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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/19/2011 10:04:49 PM)

Alright, turn 99,87% done in the Northern, Northwest and Kalinin Fronts. Alea Iacta Est! I unleash the bears! [8D]

Encircled, that's the spirit! [sm=00000622.gif]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/19/2011 10:23:45 PM)

Ok, so I have sort of weakened the Western and Bryansk Fronts. I have unleashed the bears here as well, just in case... I launched 5 [pure] counter-attacks: 4 worked [8D]

In theory the danger might come from the south... the panzers you see at the bottom of the screenshot.

The case is I have a BIG objective here: holding Smolensk until turn 13 (12 would be ok). I don't think these panzers alone are going to 100% stop me from achieving this objective. But of course I might be utterly wrong.

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alfonso -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/19/2011 10:57:37 PM)

You can move the units you have in forts 4 around Leningrad to dig in another hex (although I really doubt this digging is going to be necessary...but just in case).



TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/19/2011 11:07:50 PM)

In the Southwest Front I have [finally!] some different news. On this turn I have sent like 7 rifle divisions (STAVKA Reserves) to this area. I am starting to think about containing my estimated e-enemy here as well [8D] I should be bringing divisions now that the situation in the northern fronts is more or less stabilized.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/19/2011 11:14:01 PM)

The Southern Front

quote:

ORIGINAL: alfonso
You can move the units you have in forts 4 around Leningrad to dig in another hex (although I really doubt this digging is going to be necessary...but just in case).


Hey, excellent advice! Thanks [&o] Yes, I hope this operation saves Leningrad (if it more or less works I will have to think about a name and bring my old pics aka the two bears running after the little girl, etc. [:D]). I really don't know. 2ndACR has to move and maybe he has a cunning plan, like when he annihilated my Southwest Front [8D]


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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/19/2011 11:17:52 PM)

And finally Crimea. The Coastal Army HQ is in charge.

Oh, and I forgot to mention: Odessa fell on the FIRST ASSAULT (this turn)! 2ndACR didn't make the mistake my other opponent made (I resisted 3 attacks/turns on my other game) [&o]

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randallw -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/19/2011 11:21:56 PM)

I took a quick glance at your opponent's AAR and could tell you what he is up to, but that would be unfair.



TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/19/2011 11:31:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: randallw

I took a quick glance at your opponent's AAR and could tell you what he is up to, but that would be unfair.


LOL

If his plan is not about me trapping some panzers in the Kalinin Front, then I don't want to know [sm=nono.gif]



Aurelian -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/19/2011 11:58:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: alfonso

Had this battle been against another opponent, maybe we could read another utter madness thread [:)]


This is madness!!!! Utter madness!!!! This game is broken!!!!

Someone had to say it.



DTurtle -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 12:15:22 AM)

Wow, (fake) history repeating itself. Ok, he is getting cut off 5 hexes further south in comparison to your last enemy [;)]

One thing: You are leaving your backdoor to Leningrad open - the hex across the Neva to the east of the city (you have an airfield in it).



TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 12:22:44 AM)

Now that you mention it, yessssss, fairly similar situation [X(] ............. [sm=00000622.gif]

I will try to garrison and build forts there, thank you [:)]



TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 12:24:24 AM)

So the first time it was a tragedy, now it should be a farce? [:D]



Klydon -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 4:36:33 AM)

For command issues, you should be able to put 3 full armies under each front. For Leningrad/Northern Front, I would put anything facing the Finns attached to Stavka to free up space. You are not going to fight with them (hopefully). This should allow you to get a third fairly big army under the front.

Using the MD HQs to command armies sort of sucks. They can only handle 1 full strength army and 1 crappy army (in size) or 2 medium sized armies. The other thing with that is if those armies are going to fight, etc then you will be obligated to give the MD a good commander to make it worthwhile.

I also know that while you are low on troops in the south, I would send some more into the Crimea and get them digging there. You need double lines at the entrances and also some more down by Sevastopol. Any place he can only attack from two hexes from, I would have guys digging.  Ideally, you want to either have him stop 11th Army from marching east and get bogged down in dealing with the entrance area of the Crimea. If he wants to continue, so much the better. Many AAR's have featured the Crimea being screened off and then the Russians coming out to play in the winter and it generally isn't a pretty sight because the Axis overestimate what the Rumanians can do on defense there (nothing in blizzard) or they underestimate the threat the Russians pose there.




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 1:39:59 PM)

Klydon, thanks for this info [:)] Yes, I will be doing what you say: 7th Army east of Lake Ladoga (along with other armies) attached to STAVKA and I don't think I will be using the Moscow HQ (too far).

As for Crimea, I don't think I can send more troops there. Now my top priority is Leningrad: I will possibly send even more troops and still... we'll see if I manage to stop him at the gates of the city and stop him from flooding the Volkhov and therefore isolate the city: the right hook panzers near the Valdai Hills were stopped this turn so I bought one turn but they should resume their course [8D]

And there are still the panzers in the south (priority number two now). I want to sort of contain them. I can't have everything [:)]



TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 4:42:48 PM)

Turn 10

21 august 1941


Well, no pictures of pic-a-nic baskets, bears running after the little girl etc. [:(]

Leningrad area.

