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Sardaukar -> RE: Japanese complete operations at Luzon... (9/11/2009 7:26:59 PM)
Regarding + in shock, I thought that is automatic with every shock attack. It just indicates that shock attack is one thing that makes attack more powerful. He sure is burning a lot of troops with those too. If he continues shock attacks like that, his troops will be in awful shape after few days.

devoncop -> RE: Japanese complete operations at Luzon... (9/11/2009 7:59:01 PM)
I definately agree with Sardukar that his fatigue and disruption levels will be bad if he carries on with continuous shock attacks. On first glance the casualty figures seem to be harsh on the Singapore garrison given relatively even guns/vehicles and superior leadership but the big imponderable is the experience levels of the troops.........Are your troops managing on mid 50's or so experience or worse? In my scenario I see US Marines with experience in the 70's which would imply a 50% advantage in relative experience over Japanese garrison units.If the situation is reversed in Singers then this could be the explanation. Bear in mind though your relative troop reserves and anything like a 1:1 casualty rate is a huge plus for the allies at this stage of the war. (I really am wasted as a police officer..... I could have made millions in PR [:D]) Chhers Ian

aztez -> RE: Japanese complete operations at Luzon... (9/13/2009 6:20:24 PM)
Sardaukar: I get your point allthough disabled and destroyed units are somewhat diffrent. I really hope your views on the "assaults" situation is correct since he has another 3000av streamrolling towards Sian. I know diffrent theatre but same "scenario". The Singapore defending av value has dropped below 500 and with those forts the next assault will be the deathblow. He rested his troops last two turns but I have no troops to kick him out. Glad we didn't have these troops on our winter war vs russians! devoncop: Yeah. Those casualty levels did "stun" me a bit since my troops were well supplied, good leardership provided and had the forts on my side. The tables hopefully will turn when we advance further into the game. It is safe to say I have taken on quite a beating so far. Oh, your line of work most certainly wohn't be "boring". If you ever get that million I have few loans to be payed out! Thanks for the comments guys. Sometimes the sun is not shining eventhough you do not see the clouds. We shall battle on againts evil japanese empire!

aztez -> RE: Japanese complete operations at Luzon... (9/13/2009 6:21:33 PM)
I had my young daughters with me this weekend so I was unable to do an update. I kind of we short of time since with them time flies fast. Now they are unfortunately back with ex-girlfriend so here we goa again. China (february 17th through 20th 1942) The last update did show that 11 enemy units had advance towards Sian. This is the 1st major ground combat with the new HR and we managed to repulse the initial assault. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 85,44 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 52237 troops, 418 guns, 104 vehicles, Assault Value = 1542 Defending force 59878 troops, 269 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1565 Japanese adjusted assault: 761 Allied adjusted defense: 1834 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1200 casualties reported Squads: 7 destroyed, 178 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 108 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Vehicles lost 11 (0 destroyed, 11 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2949 casualties reported Squads: 8 destroyed, 157 disabled Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 185 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) Assaulting units: 9th Ind.Mixed Brigade 102nd NCPC Route Brigade 6th Division 3rd Division 12th RGC Temp. Division 13th Tank Regiment 11th RGC Ind. Brigade 61st Infantry Brigade 35th/B Division 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Mortar Battalion Defending units: 30th Chinese/A Corps 92nd Chinese Corps 41st Chinese Corps 85th Chinese Corps 7th Chinese Corps 30th Chinese/B Corps 90th Chinese/A Corps 90th Chinese/B Corps 84th Chinese Corps 77th Chinese/C Corps 5th War Area 21st Group Army 2nd Group Army 22nd Group Army 31st Group Army If this had been done with "shock" assault mode I think we would have been routed here. Thats the good news than last turn showed additional enemy troops entering the hex. We got an summary through bombardment assault. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 85,44 Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 61517 troops, 487 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 3340 Defending force 56934 troops, 269 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1421 Allied ground losses: 317 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 20 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Assaulting units: 12th RGC Temp. Division 61st Infantry Brigade 102nd NCPC Route Brigade 110th Division 13th Tank Regiment 37th Division 11th RGC Ind. Brigade 3rd Division 6th Division 35th/B Division 8th Ind.Mixed Brigade 35th/A Division 9th Ind.Mixed Brigade 41st Division 35th/C Division 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Mortar Battalion Defending units: 30th Chinese/A Corps 7th Chinese Corps 30th Chinese/B Corps 90th Chinese/B Corps 84th Chinese Corps 90th Chinese/A Corps 92nd Chinese Corps 41st Chinese Corps 85th Chinese Corps 77th Chinese/C Corps 5th War Area 22nd Group Army 2nd Group Army 21st Group Army 31st Group Army Ouch, Now the hex shows up that 17 units are there and the bombardment battle reveals that he has 3000 av points ready for battle. This definately is not good keeping mind the combat "spirit" of the chinese. I cannot start moving my troops out here because it takes time to travel via combat "mode. Another thing is that I do not want give him free pass here. We might heading towards yet another ground combat disaster. Fingers crossed this wohn't happen though, Dave is also hindering my movement towards Sian. He has 6 units entering the hex next to Loyang. Looking at the bright side at least you guys will see some big battles here! [image]local://upfiles/15617/0948410EEDD64F78B5BBF7FF0CE3F6A0.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: Japanese complete operations at Luzon... (9/13/2009 6:22:25 PM)
Java (february 17th through 20th 1942) The last turn intel showed up significant TF just north of Makassar. Too bad our submarines were unable to engage these ships when they entered the area. As said more submarines are enroute towards Java already. This enemy TF has carrier cover definately and I assume the target is Makassar since it will give him another lba airfield which can assault againts Soerebaja (Java) and Timor. Allied signit indicated there are troops readying for action againts Darwin already. So, I decieded to gamble a bit. I sent large cruiser TF into Makassar to intervene with these landings. His carriers most definately are not on the coastal hex so IF we are lucky we can engage his carriers during night phase. This is an big IF since the cruiser TF can move 8 hexes and Makassar is 10 hexes away. I did however set the react to enemy to max 6 hexes. We shall know soon enough how did this went down. I know he expects resistance but maybe this bold move is unexpected. Even if we get toasted here it's not the end of the world since surface combat TF will be hard to maintain soon enough due to lba threat building up in Borneo. [image]local://upfiles/15617/0E0EA1632E71427486B6D6539EC60B34.jpg[/image]

