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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/25/2015 7:29:44 PM

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The only time India would be worthwhile to me would be an all out effort to push the Allies off the western map edge.

Anything else really isn't worth the drain and plays to the Allied strengths. When I end up fighting the US Army units, I want to fight while they're at the disadvantage of making an amphibious landing.

What I don't want to do is fight them when they've a secure supply line, room to manuver and plenty of big airbases that their backs to support them.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/25/2015 7:39:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

The only time India would be worthwhile to me would be an all out effort to push the Allies off the western map edge.

Anything else really isn't worth the drain and plays to the Allied strengths. When I end up fighting the US Army units, I want to fight while they're at the disadvantage of making an amphibious landing.

What I don't want to do is fight them when they've a secure supply line, room to manuver and plenty of big airbases that their backs to support them.

Well, there aren't many of those early. Only the Americal and the Marines early, maybe one other division (I can't remember what was free and what I bought now) plus a bunch of ind. regiments. By mid-to-late 42, yes, there could be significant US units there.

I'm not saying one should go to India, but I'm saying one could make arguments with valid data to support them for certain methods of using an Indian invasion to help the Japanese cause.

Well, if we play in the future I'll know what to look out for from you in India!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/25/2015 7:41:15 PM

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27th ID, perhaps.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/25/2015 8:36:33 PM

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India can only be done successfully if the Allied player is outclassed. Otherwise there are plenty of opportunities to take when facing an attack in India. I do agree that there is some sense in taking North India if you want an easier time of it in China, and if you can get in early and smash up Commonwealth units then you have done something. But the great thing about the game is that there is always a counter move. It is hard for a good patient Allied player to lose (as it should be). And I agree 100% with the thought that this is really a naval war and by 1944 China becomes sort of redundant if the Allied player has not totally screwed the pooch and lost his naval assets. Japan could have twice the number of divisions in 1944 but with no sea power to move them around and protect them it does not matter.

As the Allied player, I welcome an invasion of India. Aside from being fun for both sides it opens of another solid land front for the Allies to fight a war of attrition in 1942. I can't in any way see how this is a good thing for Japan.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/25/2015 9:33:03 PM

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May 3 - 4, 1943

INDIA: Para take Tezpur. No reaction on the 4th so we're in! The three AA units here will get off the train and set up. Lots of troops to follow. A P-38 group sweeps Imphal to get info on what's there and gets some kills as well, but does lose six planes. I won't be doing this much, but this is all new territory and I want to see what he really has there, not just the numbers.

CENT PAC: Two bombardments of Mili hit the place hard, apparently knocking out a bunch of guns. That base has some mean 15cm CD guns, and a few got hits, knocking out some radar units on the cruisers and setting a DD on fire. The second round wasn't such a wild ride, so maybe we got some of the guns.

CHINA: Another two days of heavy sweeps go about 1.5:1 for the Allies over Chungking. An A6M5 group tries for the first time and has a bad day.

SIGINT: Subs are in the area.

3/77th Infantry Regiment is loaded on AK Yamahuku Maru at Babeldaob (90,97).

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 3, 43
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Night Naval bombardment of Mili at 136,121 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

285 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 8
CA Pensacola, Shell hits 2
CA Northampton, Shell hits 10
CL Nashville
DD Saufley
DD Radford
DD DeHaven
DD Chevalier
DD Abbot
DD Fletcher

Japanese ground losses:
530 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 35 (3 destroyed, 32 disabled)

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 6
Port hits 10
Port supply hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Salt Lake City
CA Salt Lake City firing at Mili Naval Fortress

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Night Naval bombardment of Mili at 136,121 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

74 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
DD Henley, Shell hits 1
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Mugford
DD Helm, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Bagley
DD Stanly

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 12 (7 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Runway hits 3
Port hits 5

CA Quincy firing at Mili Naval Fortress
Mili Naval Fortress firing at CA Quincy

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 40

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 48
F6F-3 Hellcat x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 37

