox Hi, probably wont change your mind but... WiTP isnt soo buggy (especially with last patch). Still there is dissapearing unit but (but i believe that we players are quite responsible for that by dividing units into numerous cadres - ok, waiting for be shoted from naysayers) There some "irregulars" in the game indeed (uber Corsairs, uber CAP, game moving too fast) but don't judge that this is game killer (yes, there are few posters who constantly complains but silent majority plays this game for last 2 years!) Shortly: is it a perfect (historical) simulation - no. Is it a best historical simulation ever made - yes! (I'm playing just WiTP last two years) Pauk, you�ll get called a Jap fanboy who tries to make this game EVEN MORE PRO JAPANESE when you�re talking about uber Corsairs! But I�m with your oppinion! [;)] I'm not. [;)] Take a chance Odox, you won't find many games that you still play 2 years after you bought it. Now, back to the aar.

Mynok -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/13/2006 11:13:12 PM)
quote: you won't find many games that you still play 2 years after you bought it. Won't find many games you haven't finished yet 2 years after you bought it either, but it's all fun. [;)]

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/13/2006 11:26:58 PM)
Odox, thx for the superlatives - can never get enough of them [:D] It's a great and fun challenge to write an AAR with so many readers. The fall of India created a situation that can't easily be dubplicated! Still I'm glad to hear that you enjoy it - I support the comments made by Pauk, Castor and Anarchy; WitP is worth a fistful of dollars [:)] These AARs is a good way to promote the games and I guess that's why Matrix allows us to store such wast amount of data here. Gawd, there must be a gigabyte in this one alone... As for the bugs and game killers: I've not found anyone that would qualify for the latter, but there are still issues that needs to be addressed - personally I find house rules, a good sense of humor and a bit of imagination to be adequate. If there's a will there's a way! Ok, back to the war.... Today I released the Arshan Garrison Regiment from Kwantung for 750 pp. Going to New Guinea, trying to turn the northern part of the island into a fortress. Two artillery regiments are loading at Rangoon and will head for Morotai and Menando. Finally repaired all of the 54 Georges that were upgraded a few weeks ago. Advanced flight training will commence asap. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/01/44 SS I-120 hit by enemy asw ac of Kavieng - 36 sys and 86 flood damage [:(] Air Combat Several heavy air raids that destroyed 20 ac on the ground at Truk and Kusaie Island. Had to accept replacements to get the air unit out of there. If I only could ask for 1 instead of 9 ac... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 22 PB4Y Liberator x 12 B-24J Liberator x 78 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed L2D2 Tabby: 3 destroyed Ki-46-III Dinah: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 18 damaged Japanese ground losses: 74 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Airbase hits 13 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 73 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 75,82 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Liberator VI x 10 B-25J Mitchell x 19 PB4Y Liberator x 17 B-24D Liberator x 19 Japanese aircraft losses H8K Emily: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 8 Runway hits 73 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Only the remnants of 1 naval garrison left now! Ground combat at Eniwetok Allied Shock attack Attacking force 14092 troops, 233 guns, 6 vehicles Defending force 1965 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 366 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 378 casualties reported ------------------------------------------------------------------- MLE delivered This MLE arrived today: it's a must for all mine fanboys and I should have ordered 10 2 years ago [:'(] [image]local://upfiles/1466/11E493CC74D342319E235E37610B1281.gif[/image]

WhoCares -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/14/2006 12:00:12 PM)
I-120 is one of the minelaying subs (120-123, iirc), right? Would certainly hurt to lose one of them. How do the others fair? Are there actually other minelaying subs in the OOB for the later war or are these the only ones?! 2nd Lt. Izumida looks like a promising man - you might consider to put him on another ship. He should at least qualify to command some secondary escort/ASW vessels, e.g. PG, PC, MSW or maybe even an APD. His rank most likely disqualifies him for higher commands - DDs require something like a Commander, iirc... Don't commanders occasionally get promoted by chance or maybe even performance?

Terminus -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/14/2006 12:09:05 PM)
I'm sure he meant I-121, and yeah, that's one of those solid-gold minelayers...

PzB74 -> RE: Shropshire buys 2 (3/14/2006 3:32:55 PM)
Good news, it was the I-20 that was hit and is sinking [:)] Flood 94 now. More and more of my capital ships are being moved back to the 'front' Only the Mutsu and Ise are stuck at 4 sys damage at Singapore and Tokyo. 3 of my heavy cruisers are down to 14-16 sys damage, only the Maya still requires substantial reparis at 48 sys. The carrier Hiyo will load 4 airgroups and join the fleet as soon as the last 6 sys points have been fixed. Another 10 days and more air reinforcements arrive - also got 5 mixed Inf brigades on their way. Not sure where I should deploy them. Perhaps they can relieve more combat ready formations in the rear - then I can send the latter to the 'junction'. I will withdraw one regiment of a crack division from Hansa, pretty sure Andy will bypass this heavily fortified region. Biak and Noemfoor have to be protected as they both got large airfields within range of the Palaus, DEI and PI. Seems like Andy's carriers have gathered at Finschafen: let me guess - a northward jump towards Aitape/Dagua is in the progress? AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/02/44 Air Attacks Another 2 US subs reported hit by asw ac! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 21 PB4Y Liberator x 12 B-24J Liberator x 55 Japanese aircraft losses L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses PB4Y Liberator: 3 damaged B-24J Liberator: 7 damaged Japanese ground losses: 52 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 25 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 106 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carrier attack: Day Air attack on Hansa , at 53,83 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 15 SB2C Helldiver x 24 TBM Avenger x 136 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported Port hits 6 Port supply hits 19 --------------------------------------------------------------

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