aztez -> Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/13/2009 8:24:08 PM)
China (february 21st and 22nd 1942) This is based on combat report summary. I will use the same pic as in previous turn since it pretty much describes/shows all the key areas. Lets start with anticipated ground combat north of Nanyang. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 85,44 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 111572 troops, 835 guns, 227 vehicles, Assault Value = 3397 Defending force 56847 troops, 269 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1420 Japanese adjusted assault: 1428 Allied adjusted defense: 1180 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 4302 casualties reported Squads: 52 destroyed, 232 disabled Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 214 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled Vehicles lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled) Allied ground losses: 5995 casualties reported Squads: 13 destroyed, 318 disabled Non Combat: 71 destroyed, 226 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 17 disabled Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled) Assaulting units: 11th RGC Ind. Brigade 9th Ind.Mixed Brigade 8th Ind.Mixed Brigade 41st Division 51st Recon Regiment 61st Infantry Brigade 35th/A Division 13th Tank Regiment 37th Division 6th Division 9th Armored Car Co 102nd NCPC Route Brigade 3rd Division 12th RGC Temp. Division 110th Division 35th/B Division 35th/C Division 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Mortar Battalion Defending units: 85th Chinese Corps 30th Chinese/A Corps 7th Chinese Corps 92nd Chinese Corps 30th Chinese/B Corps 90th Chinese/B Corps 84th Chinese Corps 90th Chinese/A Corps 41st Chinese Corps 77th Chinese/C Corps 22nd Group Army 5th War Area 2nd Group Army 21st Group Army 31st Group Army -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 85,44 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 107846 troops, 835 guns, 225 vehicles, Assault Value = 3318 Defending force 52242 troops, 269 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1150 Japanese adjusted assault: 890 Allied adjusted defense: 700 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 2437 casualties reported Squads: 37 destroyed, 156 disabled Non Combat: 33 destroyed, 146 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled Vehicles lost 15 (0 destroyed, 15 disabled) Allied ground losses: 4287 casualties reported Squads: 134 destroyed, 132 disabled Non Combat: 123 destroyed, 202 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) Assaulting units: 35th/B Division 11th RGC Ind. Brigade 9th Ind.Mixed Brigade 3rd Division 51st Recon Regiment 102nd NCPC Route Brigade 41st Division 12th RGC Temp. Division 6th Division 35th/A Division 8th Ind.Mixed Brigade 9th Armored Car Co 110th Division 12th Indpt Infantry Regiment 13th Tank Regiment 61st Infantry Brigade 37th Division 35th/C Division 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Mortar Battalion Defending units: 30th Chinese/A Corps 30th Chinese/B Corps 85th Chinese Corps 41st Chinese Corps 90th Chinese/A Corps 7th Chinese Corps 92nd Chinese Corps 90th Chinese/B Corps 84th Chinese Corps 77th Chinese/C Corps 21st Group Army 2nd Group Army 5th War Area 22nd Group Army 31st Group Army Two big battles and both ended up with 1:1 odds. I think it is safe to say that with shock assaults this battle would have all but done. Both sides got hammered badly. The second assault can be explained with the chinese supply levels. I do not have the turn yet but the 1st battle propably did eat quite a lot of ammo. The 2nd japanese army that av power was unidentified revealed itself. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 86,43 Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 15908 troops, 100 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 537 Defending force 30374 troops, 166 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 784 Allied ground losses: 523 casualties reported Squads: 9 destroyed, 16 disabled Non Combat: 19 destroyed, 29 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled) Assaulting units: 15th Ind.Mixed Brigade 12th Tank Regiment 16th RGC Temp. Division 3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade 8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 38th Chinese Corps 61st Chinese Corps 96th Chinese Corps 80th Chinese Corps 90th Chinese/C Corps 8th Group Army 14th Group Army 4th Chinese Base Force 10th Chinese Base Force So the main thrust is definately coming through Nanyang area. I need think this through with the new intel we got. In the southern china Nanning was seized by 10 000 enemy troops. I might retake the base swiftly since I do have the firepower to pull this off. Than again I do not whether it is actually worth the effort. The isolated troops described earlier are nearing the chinese frontlines. Last turn we captured back the abandoned base at Kanhsien. [image]local://upfiles/15617/642B03359FC243C5820ACB5CB4133601.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/13/2009 8:25:24 PM)
Makassar (february 21st and 22nd 1942) ABDA surface forces engaged the enemy operations at Makassar. Unfortunately we did not inflict any significant damage here. The operation itself "worked" out since we managed to encounter enemy surface tf + invasion transports before any airstrikes were done. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Makassar at 65,106, Range 18,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Mogami, Shell hits 1 CA Suzuya CA Kumano, Shell hits 10 CL Tama, Shell hits 3 DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 2 DD Nowaki DD Arashi, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Hagikaze DD Arashio DD Shinonome DMS W-9, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships CL Sumatra, Shell hits 5, on fire CL Dragon, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Durban, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Marblehead, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Barker, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Bulmer, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 14, and is sunk DD Parrott, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Stewart, Shell hits 1 Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 30,000 yards Range closes to 24,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards Range closes to 18,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 18,000 yards Dockery, L.R. crosses the 'T' CA Kumano engages CL Marblehead at 18,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Durban at 18,000 yards CL Dragon engages CA Kumano at 18,000 yards CL Dragon engages DD Shinonome at 18,000 yards CL Durban engages DMS W-9 at 18,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Marblehead at 11,000 yards CA Mogami engages CL Sumatra at 11,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CL Tama at 11,000 yards DD Shinonome engages DD Parrott at 11,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Arashi at 11,000 yards DD Bulmer engages DD Arashi at 11,000 yards DD Bulmer engages DD Nowaki at 11,000 yards DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Bulmer at 11,000 yards CL Durban engages DMS W-9 at 11,000 yards Range closes to 9,000 yards CL Tama engages CL Marblehead at 9,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Durban at 9,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Dragon at 9,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Sumatra at 9,000 yards DD Shinonome engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards DD Arashio engages DD Parrott at 9,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Hagikaze at 9,000 yards DD Arashi engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Nowaki at 9,000 yards DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Bulmer at 9,000 yards CL Marblehead engages DMS W-9 at 9,000 yards Range closes to 7,000 yards CL Tama engages CL Marblehead