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 41
F6F-3 Hellcat x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 37

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 28
F6F-3 Hellcat x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Imphal , at 60,40

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 20
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 12
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed

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Ground combat at Tezpur (60,36)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 171 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 5

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tezpur !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Parachute Bn /1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 4, 43
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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 25

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 44
F6F-3 Hellcat x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 38

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 33
F6F-3 Hellcat x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet
3 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet

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Even with 21 fighters lost on the 4th, (plus the P-38s in India) we only lose 4 KIA with another 13 WIA and 1 MIA. I'd bet the Japanese lost 30-40 very good pilots that day.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/25/2015 10:34:46 PM

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He's really feeling the lack of good, quality planes here......and continuing the current course of action seems to be a good way for him to keep losing pilots & for your guys to be gaining experience.

This isn't a good trade for him....he needs to back off & regroup.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/25/2015 11:33:43 PM

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Mid 43, and only 100 Tojo IIc losses. Amazing what PDU off gets you!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 7:10:05 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Mid 43, and only 100 Tojo IIc losses. Amazing what PDU off gets you!

Well, according to the info area arrival date he only got them about a month ago (it says 4/43 but it probably moved into the middle of March somewhere for so many to be around already), so it's not bad from our side. Since he can only use them in four groups it seems, one being a 12 plane group (probably the original Ki-44 test group that starts the game), I would guess he didn't max their R n D as you might in a PDU-on game.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 8:23:26 AM

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May 5 - 6, 1943

SUBS: Puffer finds an AMC out between Sumatra and Diego but can't get a hit. Wonder if he's evacuating there?

CENT PAC: Got some disturbing radio transmission messages to the North of Kusaie so I pulled the Mili fleet back to Tabiteuaea. I'll extend search for a few days to see what it might be, hopefully. I have Coronados now on Makin that have a decent reach, plus some recon Libs to hit distant bases.

SO PAC: Our Buka commando raid is not going to an out. It does get some recon, but the base has about 750 troops in it so won't fall to these guys. That'll have to wait for bigger better troops.

CHINA: Again the Tojos come, for the third day in a row, and again our P-40 pilots show their quality. The CAP is down to 89 planes at the start but the Tojo group that sweeps is reduced as well, and I have to wonder what the fatigue and morale must be now. We get about 3:1 on them, but even better against the Oscar IIIa group that follows, recording around 10-12 kills for no losses!

It's more of the same for the big A6M5c group after that, with the Hellcats doing the bulk of the good work.

I don't seen the A5M6c as a sweeper. It's great as a defensive fighter and on escort, but the reduced speed hurts in an offensive role.

Everything got very quiet in China on the 6th, and Nick sent a message that said he'd have to bring in the reinforcements! I wonder what that means?

The tanks finally push through and force a retreat of a bunch of ragtag units back to Paoshan. I had hoped more would be destroyed, but 11k are forced back throwing the base into a downward spiral of overstacking hell! Since we're now over by 10k the supply use goes through the roof and most units pop to half supply immediately where they were brimming last turn. The base forces stay in full supply for some reason, but I'll need a lot to be flown in until these silly little fragments can be moved out, likely over the next two weeks. Disruption and fatigue immediately went up as well.

INDIA: Now that fields are building in NE India, more transports are being put on the supply mission to Paoshan.

Trincomalee falls! Ceylon is free of the Japanese at last, and will slowly be built into the springboard for later moves into the Empire. I'm aware though that his recon and the G3M3 can hit here, so AA will be brought in and fighters will always be on station at Trin and Colombo.

SIGINT: Trying to play the passing lanes with my subs here, but no joy yet.

