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Luskan -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 1:07:48 PM)
Reflections on my three operations now I've calmed down a bit, and Raver is doing the turn. Operation Aspiration was a success for the most part - the parts that didn't work (and most of you know which bloody obvious beaches I didn't storm! Vigan, Noumea, Ambiona, Balikpapan, Samarinda, Tarawa etc.) didn't cost me anything but time. Raver can't stop me taking them in the next week of play. My main objectives were to get considerable airpower to Wake (done) and to have already transferred HQs and moved planes to Tainan and Palau this turn so that when next turn, they fly to bases like Kendari, Legaspi, Jolo, Kuching, Brunei (all the bases I've got surface forces covering) I'll be able to exact revenge on any of Raver's ships still in the SRA. Of course, he's already sunk more than enough to be thrilled with and will escape with his triumphant surface forces to consolidate somewhere and hit back in an organised fashion. Operation Expectation Was mediocre. Yes, I slammed the pacific fleet. Yes I sank 3 BBs, but it cost me 30 planes lost to AA fire to do it. I would have preferred to not sink any, and lost 15 planes. Even so, KB remains a force to be worried about, and hopefully Raver's been aggressive with his CVs and I've still got a chance to sink them near Wake. Next turn will tell (Mavises everywhere out of Wake this turn). Operation Deviation - almost total failure. My best surface combat admirals let me down - I intercepted all six of my targets - however I only nailed 1 of them, let three of them escape without damage, and the two lone CL targets Boise and Tromp king hit me. The tally is 4 destroyers already sunk, 4 more sinking (won't float long enough for Raver's air crews to finish them), 3 destroyers crippled and about to be sunk by dutch pilots, and 2 destroyers with a chance of surviving. All up 11 destroyers - gone on turn 1. Not to mention two shattered CLs that won't make it back alive. Operation Deviation was supposed to make Raver so mad at loosing all his surface forces, that he would send in PoW and Repulse - hopefully to Kuching or Khota Bharu and that would be the end of that (I don't mind revealing this part of the plan because it ain't gonna happen now!!!!!!!). Christ - he may still show up and I'd loose 4 BBs to his 1 damaged. grrrrr [:@] Raver is still luckier than he has any right to be.

VSWG -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 1:17:25 PM)
You've got Boised.... Nice level of detail here for a combined AAR. Very interesting.

Raverdave -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 1:57:24 PM)
Well I laughed so damn hard that my sides hurt[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] Nice to see the Dutch putting up a strong fight. I have lttle else to add to what bananana boy has already said. Geeze what a mess.[:D][:D]

witpqs -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 2:33:36 PM)
Recommend next time your captains attend in-house training. That Swiss Naval War College was a waste of money.

Luskan -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 2:49:09 PM)
tell me about it!

