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RE: Simple Survey - 5/7/2009 11:33:21 PM   
Froonp


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SamuraiProgrammer

At First

Solitaire 5% or less
Hotseat 0%
AI Opponent 70-75%
NetPlay 25% (or zero depending on preferences of my friend who will buy the game)
PBEM 0% (or 25% depending on preferences of my friend who will buy the game)

The total of NetPlay and PBEM should be 25%

After I have had it a while

Solitaire 25%
Hotseat 0%
AI Opponent 25%
NetPlay 25% (guessing)
PBEM 25% (guessing)

The total of NetPlay and PBEM should be 50%



Could you cast one vote only please ?

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RE: Simple Survey - 5/7/2009 11:42:17 PM   
Shannon V. OKeets

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SewerStarFish

Solitaire, almost completely -- though I'd play solitaire by hotseat if you think there'll be no AI.

You answer confuses me. Are we attaching the same meaning to the word Solitaire? Please see my original post describing what I mean by the word Solitaire.

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RE: Simple Survey - 5/7/2009 11:54:34 PM   
marcuswatney

 

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quote:

Solitaire - you play both sides and make all decisions.

Head-to-head (Hotseat) - two players use a single computer, with the players taking turns moving their units/making decisions using the same mouse and keyboard.

AI Opponent - the player takes one side and the Artificial Intellengent Opponent plays the other.

NetPlay - 2 to 6 players with each player having his own computer; there are game 'sessions' where all the players log into the game and communicate their decisions using the internet.

PBEM - Play by email for 2 players, with all decisions communicated via email (an option to temporarily switch to NetPlay if they so desire).

Solitaire: 3%
Head-to-head: 0%
AI: 35%
NetPlay: 10%
PBEM (with NetPlay when both are on-line simultaneously): 52%

I am assuming the PBEM method will be something like Cyberboard, not literally sending emails.

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Post #: 33
RE: Simple Survey - 5/7/2009 11:59:02 PM   
paulderynck


Posts: 8201
Joined: 3/24/2007
From: Canada
Status: offline 		Solitaire - 5%

Head-to-head (Hotseat) - 0%

AI Opponent - 0%

NetPlay - 20%

PBEM - 75%

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Post #: 34
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 12:24:54 AM   
christo

 

Posts: 99
Joined: 11/24/2005
From: adelaide, australia
Status: offline 		solitaire 5%
ai opponent 50%
net play 45%

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Post #: 35
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 12:26:18 AM   
undercovergeek

 

Posts: 1526
Joined: 11/21/2006
From: UK
Status: offline 		against AI - 5% to check evil plans

PBEM - 95%

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Post #: 36
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 12:54:57 AM   
michaelbaldur


Posts: 4774
Joined: 4/6/2007
From: denmark
Status: offline 		Solitaire: 0%
Head-to-head: 0%
AI: 50%
NetPlay: 25%
PBEM: 25%

< Message edited by michaelbaldur -- 5/8/2009 12:55:03 AM >

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Post #: 37
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 1:44:22 AM   
planetbrain


Posts: 88
Joined: 1/27/2006
Status: offline 		Solitaire - 20%
AI Opponent -80%
I know, human opponents are always better, but I never have that sort of time or commitment.

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Post #: 38
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 2:07:22 AM   
bo

 

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Joined: 5/1/2009
Status: offline 		Solitaire 50% until I become more knowleable in using both sides allies and axis.
Solitaire therafter 10%
AI 90% after initial learning period.

Willy

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Post #: 39
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 2:30:10 AM   
Missouri Rebel

 

Posts: 121
Joined: 6/20/2008
Status: offline 		Solitare- 3%

Hot Seat- 0%

A.I.- 95%

netplay- 2%

pbem-0%

but then again....I am a noob


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Post #: 40
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 3:00:29 AM   
Mad Russian


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

I would like to have a better idea of which modes of play are going to be used.

There are 5 modes of play:

Solitaire - you play both sides and make all decisions.


I will use this to test specific gaming situations. I won't "play" this way. 0%

quote:


Head-to-head (Hotseat) - two players use a single computer, with the players taking turns moving their units/making decisions using the same mouse and keyboard.


I don't have anybody local to play this way. 0%

quote:


AI Opponent - the player takes one side and the Artificial Intellengent Opponent plays the other.


I would possibly play this way to test out the capabilities of units and game mechanics. I would not play games this way. 0%

quote:


NetPlay - 2 to 6 players with each player having his own computer; there are game 'sessions' where all the players log into the game and communicate their decisions using the internet.


This is the way to play WiF. It may be hard to get 4-6 players together at the same time. 20%

quote:


PBEM - Play by email for 2 players, with all decisions communicated via email (an option to temporarily switch to NetPlay if they so desire).


This is the way that I will play most of my games. 80%

quote:


Which mode of play do you expect to use?

Could you please put your answers in percentages? It would be nice it the percentages added up to 100% too.

Short and simple answers would be best for this thread. If there are other discussions on this topic, I would prefer a new thread (or some other existing thread) be used.


Thanks for your efforts Steve. I appreciate it.

Good Hunting.