3/55th JAAF AF Bn is loaded on a Japanese TK moving to Rabaul.
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Babeldaob (90,97).
10/16th Division is loaded on xAK Kaimei Maru moving to Babeldaob.
31/16th Division is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Babeldaob.
11/16th Division is loaded on a Husimi Cargo class xAK moving to Babeldaob.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 5, 43
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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 26

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 53
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 32

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 48
F6F-3 Hellcat x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-43-IIIa Oscar sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 40

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 42
F6F-3 Hellcat x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x A6M5c Zero sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 35
F6F-3 Hellcat x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Horn Island , at 91,128

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 8
B-17E Fortress x 15

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
ACM Wa 5, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Airbase supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Trincomalee (31,47)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20260 troops, 248 guns, 160 vehicles, Assault Value = 659

Defending force 11958 troops, 70 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 135

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 409

Japanese adjusted defense: 59

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Trincomalee !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1935 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 65 disabled
Non Combat: 140 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 45 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 39 (31 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 106 (106 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
669 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 119 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
29th British Brigade
102nd(Sep) Infantry Regiment
158th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
46th Indian Brigade
111th LRP Brigade
188th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
10th Garrison Unit
27th Ind Engineer Regiment
14th Naval Guard Unit
2nd Naval Construction Battalion
3rd Provisional Base Force
18th JAAF Base Force
96th JAAF AF Bn
6th JAAF Base Force
46th Field Const Co
4th Field Construction Battalion
91st JAAF AF Bn
47th Field Const Co /1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 6, 43
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Ground combat at Trincomalee (31,47)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 5592 troops, 37 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 78

Defending force 19646 troops, 248 guns, 161 vehicles, Assault Value = 568

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 649

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
3695 casualties reported
Squads: 192 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 154 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 28 (22 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
10th Garrison Unit
14th Naval Guard Unit
4th Field Construction Battalion
18th JAAF Base Force
46th Field Const Co
3rd Provisional Base Force
96th JAAF AF Bn
47th Field Const Co /1
27th Ind Engineer Regiment
91st JAAF AF Bn
6th JAAF Base Force
2nd Naval Const Bn /1

Defending units:
102nd(Sep) Infantry Regiment
158th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
46th Indian Brigade
29th British Brigade
111th LRP Brigade
188th Field Artillery Battalion
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3rd Provisional Base Force Wiped Out at Trincomalee by attrition!!!

Japanese Unit(s) Wiped Out at Trincomalee by attrition!!!

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Reinforcements: A very good day! Looking at the arrivals queue we will still be short of the KB numbers for a while assuming he's accelerated as many as he can. He should have the original 6 CVs, plus 2 Junyo, 1 Taiho in autumn 43 (plus one later that is Shinano), then the first 3 Unryu class in autumn 43 I'd guess. Of course the KB now would be supplemented by a lot of CVL too. It'll be late 43 before we're getting close to even total strike capacity I'd say.

He's been operating a large mini-KB with 2-3 CVs in it including the two Junyos. If that continues I can see opportunities to engage, but we'll have to get some good info before I send the USN into the fray in the open ocean.

One thing I notice here is that the Essex comes with decent pilots, a lot in the 60s in experience and 70 i requisite skills. This pales in comparison to the Japanese pilots on later arriving CVs though. They are mostly golden boys over 80 exp and in the high 70s to low 80s in skills! So in spite of the quality of the Hellcat I'd like to get pilots more experience and closer to those numbers, which means a lot of training for the DB/TB pilots and lots of combat for the fighter jocks.

CV Essex arrives at Balboa

She's heading to the IO to hook up with the rest of the CVs.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 8:29:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: paullus99

He's really feeling the lack of good, quality planes here......and continuing the current course of action seems to be a good way for him to keep losing pilots & for your guys to be gaining experience.

This isn't a good trade for him....he needs to back off & regroup.

I think he's realized this as well. It's gotten quiet the past few turns in China.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 11:45:29 AM

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May 7 - 8, 1943

No turn last night or this morning as Nick has been down with some stomach thing. Sad for me, as important things are happening I'd like to see a replay of soon, but more sad for him.

