Duckfang -> RE: Distant Worlds: Introduction of the alien races. (3/4/2010 7:54:02 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Wade1000 Yet...you agree with GalCiv2's mechanic of disallowing planetary bombardment and post conquest genocide options. (I am unfamiliar with what features Sword of the Stars has.) Correct me if I'm wrong, but GalCiv2 had several different methods of planetary assault. Off the top of my head there was conventional assault (ie, landing waves and waves of troops), core detonation, tidal disruption, poison gas, dropping asteroids on the planet, and a hearts & minds style information warfare. quote:
ORIGINAL: Sarissofoi Hahaha. Get real man. Look what happend on earth when people fighting each other. And then think that there is epic total war in space against alien races. Yeah, they are jerks. But ofcourse if you and your enemy agrre to some sort of deal(for example you sign that you dont use biochemical weapons) and then broke this deal then yeah - massive diplomatic penalty is understable. In other case - It is war. Remember : "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic." Dont espect that everobody will play nice in galaxy and dont ecspect that anobody will care if that don affect them. Congrats for completely ignoring what I said. I didn't say it doesn't happen or that no one does it. I said there should be repercussions for carrying it out. Remember how popular the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were after word of their atrocities got out? Remember how shocked most Germans were when they found out about the concentration camps? "Well I was at war!" isn't usually regarded as a very good way to excuse senseless acts of genocide and destruction. Some races wouldn't care about such things, but to any race similar to our own I'm pretty sure such things are abhorrent. Sometimes justified, perhaps, but outright genocide and extermination is still generally frowned upon. There are exceptions of course, and Wade touches on some of them quite well: quote:
I totaly believe that present or future Humans and similiar races would be willing to often do genocide via planetary bombardment and post conquest options. Especially if the target enemy races are Borg-like, Zerg-like(Starcraft), Flood-like(Halo), Tyranid-like(Warhammer 40,000), any various races like spiders,insects, or others similiar that are extremly different and hostile to us(like they eat us or do genocide against us), maybe like the Wraith of Stargate Atlantis, any robotic race that are extremly different and hostile to us(like they do genocide gainst us): maybe like Terminators and their Skynet AI leader, or like Replicators of Stargate-SG1 TV series. I do agree with this. Races like the Borg, Zerg and machine races can be reasoned in the minds of most people as not really being intelligent in the same way as we are, and thus genocide isn't really so different from culling an animal population - a necessary step. The same applies to a race that sees us as a food supply or one that has previously committed genocide against us. Though I doubt the game will go into this kind of depth (if Elliot does decide to add bombardment and genocide), it'd be nice to have a set of modifiers that control how your own population regard acts of genocide. For example, if Race A and Race B are at war over some disputed territory and both are a democratic Human-like (in terms of values, etc) race and Race A commits genocide against Race B they (Race A) might experience serious unrest against the perceived atrocities. Race B then retaliates with a similar act of genocide, but Race B's population is more willing to give it a pass on the grounds that "they deserved it" so Race B experiences perhaps still a small morale hit, but not nearly as large as the one Race A took. Or, as Wade said, bombarding a race of living nightmares like the Zerg shouldn't really bring any serious hits to your civilian morale. Also, as I pointed out earlier, if you're playing as the Zerg you shouldn't experience any of those kinds of morale penalties as your people either don't care or aren't capable of caring.
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