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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/6/2014 6:29:57 PM   
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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/7/2014 5:26:06 PM   
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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/8/2014 12:32:08 PM   
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i really like your mod but there are still a few problems, i've encountered:

1. I wanted to start a game as Lemeresh. They have the special technology "super laser". This laser is already researched when i start the game and the tech is at the very far right part of the research screen. And it seems to have no requirement or something.

2. New tech from Ancient Galaxy seems not to be in the mod.

Standard Ancient Galaxy Theme: i.imgur.com/WmiM6rh.jpg
Your Mod Theme: i.imgur.com/u0eUTVR.jpg

Is there a chance to get your mod to work with all the new things from ancient galaxy?


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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/8/2014 2:32:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kulin

Hi,

i really like your mod but there are still a few problems, i've encountered:

1. I wanted to start a game as Lemeresh. They have the special technology "super laser". This laser is already researched when i start the game and the tech is at the very far right part of the research screen. And it seems to have no requirement or something.

2. New tech from Ancient Galaxy seems not to be in the mod.

Standard Ancient Galaxy Theme: i.imgur.com/WmiM6rh.jpg
Your Mod Theme: i.imgur.com/u0eUTVR.jpg

Is there a chance to get your mod to work with all the new things from ancient galaxy?

My in-house version of the mod has the Lemeresh modded to use the Wekkarus wave gun instead, because it just seems so crazy for them to start with the death ray.

As for the ancient galaxy techs, it shouldn't be too difficult to add them, but it'd be extremely tedious. Merging research.txts from two different mods is just a pain in the ass, as I learnt from adding the colonisation unlock mod to this.
Basically, getting all of the techs from ancient galaxy will take you awhile, but fixing up the problems with the death ray lasers of death shouldn't take you too long at all. Find the locations of super beam weapons and planetary destruction/advanced superweapons in the research.txts of both the Ancient Galaxy and Extended themes, then you should copy the stuff over from Ancient Galaxy's research.txt that relates to these two things into Extended's one (overwriting the lines for those two techs in extended).

What you have to do after is endure the tedium of making sure that the techs you copied over from ancient galaxy don't conflict with the positions of any other techs on the tech-tree, and ensuring that their requirements are all correct.

I checked to see if you'd have to fix up the components unlocked by each tech, but you shouldn't. planetary destruction/adv superweapons both unlock "25" and super beam weapons unlocks "23" in both themes, so there should be no harm on that front with regards to just copy-pasting these over from The Ancient Galaxy.

I'd post my own version with the above but I haven't actually gotten around to making it yet. xD

I'd like to add this though:
11/10 would recommend giving the modding manual a read. It's really really helpful. Learning the basics of this stuff can be really beneficial for setting up your own games.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/8/2014 5:22:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kulin

Hi,

i really like your mod but there are still a few problems, i've encountered:

1. I wanted to start a game as Lemeresh. They have the special technology "super laser". This laser is already researched when i start the game and the tech is at the very far right part of the research screen. And it seems to have no requirement or something.

2. New tech from Ancient Galaxy seems not to be in the mod.

Standard Ancient Galaxy Theme: i.imgur.com/WmiM6rh.jpg
Your Mod Theme: i.imgur.com/u0eUTVR.jpg



Neither are problems, working as intended.

The Lemeresh aren't meant to be a player race, I think it says that in the Galactopedia?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/9/2014 8:42:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		LOL i was just watching stargate universe again, i noticed that a race they encounter is similar to one of the races in your mod. was this race inspired by the idea in SGU?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/9/2014 12:10:33 PM   
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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/9/2014 2:06:42 PM   
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LOL i was just watching stargate universe again, i noticed that a race they encounter is similar to one of the races in your mod. was this race inspired by the idea in SGU?


I haven't watched Stargate at all, I have only seen the Kurt Russell movie.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/9/2014 5:02:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		nice, love the mod just found it very cool that different ideas from different SCIFI shows are in the mod i have started a game with the race now.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/9/2014 6:21:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pycco

LOL i was just watching stargate universe again, i noticed that a race they encounter is similar to one of the races in your mod. was this race inspired by the idea in SGU?


I haven't watched Stargate at all, I have only seen the Kurt Russell movie.

You should, fantastic show! :D

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/9/2014 6:52:17 PM   
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You should, fantastic show! :D


I probably should. I wouldn't feel right starting anywhere but the beginning and TV shows back then didn't have the quality of these days and way too much filler. So I'll have to be really out of shows to watch ;)


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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/10/2014 2:39:39 PM   
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I wouldn't feel right starting anywhere but the beginning and TV shows back then didn't have the quality of these days and way too much filler. So I'll have to be really out of shows to watch ;)



I wouldn't say that SG1 (the first show) isn't[EDIT] particularly dated. If you can get past it being a little bit 'camp' (a hangover from the film) it's a great watch, as are all the series.

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ORIGINAL: pycco

LOL i was just watching stargate universe again, i noticed that a race they encounter is similar to one of the races in your mod. was this race inspired by the idea in SGU?


You're referring to Haree's modded race image for the Ackdarians, which is that of the unnamed hostile alien raced encountered in SGU.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/10/2014 4:52:10 PM   
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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/10/2014 6:19:06 PM   
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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/10/2014 6:21:40 PM   
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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/10/2014 6:36:46 PM   
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The Lemeresh aren't meant to be a player race, I think it says that in the Galactopedia?


I don't believe it does - But good to know.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/10/2014 11:12:05 PM   
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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/11/2014 2:29:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Haree78

The Lemeresh aren't meant to be a player race, I think it says that in the Galactopedia?


I don't believe it does - But good to know.