It must be bad if he can't play AE!

SUBS: Blackfish hits a mine at Buin, but should make it. I need to get the AMc in there again.

INDIA: Troops begin to fan out toward Dimapur and Silchar. Most are 50-70% prepped for these bases, with more prepping for Ledo that will move along the yellow road toward that base, around Dimapur. He has a division at least at Jorhat as well now. I don't plan to go there, but after getting troops into Dimapur to engage his forces I'll feint with more troops as if they are crossing the river into that clear hex and try to make it appear that this is the real target. Ledo is the real target. The tanks will move ahead with as many divisions as I can get on those hexes and good AA units (I have two of the big NZ AA guns here, still not filled out, but with 55 3.7inch and 50 more 40mm guns).

CENT PAC: We try a long shot in the Central Pacific that doesn't turn out positively at all. Majuro looked relatively under protected, and I'd been planning a combined assault led by engineers and paras. I decided to bombard and give the paras a shot on their own, but it didn't go really well. Got a decent bombardment with DDs, disabled some infantry squads in bombing runs, but the paras landed and were annihilated by the single naval guard there. I've got another idea now though.

This is risky, but fun! I took a dot base, Ebon, with the paras. I'll send the base force and AA intended for Majuro there (unloading next turn) and set up a seaplane base if the stuff gets a chance to land. Only LSTs involved, so little risk there. The big risk will come the next turn when I go all-in for Mili. Three TFs are loaded up and I have the Marine Amphib HQ that will sit offshore to direct things. I see no CVs on the horizon. The fleet moved from Tabiteuaea to Tarawa and then on the 8th sat at Makin, all lit up by search, but there has been no reaction. I am hoping he'll think I'm either cautious and not ready to send them or bold and sending them to Ebon and surrounding bases like Jaluit. Two heavy cruiser TFs will support and BBs are imbedded to deal with the big CD guns, while all LR CAP will come from Makin, Tarawa and Maiana. One CVE, the Barnes, is in the invasion fleet.

I'm using good APs here, so I hope it's not a huge massacre.

SO PAC: The Buka gamble is squashed by Japanese paras. No great loss, and now I have some info.

CHINA: The Japanese shock into Paoshan!! This is well planned timing as he knows we are overstacked there now, and his troops don't take a big hit in disablements in spite of the 1:4 crossing and failing to lower the level 3 forts. So. The Burma division is fine, with low fatigue and disruption. I've probably got 3-4 days to get sufficient supply here to fill it again. Luckily 1k troops were wiped out leaving the over-stacking less dire. All other fragments are attempting to move into the bush to ease the problem. They're in move mode so hopefully will die more quickly if there is another attack. He's also near the stacking limit, so the tank division will definitely not fit, but that hex side is opened by a tank regiment, so he can rotate the division out an bring in the tanks later. If I can get time to move out small crap Chinese units, then I can fly in portion of an Indian brigade with 43 squads, which at 75 anti-armor would help immensely. One thing at a time though.

SIGINT: A marked increase in mid-ocean signals interception lately. I'm trying to get subs to intercept. The bold ones in particular seem related, so I'm drawing out that line and getting some to patrol just that route.

Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at 102,63.
Radio transmissions detected at 82,112.
Radio transmissions detected at 95,103.
Radio transmissions detected at 50,154.
11/16th Division is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Babeldaob.-7th

9/16th Division is loaded on xAK Kosei Maru #4 moving to Babeldaob.
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at 102,69.-8th

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 7, 43
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Ground combat at Paoshan (65,45)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 14196 troops, 145 guns, 126 vehicles, Assault Value = 464

Defending force 27054 troops, 128 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 702

Japanese adjusted assault: 230

Allied adjusted defense: 943

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
395 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1384 casualties reported
Squads: 41 destroyed, 74 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
22nd Tank Regiment
6th Guards Division
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Army
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
9th RF Gun Battalion