Luskan -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 3:01:05 PM)
The humiliation continues! First up, Raver uses the three english dds at Hong Kong to get in a quick punch at Tainan - hitting one of my APD/AP transport groups that are just loading up. Fortunately none of them was sunk, but he damaged 5 to the point that I've cancelled that particular mission within Aspiration. Disappointed troops are unloaded back to Tainan! Then they strayed under the coastal defences at Tainan and got blown to smithereens, and quickly polished off by my bombers. Sinking three allied DDs still didn't make me feel about the debacle in the Java sea, where Jintsu and Kasanagi get smothered with dutch bombs - Kasanagi goes down with a gurgle and Jinstu is done for. 2 days in, I've lost 5 dds, and 2 CLs and another 5 dds are going to sink in the next 3 turns without any help from Raver. Raver's luck continues as my Nells find PoW and Repulse and fail to launch any really good hits. Repulse is torpedoed twice, but on the whole it was a lame air raid. One of my nearby subs then launched at Repulse and missed (and got hammered for the trouble). PoW and Repulse have no doubt escaped my net (again). Repulse is damaged so Raver will probably hold her at Karachi and send her straight home when the british withdrawal order comes. In other action, my troops captured many allied bases - however we failed to take Brunei, Kuching, Rabaul or Menado on our first take. More troops have unloaded to I expect this to work better now - Kendari is up and running with 250+ aircraft, but Raver was too smart to do the whole allied ship exodus from Manila in 1 turn. He's waiting for me to spread my forces out further and then he'll make a run for it after my naval bombers are tired. Raver's CVs were not spotted in the Wake Island vicinity. My lightening raids did cuase allied troops to scuttle a few ships though ;) AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 56 troops unloading over beach at Miri, 31,57 Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 83 troops unloading over beach at Jolo, 38,59 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Menado, 39,67, firing at TF 84 TF 84 troops unloading over beach at Menado, 39,67 4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85 TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45 21 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 406 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49 Japanese ground losses: 327 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Laoag, 45,49 Japanese ground losses: 281 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rabaul, 61,88, firing at TF 89 TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 61,88 14 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 168 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 92 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 44,55 Japanese ground losses: 450 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Zamboanga, 39,59 Japanese ground losses: 66 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 102 troops unloading over beach at Kendari, 33,71 Japanese ground losses: 555 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 103 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49 Japanese ground losses: 452 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Brunei, 32,57, firing at TF 104 TF 104 troops unloading over beach at Brunei, 32,57 19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AP Yasukuni Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire MSW Choun Maru #7, Shell hits 1, on fire AP Koyo Maru Japanese ground losses: 220 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 106 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49 Japanese ground losses: 635 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Kuching, 28,56, firing at TF 112 TF 112 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 28,56 19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships MSW W.13, Shell hits 1 Japanese ground losses: 204 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 116 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49 Japanese ground losses: 961 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 135 troops unloading over beach at Tarakan, 33,61 Japanese ground losses: 571 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 136 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 42,59 Japanese ground losses: 512 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Davao, 41,61, firing at TF 153 TF 153 troops unloading over beach at Davao, 41,61 Japanese ground losses: 158 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 154 troops unloading over beach at Kendari, 33,71 Japanese ground losses: 204 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Tainan at 48,44 Japanese Ships APD APD-32, Shell hits 2 APD APD-33, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage APD APD-34, Shell hits 3 APD APD-37, Shell hits 4, on fire APD APD-38, Shell hits 4, on fire APD APD-39 MSW W.20 AP Bokuyo Maru AP Buyo Maru AP Chojun Maru Allied Ships DD Scout DD Thanet DD Thracian, Shell hits 5, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Hudson I: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships DD Hibiki DD Akatsuki DD Oshio DD Asashio BB Haruna BB Kongo Allied ground losses: 250 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Airbase hits 9 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 38 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Davao, at 41,61 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DD Yuzuki DD Kikuzuki DD Uzuki DD Oboro CA Kako CA Furutaka, Shell hits 2 CA Kinugasa CA Aoba Allied Ships AK Montanes, Shell hits 1, heavy damage AK Mauban, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AVD William B. Preston, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 174 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Vehicles lost 3 Airbase hits 1 Port hits 2 Port fuel hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Tainan, at 48,44 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 95 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships DD Thanet, Shell hits 26, on fire, heavy damage DD Scout, Shell hits 21, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 130 troops unloading over beach at Bacolod, 42,57 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85 TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45 22 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 178 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49 Japanese ground losses: 324 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Laoag, 45,49 Japanese ground losses: 222 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Rabaul, 61,88, firing at TF 89 TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 61,88 2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 146 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 92 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 44,55 Japanese ground losses: 276 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Zamboanga, 39,59 Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 102 troops unloading over beach at Kendari, 33,71 Japanese ground losses: 39 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 103 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49 Japanese ground losses: 335 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Brunei, 32,57, firing at TF 104 TF 104 troops unloading over beach at Brunei, 32,57 20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AP Yasukuni Maru Japanese ground losses: 292 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 106 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49 Japanese ground losses: 235 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Kuching, 28,56, firing at TF 112 TF 112 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 28,56 26 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships MSW W.13, Shell hits 3 Japanese ground losses: 319 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 116 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49 Japanese ground losses: 389 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 135 troops unloading over beach at Tarakan, 33,61 Japanese ground losses: 29 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 136 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 42,59 Japanese ground losses: 345 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kuantan , at 24,47 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 49 Ki-21 Sally x 55 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 6 Runway hits 35 Aircraft Attacking: 27 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Hong Kong Fortress, at 43,42 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 27 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45 Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships BB Haruna Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45 Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 9 Hudson I x 11 Allied aircraft losses Blenheim I: 1 damaged Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Haruna Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet 1 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 27 Blenheim IV x 4 Allied aircraft losses Blenheim IV: 2 damaged Japanese Ships BB Kongo Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56 Allied aircraft Martin 139 x 3 Allied aircraft losses Martin 139: 2 damaged Japanese Ships CA Takao Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 33,61 Allied aircraft Martin 139 x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CA Suzuya Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56 Allied aircraft Blenheim IV x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships DD Kamo Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 32,57 Allied aircraft Brewster 339D x 3 Martin 139 x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships TK San Pedro Maru Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45 Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Ayatosan Maru Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43 Allied aircraft Hudson I x 1 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Kenyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 1 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 33,61 Allied aircraft Brewster 339D x 3 Martin 139 x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Kyosei Maru Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 33,71 Allied aircraft Hudson I x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Otake Maru, Bomb hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 23,59 Allied aircraft Martin 139 x 20 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CL Jintsu, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 23,59 Allied aircraft Martin 139 x 6 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CL Jintsu, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 22,59 Allied aircraft Brewster 339D x 9 Martin 139 x 8 No Allied losses Japanese Ships DD Kasasagi, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 1 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 22,45 Japanese aircraft G3M Nell x 19 Japanese aircraft losses G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 17 damaged Allied Ships BC Repulse, Torpedo hits 2, on fire BB Prince of Wales Aircraft Attacking: 2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 47,45 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 50 G4M1 Betty x 15 Ki-48 Lily x 20 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Thanet, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 44 Ki-48 Lily x 51 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-48 Lily: 8 damaged Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 13 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 16 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 14 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45 Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 9 Allied aircraft