MR


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Post #: 41
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 3:57:32 AM   
Harold Haralson

 

Posts: 15
Joined: 12/24/2004
Status: offline 		AI 100%

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Post #: 42
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 3:59:18 AM   
Gneisenau

 

Posts: 22
Joined: 7/17/2004
From: Virginia
Status: offline 		AI Opponent = 95%
PBEM = 5%


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Post #: 43
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 4:15:10 AM   
macgregor


Posts: 990
Joined: 2/10/2004
Status: offline 		Netplay is all I expect to play. I may explore the new methods of play, but I'm pretty set with a pbem game and the AI will mean nothing to me.

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Post #: 44
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 5:19:34 AM   
norvandave


Posts: 85
Joined: 2/24/2004
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Status: offline 		AI - 95%
PBEM - 5%

Need a good AI please.

Go Steve Go!

Go Canucks!

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Post #: 45
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 5:31:33 AM   
norvandave


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From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Status: offline 		The survey itself concerns me. I hope the work on the AI will NOT be cut back if there are not enough votes. It seems to me from reading the very good monthly updates that there does not seem to have been much testing on the AI this close to the release date.

Should I be concerned?

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Post #: 46
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 5:45:46 AM   
Klingon


Posts: 52
Joined: 5/18/2006
Status: offline 		Solitaire - 0%

Head-to-head (Hotseat) - 20%

AI Opponent - 40%

NetPlay - 10%

PBEM - 30%

I might use solitaire play to forecast specific assault-type scenarios, but this would be restricted to serious competition. Effectively one-off, so I list it as 0%.

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Post #: 47
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 5:53:20 AM   
Shannon V. OKeets

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: norvandave

The survey itself concerns me. I hope the work on the AI will NOT be cut back if there are not enough votes. It seems to me from reading the very good monthly updates that there does not seem to have been much testing on the AI this close to the release date.

Should I be concerned?

I think I ran a similar survey in the summer of 2005. Last week I realized I was working with a pretty poor understanding of how the game was going to be played - at best it was very outdated. As a marketing research professional (12 years) I believe that anocdotal feedback should be supplemented by a closed-ended quantitative survey to fully understand what the market wants.

There is no 'voting' going on here. If that was what I wanted, then that is what I would have asked for. For instance, I have used voting paradigms before in this forum - often in fact - to make design decisions. The purpose here is to have a better answer to the question: "what do the customers want?"



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Post #: 48
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 6:00:41 AM   
SLAAKMAN


Posts: 2725
Joined: 7/24/2002
Status: offline 		Solitaire-0%

Head-to-head-10%

AI Opponent -0%

NetPlay - 80%

PBEM - 10%

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Post #: 49
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 6:20:14 AM   
csharpmao

 

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Joined: 7/29/2005
Status: offline 		Solitaire: 5%
Just to do some tests

Hotseat: 0%
I dont' think my wife will play with me, she founds the screen shots ugly, but she never played the board game.

AI Opponent: 60%
Most of the time, even if I have another campaign started again a real opponent.

NetPlay: 5%
Only if I can find some time on a regular basis each week to play, otherwise it would be frustrating for the other players
It would be my prefered mode if I can find at least an evening by week to play.

PBEM: 30%
Easier to find time to play if I mustn't be in front of my computer at the same time as the other player.


NetPlay/PBEM will depends on the time I'll have to play, and can change during the following years.



< Message edited by csharpmao -- 5/8/2009 7:02:45 AM >

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RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 7:01:55 AM   
jeggett

 

Posts: 11
Joined: 3/30/2005
Status: offline 		Solitaire - 0%

Head-to-head (Hotseat) - 0%

AI Opponent - 100%

NetPlay - 0%

PBEM - 0%

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Post #: 51
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 7:11:13 AM   
praem


Posts: 220
Joined: 12/15/2007
Status: offline 		A.I 60%
Net 40%

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Post #: 52
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 7:16:23 AM   
comte


Posts: 2358
Joined: 2/4/2009
From: Be'eri, Hadarom, Israel
Status: offline 		AI opponent - 100%

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RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 7:57:16 AM   
Maesphil74

 

Posts: 93
Joined: 4/10/2009
Status: offline 		Solitaire 20% (learning and trying stuff)

AI Opponent 80%





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RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 8:05:16 AM   
Froonp


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quote:

ORIGINAL: macgregor

Netplay is all I expect to play. I may explore the new methods of play, but I'm pretty set with a pbem game and the AI will mean nothing to me.

Any chance you translate this into percentages ?

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Post #: 55
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 8:15:33 AM   
Eichenblatt

 

Posts: 14
Joined: 8/18/2008
Status: offline 		AI Opponent - 100%

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Post #: 56
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 8:23:57 AM   
kram

 

Posts: 36
Joined: 2/6/2004
Status: offline 		Solitaire 5% (tests for live boardgaming)
NetPlay 15% (guessing)
AI Opponent 80%

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Post #: 57
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 8:58:24 AM   
herulf

 

Posts: 19
Joined: 12/23/2005
From: Barcelona, Catalonia
Status: offline 		Solitaire 15%
AI 70%
PBEM 15%

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Post #: 58
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 9:15:47 AM   
macgregor


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Froonp


quote:

ORIGINAL: macgregor

Netplay is all I expect to play. I may explore the new methods of play, but I'm pretty set with a pbem game and the AI will mean nothing to me.

Any chance you translate this into percentages ?

Okay -Netplay 100%

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Post #: 59
RE: Simple Survey - 5/8/2009 9:26:32 AM   
Roolender

 

Posts: 6
Joined: 5/8/2009
From: Norway
Status: offline 		PBEM 100%

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