Defending units:
200th Chinese Division
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
39th Indian Division
2nd Reserve Division
55th Prov Chinese Division
96th Chinese Division
93rd Chinese Division
49th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
Lusu War Area
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
103rd RN Base Force
5th New Chinese Corps
10th Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
13th Chinese Base Force
Fourteenth USAAF
104th RAF Base Force
11th Group Army
33rd Base Group
62nd Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Division
32nd Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
5th Group Army
16th Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at Buka (109,128)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1444 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 48

Defending force 203 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Japanese adjusted assault: 21

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
223 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Raiding Regiment
61st Nav Gd /2
18th Garrison Unit /8

Defending units:
2/8th Ind Coy

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Ground combat at Majuro (136,119)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 480 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Defending force 2421 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 38

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
269 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /1

Defending units:
47th Naval Guard Unit
Majuro Base Force

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Allied Unit(s) Wiped Out at Majuro by attrition!!!!!!

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 8, 43
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TF 260 encounters mine field at Buin (109,131)

Allied Ships
SS Blackfish, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Ground combat at Paoshan (65,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 516 troops, 41 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 421

Defending force 25585 troops, 124 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 584

Allied ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
22nd Tank Regiment
6th Guards Division
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Army
9th RF Gun Battalion

Defending units:
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
96th Chinese Division
39th Indian Division
2nd Reserve Division
55th Prov Chinese Division
93rd Chinese Division
13th Chinese Base Force
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
103rd RN Base Force
56th Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
Lusu War Area
104th RAF Base Force
11th Group Army
49th Chinese Division
5th New Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
5th Group Army
80th Chinese Corps
33rd Base Group
Fourteenth USAAF
10th Chinese Corps
16th Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at Ebon (132,122)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 123 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 11

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ebon !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /1

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This sighting caused me some concern in the last few days near Mili, but it's not in sight now even with Coronados at 21 hex range, so we're moving in. Fingers crossed.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 12:02:16 PM

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Ocean going LST and LCI are great for getting into and then leaving a base quickly. I use DEs, AMs, and SCs as escorts for them. Your APA and APs are too valuable to use for minor operations that may involve enemy warships or planes.

I hope you are loving logistics as it is not getting any easier for you. By 1944 you will think running the Japanese economy is easy compared to what you do daily as Allies.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 1:33:21 PM

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Ocean going LST and LCI are great for getting into and then leaving a base quickly. I use DEs, AMs, and SCs as escorts for them. Your APA and APs are too valuable to use for minor operations that may involve enemy warships or planes.

I hope you are loving logistics as it is not getting any easier for you. By 1944 you will think running the Japanese economy is easy compared to what you do daily as Allies.

I know it! I've seen the queue and it's daunting!

I do love the flexibility it allows, and I'm gong to try to keep some semblance of worth even through the massive influx of stuff that's coming, meaning I won't just throw stuff around because i have a lot of it. Occasionally some sacrifices that are calculated will be necessary, but not if I can help it. I haven't and won't use merchants for pickets, and I won't use feint invasions with a bunch of empty ships destined for slaughter. It's just not cricket in my own system of game etiquette. I have no problem with anything my opponents do though with their stuff.

I've already used landing craft extensively and love that the Allied LCT have such good range. I've just gotten a ton of LCI and LST that will become a big part of my local logistics in the Pacific. I have a few ideas around the Arakan as well.

The one limit is speed. I still find a a number of situations to use fast transports. They get stuff in and they get out before anything tragic happens. So far. I wish I had 200 of them.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 4:32:11 PM

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Chinese Corps

I got to thinking after the discussion about China. I remember that several units were very different than the majority. Here is what I mean. I'm not on the computer and I don't think this is just how many replacements they've taken relative to each other. I think the TOE is different. I'll have to get in and check. Just wanted to post to see if this is familiar to Allied players or something that might be in DBB only.