at 7,000 yards CL Durban engages CL Tama at 7,000 yards CA Mogami engages CL Dragon at 7,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Sumatra at 7,000 yards DD Shinonome engages DD Paul Jones at 7,000 yards DD Arashio engages DD Bulmer at 7,000 yards DD Shinonome engages DD Paul Jones at 7,000 yards DD Hagikaze engages DD Bulmer at 7,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Paul Jones at 7,000 yards DD Bulmer sunk by DD Tokitsukaze at 7,000 yards CL Dragon engages DMS W-9 at 7,000 yards Range increases to 9,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Sumatra at 9,000 yards CL Durban engages CA Kumano at 9,000 yards CA Mogami engages CL Dragon at 9,000 yards CL Tama engages CL Sumatra at 9,000 yards DD Hagikaze engages DD Stewart at 9,000 yards DD Arashio engages DD Parrott at 9,000 yards DD Arashio engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards DD Arashi engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Paul Jones at 9,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Tokitsukaze at 9,000 yards CL Sumatra engages DMS W-9 at 9,000 yards Range increases to 12,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Kumano at 12,000 yards CL Durban engages CA Kumano at 12,000 yards CL Dragon engages CA Mogami at 12,000 yards CL Durban engages CL Tama at 12,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Shinonome at 12,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Arashio at 12,000 yards DD Arashi engages DD Paul Jones at 12,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Nowaki at 12,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Nowaki at 12,000 yards DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Stewart at 12,000 yards CL Durban engages DMS W-9 at 12,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Kumano at 12,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Durban at 12,000 yards CL Dragon engages CL Tama at 12,000 yards CL Sumatra engages CA Mogami at 12,000 yards DD Arashi engages DD Stewart at 12,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Shinonome at 12,000 yards DD Hagikaze engages DD Paul Jones at 12,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Barker at 12,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Parrott at 12,000 yards DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Parrott at 12,000 yards CL Sumatra engages DMS W-9 at 12,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Durban at 12,000 yards CL Durban engages CA Suzuya at 12,000 yards CL Durban engages CA Mogami at 12,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Sumatra at 12,000 yards DD Shinonome engages DD Stewart at 12,000 yards DD Arashio engages DD Parrott at 12,000 yards DD Arashio engages DD Paul Jones at 12,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Arashi at 12,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Tokitsukaze at 12,000 yards CL Marblehead engages DMS W-9 at 12,000 yards Range increases to 13,000 yards CL Dragon engages CA Kumano at 13,000 yards CA Suzuya engages CL Dragon at 13,000 yards CL Dragon engages CA Mogami at 13,000 yards CL Sumatra engages CL Tama at 13,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Hagikaze at 13,000 yards DD Arashio engages DD Parrott at 13,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Arashio at 13,000 yards DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Barker at 13,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Stewart at 13,000 yards DD Barker engages DD Tokitsukaze at 13,000 yards CL Dragon engages DMS W-9 at 13,000 yards Dockery, L.R. orders Allied TF to disengage Range increases to 15,000 yards CA Suzuya engages CL Marblehead at 15,000 yards CL Dragon engages CA Suzuya at 15,000 yards CA Mogami engages CL Sumatra at 15,000 yards CL Sumatra engages CA Mogami at 15,000 yards DD Arashi engages DD Stewart at 15,000 yards DD Hagikaze engages DD Paul Jones at 15,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Barker at 15,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Barker at 15,000 yards CL Sumatra engages DMS W-9 at 15,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Kumano at 15,000 yards CL Tama engages CL Durban at 15,000 yards CL Durban engages CA Mogami at 15,000 yards CL Tama engages CL Sumatra at 15,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Arashio at 15,000 yards DD Hagikaze engages DD Parrott at 15,000 yards DD Hagikaze engages DD Barker at 15,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Arashi at 15,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Nowaki at 15,000 yards DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Stewart at 15,000 yards CL Marblehead engages DMS W-9 at 15,000 yards Range increases to 16,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Dragon at 16,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Suzuya at 16,000 yards CA Mogami engages CL Dragon at 16,000 yards CL Durban engages CL Tama at 16,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Stewart at 16,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Parrott at 16,000 yards DD Paul Jones engages DD Tokitsukaze at 16,000 yards DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Barker at 16,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Paul Jones at 16,000 yards DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Paul Jones at 16,000 yards CL Dragon engages DMS W-9 at 16,000 yards Range closes to 15,000 yards CA Suzuya engages CL Marblehead at 15,000 yards CL Sumatra engages CA Suzuya at 15,000 yards CA Mogami engages CL Marblehead at 15,000 yards CL Tama engages CL Sumatra at 15,000 yards DD Shinonome engages DD Stewart at 15,000 yards DD Arashio engages DD Stewart at 15,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Hagikaze at 15,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Nowaki at 15,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Tokitsukaze at 15,000 yards Range closes to 14,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Kumano at 14,000 yards CL Durban engages CA Suzuya at 14,000 yards CL Dragon engages CL Tama at 14,000 yards CL Tama engages CL Sumatra at 14,000 yards DD Shinonome engages DD Barker at 14,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Arashio at 14,000 yards DD Hagikaze engages DD Paul Jones at 14,000 yards DD Arashi engages DD Stewart at 14,000 yards Range increases to 16,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Sumatra at 16,000 yards CA Mogami engages CL Durban at 16,000 yards CA Mogami engages CL Durban at 16,000 yards CL Sumatra engages CL Tama at 16,000 yards DD Stewart engages DD Arashio at 16,000 yards DD Shinonome engages DD Paul Jones at 16,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Arashi at 16,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Barker at 16,000 yards Range increases to 20,000 yards CA Suzuya engages CL Marblehead at 20,000 yards CL Marblehead engages CA Mogami at 20,000 yards CL Sumatra engages CL Tama at 20,000 yards DD Arashi engages DD Stewart at 20,000 yards DD Arashio engages DD Barker at 20,000 yards DD Arashi engages DD Barker at 20,000 yards DD Nowaki engages DD Parrott at 20,000 yards Range increases to 25,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Marblehead at 25,000 yards CA Mogami engages CL Marblehead at 25,000 yards CA Kumano engages CL Sumatra at 25,000 yards CL Marblehead engages DD Hagikaze at 25,000 yards Range increases to 30,000 yards CA Suzuya engages CL Dragon at 30,000 yards Task forces break off... Damn. I was hoping for better results. Only to score couple of hits into enemy CA's in not much. ABDA forces were driven off and we didn't engage the enemy transports unloading at Makassar. Thus meaning this base will fall next turn. After this battle of Makassar enemy carrier aircraft and lba bombers launched several strikes. I cannot comment on the actual losses yet but I do think quite a few hits were made. As expected the sweep + bombing missions started too. I was unable to do much againts these. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7 Allied aircraft B-339D x 3 75A-7 Hawk x 7 P-40E Warhawk x 16 No Japanese losses No Allied losses CAP engaged: 1-Vl.G.IV with 75A-7 Hawk (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes 3-Vl.G.IV with B-339D (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters to 26000. Raid is overhead 20th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling) 11 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 28000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 56,104 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 22 G3M2 Nell x 17 Allied aircraft B-339D x 2 75A-7 Hawk x 3 P-40E Warhawk x 7 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-339D: 1 destroyed 75A-7 Hawk: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed Allied Ships xAK Doryssa, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Boelongan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 4 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 13 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo CAP engaged: 1-Vl.G.IV with 75A-7 Hawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead 3-Vl.G.IV with B-339D (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 18000 Raid is overhead 20th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 16000 Raid is overhead ...and few more on that sort of strikes took place. To me this is bad. I do not know how high is he flying. I have my CAP at 16 000 - 20 000 and didn't shoot down much. I had similar experience with AVG in china. Those guys tried to put up an CAP around 20 000 feet but where slaughtered. These guys are now drinking beer in Chungking. I guess I'am overlooking some issue here. We must do better with our CAP efforts. [image]local://upfiles/15617/8B52B8BB61C64D6CB35D58582D860A8A.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/13/2009 8:26:50 PM)
Singapore (february 21st and 22nd 1942) The battle of Singapore is over as expected. IJA conducted 2 shock assaults and commonwealth forces surrendered. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Singapore (50,84) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 64214 troops, 512 guns, 401 vehicles, Assault Value = 1772 Defending force 38215 troops, 435 guns, 224 vehicles, Assault Value = 526 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2 Japanese adjusted assault: 2131 Allied adjusted defense: 1209 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 2872 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 131 disabled Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 199 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 57 disabled Vehicles lost 28 (3 destroyed, 25 disabled) Allied ground losses: 5029 casualties reported Squads: 39 destroyed, 87 disabled Non Combat: 124 destroyed, 220 disabled Engineers: 11 destroyed, 27 disabled Guns lost 16 (8 destroyed, 8 disabled) Vehicles lost 39 (17 destroyed, 22 disabled) Assaulting units: 2nd Engineer Regiment 12th Engineer Regiment 21st Infantry Regiment Imperial Guards Division 5th Recon Regiment 4th Ind. Engineer Regiment 41st Infantry Regiment 2nd Recon Regiment 23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment 55th Infantry Regiment II./143rd Infantry Battalion 114th Infantry Regiment 11th Infantry Regiment 42nd Infantry Regiment 15th Ind. Engineer Regiment 14th Tank Regiment 56th Infantry Regiment II./4th Infantry Battalion 1st Tank Regiment 16th Naval Guard Unit 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 92nd JAAF AF Bn /1 34th Field AA Battalion 43rd Const Co 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 35th Field AA Battalion 36th JAAF AF Bn /1 34th Road Const Co 5th Field Artillery Regiment 32nd Field AA Battalion 51st Field AA Battalion 8th Field AF Construction Battalion 15th Const Co 11th Special Base Force Southern Army 25th Army 6th Field AF Const Bn /1 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 17th JAAF AF Bn 41st JAAF AF Bn 96th JAAF AF Bn /1 Defending units: 3/16th Punjab Battalion 2nd Gordons Battalion SSVF Brigade 3rd Cavalry Regiment 2nd Loyal Battalion 8th Indian Brigade Singapore Fortress 11th Indian Division 5/14th Punjab Battalion 2nd Argylls Battalion 22nd Australian Brigade 2/17 Dogra Battalion 27th Australian Brigade 5/2nd Punjab Battalion 224 Group RAF 3rd Heavy AA Regiment 24th NZ Pioneer Coy 109th RN Base Force III Indian Corps Malayan Air Wing 22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment 111th RAF Base Force 109th RAF Base Force 110th RAF Base Force Singapore Base Force 223 Group RAF AHQ Far East Malaya Army 1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment 5th Field Regiment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Singapore (50,84) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 61865 troops, 512 guns, 398 vehicles, Assault Value = 1652 Defending force 34612 troops, 429 guns, 211 vehicles, Assault Value = 413 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Japanese adjusted assault: 2064 Allied adjusted defense: 569 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Singapore !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 2100 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 88 disabled Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 165 disabled Engineers: 10 destroyed, 85 disabled Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 30 (3 destroyed, 27 disabled) Allied ground losses: 80623 casualties reported Squads: 1228 destroyed, 322 disabled Non Combat: 1901 destroyed, 1103 disabled Engineers: 353 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 405 (390 destroyed, 15 disabled) Vehicles lost 305 (285 destroyed, 20 disabled) Units destroyed 30 Assaulting units: 12th Engineer Regiment 56th Infantry Regiment 15th Ind. Engineer Regiment II./4th Infantry Battalion 11th Infantry Regiment 21st Infantry Regiment 2nd Recon Regiment 114th Infantry Regiment 14th Tank Regiment 41st Infantry Regiment 55th Infantry Regiment 1st Tank Regiment Imperial Guards Division 4th Ind. Engineer Regiment II./143rd Infantry Battalion 2nd Engineer Regiment 42nd Infantry Regiment 23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment 5th Recon Regiment 16th Naval Guard Unit 51st Field AA Battalion 35th Field AA Battalion 15th Const Co 25th Army 92nd JAAF AF Bn /1 36th JAAF AF Bn /1 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 43rd Const Co 8th Field AF Construction Battalion 17th JAAF AF Bn 32nd Field AA Battalion 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Field Artillery Regiment 11th Special Base Force 6th Field AF Const Bn /1 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 34th Field AA Battalion Southern Army 41st JAAF AF Bn 34th Road Const Co 96th JAAF AF Bn /1 Defending units: 3rd Cavalry Regiment Singapore Fortress SSVF Brigade 22nd Australian Brigade 11th Indian Division 5/14th Punjab Battalion 2/17 Dogra Battalion 27th Australian Brigade 2nd Gordons Battalion 3/16th Punjab Battalion 8th Indian Brigade 2nd Loyal Battalion 2nd Argylls Battalion 5/2nd Punjab Battalion 223 Group RAF 22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment 109th RN Base Force 109th RAF Base Force 224 Group RAF Malaya Army III Indian Corps 1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment Malayan Air Wing AHQ Far East 24th NZ Pioneer Coy 110th RAF Base Force 3rd Heavy AA Regiment 111th RAF Base Force Singapore Base Force Another odd combat summary. We actually destroyed 6 enemy infantry units while we did disable 175 of them. Personally I do not think the shock assaults are working in the current AE. As said if they are working than it's description needs to be described better. I do not see how on earth he would have just 6 units destroyed when these guys would be charging towards fortified positions. Doesn't make any sense at all. At least the operations here are over too. By the february 22nd he has complete control over malaya, luzon and borneo. [image]local://upfiles/15617/C864977FD6CD4B8285B37A178B2DD970.jpg[/image]