losses Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Haruna Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45 Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 6 Hudson I x 6 Allied aircraft losses Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships BB Haruna DD Akatsuki BB Kongo Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Menado at 39,67 Allied aircraft Brewster 339D x 3 Hudson I x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Kaishi Maru Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 26 Blenheim IV x 7 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Enju Maru PC Ch 9 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56 Allied aircraft Brewster 339D x 3 Martin 139 x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships DD Hayabusa Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56 Allied aircraft Martin 139 x 2 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Ginyo Maru Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 33,71 Allied aircraft Hudson I x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Nichiran Maru Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 23,59 Allied aircraft Brewster 339D x 9 Martin 139 x 22 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CL Jintsu, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 23,59 Allied aircraft Martin 139 x 5 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CL Jintsu, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 23,59 Allied aircraft T.IVa x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CL Jintsu, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 4 x T.IVa bombing at 5000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 25,55 Allied aircraft Blenheim IV x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships DD Kari Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 45,46 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 46 G4M1 Betty x 9 Ki-48 Lily x 27 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Thracian, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet 1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 22,45 Japanese Ships SS I-166, hits 9 Allied Ships BC Repulse, on fire DD Jupiter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Hudson I: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships DD Hibiki DD Akatsuki DD Oshio DD Asashio BB Haruna BB Kongo Allied ground losses: 87 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 9 Port hits 1 Port fuel hits 1 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Roxas Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 752 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 24 - adjusted assault: 25 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 25 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Roxas base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at San Jose Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 755 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 23 - adjusted assault: 7 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE San Jose base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Shortlands Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 667 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 24 - adjusted assault: 14 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Shortlands base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Puerto Princesa Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 1248 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 43 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 45 - adjusted assault: 24 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 24 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Puerto Princesa base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Menado Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 2145 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 66 Defending force 2013 troops, 18 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 42 Japanese max assault: 68 - adjusted assault: 14 Allied max defense: 43 - adjusted defense: 9 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Japanese ground losses: 51 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 49 casualties reported Guns lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Jolo Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 2034 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 62 Defending force 653 troops, 7 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Japanese max assault: 128 - adjusted assault: 29 Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 3 Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Jolo base !!! Japanese ground losses: 21 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 978 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Hong Kong Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 59409 troops, 529 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 968 Defending force 13231 troops, 121 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 233 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 5 Japanese max assault: 1268 - adjusted assault: 866 Allied max defense: 235 - adjusted defense: 165 Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 5) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Japanese ground losses: 688 casualties reported Guns lost 13 Vehicles lost 2 Allied ground losses: 345 casualties reported Guns lost 23 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Sandakan Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 1261 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 41 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 42 - adjusted assault: 21 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Sandakan base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kendari Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 15995 troops, 33 guns, 253 vehicles, Assault Value = 481 Defending force 1081 troops, 9 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 12 Japanese max assault: 314 - adjusted assault: 219 Allied max defense: 12 - adjusted defense: 5 Japanese assault odds: 43 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Kendari base !!! Allied ground losses: 215 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Lamon Bay Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 1282 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 41 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 42 - adjusted assault: 21 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Lamon Bay base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kuching Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 2637 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 89 Defending force 1880 troops, 9 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 39 Japanese max assault: 90 - adjusted assault: 23 Allied max defense: 38 - adjusted defense: 73 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese ground losses: 158 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 91 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Zamboanga Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 2998 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 89 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 93 - adjusted assault: 48 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 48 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Zamboanga base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Davao Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 9286 troops, 83 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 208 Defending force 3580 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 90 Japanese max assault: 218 - adjusted assault: 180 Allied max defense: 79 - adjusted defense: 15 Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Davao base !!! Japanese ground losses: 93 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 54 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Admiralty Islands Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 739 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 23 - adjusted assault: 7 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Admiralty Islands base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Guam Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 724 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 24 - adjusted assault: 13 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wewak Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 670 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 23 - adjusted assault: 13 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Wewak base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Taytay Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 765 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 24 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 25 - adjusted assault: 26 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 26 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Taytay base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Miri Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 631 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 19 - adjusted assault: 11 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Miri base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Brunei Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 726 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 150 Defending force 814 troops, 7 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Japanese max assault: 23 - adjusted assault: 22 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 7 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Allied ground losses: 39 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Ormoc Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 742 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 22 - adjusted assault: 13 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Ormoc base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Lunga Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 686 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 22 - adjusted assault: 23 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 23 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Lunga base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Jesselton Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 715 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 23 - adjusted assault: 13 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Jesselton base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Khota Bharu Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 4944 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 135 Defending force 21061 troops, 256 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 445 Japanese ground losses: 6 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 32 casualties reported Guns lost 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Menado Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1228 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38 Defending force 2084 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 62 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Rabaul Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 2272 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 79 Defending force 9457 troops, 102 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 186 Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Cagayan Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 16774 troops, 176 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 428 Defending force 560 troops, 0 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Japanese max assault: 186 - adjusted assault: 23 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 5 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Cagayan base !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses B-17C Fortress: 2 destroyed Sunk ship totals as of day two - sunk Jap DDs are just below this screenie. [image]local://upfiles/7090/4EAD89EF7D1C4E18B57E507A49F23086.jpg[/image]