The 14th is stronger across the board but especially in AT guns. Pretty important difference there with 3x as many.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 6:00:43 PM

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I think there are 3 different TOEs besides the US one. Doesn�t make much difference though. The low replacement rates of anything Chinese besides Squads pretty much means all Corps will end up with only Squads anyway.

Respawning Corps also come back without guns unless something changed recently.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 6:04:19 PM

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Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)

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Haven't seen a fight with so many negative modifiers yet!

As for the Chinese, there are some corps which use US Equipped TOE - they are bigger, but somewhat harder to fill. BTW, you have an LTC commanding the 14th Corps. There are but a few Chinese LTCs eligible to lead corps. Normally, they lead A/B/C divisions. LTC Sung C. is probably one of the best Chinese leaders available - the Chinese commanders mostly max out at 66-67 in leader stats.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 8:01:35 PM

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Ocean going LST and LCI are great for getting into and then leaving a base quickly. I use DEs, AMs, and SCs as escorts for them. Your APA and APs are too valuable to use for minor operations that may involve enemy warships or planes.

I hope you are loving logistics as it is not getting any easier for you. By 1944 you will think running the Japanese economy is easy compared to what you do daily as Allies.

I know it! I've seen the queue and it's daunting!

I do love the flexibility it allows, and I'm gong to try to keep some semblance of worth even through the massive influx of stuff that's coming, meaning I won't just throw stuff around because i have a lot of it. Occasionally some sacrifices that are calculated will be necessary, but not if I can help it. I haven't and won't use merchants for pickets, and I won't use feint invasions with a bunch of empty ships destined for slaughter. It's just not cricket in my own system of game etiquette. I have no problem with anything my opponents do though with their stuff.

I've already used landing craft extensively and love that the Allied LCT have such good range. I've just gotten a ton of LCI and LST that will become a big part of my local logistics in the Pacific. I have a few ideas around the Arakan as well.

The one limit is speed. I still find a a number of situations to use fast transports. They get stuff in and they get out before anything tragic happens. So far. I wish I had 200 of them.

The LST is the most under rated asset in the game. Once you get them in numbers you then have the ability to seize and support airbases on even zero port hexes. This is a big game change affair for me. The Japanese never have this luxury.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 8:09:27 PM

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Chinese Corps

I got to thinking after the discussion about China. I remember that several units were very different than the majority. Here is what I mean. I'm not on the computer and I don't think this is just how many replacements they've taken relative to each other. I think the TOE is different. I'll have to get in and check. Just wanted to post to see if this is familiar to Allied players or something that might be in DBB only.

The 14th is stronger across the board but especially in AT guns. Pretty important difference there with 3x as many.

Don't know if it is a design that is fitted into the game but Chang basically doled out the most supplies to units where he felt the commander was politically reliable. Did not have to be a good commander. A lot of Chinese army units consisted of troops that fought for former (or current) warlords-many who had been fighting against him in the previous Civil War. And the generals were these warlords. A lot of these armies did not get any equipment from the central government and had to make do with what they could capture or make own their own. As for American equipment, what little there was went to the forces under quasi American control in India and Burma. Virtually no supply was delivered to regular Chinese troops. Most of the supply flown over the hump was for the 14th air force.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 8:16:32 PM

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Reinforcements: It's May 43!!! This means a few new airframes including the slightly worse version of the already abysmal Wildcat, the FM-1. How did they take two 50cal MG off the pane and the stats for speed, climb and maneuver stay the same?!?

I worry as all CVE are doomed to using the kittens for the duration. Maybe I can use some replenishment groups on them with Hellcats? I seem to suffer with those a lot, and I remember questions about whether they have some kind of combat penalty? Anyone know?

