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Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/16/2013 7:46:04 PM)

T80. 24.12.1942. Losses

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Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/16/2013 7:47:46 PM)

T80. 24.12.1942. Air losses

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Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/16/2013 7:50:33 PM)

T80. 24.12.1942. Production

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Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/16/2013 7:54:04 PM)

T80. 24.12.1942. Units



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Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/16/2013 7:56:07 PM)

T80. 24.12.1942. Air groups

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/17/2013 12:05:36 AM)

O, you didn't show my glorious Crimea offensive [:(]



Peltonx -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/17/2013 2:05:17 AM)

Its kinda of interesting that looking at this game vs MT/Pelton.

I am in a much better position then you and I ran during blizzard. We are in late-March and I am sure Mike will be over the rivers at almost the same lines.

The difference is in our game GHC still has 1941 morale levels and can hold the SHC in check. In other words GHC can build forts faster then SHC can advance even in winter.

If GHC has a poor 41 simply reteat during blizzard to rivers and hold the lines, which is much easy now that the ammo bug has been removed.

Morale is 85% of the game.



Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/17/2013 5:03:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kamil

O, you didn't show my glorious Crimea offensive [:(]


It's painfull to mention the second Crimea disaster and tragedy of advance to Kharkov. Please describe these great operations from your own side.



KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 9:53:59 PM)

Unfortunately Mike omitted presenting initial turns of winter fighting. It was surprisingly interesting period.

So moving few turns backwards to turn 74, mid November '42



T74 north (start)

My forces are extremely weak. I need to buy time and shorten the front.

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 9:55:22 PM)

T74 centre (start)


Tragic situation here. Unfavourable ground and poor troops.

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 9:58:19 PM)

T74 south (start)


Big surprise. I didn't expect there will be any survivors of Orel pocket.

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 10:04:16 PM)

T74 Crimea (start)


Trading space for time enabled me to create considerable strike-force. Refitted and carefully positioned panzers waited for snow.

To my great surprise and happiness Mike haven't noticed the danger.

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 10:25:19 PM)

T74 south (finish)


Thanks to quality C&C and good fortune I managed to break pocket despite attacking using inferior numbers.

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 10:28:56 PM)

T74 Crimea (finish)

Success in the south exceeded my expectations.

I achieved two goals - destruction of Soviet troops (11 inf div, 1 tank corps, 1 cav corps) and removal of danger to AGS right flank.





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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 10:46:06 PM)

75 south (finish)


I got overexcited with prospect of capturing Sevastopol and deployed plenty of my panzers there. 2,5 divisions were encircled (1,5 inf, 1 mtn) but overcommitment in Crimean peninsula will haunt me in future.


In the mean time I reassemble strike-force near Kharkov and west of Stalino. I plan to lure Mike into trap ...

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 11:03:37 PM)

T76 south (start)


Mike is pushing hard, losses are high so I will have to make my move soon.

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 11:17:53 PM)

T76 south (finish)


Withdrawal and reorganisation.


Fortunately blizzard starts next turn so Mike mighty inf coprs will have greatly limited impact.

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 11:38:24 PM)

T77 south (start)


The die is cast.


Mike moved into "Kharkov-Stalino gap" in force. His spearhead is strong but lacks support of infantry. On the other hand my panzer-blob is not fully assembled and quite weak (majority of armament points had to be spent on rebuilding units).

I easily might end up being encircled myself, but I will attack anyway, temptation is just too strong.

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/19/2013 11:52:55 PM)

T77 south (finish)


(I didn't use arrows to avoid covering strength of my troops)



Not all worked as I planned, but decisive factor was overcommitment to Sevastopol raid few turns ago. I think pocket will be broken and not being able to use all of my AGS panzers will be reasons of my failure.

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loki100 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/20/2013 12:07:59 AM)

that was an impressive sequence of blow and counterblow ...



KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/20/2013 12:23:27 AM)

T78 south (start)


Despite my prayers god of dices didn't smile to me [:(] and Mike's attack was successful.



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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/20/2013 12:33:07 AM)

T78 south (finish)


I decided to be cautious and taken safe approach by reducing size of pocket using herding technique. Unfortunately majority of Soviet units routed so at the end of operation only 4 inf div and 1 tank corp were encircled.

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KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/20/2013 12:41:51 AM)

Fast forward to T80 (last one presented by Mike)


Pocket re-established at T78 held.

During my next two moves I continued to fall-back west impatiently waiting for armament production increase.

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Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/20/2013 7:26:07 AM)

Thank you very much Kamil for posting screens of these two epic operations, they were really interesting. The reason of Crimea disaster was I just forgot to employ recons the turn before (they were in reserve) so I haven't seen your panzers there. Regarding Kharkov I was too careless and underestimated your mobility. I was really lucky that 4 tank corps could escape from the pocket.



randallw -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/20/2013 9:22:13 AM)

Why are so many of the Soviet divisions so weak? It's late 1942, they ought to be up to some decent level of experience, and a CV of 3 or 4...not this 1 or 2 stuff.



Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/20/2013 10:06:51 AM)

Other divisions already corps or corpses



KamilS -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/20/2013 7:54:09 PM)

quote:

randallw

Why are so many of the Soviet divisions so weak? It's late 1942, they ought to be up to some decent level of experience, and a CV of 3 or 4...not this 1 or 2 stuff.


I think theses are new divisions - Mike has numerous and strong elite but as well plenty of relatively weak and fresh units (replacing destroyed during spring and summer of '42).



Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/29/2013 7:08:57 AM)

T85. 28.01.1943. North. Heavy positional battles for two bridgeheads on river Dvina, pushing towards Borisov-Minsk. German defense very very tight. I feel we are not ready for decisive offense yet.

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Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/29/2013 7:12:28 AM)

T85. 28.01.1943. North (detailed screen)

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Mike29 -> RE: ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) (3/29/2013 7:15:51 AM)

T85. 28.01.1943. Minsk direction.

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