Andy Mac -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 3:01:15 PM)
It is nice that Luskan didnt run the 1st turn a few times before sending it over to make sure it was perfect !!!! Its always better to have a random start where things go wrong.

Luskan -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 3:03:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andy Mac It is nice that Luskan didnt run the 1st turn a few times before sending it over to make sure it was perfect !!!! Its always better to have a random start where things go wrong. That would be going a bit far, agreed. I had a couple of heavier surface TFs "miss" their intercepts - my memory of allied ship placement isn't that good. Next time it'll be perfect though - because I learnt a lot this time ;)

buzzz123 -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 3:03:53 PM)
is this a record? 400+ hits and 30+ replies for an AAR that has played ONE turn?? Obviously everyone just loves the friendly Aussie banter...

Mark VII -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 5:00:12 PM)
My money is on the Aussie who lives just south of Melbourne! I think Banana boy's plan was alittle ambitious. It seems he was counting on the Allied surface units to just roll over and sink when the lookout shouts "many strange ships sighted port side...about 25,000 yards at 285 degrees closing fast!!!!!". Captain announces..."all hands abandon ship, the Japs got the drop on us...no sense in fighting on!"[:D][:D][:D] Hey Dave, hows life in the weekend Navy? Get to drive any fast boats or fire any large weapons?[sm=00000106.gif] Say hello to the Wife unit and the kids, Kim and I wish you all well!

pauk -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 7:14:14 PM)
Wait guys, Banana boy and Raver didn't even started yet... few more turns and you will all falling down with from the chair[:D] Luskan, 30 planes lost at PH is average result - i think this was introduced in one of earlier patches... As for the Boise....well... sorry to say that this is is also common result[8\|].. you are not the first one...