Przemcio231 -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/13/2009 8:30:28 PM)
Aztez what is this supply bug you mentioned regarding Manila and Clark???:)

aztez -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/13/2009 8:39:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Przemcio231 Aztez what is this supply bug you mentioned regarding Manila and Clark???:) Hi Przemcio231 I had +20 000 supply points in Clark Field and Manila. I used the new adjust supply needed options here. Eventhough I had more than adequate levels stockpiled in Clark Field my ground units did not withdraw them into use. Thus meaning my combat av points + firepower got bad dice rolls since my troops were not adequately supplied. This was due to the fact the bases were competing againts each other and not giving the supplies to the troops. I think this was / will be fixed. Basically be careful and keep an eye if you use the new option. At the moment I vacuum supplies where needed and than reset supply needed to the automatic level.

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/13/2009 8:43:24 PM)
I agree with you that the main thrust is coming from Nanyang up towards SIAN. If you think about it, if he pushes up the road, capturing Sian and then continues his advance to the dot where the Sian- Lanchow road intersects with the road to Chungking, he can effectively eliminate all oil supplying your Chinese factories. No oil=no fuel=no HI running. That means no replacements for your losses and your pitiful trickle of supply becomes no supply at all. Longer term, your units that are destroyed (which they would be with no supply) will regenerate in Chungking as hollow shells without supply or the means to rebuild or effectively fight. South China is really nothing more than a side show for Japan. His goals there are to keep the allies far enough from the coast to prevent air bases from being established that could threaten his convoy lines back to Japan. For me, Changsha is one of the primary objectives here since it sits on road and rail junctions. No doubt about it, your war for China will be decided on the Sian-Lanchow road. On a positive note, you outright killed around a hundred combat squad in 85,44 and it will suck up a lot of armaments points and time for him to rebuild those losses.