I�ve been following the forum silently for the past 3+ years, since starting my first GC against the AI, picking up a lot of critical game tips and historical notes. And now, I have my own historical note to add � the USN used F6F squadrons on some CVEs throughout the war, primarily on the Sangamon and Commencement Bay ships, but occasionally on the other classes as well. This practice started with the Gilbert Islands campaign, when jeep carriers operated F6Fs in support of the invasion (I first saw this in Dean�s America�s Hundred Thousand, and cross-referenced it with Location of U.S. Naval Aircraft for the corresponding weeks -- history.navy.mil/research/histories/naval-aviation-history/location-of-us-naval-aircraft-world-war-ii/1943/16-nov-1943.html, for example). If you examine some of the Location weekly reports throughout the war, you�ll find that the Sangamon CVEs seemed to have F6F squadrons aboard most of the time, and they�re not being used as replacements.

I know that some Internet sources assert that the Bogue and Casablanca ships couldn�t handle F6Fs; however, the Location weekly reports will sometime show regular VF squadrons equipped with Hellcats aboard them. And if you are trying to stay close to historical capabilities, don�t forget to add Marine F4U squadrons to your Commencement Bay CVEs in early 1945 � they eventually supported the Okinawa and Balikpapan operations.

As far as the discrepancy between the F4F-4 and FM-1 (fewer guns, yet same performance), Dean states that the FM-1 was actually 75-100 pounds heavier than the F4F-4. I don�t know if GM re-engineered the FM-1 for automotive-style mass production (as they did with the FM-2 and the TBM), but some weight crept into the new model.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 8:29:51 PM

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That's great info and a super first post - welcome!

The real problem Eric is going to have is that his game if PDU=OFF, so if the F6F is not in the upgrade path for those squadrons, he's out of luck.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 9:39:13 PM

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Reinforcements: It's May 43!!! This means a few new airframes including the slightly worse version of the already abysmal Wildcat, the FM-1. How did they take two 50cal MG off the pane and the stats for speed, climb and maneuver stay the same?!?

I worry as all CVE are doomed to using the kittens for the duration. Maybe I can use some replenishment groups on them with Hellcats? I seem to suffer with those a lot, and I remember questions about whether they have some kind of combat penalty? Anyone know?

I�ve been following the forum silently for the past 3+ years, since starting my first GC against the AI, picking up a lot of critical game tips and historical notes. And now, I have my own historical note to add � the USN used F6F squadrons on some CVEs throughout the war, primarily on the Sangamon and Commencement Bay ships, but occasionally on the other classes as well. This practice started with the Gilbert Islands campaign, when jeep carriers operated F6Fs in support of the invasion (I first saw this in Dean�s America�s Hundred Thousand, and cross-referenced it with Location of U.S. Naval Aircraft for the corresponding weeks -- history.navy.mil/research/histories/naval-aviation-history/location-of-us-naval-aircraft-world-war-ii/1943/16-nov-1943.html, for example). If you examine some of the Location weekly reports throughout the war, you�ll find that the Sangamon CVEs seemed to have F6F squadrons aboard most of the time, and they�re not being used as replacements.

I know that some Internet sources assert that the Bogue and Casablanca ships couldn�t handle F6Fs; however, the Location weekly reports will sometime show regular VF squadrons equipped with Hellcats aboard them. And if you are trying to stay close to historical capabilities, don�t forget to add Marine F4U squadrons to your Commencement Bay CVEs in early 1945 � they eventually supported the Okinawa and Balikpapan operations.

As far as the discrepancy between the F4F-4 and FM-1 (fewer guns, yet same performance), Dean states that the FM-1 was actually 75-100 pounds heavier than the F4F-4. I don�t know if GM re-engineered the FM-1 for automotive-style mass production (as they did with the FM-2 and the TBM), but some weight crept into the new model.

Thanks. That's great info. I love the detail and I just read 'Freedom's Forge,' all about the mass-production of military goods, much of it centered around the car industry. I learned a lot about Gm and Ford and Crysler and what they started making in the war. This wasn't in there though, so it's god to have my curiosity satisfied on the FM-1.

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That's great info and a super first post - welcome!