2ndACR -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 7:20:56 PM)
Yep, everyone knows that Boise was re-fitted in a earlier patch to have photons and force fields.[:D] I hunt Boise down with baby KB everytime. I get her most of the time too. Forget about taking her on with surface ships. I hate that blasted ship.

Oliver Heindorf -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 7:54:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 2ndACR Yep, everyone knows that Boise was re-fitted in a earlier patch to have photons and force fields.[:D] I hunt Boise down with baby KB everytime. I get her most of the time too. Forget about taking her on with surface ships. I hate that blasted ship. hehe very true, Luskan is Boised poised becasue against me, he even lost 1 CA & 3 DD's and a 4th DD got away with damage. Of course, Boise was lost but in return of a CA and 3 DD's [:'(]...

Nemo121 -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 8:00:41 PM)
Aye, Boise a 2 CA committment in my games. And even then sometimes a daitai of Nells is needed to finish the damned ship off. The best way to kill the Boise is to destroy it from the air. I destroyed it and all it sister ships at PH in a couple of weeks of aerial attacks. Cost me a lot of good pilots but saved me some even more irreplaceable CLs and CAs. Sometimes the best way to fight a certain ship is to just approach it from a different angle.

String -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 8:17:43 PM)
Well, she's a Brooklyn class CL. Basically a CA with CL guns. And lots of good CL guns btw.

Capt. Harlock -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/2/2006 10:52:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Luskan Operation Deviation - almost total failure. My best surface combat admirals let me down - I intercepted all six of my targets - however I only nailed 1 of them, let three of them escape without damage, and the two lone CL targets Boise and Tromp king hit me. The tally is 4 destroyers already sunk, 4 more sinking (won't float long enough for Raver's air crews to finish them), 3 destroyers crippled and about to be sunk by dutch pilots, and 2 destroyers with a chance of surviving. All up 11 destroyers - gone on turn 1. Not to mention two shattered CLs that won't make it back alive. Operation Deviation was supposed to make Raver so mad at loosing all his surface forces, that he would send in PoW and Repulse - hopefully to Kuching or Khota Bharu and that would be the end of that (I don't mind revealing this part of the plan because it ain't gonna happen now!!!!!!!). Christ - he may still show up and I'd loose 4 BBs to his 1 damaged. grrrrr [:@] Raver is still luckier than he has any right to be. My sympathies -- I remember one game of Pacific War where my PH strike went in beautifully, except that none of the many bomb and torpedo hits I obtained were critical. The BB's were repaired in three or four months, and that set the tone for the rest of the game. Raver is indeed lucky, but I think the results against Boise are fairly realistic. It's useful to remember that she was actually a heavy cruiser with 6" guns, and lots of them. Once the Long Lances miss, the Boise outranged any of your IJN guns, and she was theoretically capable of squirting out two shells a second.

Raverdave -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 12:30:17 AM)
The best laid plans of mice and bananas ! Luskan was given a huge free swing on the first turn and he muffed it. He had a chance to recover on turn two, and guess what? He muffed it a second time ! Little does he know that he has left a wide gap in his lines which will be suitable exploited in the near future. Ratbrain is right about Pearl Harbour�.from the Japanese POV it is better to damage a lot more ships rather than sink them as it the presents a huge resource drain for the US repair facilities on the west coast. Not only that but by having all of the repair yards choked with broke ships, it impacts on the ability to do ship upgrades. China is quite and so far there are no signs of any moves towards a fast rush for Burma I wonder if I can bluff him in Java a second time round?

Andy Mac -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 12:33:34 AM)
Ohhh that would be evil even Luskan wouldnt fall for THAT bluff twice you gloated to much the first time round [:D][:D][:D]

Luskan -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 12:43:20 AM)
Java is already mine. Wouldn't worry about whatever Raver says in the meantime. I also love it when he talks about the Japanese POV . . . if only he'd ever played the japs he'd be able to talk about it with any credibility! He is right about muffing the first strike . . . and the second unfortunately. I've got a different strategy in China - storming over the Chinese didn't work last time. This time I'm going to be careful (and unstoppable) by over preparing every battle, stacking the odds way in my favour. Boise . . . disappeared on turn 2. Raver's sent her due east probably - in which case she'll get picked up further out. Of course, my dismal performance has excited a raft of opponents eager to get a piece of my banana.