aztez -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/14/2009 2:09:14 PM)
seydlitz: Yeah, I do know that. Thus basically meanig I cannot lose here or everything will fall apart. I did divert some 1500 worth of troops into Sian. These troops are coming from southern china which is as you stated an side show. I also send troops from Yenan towards Sian. Whether this will be enough remains to be seen. This is kind of do or die battles from now on. Intrestingly Singapore was not captured. It still holds and has around 250av value left. At least these guys forced him to assault one more time! Central Pacific (february 21st and 22nd 1942) We almost got lucky with one of our submarines. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Gardner Island at 146,147 Japanese Ships CV Zuikaku DD Yamagumo Allied Ships SS Silversides SS Silversides launches 6 torpedoes at CV Zuikaku Silversides diving deep .... DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yamagumo attacking submerged sub .... DD Yamagumo loses contact with SS Silversides Escort abandons search for sub ..but it wasn't to be. Damn, I mean we launched 6 torpedoes here!!! The positive thing is that intel is golden and these carriers are definately moving towards Pago Pago. I have some 70 Aircobra fighters there set on 90% CAP so it will not be an pleasure cruise. The bad thing is that there are transports unloading as we speak and ship losses will look imminent. Again it seems Dave feels confident about Java since his main carriers are still operating from Kwaleijin and Truk. [image]local://upfiles/15617/158F9D43A97F4224BB2A1A8889326CD9.jpg[/image]

offenseman -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/14/2009 5:32:15 PM)
Regarding Zuikaku: I wonder if you got lucky and Fog of War is not showing you the hit(s) on Zuikaku. Has anyone seen under-reporting of results like this?

SireChaos -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/14/2009 6:32:43 PM)
Wait... Zuikaku is escorted by only one DD?

aztez -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/14/2009 7:32:15 PM)
offenseman: Lets hope so and the question you asked remains to be answered. I really do not know whether FOW can under-report damage in naval battles. My intel screen still shows 2 BB's sunk but I'am 90% certain that this is not the case. We actually had another submarine attack againts the enemy carriers. No hits reported this turn either. The loss of Singapore was FOW but now it is actually captured. So, who knows. SireChaos: [:D] ...no, no and no! Dave brought in the cavalry so definately escorted by punch of more vessels here.

aztez -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/14/2009 7:34:51 PM)
Samoa Island (february 23rd and 24th 1942) Enemy carriers launched heavy raids againts transport shipping unloading at Pago Pago. The P-39D Aircobras intercepted the morning strike and shot down few enemy zero fighters. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,161 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 44 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 52 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 6 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 7 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet 4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet 1 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 13000 feet 2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 13000 feet CAP engaged: 50th PG/12th PS with P-39D Airacobra (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (20 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 16 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 17000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes 35th PG/40th PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (18 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 16 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 17000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes 35th PG/41st PS with P-39D Airacobra (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 8 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 17000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes After this initial strike there were total of 4 more airstrikes and our CAP did not cause much damage. I do not know what is the condition of these airgroups but I estimate that they should be ready for battle if he chooses to stay in the area. The following transports were sunk on this slaughter. xAK Shooting Star xAK Ruth Alexander xAK Examiner AM Kingfisher There were multiple hits reported so most like all of these vessels unloading supplies were lost. The firepower of this indicated that the TF's contained the KB itself. One strike had +100 aircraft in the air. As for the submarine action. Well, SS Silversides continued its lonely war effort. This time target was CV Akagi. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Savaii at 146,153 Japanese Ships CV Akagi CA Tone DD Arare DD Tanikaze Allied Ships SS Silversides SS Silversides launches 6 torpedoes at CV Akagi DD Arare attacking submerged sub .... DD Arare cannot reach attack position SS Silversides over DD Arare cannot reach attack position SS Silversides over DD Arare cannot reach attack position SS Silversides over DD Arare cannot establish contact with SS Silversides DD Tanikaze fails to find sub and abandons search DD Arare attacking submerged sub .... DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Arare fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub So if the reports are to be believed than we shot total of 12 torpedoes againts CV Zuikaku and CV Akagi and scored zero hits. I wish this is FOW but no way to tell. [image]local://upfiles/15617/DB7E6622C53A44538132DC37C5810814.jpg[/image]

aztez -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/14/2009 7:36:28 PM)
China (february 23rd and 24th 1942) The japanese army continued it push towards Sian. Unfortunately chinese were unable to stop the juggernaught offensive. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 85,44 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 112149 troops, 865 guns, 300 vehicles, Assault Value = 3215 Defending force 46943 troops, 269 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 867 Japanese adjusted assault: 849 Allied adjusted defense: 280 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 2416 casualties reported Squads: 29 destroyed, 112 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 106 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Vehicles lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled) Allied ground losses: 21725 casualties reported Squads: 720 destroyed, 42 disabled Non Combat: 560 destroyed, 56 disabled Engineers: 33 destroyed, 11 disabled Guns lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled) Units retreated 15 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 41st Division 11th RGC Ind. Brigade 35th/A Division 37th Division 6th Division 51st Recon Regiment 9th Armored Car Co 13th Tank Regiment 61st Infantry Brigade 110th Division 12th Indpt Infantry Regiment 8th Ind.Mixed Brigade 9th Ind.Mixed Brigade 102nd NCPC Route Brigade 3rd Division 35th/B Division 12th RGC Temp. Division 35th/C Division 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Mortar Battalion Defending units: 7th Chinese Corps 30th Chinese/B Corps 30th Chinese/A Corps 90th Chinese/A Corps 84th Chinese Corps 92nd Chinese Corps 41st Chinese Corps 90th Chinese/B Corps 85th Chinese Corps 77th Chinese/C Corps 2nd Group Army 22nd Group Army 5th War Area 21st Group Army 31st Group Army Damn. Those chinese were forced to retreat towards Sian. Now I need to organize my defenses here for the battle south of Sian. The orders will be issued to start moving troops into position there. I think I can muster around 3000av points in total. As said more troops are enroute towards this area. I have another 800av points trying to move north of Loyang. These guys are getting daily ground bombardments which are slowing down their progress. The situation is not good at all. I will move AVG into to the combat zone thus giving me 30 fighters that can cause at least some damage to the enemy. Allthough these guys have been highly disappointing so far. [image]local://upfiles/15617/1F0BB25FED05423EA720E7DC4A616B5B.jpg[/image]