The real problem Eric is going to have is that his game if PDU=OFF, so if the F6F is not in the upgrade path for those squadrons, he's out of luck.

witpqs is right here. I'm thinking of the upgrade paths.

Just looked and some of the VRF groups get them while some don't.

Upgrade to Hellcats;

(28 planes per)

VRF-1F
VRF-2F
VRF-3F

Do not upgrade to Hellcats;

VRF-5F
VRF-6F

Another interesting thing relevant to your post is that the Sangamon class groups that I have so far do get the Hellcat!!! So that is great.

(21 planes per)

VF-60
VF-35
VF-37

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Hey, you just have to keep playing until you get the Bearcat!

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I think there are 3 different TOEs besides the US one. Doesn�t make much difference though. The low replacement rates of anything Chinese besides Squads pretty much means all Corps will end up with only Squads anyway.

Respawning Corps also come back without guns unless something changed recently.

These pics are from May 9, 1943!

I've been sequestering a few of the good ones for the defense of Chungking. The 14th has decent experience too. The 97th is late arrival so hasn't seen combat yet. Trying to get it's experience up but that may happen soon since Nick just invested Chungking.

Many units have run low on guns, for sure, and a lot of them are now zombies heading west. Those don't gt any guns, but have the 43 squads. The good ones are all around Chungking and on the gray road to the East.

I'll be going through and culling shattered units for good commanders it heh next few turns and getting the into the units around Chungking. Most have good ones already (for China) but there are few that have it all.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 9:54:36 PM

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Hey, you just have to keep playing until you get the Bearcat!

The other CVE groups don't get the Bearcat either!!

The FM-2 is as good as it gets. I guess it's all about numbers with those!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 9:56:43 PM

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Chinese Corps

I got to thinking after the discussion about China. I remember that several units were very different than the majority. Here is what I mean. I'm not on the computer and I don't think this is just how many replacements they've taken relative to each other. I think the TOE is different. I'll have to get in and check. Just wanted to post to see if this is familiar to Allied players or something that might be in DBB only.

The 14th is stronger across the board but especially in AT guns. Pretty important difference there with 3x as many.

Don't know if it is a design that is fitted into the game but Chang basically doled out the most supplies to units where he felt the commander was politically reliable. Did not have to be a good commander. A lot of Chinese army units consisted of troops that fought for former (or current) warlords-many who had been fighting against him in the previous Civil War. And the generals were these warlords. A lot of these armies did not get any equipment from the central government and had to make do with what they could capture or make own their own. As for American equipment, what little there was went to the forces under quasi American control in India and Burma. Virtually no supply was delivered to regular Chinese troops. Most of the supply flown over the hump was for the 14th air force.

That makes sense. Again an amazing level of detail!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 9:59:48 PM

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Combat modifiers
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Haven't seen a fight with so many negative modifiers yet!

As for the Chinese, there are some corps which use US Equipped TOE - they are bigger, but somewhat harder to fill. BTW, you have an LTC commanding the 14th Corps. There are but a few Chinese LTCs eligible to lead corps. Normally, they lead A/B/C divisions. LTC Sung C. is probably one of the best Chinese leaders available - the Chinese commanders mostly max out at 66-67 in leader stats.

Most of those units are tiny fragments pushed from Kunming to Paoshan. Lots of bad stuff there, yes.

I worry about LTC Sing C's aggression. Everything else is great. For the Chinese, yes, I'll take it.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 10:01:35 PM

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The night phase began with subs from both sides missing, but showing what was to come.

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The BBS tok the heat from the Mili fort and dished some back, knocking out a good amount of the remaining big guns before the troops hit the beach.

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The other CVE groups don't get the Bearcat either!!

I like the Bearcat in my Downfall game. Wish I had more of them flying around. They look neat.

Graphically that is.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 1/26/2015 10:07:48 PM

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This is not what I wanted to see five hexes from the invasion hex!

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