The forces are pulling back to the Luga River line. Some units are left behind checkerboarding. The area will be covered by 3 Northern Front armies: 55 (has to be reorganized), 48 (Rokossovski) and 28.

I can see the enemy's AGN panzers fuel soft factors are in green, that's what convinced me to retreat.

IF I see that this is the main enemy thrust and the right hook (if that is his plan) is more or less contained, I will assign Vatutin and Tolbukhin to the 55 and 28 armies (the Western Front now only faces infantry).

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 4:53:12 PM)

Lake Ilmen area aka right hook. BUT maybe he plans to send his panzers elsewhere... towards the east perhaps... we never know. So the 30th Army -covering the right flank of this theoric advance towards Leningrad- has been reinforced and is defending in depth. Just in case [8D]

Cavalry has been generously spreaded along the whole right flank [sm=00000622.gif]

Oh, as you can see I have left the marshes. Only 2 units stay there, the poor things... BUT I am staying south of Lake Ilmen. I want him to lose another turn kicking me out of this place [:D]

EDIT: oops, the 54 Army, attached to STAVKA is here as well: white units between the 31st and 11st armies.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 5:06:42 PM)

In the Western Front he is advancing at snail's pace. Good! [8D] Three counter-attacks launched. All of them successful = 3 enemy divisions forced to retreat. That's a good thing if I want to earn Guards status, I suspect [&o]

What I don't know, and I will ask my opponent this later because I would like to know, is if the center was his objective but the deep defence he faced made him attack elsewhere. Maybe he never planned to attack in the center. But I want to know this [:)]

And yes, I still hold Vitebsk! [8D]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 5:21:24 PM)

In the Southwest, I think my opponent made a mistake. He CAN see the industry I have in x hex. Well, had he wanted (a little push of his panzers, he just has to know I am very weak down here) he could have trapped a lot of industry. Now it's too late. He just might trap vehicles industry in Kharkov (and only the 50% of it)...



TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 5:51:07 PM)

The losses. I haven't screenshoted them since the Frontier District Massacres, I think [8D]

Well, I am rather happy. And YES, the soviet player can be "happy" even if the losses are by the millions [:D]

The case is, he hasn't captured a lot of my hordes. Don't forget the first turns massacres provided him 700.000 captured soldiers (not a lot you can do to prevent that). So he hasn't captured a lot of my soldiers since the first turns. Overall I am rather optimist here [:)] And of course, he is NOT trapping enough hordes.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 5:55:38 PM)

I still don't have a 5 million men army though. And I want it! [8D]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 6:05:35 PM)

The northen part of the Southwest Front. My estimated e-enemy has done a weird advance towards Orel [&:] I guess he might want to turn west and trap (keep dreaming, mate) the 5th and 38th Armies. Or he is heading towards Moscow itself [:D] I have created another army: the 40th, attached to STAVKA. As I said above, I have sent the strategic reserves received these last two turns to both the Southwest (like 6 divisions) and Leningrad Fronts (like 5). Oh, and 2 for the Southern Front.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 7:17:25 PM)

And the other part of the SW Front.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 7:20:00 PM)

And finally the Southern Front.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 7:24:51 PM)

And Look what I'll be getting next turn [sm=00000622.gif] Lots of new hordes! [&o]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 7:26:40 PM)

And then... [&o]

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randallw -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 8:06:08 PM)

A lot of those are shells [:(]



alfonso -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 8:18:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: randallw

A lot of those are shells [:(]


But what wonderful shells they are!



TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 8:35:53 PM)

Shells or not, I am going to put them to good use [:)] I see the glass half full [sm=00000106.gif]



pompack -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 10:46:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Nice job T-D, but you seem to have a knack for selecting opponents who are not worried about flank security...



Have to agree here. He is aggressive and hits hard but each time he leaves himself vulnerable to TD's counterstrokes. While these counterstrokes do little damage, each time they effectively give TD a free turn to shore up his defense.

Fantastic AAR. TD makes it clear that I must get more aggressive in my Russian defense. When I command the Russians I keep seeing where I am vulnerable, but TD sees where the Germans are vulnerable. Good lesson. [&o]

OTOH, I would love to see a PDH/TD AAR [sm=00000436.gif] (and isn't that a lot of alphabet soup [:D])



TulliusDetritus -> RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis) (3/20/2011 10:51:23 PM)

Turn 11

28 august 1941


The German armored spearhead hordes have reached the Luga River. I have new orders. More troops will be sent (among them, like 8 divisions diverted from the Western and Bryansk Fronts). I want a carpet of defenders from the Luga River to Leningrad itself.

Zhukov (boss of the Western Front) has been appointed Boss-in-Chief of the Northern Front. Three armies of this front will try to stop the Germans: 28, 48 and 55. New bosses (Top Aces that is) have been appointed. Now Rokossovski, Vatutin and Tolbukhin are in chage of these three armies.

As for the Air Force... I plan to attack en masse the German armored units. And if that does not work, at least I'll be harassing them. Therefore I will be bringing many modern planes. I guess the boss of the Air Command will be a top ace as well.

The "right hook" (again, if that is its mission) hasn't advanced this turn either. Well, a few hexes here and there. So maybe only the AGN hordes (possibly reinforced: infantry) will try to assault Leningrad.

In other words, the Capital of the Revolution must be saved at all cost [8D]

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