cfulbright -> RE: US Carriers clash with KB... (9/14/2009 7:40:48 PM)
Aztez, Please clarify on reason for turning off repair on resources, and also which to turn off and which to leave on, of the following: Repair Shipyard (in Manila and Singapore) Resources Light Industry Heavy Industry Oil Refinery Resources Manpower

aztez -> RE: US Carriers clash with KB... (9/14/2009 8:04:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cfulbright Aztez, Please clarify on reason for turning off repair on resources, and also which to turn off and which to leave on, of the following: Repair Shipyard (in Manila and Singapore) Resources Light Industry Heavy Industry Oil Refinery Resources Manpower Hi! ..and welcome to this "journey". Ok. First I'am definately not the most skilled person to answer this but I will give my views. I don't think the allied industry as separated columns. Instead I think it as an whole. The basis of the orders to turn off any industrial repairs is simple. It is because it can eat up a lot of supplies. At this stage of war you know you are going lose a lot bases on the map. Thus repairing any industrial assets in ABDA, Malaya or Philippines is not wise at all. I don't want to repair factories for him instead I'am hoping to destroy as much as possible. If he hits any industrial targets than I'am more than happy to let him do so. I will leave the industrial repair ON in the "rear" areas where I do not think there is much threat or at least not imminent threat. Ie. India, WC and Pearl Harbour area. I did think whether to turn on the light industry repairs at Chungking. It came down to the fact that chinese are already in short of supplies. They need forts (which are somewhat useless now with AE) and more importantly ground units need them for battles. I don't think turning the light industry on would give me any benefits in "short" term and for now I need to think "short" term. There really is not much in china and unfortunately it is starting to show. Personally I would prefer to have off map supply feed for the chinese since I think it way too easy to starve this country out. To put it simple terms. I keep the repair ON in areas that are not threatened and turn them OFF in areas that I'am going to lose anyway. It all comes down to supply points.

treespider -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/14/2009 8:33:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aztez Assaulting units: 41st Division - From Kwantung Army 11th RGC Ind. Brigade 35th/A Division 37th Division 6th Division - From Wuchang/Hankow area 51st Recon Regiment 9th Armored Car Co 13th Tank Regiment - From Wuchang/Hankow area 61st Infantry Brigade 110th Division 12th Indpt Infantry Regiment 8th Ind.Mixed Brigade 9th Ind.Mixed Brigade 102nd NCPC Route Brigade 3rd Division - From Wuchang/Hankow area 35th/B Division 12th RGC Temp. Division 35th/C Division 2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 1st Mortar Battalion What does he have in Central China near Wuchang/Hankow? How about HK?

cfulbright -> RE: BB Ise reported sunk near Manila (9/14/2009 11:50:42 PM)
Aztez, I'm working my way through your AAR while I plot my first day's move in the GC, so please forgive these questions as they come in. Did you leave a subtender (AS type) in Manila, or did you send everything south except for PT's, DD's, and SS's?

seydlitz_slith -> RE: BB Ise reported sunk near Manila (9/15/2009 12:13:56 AM)
Aztez, do you have any other subs that you can throw over in the area where the KB is operating? You will continue to have duds but might get a lucky hit. Even if they are all duds, you will disrupt his tempo of operations. He will not be comfortable with his carriers mired down by submarines. It might alter his plans. Also, you can potentially run him out of depth charges pretty easily in the task forces, and that will make him even more nervous if your subs are still around.

Xxzard -> RE: BB Ise reported sunk near Manila (9/15/2009 3:45:42 AM)
How are you managing to get those subs to intercept the KB? I've been chasing the KB around Celebes for about a week now with 10+ subs, and despite having plenty of opportunities to intercept, no subs have made contact, much less an attack. Are they reacting or are you predicting where the KB will end up?

seydlitz_slith -> RE: BB Ise reported sunk near Manila (9/15/2009 4:55:53 AM)
Silversides has Captain Burlingame aboard. Historically he was plenty aggressive and plenty skilled. Just wait until Mush Morton and the crop of skippers that he groomed arrive. Seriously if you haven't adjusted your capatins to ensure that you have skilled and aggressive commanders then your intercept rate will be very low. Go get 'em Aztez!!!

Graymane -> RE: BB Ise reported sunk near Manila (9/15/2009 1:36:27 PM)
Good to see you still hanging in there! I seem to remember a screenshot where you are supplying the south pacific via Port Stanley. How many hexes is it from there to Suva or wherever your destination point is?