Ron Saueracker -> RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! (11/3/2006 1:01:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Luskan quote: ORIGINAL: Raverdave Gee they write some crap on the back of wine bottles, listen to this............." Following fermentation this wine underwent oak maturation, resulting in a soft and round wine with good length of flavour."�� Now fellow readers, I ask you, how the fluck to you measure a "good length of flavour" ??????�� These wine companies must hire the biggest ponce that they can find to write this crap......Oooo wait a second......I just remembered that banana boy works for one of these types of companys.� Are you a ponce Luskan?�� ( Damn this is a good drop of wine hic) The woman who wrote that label (most of the labels on wine in Australia in fact) is hot, so she gets away with it. How hot is she? Got a pic?[:D]

Raverdave -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 1:19:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark VII My money is on the Aussie who lives just south of Melbourne! I think Banana boy's plan was alittle ambitious. It seems he was counting on the Allied surface units to just roll over and sink when the lookout shouts "many strange ships sighted port side...about 25,000 yards at 285 degrees closing fast!!!!!". Captain announces..."all hands abandon ship, the Japs got the drop on us...no sense in fighting on!"[:D][:D][:D] Hey Dave, hows life in the weekend Navy? Get to drive any fast boats or fire any large weapons?[sm=00000106.gif] Say hello to the Wife unit and the kids, Kim and I wish you all well! G'day Mark VII ! Yup Wife Unit Mk 1 is doing fine. We don't have any weapons in Coast Guard as we are here to save lives and educate people about safe boating. However on the my local boat we can get 40 knots out of here, not bad for a 22 year old shark cat [:)] Please pass on all my best to your Wife Unit and give the pet units a pat on the head.

Luskan -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 1:22:13 AM)
Raver needs to stop yapping on the forum and send me a turn.

Raverdave -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 1:26:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Luskan Of course, my dismal performance has excited a raft of opponents eager to get a piece of my banana.� Eeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwwwwwwwwww[sm=vomit-smiley-020.gif]

Mark VII -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 1:33:30 AM)
I don't want a piece of your banana! Don't even like banana's. Yuk quote: ORIGINAL: Luskan Of course, my dismal performance has excited a raft of opponents eager to get a piece of my banana.�

Luskan -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 1:34:46 AM)
I've got leave from work (at last). I've had two days off this week, having friday and monday off, spending tuesday with work people at the track (melbourne cup) before I have to get back into it. Rather than relaxing I'm sitting here agonising about turns that people haven't sent me yet! Sad isn't it?

Raverdave -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 1:42:25 AM)
Well bollockchops, unlike you I have to work..........which what I am doing right now.

Raverdave -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 1:48:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Oliver Heindorf quote: ORIGINAL: 2ndACR Yep, everyone knows that Boise was re-fitted in a earlier patch to have photons and force fields.[:D] I hunt Boise down with baby KB everytime. I get her most of the time too. Forget about taking her on with surface ships. I hate that blasted ship. hehe very true, Luskan is Boised poised becasue against me, he even lost 1 CA & 3 DD's and a 4th DD got away with damage. Of course, Boise was lost but in return of a CA and 3 DD's [:'(]... Haben Sie so begann Ihr Spiel? In welchem Stadium des Krieges sind Sie Kerle? Wenn Sie intelligent sind, konnten Sie Nutzen aus der Tatsache versuchen und ziehen w�nschen, da� er noch nicht v�llig bis zur Geschwindigkeit ist.[;)]

wworld7 -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 3:12:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Luskan Of course, my dismal performance has excited a raft of opponents eager to get a piece of my banana. I almost "lost" my dinner reading this sentance... Flipper

Raverdave -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 4:52:21 AM)
A poor choice of words ! Kinda matches Luskan's military choices as well [:D]

JeffroK -> RE: Worst Jap turn 1 ever (11/3/2006 5:10:26 AM)
Might match his Financial situation, Bananananas are bloody expensive!! Is this a record , 2 pages of AAR and your are up to 9 Dec 41, you have finished Day 2 havent you!!

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