Opens up Galactopedia, selects Lemeresh.
"They are not meant to be played because they will have a big advantage for the player"

I actually set them to unplayable at one point but there was a bug where you couldn't add them as a random enemy AI empire, that has been fixed I believe so I might put it back in.

@lurchi Thanks :)

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/11/2014 5:52:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		yes that is one of the races i was referring to there are several more from the SG universe that the likes of are in the mod.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/12/2014 2:13:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was thinking, after seeing your Authoritarian Eugenics government it occurred to me that it was possible to mod Corporate Nationalism.

It never really made much sense and only existed as a way to hamstring yourself or the AI. It literally had no saving grace whatsoever. It's represented as a dystopian government which is fine except maybe it should be at least marginally useful?

My suggestion: Rename to Megacorporation
Pros:
Nationalized private sector (tax whatever you want)
+20% growth
+20% income
+15% research
+30% troop recruitment
-40% maintenance
-40% troop maintenance
-75% war weariness

Cons:
+15% corruption
overall decay*

*Regarding overall decay I think it's within about a decade you get:
Reduces growth by 65%
Reduces research by 65%
Reduces planetary development (culture) by up to 65% (not below the 50% from population though). This cripples your income completely.


Even with all these improvements it's still by far the worst government with the benefit of at least being the most suited for war excepting Way of Darkness, provided you can manage to stay ahead in tech that is. If you do take it for short term benefit, it will even punish you for changing back.

It ought to at least offer the brief benefit mentioned in the description.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/12/2014 9:17:14 AM   
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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/12/2014 9:37:00 AM   
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PS Great mod, by the way

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/12/2014 4:59:52 PM   
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I like the idea of changing the Corporate Nationalism government somehow however I wont be doing that within this mod, I still want to keep the vanilla game as it is so that players can 'upgrade' to Extended and not feel they are playing a different game.

@xatharas
I'll have to check, when I created them I thought I checked what planet types resources spawned at, it's possible I messed up or more likely it was a mess up in the translation from Shadows to Universe where some changes in that area were made.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/12/2014 10:07:58 PM   
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can i use your mod without expecting some issues in the beta build or do you think i should wait?

thx in advance :).

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/12/2014 11:54:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tehlongone

I was thinking, after seeing [Haree78's] Authoritarian Eugenics government it occurred to me that it was possible to mod Corporate Nationalism.

It never really made much sense and only existed as a way to hamstring yourself or the AI. It literally had no saving grace whatsoever. It's represented as a dystopian government which is fine except maybe it should be at least marginally useful?

My suggestion: Rename to Megacorporation


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ORIGINAL: Haree78

@Tehlongone
I like the idea of changing the Corporate Nationalism government somehow however I wont be doing that within this mod, I still want to keep the vanilla game as it is so that players can 'upgrade' to Extended and not feel they are playing a different game.


Corporate Nationalism = Fascism

I'm not sure why the devs didn't just call it that. Mabye there's some stigma attached to that word and people would feel weird using the government? I don't know. Either way it's a terrible government type. In my own mod I de-specialsed it making it available to everyone and now I've got an interesting situation in-game where two empires locked in war with each other have both adopted it! Art reflecting life methinks?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/13/2014 2:02:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Except it's not fascism. The Nazis actually encouraged free enterprise and for the most part let the market do its thing, as long as it didn't do anything that was bad for national or cultural health. They just, uh, "requisitioned" stuff from corporations when they needed it.


State capitalism doesn't really equate to whatever corporate nationalism is trying to be.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/13/2014 3:14:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		So as far as a new race I'm of the robotic variety (I started a thread asking and found this as a result, still attempting to make my own but balance is a problem :( ) but if I may suggest a race? I've attempted to skim through all 18 pages of this thread to find if anyone has suggested this yet but maybe I missed it:

A race of semi-Artificial Intelligent mechanoids that are a product of a manufacturing error within their master core processes. Basically a hive-mind of robots based off of massive server blocks that act as 'governors' to the general population.

So thats the flavor, but gameplay wise how to we make them different? my inexperience with the game shows here as I'm not super familiar with all of the different races from this mod and vanilla but what I propose seems stupid fun to me:

- Heavy penalty to research. These machines have little free thinking and even less 'creative' thought. they follow procedures and standard protocols the majority of the time

- Increase in manufacturing speed. Robots do not sleep, they are brutal and efficient.

- Minor colonization bonus due to their non-organic nature



I'd personally like to add penalties and bonuses for days, tweaking the race to be entirely unique but I don't see more than 3 on most races so I decided to keep it small. Is this too close to another race or is it just another generic faction?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/13/2014 3:27:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		That sounds something like the Napoar, check them out, they may be what you are after.
You can't really do a penalty on research other than lowering racial intelligence.

@Seraph86 The mod should have no issues with the latest beta patch.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/13/2014 11:23:37 AM   
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That sounds something like the Napoar, check them out, they may be what you are after.
You can't really do a penalty on research other than lowering racial intelligence.

If you give them expensive racial techs for all important components, and disallow the common ones, wouldn't that be possible, even though it would be quite a lot of work? Not to mention it would clutter the tech trees.

Or disallow all but one government, and have the single racial allowed one give a huge negative research modifier?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/13/2014 1:28:06 PM   
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If you give them expensive racial techs for all important components, and disallow the common ones, wouldn't that be possible, even though it would be quite a lot of work? Not to mention it would clutter the tech trees.

Or disallow all but one government, and have the single racial allowed one give a huge negative research modifier?


The first solution would make the tech tree awful. The 2nd solution is doable, and might make sense as the robots were programmed to do it one way ;)

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