aztez -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/15/2009 8:18:17 PM)
Thanks for the comments guys! treespider: Nice to "see" you here. Good questions since my intel is not up the level I want. Simply because he has moved so much fighters / bombers into this theatre that I'am unable to do proper recon missions. I don't think he has that much in central area after those info's you stated. Than again he really doesn't need that much either since there light urban hex cities there and taking into consideration the chinese awful supply levels offensive most propably would be doomed. In the south I think he has decent av values. Simply because there seems to be recon and bomber activity. This kind of is an trademark for oncoming advance for Dave. But as said very hard to say due to the poor intel I have. Another thing to keep in mind is the new railroad movement particulary in central china, He can move quite a lot of reserve av troops anywhere within just days. I can only use combat movement which is much slower and thus meaning he has the iniative here. I would assume he has 1500-2000 av worth of troops ready to move to counter any chinese offensives. I did move up 30 AVG fighters into forthcoming turn since he seems to like bombard my troops moving towards Sian. So, lets see whether they can actually start shooting down enemy aircraft. The LRCAP is set on 20 000 feet. I'am moving those hammered chinese troops towards north. There are new defensive line to be outlayed just south of Sian. More reinforcements in their way from southern and central china areas. cfulbright: No need to explain. As said these forums have very helpful people around so there simply there are no "bad" questions. I did send the AS ships towards DEI and Oz. I only left 1 AS ship into Manila. You have decent numbers of fighters there at the beginning so it is highly unlikely he can cause any serious harm. The rest of the transports were send towards south. Too bad Dave managed to do text book ambush there so I lost a lot of ships near Borneo. The PT's and destroyers were left behind to contest any weakly escorted landings, Another thing they did was to tie down some enemy capital surface vessels. Take your time with the 1st turn. I think it took me some 20-30 hours. Moving around quicker now since I'am building up an rhytm on how to check turns. seydlitz: Pretty no other subs in the imminent area. Only SS Thresher lurking there and she had been ordered to move to intercept those enemy carriers. Yeah, my submarine warfare has been very disappointing to say at least. I haven't managed to hit anything with them in philippines nor in borneo areas. I really need to check what kind of captains they got onboard. As you stated SS Silversides has top quality skipper and this seems to be very important factor when decieding the effectiviness of sub warfare. Another area where the PP will be spent in forhcoming future. I think he has 3 separate TF's. Two of the seems to carrier TF's while the third is most likely tanker TF. I'am aiming to hit that with SS Thresher. Those P39 aircobras shot down around 20-30 enemy aircraft and few more with op losses. Not bad and I still have nearly 50 of them left these guys are set on 90% CAP. Lets hope the cheer will result to good fortunes! Xxzard: Oh, as I stated my sub warfare has been total disaster so far. I think you having kind of the same issues. I checked the skipper in SS Silversides and he is A class. So, I think we both need to start spending more PP on better captains in order to gain anything from it. I'am using max react 6 and the new patrol zone feature. I'am not that certain that this is they way to go though. I checked and very hard to say whether these submarines that launch strikes are reacting or not. Impossible to say. Graymane: Thanks. Yeah, I'am holding out for the skin of my teeth. Dave has kept his carriers in southern areas making raids there. We now twice encountered the mighty KB. Once at Suva and now at Pago Pago. Both times we have inflicted casualties to his aircrews. By looking at the turn I think he is staying around for another go here again. I hate to retreat and prefer fighting out. This has good and negative effects in diffrent situations. Port Stanley is secondary base. I have some ships hauling in supplies and such just in case it becomes more important. (Which it might) I haven't actually checked the total hex amounts from Port Stanley to Suva. It is significant though. You might want to build up hub or two in order shorten the distances. Personally I'am building up the Tahiti base. Lets hope for more suprises next turn. Dave has kept sweeping the airspace at Soerebaja with significant naval bombings too. If he launches next turn he will face up +100 fighters set on 90% CAP and hopefully get his plans thrown into waste basket. We that is if everything goes to plan ofcourse and not much has gone my way in this PBEM yet. Lets leave with an pic from SS Silversides. The skipper has good attributes all around. [image]local://upfiles/15617/914FFB7DE0B2488EAE1D197880614AD6.jpg[/image]

Smeulders -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/15/2009 8:30:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aztez I checked the skipper in SS Silversides and he is A class. So, I think we both need to start spending more PP on better captains in order to gain anything from it. I'am using max react 6 and the new patrol zone feature. I'am not that certain that this is they way to go though. I checked and very hard to say whether these submarines that launch strikes are reacting or not. Impossible to say. In my game against the AI I've had quite a lot of attacks from different subs, without having changed any leaders. I'm keeping reaction range at 0 or 1 and while some are patrolling, most have one hex where they stay. Problem with moving them around in patrol zones might be that they use a lot more fuel and thus can't stay on station as long. Haven't paid too much attention to it though, so not sure which are more effective, with/without patrol/reaction range.

Xxzard -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/16/2009 3:56:37 AM)
Well, it's worth metioning that earlier in my campaign, the subs that were sent to do damage to the Luzon invasion forces made 5+ attacks every day and even with defective torpedos managed to sink some number of japanese transports. And that is without replacing captains. In the DEI though, even with good coverage of choke points, the KB (technically 1/2 KB) slipped through several sub screens. It was my impression that ships could intercept mid ocean now, so this has been somewhat disappointing

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/16/2009 4:17:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Xxzard Well, it's worth metioning that earlier in my campaign, the subs that were sent to do damage to the Luzon invasion forces made 5+ attacks every day and even with defective torpedos managed to sink some number of japanese transports. And that is without replacing captains. In the DEI though, even with good coverage of choke points, the KB (technically 1/2 KB) slipped through several sub screens. It was my impression that ships could intercept mid ocean now, so this has been somewhat disappointing I think that your observations are quite sound Xxzard. In my pbem I have wondered why my opponent hasn't done more with his subs. I have seen several attacks that either missed or were duds, but I know that he could be doing much more in this area. Even with duds, eventually you will have some successes. One of the things that I like best about the allies is being able to play the sub campaign. I love history, and aside from the Japanese Navy in WWII I like to focus on the American sub campaign against Japan. I literally have two complete shelves of books on the submarine war including every book on the individual subs that I have been able to find or collect. (including "Silversides" by Robert Trumball which was published in 1945). Perhaps Aztez would be interested in discussing his submarine campaign and what he wants to do there. I would be more than happy to help him lay out his campaign to include where to patrol and which subs and captains make the better hunters forthe different missions. After all, I don't get to do this since I am playing Japan in my PBEM and that is the one thingthat I miss by not playing allies.

Sardaukar -> RE: Singapore falls.. ABDA cruisers engage enemy... battles rage in China (9/16/2009 6:36:18 AM)
In WitP my rule for selecting sub captains was like: 1. High Naval skill 2. If experienced boat crew, high aggressiveness 3. If unexperienced crew, lower aggressiveness High aggressiveness and low crew experience, big chance for sub getting damaged or sunk (hig aggressiveness commanders love to attack on surface etc.). Low naval skill, high aggressiveness and low crew exp...almost doomed sub. Seems to work in AE too.

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